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ALLEYCAT BLUES44214 Posts
On March 24 2012 01:50 Kiett wrote:
Hey guys. I think we should ask them to put some other games in too. Something like...
Set 1: BW
Set 2: SC2
Set 3: LoL
Set 4: DotA 2
Set 5: Fifa Online
Set 6: WoW Arena
Ace Match: Tic Tac Toe
IT WOULD BE THE COOLEST GAME LEAGUE EVER!
I'd watch Set 1(maybe even 2 if I'm bored),4 and Ace match.
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On March 24 2012 01:50 Kiett wrote:
Hey guys. I think we should ask them to put some other games in too. Something like...
Set 1: BW
Set 2: SC2
Set 3: LoL
Set 4: DotA 2
Set 5: Fifa Online
Set 6: WoW Arena
Ace Match: Tic Tac Toe
IT WOULD BE THE COOLEST GAME LEAGUE EVER!
I would prefer for the Ace Match to be an Iron Chef competition between the coaches, with a round of Charades for the Super Ace.
Relevant comic (though not with Iron Chef): Link
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I don't think the OSL will mix Sc2 like that. I think that just lean that there will be a OSL BW ( with BW teams )and an OSL Sc2 ( with sc2 teams ^^ )
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On March 24 2012 01:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 01:11 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 24 2012 01:07 gds wrote:
Why do we have to have shit rumors thread?
Seriously, if you have even half a brain you can see this shit is impossible and plain stupid. No need to pollute the BW forums with rumors and create retarded polemics based on nothing.
yea a bo7 with sc1 mixed with sc2, are you all freaking dumb?
supernovamaniac go spread your shit somewhere else you fuck. I'm just taking milkis's place without dodging. Want more firestorm? How about the rumor that this upcoming OSL is highly likely the last BW OSL? how many korean netizens have called dogshit on this?
This is silly too. OGN is never gonna say "THIS IS THE LAST ONE WE'RE DOING" because then if it's a huge success and get a sponsor for another season, they're gonna do that other season and look dishonest. Whether or not there will be another OSL will be based on the success of this one. You can predict that it will go badly if you want, but I like to think it will be super awesome just like it always is 
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There is a shit load of angry BW fanboys on here D:
Now, coming from a relatively unbiased point of view, I think this is going to really bring the community together :D
I closely follow both BW and SC2 because both of them have their inherent flaws and their awesome traits.
BW Pros : Ridiculous APM requirements, old school heroes like Bisu and JD, difficult interface, so you know those boys are just clickin and clackin away on those keyboards >: D these two things just make it sooo fucking interesting to watch because you know that pure talent is behind those screens.
BW cons = Eyesore, not saying BW is just unwatchable, but by modern standards, ya -___- Lack of new faces, we all know Flash, JD, Bisu, and the likes are always going to be at the forefront, no room for growth, guys..I love BW because of the incredible talent that is in it, but lets be honest with ourselves as fans, this move is a desperation move, because money and time are running out for our beloved game.
SC2 pros = Gorgeous to watch, all commentary is in English (for the most part), large foreign community with talent and potential, game is still young, strategies and metagame are expanding all the time, the game is already becoming much less deathball dependent, I saw a game with Puma the other day where he was executing double pronged drops and micro'ing them well along with his marine tank push, I was thoroughly impressed, the apm on that is sick, it seems like the true talent and practice is finally showing through,
Sc2 cons = Lack of ridiculously amazing players, the players are getting better....they are, but we dont have any true "Holy shit he is unstoppable" players as of right now, makes it hard to really get behind someone in my opinion. Deathballs, wihle the game is improving and stepping away from these, there is still the dreaded and boring deathballs ...,Mostly in matchups with Protoss is what I observe.
So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this? Why must you be "BW fans" or "SC2 fans"? Why not just be "Starcraft fans"? I think this is cool, it might breathe some new life into the BW scene and its starting a more rapid integration in the Korean scene (I'm sure they are hesitant about the change).
SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes?
Starcraft for life <3
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On March 24 2012 00:46 supernovamaniac wrote:EDIT: I like one game over the other. That doesn't mean that I should hate on the other one, nor the people who like the other game. Please be considerate, and keep the discussions as civil as possible.Not going to translate the whole article, just the summary. Though, I knew this from long time ago and seems like this article pretty much confirms what someone said before on the fomos forums (Surprising that it came out to be somewhat true). Seems like Proleague 11-12 Season 2 is going to be STARCRAFT Proleague if things work out fast enough. What this means is that we won't have BroodWar Proleague or SC2 Proleague. The idea is that odd numbered sets will be BW, and even numbered sets will be SC2. Seems like it will be Bo7 format with ace match, and ace match will rotate between BW and SC2 (not sure how it will work). Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=58368Keep in mind that these are still speculations. However, I felt like I needed to post this since this is not the first time I've seen this news.
I bet the reporter leaked this just to get the fans outraged so they dont implement something as retarded as this
Hahahaha. I think they're just afraid of losing all of the BW fanbase and just giving them a flavor of how SC2 is. What a weakassed approach
Interesting note though:
>> 블리자드는 그래텍으로부터 협회, 온게임넷과 스타2 중계권 협상 권한을 회수해 계약을 마무리한 것으로 전해졌다.
Blizzard took away Gretech's negotiation rights to negotiate with OGN and KeSPA and finalized a contract.
I figured it'd end up like this given how much of a bitch Gretech has been in negotiations. Given Blizzard is leaning with OGN/KeSPA much over Gretech, it's happening soon I guess.
EDIT: one more thing of note.
>> e스포츠 한 관계자는 "팀들은 이미 스타2에 대해 지난 시즌부터 조금씩 대비하기 시작했다"며 "차기 시즌 스타2가 도입되는 것이 거의 확실시 되고 있어 이번 비시즌은 각 팀마다 스타2 대비에 만전을 기할 것으로 보인다"고 전했다.
Basically it's pretty much confirmed there will be SC2 in Proleague next season.
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That is stupid and terrible....owh well....I quit if this is true...
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On March 24 2012 02:07 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 00:46 supernovamaniac wrote:EDIT: I like one game over the other. That doesn't mean that I should hate on the other one, nor the people who like the other game. Please be considerate, and keep the discussions as civil as possible.Not going to translate the whole article, just the summary. Though, I knew this from long time ago and seems like this article pretty much confirms what someone said before on the fomos forums (Surprising that it came out to be somewhat true). Seems like Proleague 11-12 Season 2 is going to be STARCRAFT Proleague if things work out fast enough. What this means is that we won't have BroodWar Proleague or SC2 Proleague. The idea is that odd numbered sets will be BW, and even numbered sets will be SC2. Seems like it will be Bo7 format with ace match, and ace match will rotate between BW and SC2 (not sure how it will work). Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=58368Keep in mind that these are still speculations. However, I felt like I needed to post this since this is not the first time I've seen this news. I bet the reporter leaked this just to get the fans outraged so they dont implement something as retarded as this Hahahaha. I think they're just afraid of losing all of the BW fanbase and just giving them a flavor of how SC2 is. What a weakassed approach Interesting note though: >> 블리자드는 그래텍으로부터 협회, 온게임넷과 스타2 중계권 협상 권한을 회수해 계약을 마무리한 것으로 전해졌다. Blizzard took away Gretech's negotiation rights to negotiate with OGN and KeSPA. Given Blizzard is leaning with OGN/KeSPA much over Gretech, this means that it's pretty finalized. (This entire swap).
<3 milkis
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ALLEYCAT BLUES44214 Posts
On March 24 2012 02:07 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 00:46 supernovamaniac wrote:EDIT: I like one game over the other. That doesn't mean that I should hate on the other one, nor the people who like the other game. Please be considerate, and keep the discussions as civil as possible.Not going to translate the whole article, just the summary. Though, I knew this from long time ago and seems like this article pretty much confirms what someone said before on the fomos forums (Surprising that it came out to be somewhat true). Seems like Proleague 11-12 Season 2 is going to be STARCRAFT Proleague if things work out fast enough. What this means is that we won't have BroodWar Proleague or SC2 Proleague. The idea is that odd numbered sets will be BW, and even numbered sets will be SC2. Seems like it will be Bo7 format with ace match, and ace match will rotate between BW and SC2 (not sure how it will work). Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=58368Keep in mind that these are still speculations. However, I felt like I needed to post this since this is not the first time I've seen this news. I bet the reporter leaked this just to get the fans outraged so they dont implement something as retarded as this Hahahaha. Interesting note though: >> 블리자드는 그래텍으로부터 협회, 온게임넷과 스타2 중계권 협상 권한을 회수해 계약을 마무리한 것으로 전해졌다. Blizzard took away Gretech's negotiation rights to negotiate with OGN and KeSPA. Given Blizzard is leaning with OGN/KeSPA much over Gretech, this means that it's pretty finalized.
Welcome back.....I guess
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So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this?
I don't think most of us even speak from a BW vs SC2 perspective on this one. Most BW fans are ok with KeSPA running an SC2 league as long as there's still a BW one. It's the idea of making it one set bw next one sc2 that doesn't make sense. Do you wanna watch people play Soccer for 45 minutes, and then in the second half play Rugby? Yeah, that'd be pretty dumb even if you like both sports.
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On March 24 2012 02:12 Chef wrote:I don't think most of us even speak from a BW vs SC2 perspective on this one. Most BW fans are ok with KeSPA running an SC2 league as long as there's still a BW one. It's the idea of making it one set bw next one sc2 that doesn't make sense. Do you wanna watch people play Soccer for 45 minutes, and then in the second half play Rugby? Yeah, that'd be pretty dumb even if you like both sports.
I concur with this.
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Hmmm this seems weird but it would always be better than the complete end of bw. There is a small chance the huge sc2 fanbase would come to appreciate bw.
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wowow that is soo weird that they will do this....ugh. could have been done better imo. this just seems like a ploy to get korean bw viewers to watch sc2.
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On March 24 2012 02:07 JohnnyPG wrote:+ Show Spoiler +There is a shit load of angry BW fanboys on here D:
Now, coming from a relatively unbiased point of view, I think this is going to really bring the community together :D
I closely follow both BW and SC2 because both of them have their inherent flaws and their awesome traits.
BW Pros : Ridiculous APM requirements, old school heroes like Bisu and JD, difficult interface, so you know those boys are just clickin and clackin away on those keyboards >: D these two things just make it sooo fucking interesting to watch because you know that pure talent is behind those screens.
BW cons = Eyesore, not saying BW is just unwatchable, but by modern standards, ya -___- Lack of new faces, we all know Flash, JD, Bisu, and the likes are always going to be at the forefront, no room for growth, guys..I love BW because of the incredible talent that is in it, but lets be honest with ourselves as fans, this move is a desperation move, because money and time are running out for our beloved game.
SC2 pros = Gorgeous to watch, all commentary is in English (for the most part), large foreign community with talent and potential, game is still young, strategies and metagame are expanding all the time, the game is already becoming much less deathball dependent, I saw a game with Puma the other day where he was executing double pronged drops and micro'ing them well along with his marine tank push, I was thoroughly impressed, the apm on that is sick, it seems like the true talent and practice is finally showing through,
Sc2 cons = Lack of ridiculously amazing players, the players are getting better....they are, but we dont have any true "Holy shit he is unstoppable" players as of right now, makes it hard to really get behind someone in my opinion. Deathballs, wihle the game is improving and stepping away from these, there is still the dreaded and boring deathballs ...,Mostly in matchups with Protoss is what I observe.
So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this? Why must you be "BW fans" or "SC2 fans"? Why not just be "Starcraft fans"? I think this is cool, it might breathe some new life into the BW scene and its starting a more rapid integration in the Korean scene (I'm sure they are hesitant about the change).
SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes?
Starcraft for life <3
Why wouldn't we want this? Probably for the same reason basketball fans don't want random badminton matches inserted in between their NBA series. Probably for the same reason a football fan would be really pissed if his team lost because the final score was decided by which team could figure skate better. Probably for the same reason that not too long ago, SC2 fans all got really angry that LoL was delaying their semifinals match or something. I don't think SC2 fans would appreciate it if every other set in GSTL was decided by LoL.
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Soooooo weird. You can't mix games like that. I understand the original idea is some peace- and fruitful coexistence of games, but maybe putting them in the same cage is not the best way to do that. If the number of SC2 purists is anywhere close to the number of BW purists, this will worsen the viewing experience for fans of both games. (What am I to do during every other game? :-p)
I have an odd, morbid curiosity about how this will turn out, not entirely unlike watching a car accident unfold.
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On the bright side LR threads would be the funniest thing on TL ever.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES44214 Posts
So wait milkis you are saying that star 2 will most certainly be in proleage next season and what remains to be seen if it will be separate or like this abomination that this Rumor suggests.
Or are you saying that star 2 will completely takeover?
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