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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
December 18 2011 09:44 GMT
#81
Maximum respect to this man!

I really like how he makes a lot of comparison ^^ Oov the wiseman!
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
December 18 2011 09:50 GMT
#82
Thank you very interesting to hear a veterans thoughts!
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 18 2011 09:55 GMT
#83
Awesomeeeeee<3
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
December 18 2011 10:07 GMT
#84
Wow.. that was some deep stuff. Thanks a lot for the translation
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
December 18 2011 10:08 GMT
#85
I enjoyed this interview so much, oov answered really well.
hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
December 18 2011 10:18 GMT
#86
The Monster laying down knowledge. His 2004 finals against Boxer was my first Starcraft matches and for that he has always been a favourite of mine .
"It's not acceptable"
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
December 18 2011 10:24 GMT
#87
So much wisdom in one interview.

"There are too many people trying to voice their opinions. There is an old saying that if too many people are given paddles to row the boat, the boat ends up in the mountains. I believe that tough times call for a leader for others to follow. That person needs to be able to overcome temptations of personal profit or inner-group favoritism, and set his sights on the betterment of e-sports as a whole"

I wholeheartedly agree with this. This applies for SC2 too, not that it goes through tough times or anything but so many people trying to tell what Esports is, what's hurting and killing Esports and stuff like that. Too bad, the "western" culture doesn't appreciate any kind of leader like this, except for maybe like Day9, but he isn't a player.

And I'd recommend this interview to the guys out there who say "nah western teams don't need a coach" and "nah they can manage themselves just fine, even without team houses".
ggaemo fan
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
December 18 2011 10:32 GMT
#88
On December 18 2011 19:24 valaki wrote:
So much wisdom in one interview.

"There are too many people trying to voice their opinions. There is an old saying that if too many people are given paddles to row the boat, the boat ends up in the mountains. I believe that tough times call for a leader for others to follow. That person needs to be able to overcome temptations of personal profit or inner-group favoritism, and set his sights on the betterment of e-sports as a whole"

I wholeheartedly agree with this. This applies for SC2 too, not that it goes through tough times or anything but so many people trying to tell what Esports is, what's hurting and killing Esports and stuff like that. Too bad, the "western" culture doesn't appreciate any kind of leader like this, except for maybe like Day9, but he isn't a player.

And I'd recommend this interview to the guys out there who say "nah western teams don't need a coach" and "nah they can manage themselves just fine, even without team houses".


No1 would disagree that a teamhouse is better.
But most western players don't want to live in a korean style teamhouse.

Anyway, great interview
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
December 18 2011 10:37 GMT
#89
Great meaty interview with lots of food for thought. I loved reading Oov's experience and insights about players and coaching in general as a former top-level player turned coach, and I think he was able to communicate these superbly.
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
December 18 2011 10:40 GMT
#90
This is absolutely amazing. thanks so much for the trans!
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 10:45:50
December 18 2011 10:45 GMT
#91
fantastic read. dont really read these but this one sucked me in. i never knew mma as oov's protege; damn he sure knows how to pick em! + Show Spoiler +
(mma recently.... :D)
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
December 18 2011 10:48 GMT
#92
I finally got a chance to read this properly. Thank you so much for translating this, you did a great job.
A very insightful interview, on both Oov, SKT/SKT players, as well as what it means to be a supporting coach. This was such a pleasure to read. I couldn't help but feel a little sad that he's not a part of SKT anymore though. Man, BW...it's so deep, seriously. I'm saving this interview.
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Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
December 18 2011 10:49 GMT
#93
Oh man, soooo good interview many many thanks for translating , love you <3
Rizare
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada592 Posts
December 18 2011 10:50 GMT
#94
Fantastic interview. It's very enlightening and eye-opening for me as well as awesome. This really opens another big perspective for me. There's so much wisdom as well and I kinda saw myself in some parts as well. You could apply as much in real life as well.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
December 18 2011 10:50 GMT
#95
Thx oov, for all you have done. I will shed my Zerg tears for you.

What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 10:54:22
December 18 2011 10:53 GMT
#96
The process of instructing players only becomes fun once they reach a certain skill level. Without a good foundation, they won't be able to execute a strategy, and even if they do by accident, it's building a castle on sand. I would say players that are at least a 3 out of 5 in terms of skill are the ones that are capable of discussing a strategy and bringing improvement to both sides.


And people get mad at me for categorically refusing to give them strategy advice unless they are at least mid GM. Oov doesn't even think 90% of his progamer team are worth giving strategy advice to, hahaha, lol what a bad ass.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#97
Incredibly articulate and thoughtful interview, thank you.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Adr4melecH
Profile Joined March 2010
Thailand667 Posts
December 18 2011 11:04 GMT
#98
Amazing interview,really nice read.

If I were to coach Jaedong or Bisu, I would first practice their respective race so I am on par with their skill level. When I coach a player, I don't ask for justifications or motives behind their every move. I believe a coach must be on the same page as the player so that he can understand the player's decisions by just watching. In order to do that, coaches need to be able to play like an S-class player. That would be the only way to get the players to respect you as a coach.


This is absolutely fucking amazing,wow.

I didnt get to know oov's greatness back in his prime because 10-11 was my first full season of watching BW but from this interview he has a such a great mindset/wisdom. True legend,take care oov.

alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 18 2011 11:07 GMT
#99
awesome, thanks for translating,!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
December 18 2011 11:11 GMT
#100
On December 18 2011 12:47 oneofthem wrote:
my god

"According to your recent protige MMA"

okay i didn't know this before but now i kind of like mma

aha yeah i was shocked too !

Great interview, really respect this guy
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