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Proleague 2011-2012 Format - Page 19

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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
November 17 2011 19:39 GMT
#361
On November 18 2011 04:33 v0rtex wrote:
Awesome ot see BW is still going strong!
Show nested quote +
Semi-PO and PO will be Best out of 3, while Finals will be only one match.


That's pretty intense with finals only being one match...

Clarification: its the same format as previous 2 seasons. We will have 1 Bo5 finals.
ppp
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
November 17 2011 19:41 GMT
#362
No ace and BO5? Wow, that like removes everything that was awesome about proleague =/
ggggbabybabybaby
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada304 Posts
November 17 2011 19:47 GMT
#363
No ace? How can CJ lose!?!
ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 19:52:52
November 17 2011 19:52 GMT
#364
No ace match? No more Bo7?
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
November 17 2011 19:53 GMT
#365
On November 18 2011 04:47 ggggbabybabybaby wrote:
No ace? How can CJ lose!?!

Sea Jaedong Killer Baby Jaehoon is a pretty sick lineup with all three races hehe
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LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
November 17 2011 20:43 GMT
#366
wtf no ace match?...the hell is this?
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
November 17 2011 20:47 GMT
#367
Well we all wanted Kespa to treat its players better. And now it's happened.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
November 17 2011 20:58 GMT
#368
NO ACE MATCH =(
Baptista
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Poland141 Posts
November 17 2011 20:58 GMT
#369
every bw post i read these days have an bolded text at the top preventing any sc2 fans spamming bw threads. Kind of... you know...
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
November 17 2011 21:02 GMT
#370
On November 18 2011 05:58 Baptista wrote:
every bw post i read these days have an bolded text at the top preventing any sc2 fans spamming bw threads. Kind of... you know...


Necessary?
BW forever || Thall
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
November 17 2011 21:04 GMT
#371
I really don't like this 'no grand-finals' thing. The acematch is kinda lame, but we will see how that turns out.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 17 2011 21:07 GMT
#372
On November 18 2011 06:02 Rostam wrote:
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On November 18 2011 05:58 Baptista wrote:
every bw post i read these days have an bolded text at the top preventing any sc2 fans spamming bw threads. Kind of... you know...


Necessary?


a sign of the times; more reason to be excited for this season~~
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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
November 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#373
I don't know about the two seasons, I guess they want to give two teams a chance to say they won a championship this season?

Also, the ace match isn't removed; teams will just have to be more careful in how they use their best player (i.e. Flash) and will have to develop more end-series strategies. I kinda of like the change, shake up the tournament a bit.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
November 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#374
shit...cj is gonna win now
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Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
November 17 2011 21:14 GMT
#375
No ace match!?!?! Why!?!
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 21:22:21
November 17 2011 21:16 GMT
#376
On November 18 2011 03:07 Chef wrote:
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On November 18 2011 01:42 XsebT wrote:
On November 18 2011 01:35 Kanil wrote:
On November 18 2011 01:23 XsebT wrote:
People are blowing this way out of proportion man (Unless I completely missread OP).
"No ace match" is one of the things people are saying... They changed the ace match rule so that a team can't send a player more than once (even in ace match). That doesn't make it not an ace match all of a sudden. This mainly calls for strategical changes from the coaches.
"No grand finals" is the other thing people are saying. As I understand it, the season is just split in two with one winner for each half season (total or two winners/season). In my eyes this just means two finals rather than one.

How is it still an "ace match" in anything but name? I don't see why you feel it hasn't been changed? You aren't going to see the two team's best players duke it out, you'll just see the best players the teams have left. And given that one team has to be down 2-1 for there to be an ace match, one team is going to be on the verge of elimination, and probably sending their ace just to get to the ace match, no?

If you remove the only thing that makes the ace match different than any other match, what makes it still worthy of being the ace match?

Call it match point, call it final game, call it whatever you. I still call it ace match, because that's what we starcraft folk usually call the last and deciding game in a team match.

Uh... I don't mind the change, but it's called an ace match because you send your best player, aka your ace... Why would any team send their best player last? Ideally you'd want them to play in the first 3 games, maybe the 4th if you were 1-1 in the third. 5th only if you were 2-1 in the 4th.

So yeah, I think you don't know what ace means or something. It's like a fighter ace. You best pilot. Gets a lot of kills. You don't wanna lose before the 5th match having not played your best player.

God damn this discussion...
You're right if you relate it directly to card games. What I'm saying is that "ace match" is now sc slang for that deciding match. This is not gonna change for me at least - I'm not gonna start shouting MATCH POINT.
You're still gonna pick the best player available anyway - a team might have just used an 'ace' too soon.

The main point is that while this is different, people are going completely overboard with how bad they think it is. PL now demands more skill depth in a team and more strategy in the coach's player selection. I find it dumb to call it bad simply because it's different.

I guess the reason people are upset is because they wanna see flash vs jaedong (and alike) ever time kt and t8 meets. Personally, I would much rather maintain the mystery and hype that revolves around such good players. - Have them meeting be a special treat once in a while.
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 17 2011 21:17 GMT
#377
This sounds REALLY weird.

Gonna await more info before panic.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 21:21:18
November 17 2011 21:20 GMT
#378
On November 18 2011 06:17 Thrill wrote:
This sounds REALLY weird.

Gonna await more info before panic.


What more information do you need? It's crystal clear to me at least.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
November 17 2011 21:27 GMT
#379
On November 18 2011 06:10 ChoDing wrote:
shit...cj is gonna win now


yeah, CJ is definitely the strongest team in this format. It removes a lot of KT's strength since they can't play Flash twice.
I drop suckas like Plinko
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 17 2011 21:28 GMT
#380
No ace match or grand finals... ? >.>

New format looks really nice for team8, but still it's less games to enjoy. Still excited I get my fix soon though.
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