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tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
March 23 2012 17:19 GMT
#121
On March 24 2012 02:07 JohnnyPG wrote:
There is a shit load of angry BW fanboys on here D:

Now, coming from a relatively unbiased point of view, I think this is going to really bring the community together :D

I closely follow both BW and SC2 because both of them have their inherent flaws and their awesome traits.

BW Pros : Ridiculous APM requirements, old school heroes like Bisu and JD, difficult interface, so you know those boys are just clickin and clackin away on those keyboards >: D these two things just make it sooo fucking interesting to watch because you know that pure talent is behind those screens.

BW cons = Eyesore, not saying BW is just unwatchable, but by modern standards, ya -___- Lack of new faces, we all know Flash, JD, Bisu, and the likes are always going to be at the forefront, no room for growth, guys..I love BW because of the incredible talent that is in it, but lets be honest with ourselves as fans, this move is a desperation move, because money and time are running out for our beloved game.

SC2 pros = Gorgeous to watch, all commentary is in English (for the most part), large foreign community with talent and potential, game is still young, strategies and metagame are expanding all the time, the game is already becoming much less deathball dependent, I saw a game with Puma the other day where he was executing double pronged drops and micro'ing them well along with his marine tank push, I was thoroughly impressed, the apm on that is sick, it seems like the true talent and practice is finally showing through,

Sc2 cons = Lack of ridiculously amazing players, the players are getting better....they are, but we dont have any true "Holy shit he is unstoppable" players as of right now, makes it hard to really get behind someone in my opinion. Deathballs, wihle the game is improving and stepping away from these, there is still the dreaded and boring deathballs ...,Mostly in matchups with Protoss is what I observe.

So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this? Why must you be "BW fans" or "SC2 fans"? Why not just be "Starcraft fans"? I think this is cool, it might breathe some new life into the BW scene and its starting a more rapid integration in the Korean scene (I'm sure they are hesitant about the change).

SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes?

Starcraft for life <3


The implementation of both games into a single league will probably kill BW. Since if both games were played in proleague, you would need a lineup of 4 Brood War players at a minimum. You would also need 4 SC2 players at a minimum. Presently progaming teams need 5 players (regular season) or 6 players (post season) who are good at Brood War to compete in proleague. By decreasing the number of Brood War players needed, a lot of the B-Teamers and A-Team Brood War players who don't already get a lot of playing time will begin playing Starcraft II since that would maximize their chances of playing and continuing a good career for themselves. I'm not sure if you realize this, but it causes an huge problem for the continuing Brood War players:


THEY WON'T HAVE ANYONE TO PRACTICE WITH!!!

Over the last few years, Brood War teams have been cutting B-Teamers and practice partners because of
a) A lack of skill
b) Monetary Issues

Presently, pro gaming teams are already having a difficult time finding people who the S-Class and other highly skilled A-Team players can practice with to efficiently increase their skill level. By taking a handful of Brood War players out of each team in order to incorporate Starcraft II into Proleauge, the lack of practice partners problem in Brood War is going to be compounded. And as the older Brood War players retire (Likely when they enter the Air Force) there won't be new players to replace them, which will likely cause a quick death to Brood War and therefore it would become SC2 Proleague.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 23 2012 17:19 GMT
#122
On March 24 2012 02:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:
So wait milkis you are saying that star 2 will most certainly be in proleage next season and what remains to be seen if it will be separate or like this abomination that this Rumor suggests.

Or are you saying that star 2 will completely takeover?


The article implies former.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51543 Posts
March 23 2012 17:20 GMT
#123
On March 24 2012 02:18 bgx wrote:
On the bright side LR threads would be the funniest thing on TL ever.

Where would you even put the theread in the first place?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#124
That's almost to stupid to be true. I understand what they are trying to do, but there is no way that they could think that that implementation is a good idea.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 17:23:08
March 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#125
On March 24 2012 02:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 02:18 bgx wrote:
On the bright side LR threads would be the funniest thing on TL ever.

Where would you even put the theread in the first place?

LoL forums

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forgive me my black humour
Stork[gm]
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
March 23 2012 17:23 GMT
#126
On March 24 2012 02:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 02:18 bgx wrote:
On the bright side LR threads would be the funniest thing on TL ever.

Where would you even put the theread in the first place?


The STARCRAFT tournament thread (-_-")
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51543 Posts
March 23 2012 17:24 GMT
#127
On March 24 2012 02:22 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 02:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 24 2012 02:18 bgx wrote:
On the bright side LR threads would be the funniest thing on TL ever.

Where would you even put the theread in the first place?

LoL forums

+ Show Spoiler +
forgive me my black humour

It's my kind of humor!

LOOL
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 23 2012 17:26 GMT
#128
I'm honestly curious if Kespa's organizers have even passed a basic marketing class. like wtf
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Bjoernzor
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden159 Posts
March 23 2012 17:27 GMT
#129
As a huge Sc2 supporter this actually makes no sense and probably won't be good for either game. Keep to one league or make a seperate one for each game
"There is nothing cooler than being passionate about the things you love" - Day9
OnFiRe888
Profile Joined October 2010
United States629 Posts
March 23 2012 17:27 GMT
#130
Does anybody know when the next proleague "rumored" to start?
"Life isn't measured by the breaths you take, but by skill in Starcraft"
SCnai
Profile Joined February 2010
322 Posts
March 23 2012 17:27 GMT
#131
Fuck. Can't they alternate games of SC2 and LOL and leave BW in peace?
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SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
March 23 2012 17:28 GMT
#132
On March 24 2012 02:07 JohnnyPG wrote:
SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes?

Starcraft for life <3

If Starcraft 2 had a different name then it'd be a totally different game. It doesn't even deserve to be 1's successor, to be honest.
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
March 23 2012 17:29 GMT
#133
So they want to force the fans to watch Starcraft 2? Man, this sucks...
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
March 23 2012 17:29 GMT
#134
Putting two angry supporter of each game in one room = shitstorm.
Not a good idea
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1980 Posts
March 23 2012 17:30 GMT
#135
wtf.

Even disregarding the clusterfuck of merging two completely different games together, now teams have to support 2x the amount of players, or cut their b-team lineup?
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
March 23 2012 17:30 GMT
#136
On March 24 2012 02:27 SCnai wrote:
Fuck. Can't they alternate games of SC2 and LOL and leave BW in peace?


The goal is to not kill a game. We love BW but that doesn't mean we should kill SC2
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
March 23 2012 17:31 GMT
#137
I believe the community would be receptive to actual facts for discussion rather than news that may or may not be true. I appreciate that news about the future of BW is being posted here, but you know, you can have a single thread where such rumors be consolidated and discussed.
(´・ω・`)
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 17:33:14
March 23 2012 17:31 GMT
#138
On March 24 2012 02:29 jidolboy wrote:
Putting two angry supporter of each game in one room = shitstorm.
Not a good idea


To be honest I think most fans are quite open to SC2. Remember the people who actually watch is quite different from the "hardcore" people who post on forums and such.


On March 24 2012 02:31 sinistral wrote:
I believe the community would be receptive to actual facts for discussion rather than news that may or may not be true. I appreciate that news about the future of BW is being posted here, but you know, you can have a single thread where such rumors be consolidated and discussed.


People call it "rumors", yes. But read between the lines: "Why would this article be placed?"

Plus there's couple solid facts in there that's pretty aligned with what I know and what we all observed when Mike Morhaime went to watch a PL Game.
zazone
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania460 Posts
March 23 2012 17:34 GMT
#139
On March 24 2012 02:27 SCnai wrote:
Fuck. Can't they alternate games of SC2 and LOL and leave BW in peace?

indeed, those games get along very well as level of difficulty.
Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?-Adolf Hitler
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8179 Posts
March 23 2012 17:34 GMT
#140
this sounds like kespa doesnt want fans of either game to watch wtf
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