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Mity
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada50 Posts
March 31 2012 18:07 GMT
#461
Whoa! I can get lessons on how to fix matches?!
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 31 2012 18:11 GMT
#462
On April 01 2012 03:07 Mity wrote:
Whoa! I can get lessons on how to fix matches?!


Pretty sure you have to get on these guy's level first....
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darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
March 31 2012 18:14 GMT
#463
On April 01 2012 03:01 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:14 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:12 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:06 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:03 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, I mean with the upcoming OSL not getting a sponsor, the past few starleagues getting sponsors only halfway through the tournament. Teams have died because of this ._.
He and the other match-fixers are largely responsible for ruining BW.

OT: He does need to make some money so I do feel some sympathy for the devil, imagine how hard it'll be for him to land himself a job with a reputation and criminal record like that.


And you can attribute this to 100% being because of the match fixing?


Not 100%, but close to that figure.
Bringing down a dozen or so talented players such as Luxury and a couple of teams with him sure seems significant.


Imo they didnt get dragged down by Savior, they chose on their own will to fix games. They dragged themselves down (we might have gone too far offtopic btw ^^)

your opinion is uninformed. savior introduced the players and the ppl paying for matchfixing. savior has been the middleman. savior dragged them down, there was nothing they could have done once introduced.

on topic: dont approve.


He forced them? I don't remember, were they threatened in anyway if they had declined to participate?

On April 01 2012 02:12 Wockets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:06 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:03 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, I mean with the upcoming OSL not getting a sponsor, the past few starleagues getting sponsors only halfway through the tournament. Teams have died because of this ._.
He and the other match-fixers are largely responsible for ruining BW.

OT: He does need to make some money so I do feel some sympathy for the devil, imagine how hard it'll be for him to land himself a job with a reputation and criminal record like that.


And you can attribute this to 100% being because of the match fixing?


Not 100%, but close to that figure.
Bringing down a dozen or so talented players such as Luxury and a couple of teams with him sure seems significant.


Source for the "but close to that figure" please.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
March 31 2012 18:21 GMT
#464
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!
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Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
March 31 2012 18:22 GMT
#465
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!

No he shouldn't. Please think before posting statements as such. No organization is going to let him compete in their tournament due to bad publicity.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 31 2012 18:23 GMT
#466
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

It was a hot issue for much much longer than 2 weeks, and sponsors did walk sideways. Not to mention Sparkyz disbanding was entirely due to the match fixing scandal.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
March 31 2012 19:05 GMT
#467
On April 01 2012 03:22 Pulzlulz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!

No he shouldn't. Please think before posting statements as such. No organization is going to let him compete in their tournament due to bad publicity.


He could always play as an independent player. MLG, IEM, IPL, and others wouldn't bar him ..at least yet.
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 31 2012 19:15 GMT
#468
There is a reason why he is not playing SC2.
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TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1405 Posts
March 31 2012 19:16 GMT
#469
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!


He's already banned by GOM.
Magic_Mike
Profile Joined May 2010
United States542 Posts
March 31 2012 19:21 GMT
#470
He is probably one of the greatest players of all time. Despite what he's done, not letting him play would deprive the rest of the world from seeing the greatness of his strategies, though I highly doubt that anyone good enough for us to see him would be taking lessons from him because of the scandal.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
March 31 2012 19:55 GMT
#471
--- Nuked ---
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2634 Posts
March 31 2012 20:19 GMT
#472
On April 01 2012 04:16 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!


He's already banned by GOM.

Is this true? I haven't heard of that before. Could you give me a link? Just curious. Thanks. (I would actually like to see him try out SC2... not sure how I think of him though. He was my favorite Zerg player before... :/)
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 31 2012 20:45 GMT
#473
On April 01 2012 05:19 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 04:16 TheButtonmen wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!


He's already banned by GOM.

Is this true? I haven't heard of that before. Could you give me a link? Just curious. Thanks. (I would actually like to see him try out SC2... not sure how I think of him though. He was my favorite Zerg player before... :/)

Yes its true. When KeSPA banned the players who were found guilty of match fixing GOM announced they are also going to ban them from competing in their own leagues.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
March 31 2012 20:47 GMT
#474
On April 01 2012 02:03 Wockets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, I mean with the upcoming OSL not getting a sponsor, the past few starleagues getting sponsors only halfway through the tournament. Teams have died because of this ._.
He and the other match-fixers are largely responsible for ruining BW.

OT: He does need to make some money so I do feel some sympathy for the devil, imagine how hard it'll be for him to land himself a job with a reputation and criminal record like that.

Again, Korea has 3.1% Unemployment. Im sure there is no shortage of demand for hard working disciplined men. If savior managed to become a starcraft pro, he could make a good living in lots of fields in this korean economy.
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1220 Posts
March 31 2012 22:13 GMT
#475
I wonder if he'd be opposed to giving lessons in english...
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 31 2012 22:27 GMT
#476
On April 01 2012 04:16 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!


He's already banned by GOM.


What about the foreign scene?
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
March 31 2012 22:35 GMT
#477
On April 01 2012 07:27 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 04:16 TheButtonmen wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!


He's already banned by GOM.


What about the foreign scene?


That's retarded and a good way to piss off international Koreans.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Ace.Xile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 22:44:07
March 31 2012 22:43 GMT
#478
On April 01 2012 07:35 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 07:27 Incognoto wrote:
On April 01 2012 04:16 TheButtonmen wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!


He's already banned by GOM.


What about the foreign scene?


That's retarded and a good way to piss off international Koreans.



The whole idea of this scandal is beyond ridiculous. Yeah he helped people fix matches, there are literally 100 times more people out there who have done much more, and been widely accepted back into society. I'm talking about people like Michael Vick. Last time I checked I value humanity and decent treatment of animals greatly over that of match fixing. People just want to hate someone and something, the sc community is horrible about that.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 22:56:19
March 31 2012 22:53 GMT
#479
On April 01 2012 07:43 Ace.Xile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 07:35 Gamegene wrote:
On April 01 2012 07:27 Incognoto wrote:
On April 01 2012 04:16 TheButtonmen wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!


He's already banned by GOM.


What about the foreign scene?


That's retarded and a good way to piss off international Koreans.



The whole idea of this scandal is beyond ridiculous. Yeah he helped people fix matches, there are literally 100 times more people out there who have done much more, and been widely accepted back into society. I'm talking about people like Michael Vick. Last time I checked I value humanity and decent treatment of animals greatly over that of match fixing. People just want to hate someone and something, the sc community is horrible about that.

different culture, different ideals; ever think what it might be like outside your small bubble? what if i told you we eat dogs (which we do btw) and that i can't see why americans get so worked up about a stupid dog fight?
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RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 22:56:11
March 31 2012 22:55 GMT
#480
On April 01 2012 07:43 Ace.Xile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 07:35 Gamegene wrote:
On April 01 2012 07:27 Incognoto wrote:
On April 01 2012 04:16 TheButtonmen wrote:
On April 01 2012 03:21 FidoDido wrote:
instead of coaching players, he should just switch over to sc2 and start pwning!


He's already banned by GOM.


What about the foreign scene?


That's retarded and a good way to piss off international Koreans.



The whole idea of this scandal is beyond ridiculous. Yeah he helped people fix matches, there are literally 100 times more people out there who have done much more, and been widely accepted back into society. I'm talking about people like Michael Vick. Last time I checked I value humanity and decent treatment of animals greatly over that of match fixing. People just want to hate someone and something, the sc community is horrible about that.

Michael Vick didn't destroy the face of the NFL then came back to make money off of it. Michael Vick wasn't a top Quarterback in the NFL when he did it. Vick didn't drag other top pros into it.

Savior destroyed the face of Brood-War, yet he still wants to make money off of it. That's just a disgrace.
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