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hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
November 10 2011 13:49 GMT
#201
On November 10 2011 22:11 Kanil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 13:42 aimaimaim wrote:
On November 10 2011 02:19 Kanil wrote:
On November 09 2011 23:13 Lucumo wrote:
On November 09 2011 23:09 Cambium wrote:
i recall reading it somewhere that hiya's present salary is too high?

Yeah, for someone not even getting a 50% win ratio...

ikr. Can you believe what KHAN is paying JangBi, with his awesome 17-28 record in PL this year?


He won the OSL. Jangbi is worth it.

Yes, that's precisely why he's a good example.


Damn straight, hard to believe people forgot carp league already.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
November 10 2011 14:05 GMT
#202
LOMO! Noo ! And midas.. Well i guess now im not gonna waste my liquibet on wmf anymore .. I will miss them all the same!
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
November 10 2011 15:20 GMT
#203
nooo Anytime ;_;
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
November 10 2011 15:55 GMT
#204
On November 10 2011 22:49 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 22:11 Kanil wrote:
On November 10 2011 13:42 aimaimaim wrote:
On November 10 2011 02:19 Kanil wrote:
On November 09 2011 23:13 Lucumo wrote:
On November 09 2011 23:09 Cambium wrote:
i recall reading it somewhere that hiya's present salary is too high?

Yeah, for someone not even getting a 50% win ratio...

ikr. Can you believe what KHAN is paying JangBi, with his awesome 17-28 record in PL this year?


He won the OSL. Jangbi is worth it.

Yes, that's precisely why he's a good example.


Damn straight, hard to believe people forgot carp league already.


I don't really get what you guys meant, but HiyA wasn't in any starleague, and was probably the second highest paid player in Oz. I wouldn't think any team would want a player with such a high required salary AND having borderline 50% win ratio.

Khan has decent terrans inside, and I suppose they are cheap in terms of salaries too. I don't really see the need to get HiyA even if I was a manager of Khan, unless he accepts a salary drop which is unlikely as far as ego goes.
(´・ω・`)
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 16:07:51
November 10 2011 15:59 GMT
#205
On November 10 2011 22:02 Ryo wrote:
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On November 10 2011 21:58 bokchoi wrote:
I hope AnyTime gets picked up or asked to coach.. either for KeSPA Team 8 or SKT :D... on that note.. who are the new SKT coaches or are those positions open atm?

I don't remember seeing an announcement about any new SKT coaches, although I could be wrong. But there's a good protoss coach without a job at the moment, broadcasting every day on Afreeca. Coach Park should hire him. You know, the guy who turned Jaehoon's career around.


Did you mean Pusan?

Good Bye Anytime , Lucifer and other progamers and also zerg[kal]. zerg[kal] has great potential and now, he is retired too.

and Ryo, thanks again for the updates.
Learn,live and love it.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
November 10 2011 16:36 GMT
#206
HiyA don't stop playing, at least He has such a cool playstyle.
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 10 2011 16:41 GMT
#207
On November 11 2011 00:59 trexbqs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 22:02 Ryo wrote:
On November 10 2011 21:58 bokchoi wrote:
I hope AnyTime gets picked up or asked to coach.. either for KeSPA Team 8 or SKT :D... on that note.. who are the new SKT coaches or are those positions open atm?

I don't remember seeing an announcement about any new SKT coaches, although I could be wrong. But there's a good protoss coach without a job at the moment, broadcasting every day on Afreeca. Coach Park should hire him. You know, the guy who turned Jaehoon's career around.


Did you mean Pusan?

Good Bye Anytime , Lucifer and other progamers and also zerg[kal]. zerg[kal] has great potential and now, he is retired too.

and Ryo, thanks again for the updates.

Honestly, I think Zerg[kal] just got tired of waiting. I read some of the messages on his cyworld and it seems he may have decided on military service in Oct, before the draft. Not sure. As a trainee he was moved around to different teams like CJ and KT, then finally drafted by SKT only to be released last year before MBC finally took him in. Very tough.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
November 10 2011 17:13 GMT
#208
On November 11 2011 00:55 sinistral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 22:49 hellbound wrote:
On November 10 2011 22:11 Kanil wrote:
On November 10 2011 13:42 aimaimaim wrote:
On November 10 2011 02:19 Kanil wrote:
On November 09 2011 23:13 Lucumo wrote:
On November 09 2011 23:09 Cambium wrote:
i recall reading it somewhere that hiya's present salary is too high?

Yeah, for someone not even getting a 50% win ratio...

ikr. Can you believe what KHAN is paying JangBi, with his awesome 17-28 record in PL this year?


He won the OSL. Jangbi is worth it.

Yes, that's precisely why he's a good example.


Damn straight, hard to believe people forgot carp league already.


I don't really get what you guys meant, but HiyA wasn't in any starleague, and was probably the second highest paid player in Oz. I wouldn't think any team would want a player with such a high required salary AND having borderline 50% win ratio.

Khan has decent terrans inside, and I suppose they are cheap in terms of salaries too. I don't really see the need to get HiyA even if I was a manager of Khan, unless he accepts a salary drop which is unlikely as far as ego goes.

HiyA was the second highest because Oz has like no other players. Here's the list from last year, some players (Leta, notably) got pay raises for 10-11.
As for a borderline 50% win player, well...

In 2008-2009 he was 33-27, 55%.
In 2009-2010 he was 37-26, 58%.
In 2010-2011 he was 27-29, 48%. However he started round 1 and 2 in a massive slump, going 2-12. If you look at his final 4 rounds, he was 25-17, or 59%.

(Stats was at 59% this year [the entire thing, unlike HiyA] and doubled his salary to around 30% more than what HiyA's salary would be.)

I'd say calling him a sub-50% player is a bit disingenuous. Sometimes players just slump, doesn't always reflect on their overall skill level (ie: JangBi.)

I don't think HiyA's salary is unreasonable.
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 17:27:29
November 10 2011 17:25 GMT
#209
Yeah Anytime and Pusan are great coaching material and they should be added in any team that wants to make something of their protoss players . I hope they remain involved in the e-sports scene even at the worst it means switching to SC 2 . If players like Huk and MC can make it big with protoss , they sure as hell can also do it if they have the passion to keep investing the necessary time in to it .
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
November 10 2011 19:34 GMT
#210
On November 11 2011 02:13 Kanil wrote:
HiyA was the second highest because Oz has like no other players. Here's the list from last year, some players (Leta, notably) got pay raises for 10-11.
As for a borderline 50% win player, well...

In 2008-2009 he was 33-27, 55%.
In 2009-2010 he was 37-26, 58%.
In 2010-2011 he was 27-29, 48%. However he started round 1 and 2 in a massive slump, going 2-12. If you look at his final 4 rounds, he was 25-17, or 59%.

(Stats was at 59% this year [the entire thing, unlike HiyA] and doubled his salary to around 30% more than what HiyA's salary would be.)

I'd say calling him a sub-50% player is a bit disingenuous. Sometimes players just slump, doesn't always reflect on their overall skill level (ie: JangBi.)

I don't think HiyA's salary is unreasonable.


Stats thoroughly deserve his pay raise because he really helped KT to the Proleague championship, and he's pretty much the number 2 KT progamer. Could the fact that Leta is currently the captain of CJ contribute to his pay raise, since I don't think he played well during the 10-11 PL season?

Things could be different if HiyA qualifies for OSL His salary isn't unreasonable, but it's high enough to put off the other teams from signing him up. At least we would have to wait for a sponsor for the KeSPA team to see how it goes from there.
(´・ω・`)
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51663 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 08:42:10
November 12 2011 08:39 GMT
#211
Samsung KHAN sign (Z)Shine

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121139&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 12 2011 08:41 GMT
#212
I hope the other players can find teams too
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 12 2011 08:54 GMT
#213
On November 12 2011 17:39 GTR wrote:
Samsung KHAN sign (Z)Shine

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121139&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


Shine Grandma will be happy ^^
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 12 2011 09:00 GMT
#214
On November 12 2011 17:39 GTR wrote:
Samsung KHAN sign (Z)Shine

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121139&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


Excellent. Khan's zerg line is still weak but that's still better than non-existant. Now someone just needs to pick up Midas.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
November 12 2011 09:02 GMT
#215
LOL finally Khan has some way to knock out Bisu in ProLeague.
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 12 2011 09:05 GMT
#216
Quoting from shine on a game versus a protoss , I tried to to end the game quickly because I need to use the toilet . Damn shine you are so badass ^^.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
November 12 2011 09:11 GMT
#217
On November 12 2011 17:39 GTR wrote:
Samsung KHAN sign (Z)Shine

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121139&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


great news. With Roro and now they sign Shine, can't wait for new season start.
Thanks GTR for the update.
Learn,live and love it.
nok.jp
Profile Joined August 2009
Japan248 Posts
November 12 2011 09:19 GMT
#218
this is a good news for KHAN! Because stork was somehow weak at FOX players...
now no needs to play against them lol
( ゚∀゚)o彡°ビョング!ビョング! A writer @ sc-times.net
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 12 2011 09:25 GMT
#219
On November 12 2011 18:19 nok.jp wrote:
this is a good news for KHAN! Because stork was somehow weak at FOX players...
now no needs to play against them lol



(P)Stork < (Z)Hydra still T_T
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
EffectS
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium795 Posts
November 12 2011 09:33 GMT
#220
Don't you have to take state exams to be a policeman in S.Korea?
TEEHEE
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