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On March 24 2012 01:22 LasTLiE wrote: Would much rather see each game with its own league rather than mix them like this. But I guess OGN didn't want to devote that much of its schedule to BW+SC2. Basically no one in Korea would watch SC2 only league so "selling" it with BW is good idea from marketing side.
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United Kingdom1666 Posts
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds this idea genuinely crap. Not simply based on the idea of SC2 in ProLeague, but that this format will just piss off both sets of fans, and dilute the overall experience in terms of gameplay, devotion, practice time, sponsor loyalties/target market, not to mention overall viewing experience of which game you want to be watching!
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This sounds like it would be pretty horrible, hopefully it stays a rumor and doesn't actually happen.
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It would have potential as a special event, but I can't imagine it as an actual proleague season. How are they going to do this, dividing BW teams into BW/SC2 specialists or bringing some SC2 players for some magic merger? Team partnerships? How is this all going to happen in one month?! Well of course they could push back PL to work the details out but I think that would only make people more pissed than they already are. I don't know, if they're really serious about doing this maybe some sort of dry run could be implemented? Or how about allowing BW PL to finish instead of shoehorning SC2 into S2? IMO any transition to SC2 would be better worked out in the offseason so players and management can do some planning instead of 'oh hey, in the next month or so PL will be transformed into this weird-ass BW/SC2 hybrid!'
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On March 24 2012 01:20 J1.au wrote: Awesome idea. SC2 would be killed once and for all when Korean viewers see how it compares side by side with BW. It would at least last until Blizzard stopped sponsoring the PL (the only reason why this would happen), and then it will be back to 100% BW. I don't see how you've come to this conclusion. We all agree that this sounds really dumb, yes? So it seems like Kespa is desperate to change things because what's happening right now isn't working. I mean, if this was just for Blizzard money they could just run a BW league and an SC2 league.
More likely both games die than anything.
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United Kingdom1666 Posts
On March 24 2012 01:22 Lyter wrote: Just a bunch of dumb rumours, not worth a thread Rumours within the BW scene (at least, the ones which make it to us foreigners) have an incredibly uncanny way of displaying, at the very least, a strong foundation of truth.
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I think Kespa is ok now with LoL, but Blizzard needs to reinvigorate SC2 in Korea (every time you see gametrics the game is being playing less and less in PC Bangs) so they are willing to throw big money and Kespa willing to get it. The situation has evolved to Kespa favor now, two years ago Blizzard had a new SC game, big marketing campaign and all the excitment that those generates, now Blizzard has a common RTS game (in Korea), with a decreasing market, and losing terrain vs other game genre. For me Kespa is forgetting something if they took the "mix" formula, what made BW an e-sport in Korea were the players (casual and pros) not the corporations, and pushing a game like SC2 is not going to generate any new profit and new market, at least in Korea, Koreans had two years to embrace the game and they didnt, what is so new about it that they are going to change their taste? only because it is on TV, doesnt mean it is good.
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On March 24 2012 01:20 J1.au wrote: Awesome idea. SC2 would be killed once and for all when Korean viewers see how it compares side by side with BW. It would at least last until Blizzard stopped sponsoring the PL (the only reason why this would happen), and then it will be back to 100% BW.
Except both will be terrible.
Think about it, players forced to practice both games at once? They will play horribly at sc2 AND bw.
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Korea (South)11567 Posts
I am so not excited for this!
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On March 24 2012 01:28 CaucasianAsian wrote: I am so excited for this!
ban please traitor
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A little early for April fools? I guess they are trying to ease BW fans into SC2, but still, it seems weird.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49479 Posts
but seriously guys, do your really think players would actually practice BOTH games at a high level seriously?
I'm 99% convinced this is just a joke and that KeSPA should be ashamed(harsh but true) to even consider it.
On March 24 2012 01:28 StorrZerg wrote:ban please traitor \o/
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On March 24 2012 01:20 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 01:19 supernovamaniac wrote: Now as a fan, 2 cents
Possibly one of the worst ideas possible. I mean, it's good that Blizzard is getting free advertisement of SC2 in the scene, and with OGN also thinking about moving onto SC2 (I'll use this term as in starting SC2, which means SC2 while NOT ditching BW) it will be good. But for the players and fans, it's just a death sentence. For players because if they switch to SC2 completely they only have to focus on that game. But now, they're forced to practice both games constantly until the league gets divided or kills one of the two games being used. For fans for obvious reasons.
I have to say though that I saw this coming, given the hardware change and everything. If they were still thinking about running a BW league and not incorporating a SC2 into BW league (like the one that rumor has in the OP), then they wouldn't have used the new widescreen LCD monitors with upgraded PCs. I thought it would be making few players solely for SC2 while core of the team stays for BW and OSL? Making players train both games would be ridiculous... If the rumor that was posted on fomos forums before Season 1 started is completely true, you wouldn't want to hear what they are thinking about with how they're going to do this.
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Well that would be pretty plain fucking terrible.
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snm as much as I don't want to hear it...could you please post rumors about the upcoming OSL and how it may be the last season? Even though rumors are rumors it may provide us with some insight with what's going on in the scene. Thank you.
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United Kingdom1666 Posts
On March 24 2012 01:30 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 01:20 bgx wrote:On March 24 2012 01:19 supernovamaniac wrote: Now as a fan, 2 cents
Possibly one of the worst ideas possible. I mean, it's good that Blizzard is getting free advertisement of SC2 in the scene, and with OGN also thinking about moving onto SC2 (I'll use this term as in starting SC2, which means SC2 while NOT ditching BW) it will be good. But for the players and fans, it's just a death sentence. For players because if they switch to SC2 completely they only have to focus on that game. But now, they're forced to practice both games constantly until the league gets divided or kills one of the two games being used. For fans for obvious reasons.
I have to say though that I saw this coming, given the hardware change and everything. If they were still thinking about running a BW league and not incorporating a SC2 into BW league (like the one that rumor has in the OP), then they wouldn't have used the new widescreen LCD monitors with upgraded PCs. I thought it would be making few players solely for SC2 while core of the team stays for BW and OSL? Making players train both games would be ridiculous... If the rumor that was posted on fomos forums before Season 1 started is completely true, you wouldn't want to hear what they are thinking about with how they're going to do this. Care to share the insight? Damn I occasionally really wish I could read Korean.
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On March 24 2012 01:34 ImbaTosS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 01:30 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 24 2012 01:20 bgx wrote:On March 24 2012 01:19 supernovamaniac wrote: Now as a fan, 2 cents
Possibly one of the worst ideas possible. I mean, it's good that Blizzard is getting free advertisement of SC2 in the scene, and with OGN also thinking about moving onto SC2 (I'll use this term as in starting SC2, which means SC2 while NOT ditching BW) it will be good. But for the players and fans, it's just a death sentence. For players because if they switch to SC2 completely they only have to focus on that game. But now, they're forced to practice both games constantly until the league gets divided or kills one of the two games being used. For fans for obvious reasons.
I have to say though that I saw this coming, given the hardware change and everything. If they were still thinking about running a BW league and not incorporating a SC2 into BW league (like the one that rumor has in the OP), then they wouldn't have used the new widescreen LCD monitors with upgraded PCs. I thought it would be making few players solely for SC2 while core of the team stays for BW and OSL? Making players train both games would be ridiculous... If the rumor that was posted on fomos forums before Season 1 started is completely true, you wouldn't want to hear what they are thinking about with how they're going to do this. Care to share the insight? Damn I occasionally really wish I could read Korean. That one I didn't post because I knew it was some truth + bullshit at best. It's better if I don't post it here. Check your PM.
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no
please
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I don't think anything even similar will be incorporated, but to give my 2 cents on the concept: I'd like to be optimistic and say that it will force a bunch of SC2 people to realize that BW is worth watching despite the fact that foreigners have no chance in it (let's be real, there are so many foreign fans who want foreign players to do well in SC2 even though it's panning out to be a pipedream like in BW -_-), and Koreans will confirm their view of BW superiority. Realistically, if this happens, I know I would just watch the BW games and not watch it live because watching SC2 = no comparison, and I would hate to have to sit through SC2 games in between BW ones. 'Diluted' is a good word someone used earlier.
I would much rather they drop the pretense and go full SC2 and let progaming crumble in Korea because so few people like SC2. I don't give 2 shits about progaming outside of BW. This way I can be an elitist and tell SC2 fans tales about the good days when good games were getting good ratings and were making good money for good sponsors, and how their game and its backers destroyed it all.
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