EPTSo will the Kespa team not have B-teamers?
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
So will the Kespa team not have B-teamers? | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:00 sGs.Kal_rA wrote: Shame about Hiya =[ Don't leave us! Your the most entertaining terran out there!! So will the Kespa team not have B-teamers? doesn't seem like it...  I hope they find a sponsor to accommodate them,losing talent is bad. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
We have to let ForGG gain some strength in the SC2 scene before another BW pro switches over. We can't have too many switching over at the same time, otherwise it'll be too much. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Lucifer'd better play SC2, I can definitely see a mediocre protoss like him be a new MC. Saint could be a good commentator, but now that MBC Game closed down.... Lomo is too cute to be a policeman... Pure, not sure what his plan is. Hiya, too bad the Kespa team already got two very good terran, you'll be missed, keep streaming Magikarp ! Ruby, I liked you TvZ, but I don't see any team that would pick you. Midas, please don't retire little bear ! Shine, as a Bisu/Stork fan, I only wish that you'll keep playing so that my favorite players can revenge. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:02 nayumi wrote: Legatus has a valid opinion and I don't think it's right to bash him over that ... sure he might have expressed it a little bit harshly but it's not that hard to understand ... except for Boxer and Nada, i don't even know or care how the ex-BW players are doing in SC2 nowadays, simply because I'm not their fans ... I appreciated July's plays in BW but that's about it, i'm not his fan as a person (nothing against him really, just not a fan) ... I never said his opinion was invalid ,I don't understand the extreme change in how one person can view another. one day its I like this guy,the next you're dead to me...thats what ticks me off. | ||
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:43 Legatus Lanius wrote: no you're just talking shit. im a bw elitist that follows bw because its top tier, simply becaues i was never a fan of the person themselves? get this through your head, I LIKE THEIR PLAY. I DONT CARE ABOUT THEM AS AN INDIVIDUAL. i like brood war and i dont like sc2, does that make me an elitist? if so, fine, ill wear that it boggles my mind that some people still cant understand what im saying Well, I'm sure almost everyone except for you attaches someone's great play to the actual individual. For myself, I enjoy BW because I am amazed with the great play, and I'm even more amazed that an actual person is playing this game at 300+ APM while microing/macroing/multitasking/strategizing, something that I as another human being cannot do even with years of training. I don't think anyone, except for you apparently, can watch years and years of some bots going at it in proleagues and starleagues. The rivalries, underdogs, prestige, and the domination of some players makes me stick to BW. | ||
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Nazza
Australia1654 Posts
Midas should definitely still play. The B-teamers should do what they want. I wouldn't mind if they switched and started owning up the scene. I think it's reasonable if they earned a bit of the spotlight for their years of hard work. But I'd like to see some more ppl like firefist and end up in a respectable career. If Lomo wants to become a traffic cop it's his decision. | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:05 BLinD-RawR wrote: I never said his opinion was invalid ,I don't understand the extreme change in how one person can view another. one day its I like this guy,the next you're dead to me...thats what ticks me off. how is that a change of view on the person? he doesnt care about the person outside of broodwar now so if they switch 2 SC2 he just doesnt watch them or whatsoever.... the whole time i read t his thread i ask myself if you guys just dont want 2 understand it. he doesnt hate hiya and no he doesnt want him dead he just doesnt give a shit about SC2 so if hiya switches he is "dead" he is not watching him anymore. and yes i wouldnt watch Jaedong play some LoL shit or even SC2. Iam fan of him because of what he does in SC1 not in some other game i dont like. | ||
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Ideas
United States8171 Posts
(P)Anytime - playing coach at kespa or woongjin (P)LuCifer - team kespa (Z)Saint - playing coach at kespa (T)HiyA - woongjin needs a new terran now that really is gone (Z)HyuN - STX, KHAN, or team kespa (T)RuBy - STX: Bogus is great but needs better back-up, and a player with a lot of experience would greatly benefit the team. (T)Midas - team kespa, STX, or woongjin could use an experienced player like midas. (Z)Shine - STX, KHAN, or team kespa | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:49 Ideas wrote: i think the best fits would be: (P)Anytime - playing coach at kespa or woongjin (P)LuCifer - team kespa (Z)Saint - playing coach at kespa (T)HiyA - woongjin needs a new terran now that really is gone (Z)HyuN - STX, KHAN, or team kespa (T)RuBy - STX: Bogus is great but needs better back-up, and a player with a lot of experience would greatly benefit the team. (T)Midas - team kespa, STX, or woongjin could use an experienced player like midas. (Z)Shine - STX, KHAN, or team kespa SKT were interested in Ruby but they didn't want to pay him his current salary rate so they ended up drafting 2 zergs (whom they don't really need) instead. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:43 Legatus Lanius wrote: no you're just talking shit. im a bw elitist that follows bw because its top tier, simply becaues i was never a fan of the person themselves? get this through your head, I LIKE THEIR PLAY. I DONT CARE ABOUT THEM AS AN INDIVIDUAL. i like brood war and i dont like sc2, does that make me an elitist? if so, fine, ill wear that it boggles my mind that some people still cant understand what im saying You need to get your head out of your ass. | ||
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JohnnyPG
United States39 Posts
But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:47 rasers wrote: how is that a change of view on the person? he doesnt care about the person outside of broodwar now so if they switch 2 SC2 he just doesnt watch them or whatsoever.... the whole time i read t his thread i ask myself if you guys just dont want 2 understand it. he doesnt hate hiya and no he doesnt want him dead he just doesnt give a shit about SC2 so if hiya switches he is "dead" he is not watching him anymore. and yes i wouldnt watch Jaedong play some LoL shit or even SC2. Iam fan of him because of what he does in SC1 not in some other game i dont like. you are only a fan of what jaedong does in BW,not of him. I'm not arguing this anymore,its a complete derail,if you want to continue take it to PMs. On November 07 2011 14:59 JohnnyPG wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok, since that is all over, I simply have to ask this question, and I am NOT trolling or attempting to start a flame war by doing this.... But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. you are going off on a huuuge tangent talking abut BW and SC2 in general,which has nothing to do with this thread and very little to do with HiyA's situation. | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: you are only a fan of what jaedong does in BW,not of him. I'm not arguing this anymore,its a complete derail,if you want to continue take it to PMs. i became a fan of him because of BW. and i might follow some stuff outside of the game if he switches. but i wont watch a game i fucking dont like just because he is playing. u would eat some tiger balls just because jaedong likes them or what? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
On November 07 2011 15:01 rasers wrote: i became a fan of him because of BW. and i might follow some stuff outside of the game if he switches. but i wont watch a game i fucking dont like just because he is playing. u would eat some tiger balls just because jaedong likes them or what? are tiger balls good? | ||
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JohnnyPG
United States39 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:59 JohnnyPG wrote: Ok, since that is all over, I simply have to ask this question, and I am NOT trolling or attempting to start a flame war by doing this.... But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. Obviously you wouldn't understand why people would watch BW if you've never even understood the game. The only people that think BW has been stagnant are the people that don't understand what they're watching. There is so much more depth and variety in BW than there is in SC2, even today. Watching SC2 is an extreme bore except for a few choice players. | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
i dont like them. but since jaedong likes them i have 2 eat them so i can be his fan right?  | ||
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