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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
November 17 2011 16:51 GMT
#321
so theres going to be 2 winners?
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 16:53:35
November 17 2011 16:52 GMT
#322
On November 18 2011 01:34 ZeromuS wrote:
No grand finals? I was starting to watch proleague last season and I can't believe a league will have no grand finals. Thats, thats just... thats just not right.

Also, no ace takes away so many interesting final game scenarios :/


well, it does; it's simply two one-half year seasons. Each half-year season has a full playoff of 4 teams, so it'll feel like a perfectly good final (from what I understand of OP)

just all us fans of proleague are used to its history of having yearly grand grand finals. The league still has playoffs and finals, just not necessarily in the form we all lub.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
HardMacro
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada361 Posts
November 17 2011 17:01 GMT
#323
AHAHAHAHAHAHA no ace match ahahahahahaha.

It's like the only Terran nerf that works on Flash;)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ saving this here because I use it, don't know how to make it, and don't know it's name
Weaklink123
Profile Joined April 2011
United States159 Posts
November 17 2011 17:07 GMT
#324
I just do not enjoy the intention's behind the system i would rather see a Bo10 most teams seem to be deep enough to put up that many players. Also the Ace matches are the best part of any team league.
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BlueyD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada437 Posts
November 17 2011 17:09 GMT
#325
That... sounds like a terrible decision.

BO5 means we won't really get to see anyone new.
No Ace means we won't really get to see the best players play each other often.
No Grand Finals is the worst idea I've heard... The whole point of a league is to crown a winner. One winner.
Zealot Chaaaaarge!
Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
November 17 2011 17:10 GMT
#326
basically they have abadoned what was the best in the league. And even a league without a winner? What t... is that? I dont really see how this could motivate players like bisu, flash, fantasy etc.. that they have won, but practically they are 2nd..
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
November 17 2011 17:14 GMT
#327
On November 18 2011 02:09 BlueyD wrote:
That... sounds like a terrible decision.

BO5 means we won't really get to see anyone new.
No Ace means we won't really get to see the best players play each other often.
No Grand Finals is the worst idea I've heard... The whole point of a league is to crown a winner. One winner.


Not sure if you recall, but last season we got to see lots of new blood. This season we are not in the same situation, we are in survival mode.

You want a league full of ace matches? Watch OSL. PL is about a TEAM winning, I actually am glad Flash can't carry their team to victory now, if KT wins it will be because KT wins, not because they have Flash
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 17:22:57
November 17 2011 17:18 GMT
#328
i love how people come up with these weird logic jumps

"a league without a winner" >>> they have a winner for the first half and then a winner for the second half. how hard is that so to comprehend? we should be thinking of the league as two distinct leagues from hereon.
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mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
November 17 2011 17:23 GMT
#329
No grand finals is kinda boring. But I like bo5 format more, should get to see a lot of new players play. After all it's supposed to be a team effort not an ace carrying the team.
@Munck
MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
November 17 2011 17:24 GMT
#330
No grandfinals,No hype.

screw you KeSPA.
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
RunningInSquares
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States215 Posts
November 17 2011 17:30 GMT
#331
My class starts at 16:00 on Tuesday and Wednesday. Not to mention that conflicts with SC2 matches. That makes me super sad panda. I will definitely try to get to every other match possible though, ACE fighting!!!!11
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
November 17 2011 17:31 GMT
#332
makes me kinda sad that there wont be a grand final

also bo7 is much more interesting imo
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SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
November 17 2011 17:32 GMT
#333
Hmm...don't know how I feel about the format changes but at least we still have proleague
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Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
November 17 2011 17:43 GMT
#334
lol, flash just got nerfed hard
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
November 17 2011 17:50 GMT
#335
On November 17 2011 22:37 Sawamura wrote:
Can't wait for these song to be played at the beginning of each proleague games . I feel my APM is rising again <3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And in the memory of MSL





I am going to seriously miss this one







I love how GEMA screws over any BW video i'm trying to watch on youtube, even can't watch some of the PL games from Mokti's links, fingers crossed they don't flag this seasons videos or somebody cuts out the intros, jeez

My god the format, THE FORMAT. Sure games were super long but man, less BW per game, and no Ace?! WTH. I don't like the implications, but no judgement shall be passed before i see it in action.

stupid week late stupid 26th stupid BW yayyyyy
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 17 2011 17:51 GMT
#336
FWIW, I think the no-grand-final thing is so easy to correct. Especially if the winner of the first season doesn't look good in the 2nd season. After all, it's not difficult to just add one more match to the end of the season if there's enough interest in it.

The Bo5 no KOF format is interesting. Before the season, I thought there would be 6 rounds with 2 rounds being WL. After all, gotta give fanboys and fangirls a chance to see Bisu and Flash in all their glory going for AKs. But instead they're nerfing star players. I really hope they can still maintain interest doing this. Lord knows the ratings is going be important for sponsorship and future seasons.
Meh
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
November 17 2011 17:51 GMT
#337
On November 18 2011 02:18 zeehar wrote:
i love how people come up with these weird logic jumps

"a league without a winner" >>> they have a winner for the first half and then a winner for the second half. how hard is that so to comprehend? we should be thinking of the league as two distinct leagues from hereon.


ONLY ONE TEAM MUST PREVAIL!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!1
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 17 2011 18:05 GMT
#338
On November 18 2011 02:18 zeehar wrote:
i love how people come up with these weird logic jumps

"a league without a winner" >>> they have a winner for the first half and then a winner for the second half. how hard is that so to comprehend? we should be thinking of the league as two distinct leagues from hereon.


It's the fact everyone wants a grand final, final. Instead of two finals in two seasons. They had to shrink it down because they only have one network now and we won't get to see as many players now. How will you let the other guys develop? There just isn't the same amount of opportunity anymore for them to excel especially once they get knocked out of the OSL.

They'll probably find themselves playing more and more SC2 more than anything else. It's a bitter pill to swallow. I understand it, but there is nothing like a grand final tying everything together rather than having two bite size seasons with three rounds each.

:/
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 17 2011 18:07 GMT
#339
On November 18 2011 01:42 XsebT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 01:35 Kanil wrote:
On November 18 2011 01:23 XsebT wrote:
People are blowing this way out of proportion man (Unless I completely missread OP).
"No ace match" is one of the things people are saying... They changed the ace match rule so that a team can't send a player more than once (even in ace match). That doesn't make it not an ace match all of a sudden. This mainly calls for strategical changes from the coaches.
"No grand finals" is the other thing people are saying. As I understand it, the season is just split in two with one winner for each half season (total or two winners/season). In my eyes this just means two finals rather than one.

How is it still an "ace match" in anything but name? I don't see why you feel it hasn't been changed? You aren't going to see the two team's best players duke it out, you'll just see the best players the teams have left. And given that one team has to be down 2-1 for there to be an ace match, one team is going to be on the verge of elimination, and probably sending their ace just to get to the ace match, no?

If you remove the only thing that makes the ace match different than any other match, what makes it still worthy of being the ace match?

Call it match point, call it final game, call it whatever you. I still call it ace match, because that's what we starcraft folk usually call the last and deciding game in a team match.

Uh... I don't mind the change, but it's called an ace match because you send your best player, aka your ace... Why would any team send their best player last? Ideally you'd want them to play in the first 3 games, maybe the 4th if you were 1-1 in the third. 5th only if you were 2-1 in the 4th.

So yeah, I think you don't know what ace means or something. It's like a fighter ace. You best pilot. Gets a lot of kills. You don't wanna lose before the 5th match having not played your best player.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 17 2011 18:10 GMT
#340
On November 18 2011 03:05 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 02:18 zeehar wrote:
i love how people come up with these weird logic jumps

"a league without a winner" >>> they have a winner for the first half and then a winner for the second half. how hard is that so to comprehend? we should be thinking of the league as two distinct leagues from hereon.


It's the fact everyone wants a grand final, final. Instead of two finals in two seasons. They had to shrink it down because they only have one network now and we won't get to see as many players now. How will you let the other guys develop? There just isn't the same amount of opportunity anymore for them to excel especially once they get knocked out of the OSL.

They'll probably find themselves playing more and more SC2 more than anything else. It's a bitter pill to swallow. I understand it, but there is nothing like a grand final tying everything together rather than having two bite size seasons with three rounds each.

:/


I agree with Zeehar, it's just two seperate leagues now, not two half leagues. Maybe they can add in a Grand Finals for winner of round 1 and winner of round 2.

I prefer BO5 and less days a week, imo. Less stress on players, more time to prep for individual leagues.
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