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huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 21:04:37
April 16 2012 21:03 GMT
#1981
I like both games, but BW is just so difficult to get into and there is basically no foreign scene/foreigners to root for. ICCup is pretty empty, It takes me sometimes 30 min to get a game because i can't host, and then when you get in you see that even though the game name is D- noobs only the host is D+. I really wish that i had found BW a few years ago . So i will keep playing SC2.

Imo BW PvZ/P and ZvZ is way better, in SC2 for me TvT and TvZ are really good matchups to watch imo. PvZ in SC2 is just terrible to watch . I can understand BW fans being mad at SC2 fans(I remember me being the same with CS 1.6 vs CSS lol), but try to look at things from their perspective..
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
April 16 2012 21:03 GMT
#1982
100 pages and SC2 people still don't get it.

Fuck ESPORTS.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 16 2012 21:09 GMT
#1983
Wasn´t there some thread yesterday with even more rumors? Why did it get deleted?
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 16 2012 21:10 GMT
#1984
On April 17 2012 06:09 Aunvilgod wrote:
Wasn´t there some thread yesterday with even more rumors? Why did it get deleted?

It was closed.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
April 16 2012 21:11 GMT
#1985
SNM, could you please update the OP whenever something significant is posted? I don't really want to read through this flamefest to find any new info
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
April 16 2012 21:14 GMT
#1986
On April 17 2012 06:09 Aunvilgod wrote:
Wasn´t there some thread yesterday with even more rumors? Why did it get deleted?

Closed. Unfortunately all the latest info on this whole ordeal is now hidden in the 100 pages of "my game is better than your game" shit. I'll quote my post from earlier as I also think the OP should be updated since we're being restricted to this thread for the latest sources.

On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote:
Since the other thread was closed, could we maybe have the OP updated so people don't have to wade through 90 pages of "my game is better than your game" arguments to find the interviews and translations of the most recent articles?

For instance, the Team 8 coach's interview here, (Summarized by rotinegg here)
The Fomos and DES/MBCplus mirror, (Summarized by white_horse here and here)
and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here.

Taengoo ♥
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 21:41:24
April 16 2012 21:39 GMT
#1987
On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote:
and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here.

Short summary:

-SK Planet Proleague to begin this May, will be able to see BW players try out their SC2 hands.
-SC2 implementation was possible due to blizzard's persuasion and Gretech conceding its exclusive contract.
-No official announcements, but progamers practicing sc2 atm. One affiliated staff said: "Next year, PL is projected to switch over to SC2 completely."
-How the mixed league will be run is still under discussion, but the most plausible theory is switching between each set, with the ace match being BW in all cases.
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]
-All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year.
-SC2 is evaluated as being less fun to spectate as an e-sport than SC1, so Kespa and the proteams must provide a solution to this problem to ensure the success of the next season of PL. [I know this will be a controversial statement, so I will include the source in its original form, and other translators can confirm my translation. + Show Spoiler +
특히 스타2가 스타1보다 e스포츠로서의 재미가 덜하다는 평가를 받고 있어 협회와 게임단은 시즌2에서 흥행공식을 도출하는 과제를 풀어야 한다.
]

The rest of the article was just analysis without facts so I ignored it.
Translator
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 21:43:02
April 16 2012 21:41 GMT
#1988
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote:
and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here.

Short summary:

-SK Planet Proleague to begin this May, will be able to see BW players try out their SC2 hands.
-SC2 implementation was possible due to blizzard's persuasion and Gretech conceding its exclusive contract.
-No official announcements, but progamers practicing sc2 atm. One affiliated staff said: "Next year, PL is projected to switch over to SC2 completely."
-How the mixed league will be run is still under discussion, but the most plausible theory is switching between each set, with the ace match being BW in all cases.
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]
-All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year.
-The general consensus is that SC2 is less fun to spectate as an e-sport than SC1, so Kespa and the proteams must provide a solution to ensure the success of the next season of PL. [I know this will be a controversial statement, so I will include the source in its original form, and other translators can confirm my translation. + Show Spoiler +
특히 스타2가 스타1보다 e스포츠로서의 재미가 덜하다는 평가를 받고 있어 협회와 게임단은 시즌2에서 흥행공식을 도출하는 과제를 풀어야 한다.
]

The rest of the article was just analysis without facts so I ignored it.


Some actual relevant ( and new ) information, thank you.
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 16 2012 21:42 GMT
#1989
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]

You're kidding me, right? How did they come up with this idea...
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
borlee
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Liechtenstein246 Posts
April 16 2012 21:42 GMT
#1990
so this will most likly be the last year where i can watch korean pros play bw?
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 21:43:12
April 16 2012 21:42 GMT
#1991
On April 17 2012 06:42 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]

You're kidding me, right? How did they come up with this idea...

the same way the shitheads that came up with the idea of running a league of both games in the first place did
Translator
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
April 16 2012 21:44 GMT
#1992
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote:
and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here.

-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]


I don't know how I missed this earlier. As curious as I am, this sounds like a terrible idea - not that the alternating sets thing won't already make for lower quality BW and SC2 sets.
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 21:46:43
April 16 2012 21:45 GMT
#1993
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote:
and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here.

+ Show Spoiler +
Short summary:

-SK Planet Proleague to begin this May, will be able to see BW players try out their SC2 hands.
-SC2 implementation was possible due to blizzard's persuasion and Gretech conceding its exclusive contract.
-No official announcements, but progamers practicing sc2 atm. One affiliated staff said: "Next year, PL is projected to switch over to SC2 completely."
-How the mixed league will be run is still under discussion, but the most plausible theory is switching between each set, with the ace match being BW in all cases.
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]
-All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year.

-SC2 is evaluated as being less fun to spectate as an e-sport than SC1, so Kespa and the proteams must provide a solution to this problem to ensure the success of the next season of PL. [I know this will be a controversial statement, so I will include the source in its original form, and other translators can confirm my translation. + Show Spoiler +
특히 스타2가 스타1보다 e스포츠로서의 재미가 덜하다는 평가를 받고 있어 협회와 게임단은 시즌2에서 흥행공식을 도출하는 과제를 풀어야 한다.
]

The rest of the article was just analysis without facts so I ignored it.


If it is a general thought that sc2 is worth for viewership, why to do the freaking switch?
Everything is a remix.
HigoSeco
Profile Joined December 2010
Chile232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 21:48:05
April 16 2012 21:45 GMT
#1994
Im afraid this will only make BW fans hate SC2 even more and in the end will hurt both scenes (well to be honest it means the death of BW anyway).
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
April 16 2012 21:46 GMT
#1995
On April 17 2012 06:45 elagrion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here.

Short summary:

-SK Planet Proleague to begin this May, will be able to see BW players try out their SC2 hands.
-SC2 implementation was possible due to blizzard's persuasion and Gretech conceding its exclusive contract.
-No official announcements, but progamers practicing sc2 atm. One affiliated staff said: "Next year, PL is projected to switch over to SC2 completely."
-How the mixed league will be run is still under discussion, but the most plausible theory is switching between each set, with the ace match being BW in all cases.
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]
-All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year.
-SC2 is evaluated as being less fun to spectate as an e-sport than SC1, so Kespa and the proteams must provide a solution to this problem to ensure the success of the next season of PL. [I know this will be a controversial statement, so I will include the source in its original form, and other translators can confirm my translation. + Show Spoiler +
특히 스타2가 스타1보다 e스포츠로서의 재미가 덜하다는 평가를 받고 있어 협회와 게임단은 시즌2에서 흥행공식을 도출하는 과제를 풀어야 한다.
]

The rest of the article was just analysis without facts so I ignored it.


If it is a general thought that sc2 is worth for viewership, why to do the freaking switch?

Because they can't find sponsors for BW, OSL is still without an sponsor?
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
April 16 2012 21:49 GMT
#1996
On April 17 2012 06:46 huehuehuehue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 06:45 elagrion wrote:
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here.

Short summary:

-SK Planet Proleague to begin this May, will be able to see BW players try out their SC2 hands.
-SC2 implementation was possible due to blizzard's persuasion and Gretech conceding its exclusive contract.
-No official announcements, but progamers practicing sc2 atm. One affiliated staff said: "Next year, PL is projected to switch over to SC2 completely."
-How the mixed league will be run is still under discussion, but the most plausible theory is switching between each set, with the ace match being BW in all cases.
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]
-All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year.
-SC2 is evaluated as being less fun to spectate as an e-sport than SC1, so Kespa and the proteams must provide a solution to this problem to ensure the success of the next season of PL. [I know this will be a controversial statement, so I will include the source in its original form, and other translators can confirm my translation. + Show Spoiler +
특히 스타2가 스타1보다 e스포츠로서의 재미가 덜하다는 평가를 받고 있어 협회와 게임단은 시즌2에서 흥행공식을 도출하는 과제를 풀어야 한다.
]

The rest of the article was just analysis without facts so I ignored it.


If it is a general thought that sc2 is worth for viewership, why to do the freaking switch?

Because they can't find sponsors for BW, OSL is still without an sponsor?

Ok, next question, how badly sponsors brains need to be damaged, if they willing to sponsor game that less attractive for viewers? U know, for sponsor viewers equals ROI.
Everything is a remix.
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
April 16 2012 21:50 GMT
#1997
On April 17 2012 06:49 elagrion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 06:46 huehuehuehue wrote:
On April 17 2012 06:45 elagrion wrote:
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here.

Short summary:

-SK Planet Proleague to begin this May, will be able to see BW players try out their SC2 hands.
-SC2 implementation was possible due to blizzard's persuasion and Gretech conceding its exclusive contract.
-No official announcements, but progamers practicing sc2 atm. One affiliated staff said: "Next year, PL is projected to switch over to SC2 completely."
-How the mixed league will be run is still under discussion, but the most plausible theory is switching between each set, with the ace match being BW in all cases.
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]
-All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year.
-SC2 is evaluated as being less fun to spectate as an e-sport than SC1, so Kespa and the proteams must provide a solution to this problem to ensure the success of the next season of PL. [I know this will be a controversial statement, so I will include the source in its original form, and other translators can confirm my translation. + Show Spoiler +
특히 스타2가 스타1보다 e스포츠로서의 재미가 덜하다는 평가를 받고 있어 협회와 게임단은 시즌2에서 흥행공식을 도출하는 과제를 풀어야 한다.
]

The rest of the article was just analysis without facts so I ignored it.


If it is a general thought that sc2 is worth for viewership, why to do the freaking switch?

Because they can't find sponsors for BW, OSL is still without an sponsor?

Ok, next question, how badly sponsors brains need to be damaged, if they willing to sponsor game that less attractive for viewers? U know, for sponsor viewers equals ROI.

It's way more attractive for sponsors because of the foreign viewers, so foreign sponsorship is a possibility and also Korean companys that also do business outside of Korea.
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 16 2012 21:51 GMT
#1998
On April 17 2012 06:42 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 06:42 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]

You're kidding me, right? How did they come up with this idea...

the same way the shitheads that came up with the idea of running a league of both games in the first place did

Another question: in your summary, you mentioned SC2 implementation being possible due to Blizzard's persuasion. Are there any details on Blizzard's role in this?
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
April 16 2012 21:53 GMT
#1999
On April 17 2012 06:51 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 06:42 rotinegg wrote:
On April 17 2012 06:42 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]

You're kidding me, right? How did they come up with this idea...

the same way the shitheads that came up with the idea of running a league of both games in the first place did

Another question: in your summary, you mentioned SC2 implementation being possible due to Blizzard's persuasion. Are there any details on Blizzard's role in this?

nope, sorry, literally just says "blizzard's persuasion"
Translator
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 16 2012 21:54 GMT
#2000
On April 17 2012 06:44 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote:
and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here.

-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.]


I don't know how I missed this earlier. As curious as I am, this sounds like a terrible idea - not that the alternating sets thing won't already make for lower quality BW and SC2 sets.


I know right, wtf is this? I am really disappointed at how Kespa is handling the thing. You know, they should just let the teams absorbs the pre-existing SC2 teams in Korea, keep the two games separated, allow Gom TV to broadcast Brood War so we can hear Tastosis once again doing their thing from the golden days. SC2 fans get to be happy because their games are being exposed to the masses in Korea, BW fans are happy because we got ourselves the Archon back! Everybody fucking wins!
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