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Milkis
5003 Posts
On March 24 2012 02:40 BLinD-RawR wrote: Oh and just imagine the amount of time needed to set things up between sets. Why? They'd need to swap monitors at best. Trust me, OGN is *very* good at this. | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
On March 24 2012 02:59 Milkis wrote: Why? They'd need to swap monitors at best. Trust me, OGN is *very* good at this. Set over, camera off? TAKE EVERYTHING OUT OF THE BOOTH. Seriously, they're professionals. Also, Inb4people realize that they have widescreen LCD monitors. | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
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jaQi
1121 Posts
On March 24 2012 03:00 ptrpb wrote: I'd watch it without a problem as long as BW/SC2 players aren't practicing both games at once because it'll mean worse games across the board, what I'd like to see would be like Effort vs Flash followed by MVP vs Leenock or whatever (assuming they were on the BW teams, etc.). Then we get good BW and good SC2. Than you don't need to change something and just let there be two leagues. There will be some significant changes, unfortunately, otherwise they wouldn't have split the PL season into two parts anyway. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On March 24 2012 02:07 JohnnyPG wrote: There is a shit load of angry BW fanboys on here D: Now, coming from a relatively unbiased point of view, I think this is going to really bring the community together :D I closely follow both BW and SC2 because both of them have their inherent flaws and their awesome traits. + Show Spoiler + BW Pros : Ridiculous APM requirements, old school heroes like Bisu and JD, difficult interface, so you know those boys are just clickin and clackin away on those keyboards >: D these two things just make it sooo fucking interesting to watch because you know that pure talent is behind those screens. BW cons = Eyesore, not saying BW is just unwatchable, but by modern standards, ya -___- Lack of new faces, we all know Flash, JD, Bisu, and the likes are always going to be at the forefront, no room for growth, guys..I love BW because of the incredible talent that is in it, but lets be honest with ourselves as fans, this move is a desperation move, because money and time are running out for our beloved game. SC2 pros = Gorgeous to watch, all commentary is in English (for the most part), large foreign community with talent and potential, game is still young, strategies and metagame are expanding all the time, the game is already becoming much less deathball dependent, I saw a game with Puma the other day where he was executing double pronged drops and micro'ing them well along with his marine tank push, I was thoroughly impressed, the apm on that is sick, it seems like the true talent and practice is finally showing through, Sc2 cons = Lack of ridiculously amazing players, the players are getting better....they are, but we dont have any true "Holy shit he is unstoppable" players as of right now, makes it hard to really get behind someone in my opinion. Deathballs, wihle the game is improving and stepping away from these, there is still the dreaded and boring deathballs ...,Mostly in matchups with Protoss is what I observe. So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this? Why must you be "BW fans" or "SC2 fans"? Why not just be "Starcraft fans"? I think this is cool, it might breathe some new life into the BW scene and its starting a more rapid integration in the Korean scene (I'm sure they are hesitant about the change). SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes? Starcraft for life <3 Your post is absurdly ignorant. I'm not sure even where to start. We don't watch BW because it's mechanically more demanding, we watch BW because it's played better in every aspect: strategy, multitask, decision making, EVERYTHING. BW fans can't be SC2 fans because SC2 is cannibalizing everything that we worked so hard for over the past 10 years. Just because it has "starcraft" in it's name, you guys feel like you have the right to everything we created. You're even recycling our players like some kind of bastardized retirement home. Go start "esports" on your own, purely off the passion and dedication of fans and players. Then come back and we'll talk about sharing a league. All I see in sc2 is people trying to make money. All I see in BW is passion and love for the game. Here's what your precious foreign players have to say about their game IdrA cuz its a shit game Jinro Although, as someone who is currently playing SC2 professionally, I would have to say that yes, SC2 is inferior to SC1. Why are they playing sc2 then? To make a living off gaming because they weren't good enough at BW. Midas I'm going to confess that in the off-season, I tried out StarCraft 2 and League of Legends. I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists. Same with League of Legends. I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." If by "breathe new life into the BW scene" you mean screw us over, then sure. Because cutting our only league left in half is "breathing new life". Yup. Maybe SC2 should donate all of it's prize winnings to sponsor a new OSL. SC2 owes 100% of it's success to BW. If it was called space invaders 3, it would, at best, be a thread in the Sports and Games subforum. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On March 24 2012 02:58 jaQi wrote: I am not really sure if BW is really still this big in Korea. SC2 is booming while the whole BW scene stands still for years. But I really don't want to see this stupid system. Rather a complete SC2 proleague than this. SC2 is booming outside of Korea. It isn't doing that great in Korea at all. Get your facts straight. If you're going to host a SC2 PL its better to jump in with both feet or not at all. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Besides that can you guys do me a favor and just ignore everything the PG guy says? He hasn't said anything credible since he joined. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3115 Posts
As a fan of both games, I'd watch it, of course. BW fans can suffer through a few SC2 matches, I think, and ditto for SC2 fans. If you love your game, you'll watch, and I think that's what Kespa is counting on. Hopefully, though, they'll at least have different squads for each game. There's no way you can practice two games and still be as good as you can be. That's more of a team management thing than anything else, though... | ||
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Denvar
United States34 Posts
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nbaker
United States1341 Posts
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
On March 24 2012 03:02 jaQi wrote: Than you don't need to change something and just let there be two leagues. There will be some significant changes, unfortunately, otherwise they wouldn't have split the PL season into two parts anyway. I guess it may be more about the capital required to run two separate leagues? Take into consideration that two leagues means you need another accessible timeslot, more studio time which in turns ups broadcasting costs and things of that nature. I'm just saying that as long as players aren't cutting their practice between two games I wouldn't mind. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On March 24 2012 01:39 Jealous wrote: This way I can be an elitist and tell SC2 fans tales about the good days when good games were getting good ratings and were making good money for good sponsors, and how their game and its backers destroyed it all. That's really unnecessary... If anything SC2 is bringing a new level of progaming outside Korea. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On March 24 2012 03:06 moopie wrote: Can you image a match where a team wins all/most of the BW sets and loses the match? what kind of bullshit would that be. How can a BW fan get hyped about competition when it becomes such a farce. No kidding, if anything ever happens like this they should change the name to bullshit league. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On March 24 2012 01:50 Kiett wrote: Hey guys. I think we should ask them to put some other games in too. Something like... Set 1: BW Set 2: SC2 Set 3: LoL Set 4: DotA 2 Set 5: Fifa Online Set 6: WoW Arena Ace Match: Tic Tac Toe IT WOULD BE THE COOLEST GAME LEAGUE EVER! well the championship gaming series or CGS shared the same idea of this kind of format . It died prematurely because it could never sustain enough sponsorship and garner enough fans or viewers . So sadly nope having this kind of format will be a total drop of interest from fans of each game . | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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SlowBullets
United States839 Posts
On March 24 2012 03:07 howLiN wrote: That's really unnecessary... If anything SC2 is bringing a new level of progaming outside Korea. lol "level" "progaming" i really don't think so...if anything the levels are way significantly worse. | ||
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