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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
 Anytime - Thinking of retiringLuCifer - Thinking of retiring Saint - Undecided Lomo - Auxiliary PolicemanPure - Temp retirementHiyA - Interested in making the switch to SC2HyuN / RuBy / Midas / Shine - Wants to continue as BW ProgamersB-Teamers - Most expected to retire Source: fomos | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
I've enjoyed games from all of them in the past T_T Really hops Sashin stays with it, if I could keep any of them it'd be the Death God. | ||
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hahaimhenry
Canada368 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
i dont' see that working :/ and poor hiya stay with bw! | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
(T)HiyA - you are dead to me | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Ideas
United States8091 Posts
bubble gum cop wtf | ||
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:16 ii.blitzkrieg wrote: You know you wanna come back to xD Fixed? | ||
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
I have nothing to say about hiya, usually pro players who stream rarely comes back to the proleague game they use to play for there is a trend that has been going around .Here's hopping for a optimistic outcome for all of them . | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:16 Legatus Lanius wrote: (Z)HyuN / (T)RuBy / (T)Midas / (Z)Shine - respect (T)HiyA - you are dead to me you fucking serious,dead to you? the fact that its hard for him and that no team is picking him up bears no weight on your judgement? | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
Also, lol @ Lomo being a cop | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:23 Grobyc wrote: I don't care if players switch to SC2 or what, I just want them to continue playing SC and not retire t.t. Don't do it anytime! >.< Also, lol @ Lomo being a cop Anytime wanted to be a playing coach for a team but now is considering retiring .. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: you fucking serious,dead to you? the fact that its hard for him and that no team is picking him up bears no weight on your judgement? Agreed. Do people hate SC2 so much that they will hate a player they previously liked? | ||
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Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:27 Zooper31 wrote: Agreed. Do people hate SC2 so much that they will hate a player they previously liked? The unfortunate truth is yes. Some people do. I've come to terms with the fact that people aren't exactly rational long ago. Half the people who act like that, though, I've noticed, haven't been around too long to begin with, oddly enough. | ||
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Pelopidas
Canada225 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:27 Zooper31 wrote: Agreed. Do people hate SC2 so much that they will hate a player they previously liked? Well, it is a tender time, and BW may be on its last legs. I can sympathize with hating any player who becomes The Turncloak, and brings the death of BW. | ||
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Ryo
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
I hope 4 who want to continue in BW find new teams (even Shine), but I especially hope Midas finds a home. As for Hiya, I hope he has a change of heart and gives BW another shot. From the translations in the thread about him streaming games it seems the environment in Hwaseung wasn't so good. Maybe a change in scenery at a more player friendly team like STX or Khan would do him some good. If not then I still wish him luck in SC2. It's better to see Hiya in the GSL booths than not playing games at all. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
So far I haven't seen any organisation like that exist until now , It's either make a pro game team become the best or left to rot and go back to college. | ||
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
i guess all things have to come to an end. i'll still love you sashin!! | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: you fucking serious,dead to you? the fact that its hard for him and that no team is picking him up bears no weight on your judgement? yeah im fucking serious bratan | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:35 Ryo wrote: Good luck to all of them. I hope the 8th team picks up a few more players after they get their sponsor. They still have place on their team for 5-6 more players. 5-6?I'm sure they can house/afford more. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:35 red4ce wrote: I wish Lucifer would consider switching to SC2 instead of retiring. The "Lee Young Ho to SC2!" thread would be the biggest rickroll in TL history. I hope 4 who want to continue in BW find new teams (even Shine), but I especially hope Midas finds a home. As for Hiya, I hope he has a change of heart and gives BW another shot. From the translations in the thread about him streaming games it seems the environment in Hwaseung wasn't so good. Maybe a change in scenery at a more player friendly team like STX or Khan would do him some good. If not then I still wish him luck in SC2. It's better to see Hiya in the GSL booths than not playing games at all. That would be hilarious haha, but I think my heart would skip a beat. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:48 BLinD-RawR wrote: 5-6?I'm sure they can house/afford more. 5-6 more A or B teamers. MBC, Fox and Oz each had 14-17 players on their teams so its around that size. | ||
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tedster
984 Posts
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
So the fact that Hiya is doing the most financially secure option to him has no bearing to you? Stay classy | ||
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
So sad to see these pros go. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:58 Dakkas wrote: So the fact that Hiya is doing the most financially secure option to him has no bearing to you? Stay classy i liked him because he played brood war, a game i loved to watch. if he doesnt play it anymore, i dont care about him. get it? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:04 Legatus Lanius wrote: i liked him because he played brood war, a game i loved to watch. if he doesnt play it anymore, i dont care about him. get it? hate the game not the player. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
i never said i hated him, i just said hes dead to me. i dont care about him anymore | ||
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Chimpalimp
United States1135 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:08 Legatus Lanius wrote: i never said i hated him, i just said hes dead to me. i dont care about him anymore yeah you say that now,but the moment Khan picks him up you'd be like "OMG HIYA I LOVE YOU" how many times have you changed your team tag by the way? seriously your attitude towards player's life decisions is the worst. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:10 Chimpalimp wrote: Tbh, the B-teamers is the biggest loss here. If BW cannot keep getting new B teamers, it will bleed out soon enough. Seeing 3 entire teams of B-teamers just vanish is really unsettling for anyone thinking of going pro. As rough as being a pro gamer is, this has to scare any newcomer more than anything else. Indeed. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:11 BLinD-RawR wrote: yeah you say that now,but the moment Khan picks him up you'd be like "OMG HIYA I LOVE YOU" how many times have you changed your team tag by the way? of course i say that now, because hes looking to switch. if he stuck with brood war, i wouldnt give him any flak. i didnt think it was that hard to understand bratan ive changed it many times, maybe 5 or 6 whatever. i really couldnt care less about your opinion | ||
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JohnnyPG
United States39 Posts
He's no Jaedong, who is still commanding a massive salary playing BW, Jaedong himself said that he WILL be making the switch to SC2 once the time is right, and I dont care if Jaedong switched to fucking League of Legends, hes one of my favorite RTS players ever, I will follow him. Hiya is a great player, but he didnt get picked up, still wants to be a pro gamer, and Starcraft 2 is expanding rapidly. "i never said i hated him, i just said hes dead to me. i dont care about him anymore" I hope you arent the image for the majority of BW fans, if so, maybe its a good thing that BW is on its last legs, it will weed out the "fans" like you and leave actual fans. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
im sorry i dont have the dumb mentality of following jaedong wherever he goes. i certainly wouldnt be watching him if he decided to take up counter strike or quake, the game doesnt interest me | ||
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moochu
Australia374 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:19 Legatus Lanius wrote: yeah lmao, im certainly not an actual brood war fan, because i only care about them playing, you know, brood war. if they find brood war financially unviable then thats their choice, but dont expect me to follow them around and pat them on the back when they arent doing the only thing i liked them for in the first place im sorry i dont have the dumb mentality of following jaedong wherever he goes. i certainly wouldnt be watching him if he decided to take up counter strike or quake, the game doesnt interest me I knew it,no respect for players,no respect for teams. I'm sure you'd be satisfied in just watching 2 perfect(perfect in everything) AI bots playing BW against each other over and over. well whatever,its not worth arguing strong opinions. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:22 moochu wrote: Kudos to JohnnyPG for being a level headed fan. what is so irrational about liking a player only because they play the game you like to watch? i dont care about substitute games, their personality or their purpose in life. is it really THAT hard to understand that someone likes them as a proxy for watching great brood war? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:24 Legatus Lanius wrote: what is so irrational about liking a player only because they play the game you like to watch? i dont care about substitute games, their personality or their purpose in life. is it really THAT hard to understand that someone likes them as a proxy for watching great brood war? yes. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:23 BLinD-RawR wrote: I knew it,no respect for players,no respect for teams. I'm sure you'd be satisfied in just watching 2 perfect(perfect in everything) AI bots playing BW against each other over and over. well whatever,its not worth arguing strong opinions. i dont care about who the players are so long as i get to see some good brood war. if thats a lack of respect then fine, i dont care. and yes, i would like to see constant high level play, and if bots are the best fit for that then sure | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:24 Legatus Lanius wrote: what is so irrational about liking a player only because they play the game you like to watch? i dont care about substitute games, their personality or their purpose in life. is it really THAT hard to understand that someone likes them as a proxy for watching great brood war? I do agree with legatus as I do have the same opinion as him, I am fan of these players because they are playing the game i like . Even If they do switch to sc2 , they aren't the same players that I already shared and experience because I no longer share the same opinion like they do . | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
then try thinking a bit harder. im not hiya's wife, if he didnt play brood war i wouldnt even care that he existed. im not suddenly interested in his personality or life because i like watching his brood war, the same way i didnt really give a fuck about joe pass's lifestyle so long as he kept pumping out good jazz | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
I hope Hiya doesn't switch. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:29 Legatus Lanius wrote: then try thinking a bit harder. im not hiya's wife, if he didnt play brood war i wouldnt even care that he existed. im not suddenly interested in his personality or life because i like watching his brood war, the same way i didnt really give a fuck about joe pass's lifestyle so long as he kept pumping out good jazz being emotionally involved in a player's growth is extremely rewarding,because you feel 10 time better when they win, of course you are also going to feel 10 times worse when they lose but hey thats the life of a sports is right? well I really cannot expect everyone to feel the same way towards the game as I do,but when you are so involved with their growth you tend to understand why they make such life decisions and you can learn to deal with it. | ||
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actionbastrd
Congo598 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:29 Legatus Lanius wrote: then try thinking a bit harder. im not hiya's wife, if he didnt play brood war i wouldnt even care that he existed. im not suddenly interested in his personality or life because i like watching his brood war, the same way i didnt really give a fuck about joe pass's lifestyle so long as he kept pumping out good jazz Who is that boxer guy? I dunno, i also faintly remember a guy named nada. Not important to remember tho. I think i saw SC2 by their names once. Well what about July?..... what about July? its an okay month i suppose... if your American there is July 4th which is pretty entertaining sometimes. I think the point is you were never really a fan of him, you just follow the bw elitism of the top teir because it is what the cool kids are doing. You could easily say you were never a fan and you dont care. No one would be confused with that. But to say someone is dead to you is just silly. But to each his own i suppose. It is just unnecessarily harsh for no real reason at all. You can still like his play post-BW retirement. Instead hes dead to you. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:37 BLinD-RawR wrote: being emotionally involved in a player's growth is extremely rewarding,because you feel 10 time better when they win f course you are going to feel 10 times worse when they lose but hey thats how a sport is right? well I really cannot expect everyone to feel the same way towards the game as I do,but when you are so involved with their growth you tend to understand why they make such life decisions and you can learn to deal with it. i dont care if they lose so long as they play good broodwar. if they play terrible and still win, id be less happy i never said i didnt understand his decision. i know why he is doing it, i just have no reason to care for him anymore | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:37 actionbastrd wrote: Who is that boxer guy? I dunno, i also faintly remember a guy named nada. Not important to remember tho. I think i saw SC2 by their names once. Well what about July?..... what about July? its an okay month i suppose... if your American there is July 4th which is pretty entertaining sometimes. I think the point is you were never really a fan of him, you just follow the bw elitism of the top teir because it is what the cool kids are doing. You could easily say you were never a fan and you dont care. No one would be confused with that. But to say someone is dead to you is just silly. But to each his own i suppose. It is just unnecessarily harsh for no real reason at all. You can still like his play post-BW retirement. Instead hes dead to you. no you're just talking shit. im a bw elitist that follows bw because its top tier, simply becaues i was never a fan of the person themselves? get this through your head, I LIKE THEIR PLAY. I DONT CARE ABOUT THEM AS AN INDIVIDUAL. i like brood war and i dont like sc2, does that make me an elitist? if so, fine, ill wear that it boggles my mind that some people still cant understand what im saying | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
well, I hope he does continue at one of the games, at least if he switches to SC2 he will add some personality to the korean scene. | ||
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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Troxior
United States168 Posts
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
And lol at the lack of reading comprehension in this thread >.>... | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:50 soujiro_ wrote: such a cruel op title, sashin is not leftover neither is shine nor ruby o.O well thats what they are,they have been left over to decide their fate. | ||
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Ideas
United States8091 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
So will the Kespa team not have B-teamers? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:00 sGs.Kal_rA wrote: Shame about Hiya =[ Don't leave us! Your the most entertaining terran out there!! So will the Kespa team not have B-teamers? doesn't seem like it... I hope they find a sponsor to accommodate them,losing talent is bad. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
We have to let ForGG gain some strength in the SC2 scene before another BW pro switches over. We can't have too many switching over at the same time, otherwise it'll be too much. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Lucifer'd better play SC2, I can definitely see a mediocre protoss like him be a new MC. Saint could be a good commentator, but now that MBC Game closed down.... Lomo is too cute to be a policeman... Pure, not sure what his plan is. Hiya, too bad the Kespa team already got two very good terran, you'll be missed, keep streaming Magikarp ! Ruby, I liked you TvZ, but I don't see any team that would pick you. Midas, please don't retire little bear ! Shine, as a Bisu/Stork fan, I only wish that you'll keep playing so that my favorite players can revenge. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:02 nayumi wrote: Legatus has a valid opinion and I don't think it's right to bash him over that ... sure he might have expressed it a little bit harshly but it's not that hard to understand ... except for Boxer and Nada, i don't even know or care how the ex-BW players are doing in SC2 nowadays, simply because I'm not their fans ... I appreciated July's plays in BW but that's about it, i'm not his fan as a person (nothing against him really, just not a fan) ... I never said his opinion was invalid ,I don't understand the extreme change in how one person can view another. one day its I like this guy,the next you're dead to me...thats what ticks me off. | ||
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:43 Legatus Lanius wrote: no you're just talking shit. im a bw elitist that follows bw because its top tier, simply becaues i was never a fan of the person themselves? get this through your head, I LIKE THEIR PLAY. I DONT CARE ABOUT THEM AS AN INDIVIDUAL. i like brood war and i dont like sc2, does that make me an elitist? if so, fine, ill wear that it boggles my mind that some people still cant understand what im saying Well, I'm sure almost everyone except for you attaches someone's great play to the actual individual. For myself, I enjoy BW because I am amazed with the great play, and I'm even more amazed that an actual person is playing this game at 300+ APM while microing/macroing/multitasking/strategizing, something that I as another human being cannot do even with years of training. I don't think anyone, except for you apparently, can watch years and years of some bots going at it in proleagues and starleagues. The rivalries, underdogs, prestige, and the domination of some players makes me stick to BW. | ||
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Nazza
Australia1654 Posts
Midas should definitely still play. The B-teamers should do what they want. I wouldn't mind if they switched and started owning up the scene. I think it's reasonable if they earned a bit of the spotlight for their years of hard work. But I'd like to see some more ppl like firefist and end up in a respectable career. If Lomo wants to become a traffic cop it's his decision. | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:05 BLinD-RawR wrote: I never said his opinion was invalid ,I don't understand the extreme change in how one person can view another. one day its I like this guy,the next you're dead to me...thats what ticks me off. how is that a change of view on the person? he doesnt care about the person outside of broodwar now so if they switch 2 SC2 he just doesnt watch them or whatsoever.... the whole time i read t his thread i ask myself if you guys just dont want 2 understand it. he doesnt hate hiya and no he doesnt want him dead he just doesnt give a shit about SC2 so if hiya switches he is "dead" he is not watching him anymore. and yes i wouldnt watch Jaedong play some LoL shit or even SC2. Iam fan of him because of what he does in SC1 not in some other game i dont like. | ||
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Ideas
United States8091 Posts
(P)Anytime - playing coach at kespa or woongjin (P)LuCifer - team kespa (Z)Saint - playing coach at kespa (T)HiyA - woongjin needs a new terran now that really is gone (Z)HyuN - STX, KHAN, or team kespa (T)RuBy - STX: Bogus is great but needs better back-up, and a player with a lot of experience would greatly benefit the team. (T)Midas - team kespa, STX, or woongjin could use an experienced player like midas. (Z)Shine - STX, KHAN, or team kespa | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:49 Ideas wrote: i think the best fits would be: (P)Anytime - playing coach at kespa or woongjin (P)LuCifer - team kespa (Z)Saint - playing coach at kespa (T)HiyA - woongjin needs a new terran now that really is gone (Z)HyuN - STX, KHAN, or team kespa (T)RuBy - STX: Bogus is great but needs better back-up, and a player with a lot of experience would greatly benefit the team. (T)Midas - team kespa, STX, or woongjin could use an experienced player like midas. (Z)Shine - STX, KHAN, or team kespa SKT were interested in Ruby but they didn't want to pay him his current salary rate so they ended up drafting 2 zergs (whom they don't really need) instead. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 07 2011 13:43 Legatus Lanius wrote: no you're just talking shit. im a bw elitist that follows bw because its top tier, simply becaues i was never a fan of the person themselves? get this through your head, I LIKE THEIR PLAY. I DONT CARE ABOUT THEM AS AN INDIVIDUAL. i like brood war and i dont like sc2, does that make me an elitist? if so, fine, ill wear that it boggles my mind that some people still cant understand what im saying You need to get your head out of your ass. | ||
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JohnnyPG
United States39 Posts
But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:47 rasers wrote: how is that a change of view on the person? he doesnt care about the person outside of broodwar now so if they switch 2 SC2 he just doesnt watch them or whatsoever.... the whole time i read t his thread i ask myself if you guys just dont want 2 understand it. he doesnt hate hiya and no he doesnt want him dead he just doesnt give a shit about SC2 so if hiya switches he is "dead" he is not watching him anymore. and yes i wouldnt watch Jaedong play some LoL shit or even SC2. Iam fan of him because of what he does in SC1 not in some other game i dont like. you are only a fan of what jaedong does in BW,not of him. I'm not arguing this anymore,its a complete derail,if you want to continue take it to PMs. On November 07 2011 14:59 JohnnyPG wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok, since that is all over, I simply have to ask this question, and I am NOT trolling or attempting to start a flame war by doing this.... But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. you are going off on a huuuge tangent talking abut BW and SC2 in general,which has nothing to do with this thread and very little to do with HiyA's situation. | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: you are only a fan of what jaedong does in BW,not of him. I'm not arguing this anymore,its a complete derail,if you want to continue take it to PMs. i became a fan of him because of BW. and i might follow some stuff outside of the game if he switches. but i wont watch a game i fucking dont like just because he is playing. u would eat some tiger balls just because jaedong likes them or what? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 15:01 rasers wrote: i became a fan of him because of BW. and i might follow some stuff outside of the game if he switches. but i wont watch a game i fucking dont like just because he is playing. u would eat some tiger balls just because jaedong likes them or what? are tiger balls good? | ||
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JohnnyPG
United States39 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:59 JohnnyPG wrote: Ok, since that is all over, I simply have to ask this question, and I am NOT trolling or attempting to start a flame war by doing this.... But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. Obviously you wouldn't understand why people would watch BW if you've never even understood the game. The only people that think BW has been stagnant are the people that don't understand what they're watching. There is so much more depth and variety in BW than there is in SC2, even today. Watching SC2 is an extreme bore except for a few choice players. | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
i dont like them. but since jaedong likes them i have 2 eat them so i can be his fan right?  | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
I can understand the sentiment. For me I don't wish ill on July or Nada or Boxer, but I just don't care about anything they're doing really since they switched. The magic was in those individuals playing that certain game. Now, there are players I care about as much as I did those three in SC2, but they're new because the combination is right. As far as Hiya is concerned I'll ever want BW to live on, but as has been previously stated maybe he'll have the personality for it. Maybe he'll make me fall in love with that instant all over again by playing SC2. But I already love him where he is and as a fan it's a hard thing to gamble on when you're thinking about where you want them. Thrilled that Shine and Ruby as staying on, but I just wish Hiya would too. Here's to hoping ^_^ | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
but seriously going from "OMG THE BEST" to "meh I don't care" is fucking weird. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:59 JohnnyPG wrote: Ok, since that is all over, I simply have to ask this question, and I am NOT trolling or attempting to start a flame war by doing this.... But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. Cs 1.6 is a very old game and yet people love it why ??? | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:59 JohnnyPG wrote: Ok, since that is all over, I simply have to ask this question, and I am NOT trolling or attempting to start a flame war by doing this.... But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. Most BW fans don't hate SC2, they just don't care. As for most of your points, especially the highlighted bits, they're simply not true. If you can't see why they aren't true, then you probably don't understand the game or the scene well enough. | ||
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JohnnyPG
United States39 Posts
"People still still like CS even though its old, and they also despise MW2 or COD or (insert any modern competitive RTS lmfao)" I just asked why the hatred from BW fans to SC2. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On November 07 2011 15:16 JohnnyPG wrote: That didnt really answer my question at all, people will always love the classics, I will always like BW, but what your saying in comparison to my question is something akin to.. "People still still like CS even though its old, and they also despise MW2 or COD or (insert any modern competitive RTS lmfao)" I just asked why the hatred from BW fans to SC2. Edit : I derailed the thread I am sorry T_T | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
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JohnnyPG
United States39 Posts
Now I know better, thanks!! | ||
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actionbastrd
Congo598 Posts
On November 07 2011 15:06 rasers wrote: i dont like them. but since jaedong likes them i have 2 eat them so i can be his fan right? I dont think one person in this thread on any side said you have to like something just because someone your a fan of someone does. BR even said hate the game not the player. In this case i guess its hate tiger balls?... and not the player. I dont even know how you got to this point. No one said if hiya did sc2 full time that you had to enjoy sc2.... just like if he started playing a FPS full time like COD you dont have to enjoy it. confusing. At any rate i think its awesome a pro-gamer would choose to be a cop, especially if its a traffic cop. Thinking about it, that micro has to have some good real-life applications! :D And why not micro traffic. | ||
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mansa
Philippines336 Posts
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R11
Canada213 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:59 JohnnyPG wrote: Ok, since that is all over, I simply have to ask this question, and I am NOT trolling or attempting to start a flame war by doing this.... But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. Perhaps its biased on having watched BW for so long but I personally find it harder to watch SC2 especially when units are clumped together, in BW it's easier in general to count the amount of units and see then if the opposite player manages to hold you would think his strong micro probably contributed to it. In SC2 battles IMO it's more difficult to see. But the thing that really kept me interested in BW is the level of execution the players had. Again its just my opinion but as a D level player, the things pros were able to do were things I could NEVER do even if I played the game for another 4-5 years. In SC2, while I will not be able to execute as well as them, it didn't feel like I could NEVER do those stuffs but just not do it as effectively. I'm not sure if others feel the same way, but I guess BW being a classic, and perhaps the simplified mechanics in SC2 made people feel it is not as well done hence the animosity. Also, TL before SC2 was mainly a BW site that covered korean BW scene, so IMO its understandable that when a lot of new members came, there was some misinformed ideas about BW being just all mechanics without strategy and old graphics that really angered BW fans. | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
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sheaRZerg
United States613 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
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Iplaythings
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:59 JohnnyPG wrote: Ok, since that is all over, I simply have to ask this question, and I am NOT trolling or attempting to start a flame war by doing this.... But what is it with all the hate that Starcraft 2 gets from all of the BW fans??? Yes, the players in BW had to have 300 + APM, but that was a necessity, due to a sloppy interface/AI pathing system, while it showed great skill and definitely increased the skill ceiling, it certainly doesnt make the game all that more entertaining to watch (strictly my opinion there, you cant "see" them performing all of the tedious macro/pathing executions) Yes, BW was/is/will always be a fucking LEGEND, AMAZING games with AMAZING players....But its old....Very very old. SC2 has an immediate spectator advantage, the graphics are gorgeous, and its able to be filmed in full HD. The computers they play BW on is equivalent to making toast with the exhaust of a launching rocket ship, the game is just straight out old and outdated graphically. BW is almost strictly in Korea, and Korea was always the most dominate by a landslide, which is cool and everything, but seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. SC2 is all over the world, and because it is such a new game, the potential is virtually unlimited, considering it will change drastically with every new expansion, we have YEARS AND YEARS of new and exciting faces and strategy :D :D How could any true SC fan NOT be stoked over that??? And BW is just, kind of limping along at this point, from a business standpoint it completely makes sense, sponsors are seeing the massive potential for growth in SC2, and are wanting to invest in something that is up and coming, not something that will eventually be a ghost of the past, its all about the money, and while there is still formidable amounts of money for the tip...tip...tip top players in BW, I cant see any new comers going to the scene, and neither do the sponsors, its just financially unsound to invest in BW when you can invest in something that is catching the E-Sports scene on fire worldwide. This is ALL just my opinion, please dont flame me, but this is how I see it, and just answer me, what is with all of the animosity towards SC2 from BW fans??? I am sorry if this made anyone mad by the way. Because we have people like you telling us that the game we love is limping and its graphics suck (which is really unrelated to the thread by the way). Sorry for writing such a short answer, but it's as simple as that. I don't have a natural animosity against SC2 players, but after your post that was totally out of topic, only to tell us our game is outdated, your only argument being that it's "old, very very old", I do have animosity against you. Obviously, when some people from SC2 who didn't know Brood War much if at all, and are curious about it we are more than glad to welcome them : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280281 | ||
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worosei
Australia198 Posts
He wants those handcuffs | ||
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On November 07 2011 15:50 sheaRZerg wrote: It seems like only yesterday that shine was beating up on Bisu *sniffle* I find it amusing that neither SKT nor Khan would pick up Shine, even though they both wanted zergs. If you don't find a team, then farewell Shine, slayer of Taekbang. I'm not all too sorry to see you go ^^ | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On November 07 2011 15:43 R11 wrote: TL before SC2 was mainly a BW site that covered korean BW scene, so IMO its understandable that when a lot of new members came, there was some misinformed ideas about BW being just all mechanics without strategy and old graphics that really angered BW fans. This is the biggest reason for the us vs them mentality a lot of us here on the BW forum have. It's hard to believe, but not that long ago TL was 95% about BW with a tiny SC2 section where people talked about when the beta might come out. Now it's 95% SC2 with a tiny BW section where people bash SC2 out of spite, engage in flamewars with SC2 people who think it's a good idea to come in and tell us that it's about time our favorite players all switched to SC2, and a tiny tiny bit of discussion about the game and upcoming proleague season On topic: I hope someone picks up all the guys who want to continue. I'd LOVE to have Hiya on Khan, but I doubt Samsung will pay him. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:07 Gann1 wrote: This is the biggest reason for the us vs them mentality a lot of us here on the BW forum have. It's hard to believe, but not that long ago TL was 95% about BW with a tiny SC2 section where people talked about when the beta might come out. Now it's 95% SC2 with a tiny BW section where people bash SC2 out of spite, engage in flamewars with SC2 people who think it's a good idea to come in and tell us that it's about time our favorite players all switched to SC2, and a tiny tiny bit of discussion about the game and upcoming proleague season On topic: I hope someone picks up all the guys who want to continue. I'd LOVE to have Hiya on Khan, but I doubt Samsung will pay him. It's hard to have a discussion when not much info about the new season was released by Kespa up till last Friday. Until they'd officially announced the formation of the Dream Team, all we'd heard throughout the off-season were negative rumours. Naturally this put off a lot of BW fans. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
If worst comes to shove, they should just transition to SC2. Their situation is so sad!! :[ | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Anywho, I wish Anytime all the luck in the world in finding a new home or another path in life. | ||
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
It's really hard to express my thoughts on this and I might even contradict myself due to my wording, but you get the general idea. Hope all of these guys find jobs within SC. Anytime, my favourite protoss, better not leave me T_T | ||
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JohnnyPG
United States39 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:05 endy wrote: Because we have people like you telling us that the game we love is limping and its graphics suck (which is really unrelated to the thread by the way). Sorry for writing such a short answer, but it's as simple as that. I don't have a natural animosity against SC2 players, but after your post that was totally out of topic, only to tell us our game is outdated, your only argument being that it's "old, very very old", I do have animosity against you. Obviously, when some people from SC2 who didn't know Brood War much if at all, and are curious about it we are more than glad to welcome them : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280281 I asked for no flames and did not mean offense, and alas, there is one, maybe you missed the parts where I said I BW is hands down no questions asked an amazing game that will always be considered legendary amongst the RTS. And if you are trying to argue that it isnt outdated and that it isnt very old....lmfao. And saying its limping along after freaking 12 years is a compliment if anything, 12 years for the game to finally start dying out? My god, in that light BW looks like (and is in my opinion) a fucking masterpiece!! hahaha Thanks for all the intelligent responses everyone :D And to you endy....you sound awful mad bro. | ||
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Thurokiir
United States779 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:20 NationInArms wrote: We must keep HiyA in BW! So he can make no money and be kept on bench with few opportunities for stage time? Not a good way to live. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:29 JohnnyPG wrote: And if you are trying to argue that it isnt outdated and that it isnt very old....lmfao. "outdated"? And you want to know why there is "hate"? really? | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
"everyone is entitled to their own opinions" is not an good excuse for being a jackass. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:26 JIJIyO wrote: I agree with Legatus 100%. Despite his phrasing and presentation of his thoughts, I totally agree with the idea of it. I love July, Nada, Boxer, etc. Always wanted them to succeed when playing SC. When they play sc2? I don't really care how they place in tournaments and whatnot. If they were the best player or the worst player on earth doesn't concern me. Of course because of my attachment to them I would want them to make money and whatnot, but in the end it's not the game I love. I LOVE Jaedong. If he went to do something else, of course I would kind of keep tabs on him, but ultimately it wouldn't be the same. It's really hard to express my thoughts on this and I might even contradict myself due to my wording, but you get the general idea. Hope all of these guys find jobs within SC. Anytime, my favourite protoss, better not leave me T_T if you read my posts you will also see myself contradicting too,yeah I get it maybe its only because of the fact that I do watch SC2 from time to time(lack of PL) that I've not lost any sense of attachment,but the way he put it out is so damn wrong and since I don't know this person at all it makes it hard to know what he thinks,but judging from what his responses are he is trying to say something like "if you don't play BW anymore, you don't exist". note to self:never engage in a pointless debate on a pointless topic where there is nothing at stake. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
please get your SC2 vs BW discussion, who likes who by how much and all that nonsense out of this thread | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
Also going to miss Lomo, though it was pretty obvious that he was very unlikely to perform well ever again. | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:36 BLinD-RawR wrote: if you read my posts you will also see myself contradicting too,yeah I get it maybe its only because of the fact that I do watch SC2 from time to time(lack of PL) that I've not lost any sense of attachment,but the way he put it out is so damn wrong and since I don't know this person at all it makes it hard to know what he thinks,but judging from what his responses are he is trying to say something like "if you don't play BW anymore, you don't exist". and whats wrong with that? if hiya stops playing BW and switches over to SC2 he wont exist for this guy since he wont watch it... | ||
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Ideas
United States8091 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:42 matjlav wrote: I wonder how Sang, Speed, and Ryul2 got selected to get put on the 8th team, while players like Hiya, Hyun, Shine, Ruby, and Midas got left in the dust. I really hope that those five players can find a way to stay in BW as I quite like all of them :/ Also going to miss Lomo, though it was pretty obvious that he was very unlikely to perform well ever again. they probably had such a small salary/unknown reputation that they could afford to keep them on the kespa team and no other teams would be interested in bidding for them. the kespa team wont be successful without more practice partners. that's why it's important that they form a proper B-team for kespa (as well as more A-teamers) ASAP. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:42 matjlav wrote: I wonder how Sang, Speed, and Ryul2 got selected to get put on the 8th team, while players like Hiya, Hyun, Shine, Ruby, and Midas got left in the dust. I really hope that those five players can find a way to stay in BW as I quite like all of them :/ I want to know too, my first thought was money but everyone except Jaedong got a pay raise so thats obviously not the case because then instead of giving a raise they could have gotten a few more players. I think its because they needed to have some mandatory 3 rookies on the team. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:42 matjlav wrote: I wonder how Sang, Speed, and Ryul2 got selected to get put on the 8th team, while players like Hiya, Hyun, Shine, Ruby, and Midas got left in the dust. I really hope that those five players can find a way to stay in BW as I quite like all of them :/ Also going to miss Lomo, though it was pretty obvious that he was very unlikely to perform well ever again. On November 07 2011 16:48 BLinD-RawR wrote: I want to know too, my first thought was money but everyone except Jaedong got a pay raise so thats obviously not the case because then instead of giving a raise they could have gotten a few more players. I think its because they needed to have some mandatory 3 rookies on the team. They wanted to select 3 rookies after the 6 protected players they already had. Han Sang Yong (former head coach of Oz) who now coaches the Dream Team, thinks highly of Ryul2 and Speed (former Oz players) so that's why they were recruited even though they have not played any PL games. As for Sang, his record is quite good, 2 wins 3 losses in PL and a Bo3 win over Light in the OSL prelims. Also, you can't have Jae Ssang (Jaedong + Jaehoon) without Jae Sang. Edit: It's often been said though that Sang is a lucky guy. Which is quite true since he's 1 of only 4 MBC players to find a new team. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:52 Ryo wrote: They wanted to select 3 rookies after the 6 protected players they already had. Han Sang Yong (former head coach of Oz) who now coaches the Dream Team, thinks highly of Ryul2 and Speed (former Oz players) so that's why they were recruited even though they have not played any PL games. As for Sang, his record is quite good, 2 wins 3 losses in PL and a Bo3 win over Light in the OSL prelims. Also, you can't have Jae Ssang (Jaedong + Jaehoon) without Jae Sang. Edit: It's often been said though that Sang is a lucky guy. Which is quite true since he's 1 of only 4 MBC players to find a new team. LOOL Wordplay. | ||
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epi
Canada115 Posts
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:29 JohnnyPG wrote: I asked for no flames and did not mean offense, and alas, there is one, maybe you missed the parts where I said I BW is hands down no questions asked an amazing game that will always be considered legendary amongst the RTS. And if you are trying to argue that it isnt outdated and that it isnt very old....lmfao. And saying its limping along after freaking 12 years is a compliment if anything, 12 years for the game to finally start dying out? My god, in that light BW looks like (and is in my opinion) a fucking masterpiece!! hahaha Thanks for all the intelligent responses everyone :D And to you endy....you sound awful mad bro. i'm mainly into sc2 but once I was introduced to BW from sc2 I've been following BW as much as sc2 and I can tell you that you're just flat out wrong..BW really is an amazing game and the graphics aren't /that/ bad if you just know what you're looking at...but seriously, you're acting like an idiot telling people what or what isn't good/bad. The game isn't outdated, it's still being played professionally. you probably haven't watched a game of professional brood war in your life. get to know the game before you hate on it. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:29 JohnnyPG wrote: I asked for no flames and did not mean offense, and alas, there is one, maybe you missed the parts where I said I BW is hands down no questions asked an amazing game that will always be considered legendary amongst the RTS. And if you are trying to argue that it isnt outdated and that it isnt very old....lmfao. And saying its limping along after freaking 12 years is a compliment if anything, 12 years for the game to finally start dying out? My god, in that light BW looks like (and is in my opinion) a fucking masterpiece!! hahaha Thanks for all the intelligent responses everyone :D And to you endy....you sound awful mad bro. You can't post something totally out of topic and simply ask "I don't want to be flamed". It's not because you said at the beginning of your post that BW was a legendary game that you can write bullshit right after. Your logic is flawed. I never tried to argue the game wasn't old. What I said is that your only argument was "very old => outdated", which simply doesn't make sense. Is football outdated just because it's over a century old ? You mentioned graphics ? This is highly subjective. Most people in this thread do prefer BW graphics over SC2 graphics. Oh after re-reading your post, the only other thing you put forward to try to convince us the game is outdated is seeing the same names...same faces....same strategies...That have been executed for years...come on, eventually old has to give way for new in that regard. which is simply ignorant. There are new players, there are new maps, we have new strategies as well as metagame shifts very often. Or when there aren't new players, we have old players who were slumping and came out of nowhere to win an OSL. Every BW fan here will agree that Jangbi's path to victory last OSL was breathtaking. Who are you to tell us what we should like ? If you have more convincing arguments in store, please do send me a PM as I don't want to derail this thread further. | ||
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On November 07 2011 16:50 Sufficiency wrote: The only game I remember of Hiya playing is the one which he made FBH cry. He really isn't very memorable - despite being one of the most talented out of the leftovers list. Not... memorable? ![[image loading]](http://pds20.egloos.com/pds/201007/28/63/d0060563_4c501bb469d33.jpg) No but really. Go watch Hiya vs. Boxer (you've got to know that one), or Stork vs. Hiya from Bacchus '10. That was a really fun series. And also why I think Hiya should go to Khan. He and Stork could just be dorks together all day <3 | ||
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
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epi
Canada115 Posts
On November 07 2011 17:10 Kiett wrote: No but really. Go watch Hiya vs. Boxer (you've got to know that one), or Stork vs. Hiya from Bacchus '10. That was a really fun series. And also why I think Hiya should go to Khan. He and Stork could just be dorks together all day <3 To add to this, Hiya vs. Free on Triathlon. Unmissable Hiya game. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On November 07 2011 14:55 koreasilver wrote: You need to get your head out of your ass. thanks for the advice but its value is next to nothing | ||
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villageidiot
353 Posts
On November 07 2011 17:47 Legatus Lanius wrote: thanks for the advice but its value is next to nothing IPXZerg > MVP, Bomber, Nestea > Boxer, Nada, July.  Well Nada and July are disappointments in SC2, I wouldn't advise to watch them. Boxer is plain bad. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
On November 07 2011 18:15 marttorn wrote: Haha, Lomo-cop, new korean comedy show? THE PUN,MY GOD THE PUN!!! IT BURNNNS! | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 07 2011 17:10 Kiett wrote: Not... memorable? No but really. Go watch Hiya vs. Boxer (you've got to know that one), or Stork vs. Hiya from Bacchus '10. That was a really fun series. And also why I think Hiya should go to Khan. He and Stork could just be dorks together all day <3 O shit, how can I forget that?! *cuts self* | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On November 07 2011 18:10 villageidiot wrote: IPXZerg > MVP, Bomber, Nestea > Boxer, Nada, July. Well Nada and July are disappointments in SC2, I wouldn't advise to watch them. Boxer is plain bad. Nada, July and Boxer have accomplished much more by switching to SC2 than they would have had they stayed in BW. Then again so has virtually every single BW progamer who switched. On November 07 2011 18:54 r33k wrote: Didn't Lomo say he was planning on becoming a priest? I think that was BackHo | ||
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nihoh
Australia978 Posts
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Motivate
2860 Posts
still seems to work | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If you only care about the players insofar as their BW play, then what made you a Hiya fan to begin with? | ||
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On November 07 2011 19:31 TheYango wrote: Hiya used to be capable of beating any other player, including Flash and JD, with flashy and/or solid play. Now, he seems to just not care very much and seems more interested in having fun with the game, sort of a FBHv2. I think Hiya should go into ace, see if that refuels his passion and then switch to SC2 if that doesn't work out.If you only care about the players insofar as their BW play, then what made you a Hiya fan to begin with? He probably won't be picked up by another team anyway, as sad as that is to say, because of his recent poor results | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:33 Pelopidas wrote: Well, it is a tender time, and BW may be on its last legs. I can sympathize with hating any player who becomes The Turncloak, and brings the death of BW. What is Hiya doing to bring the "death of BW"? He's OUT OF A JOB. I mean think about it for a second. someone else wrote I wish Lucifer would consider switching to SC2 instead of retiring. The "Lee Young Ho to SC2!" thread would be the biggest rickroll in TL history. LOL that would be fucking incredible. And then we link the Flash - Lucifer game on that space map where Flash got so ahead that he denied bunker harass by upgrading Marine range. Sawamura If only there exist an organisation made by gamers and for gamers to protect these players right and to see them go through society and such . I'm pretty sure that's how KeSPA started right? But anyway they've done the best they could under the circumstances. They could never keep 3 teams' worth of players on the payroll, but keeping a select few that are likely to get sponsored seems like the best move. someone else I hope you arent the image for the majority of BW fans, if so, maybe its a good thing that BW is on its last legs, it will weed out the "fans" like you and leave actual fans. I don't think he is --- most BW fans can muster up enough goodwill to wish a departing player good luck when they leave for personal reasons. Saying he's "dead to me" is pretty damn emo. On November 07 2011 13:24 Legatus Lanius wrote: what is so irrational about liking a player only because they play the game you like to watch? i dont care about substitute games, their personality or their purpose in life. is it really THAT hard to understand that someone likes them as a proxy for watching great brood war? Yeah it's pretty hard to understand not appreciating the people involved... at all. Ideas I pretty much agree with Legatus Lanius. I LOVED July, but ever since he switched to SC2 I don't follow him any more because I can't stand watching SC2 and don't care about it at all. Switching to SC2 is essentially just retiring to me (it's basically what poker used to be for BW pros to retire to), and I really hope hiya doesn't follow that path. I'm just judging by your prior posts, but I sort of doubt you'd call July "dead to you." I mean sure you don't follow his games. I don't either. I'm not that interested in SC2. But would it put a smile on your face if he won a GSL or three? It would for me. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
Sad to see so many people retiring though | ||
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Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On November 07 2011 17:04 epi wrote: It's strange that nobody's signed Hiya yet. Woongjin should be salivating at the chance to replace Really with someone who is arguably better in all respects. omg that would be the greatest thing ever i mainly just hope shine finds a team so he can continue to make bisu fanboys mad the whole bw/sc2 derail was a bit sad. fortunately i've not lost any of my favourite players to it yet, but i follow mvp/supernova solely because they're ex-stars despite in the case of sair not actually seeing any of his games ever (to the best of my knowledge) | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
Anytime and Midas do need new teams though, someone start a Save the Veterans fund or something. And Lucifer never got back from that game he lost against Jaedong (proxy 2 gate vs 12hatch), sad enough | ||
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gokai
United States812 Posts
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
Hiya, Shine, Hyun - The entertainment Hope they can find a team to sign them. Otherwise, it is a great loss to the scene. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
and make him yet another woongjin terran? | ||
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IceCube
Croatia1403 Posts
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white_horse
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
Shine, too. <3 em both and it'd be sad without them around. | ||
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pedrotrv
Brazil117 Posts
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
On November 07 2011 19:48 Ciryandor wrote: Geez guys you have forgotten the GONG GAME vs Jaedong? ----- i dont know why its not listed on his tlpd profile http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/205_HiyA/ceremonies | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
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Suvorov
294 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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greenelve
Germany1392 Posts
On November 07 2011 22:59 soujiro_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-APwMXSfLPc ----- i dont know why its not listed on his tlpd profile http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/205_HiyA/ceremonies What is the story behind this ceremony? And yes, this one need to be added to the tlpd profile! edit: talking about Hiya, i found this one: | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On November 08 2011 05:34 kamikami wrote: Why don't SKT1 sign Shine ? Come on that would make everyone laugh lol. You know why. ![[image loading]](http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4011/22175579pz1.jpg) Nah, in all seriousness, he probably just cost too much. Why invest in 1 decent zerg when you can get 2 other ones for the same price!!! SKT #1 financially efficient team. | ||
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mcht
Germany201 Posts
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Snausages
United States529 Posts
On November 08 2011 06:07 mcht wrote: guess i'm now the proud owner of a signature from a korean policeman ;D | ||
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
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DeadBull
421 Posts
On November 07 2011 23:18 Suvorov wrote: Instead of retirement, come over to SC2 you sillies. User was temp banned for this post. wtf is wrong with saying that ? omg | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
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Rainmaker5
United States1027 Posts
On November 08 2011 06:46 blackone wrote: And saying stuff like "Hiya is dead to me" clearly isn't. That was by far the most disrespectful point in this thread. | ||
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Caos2
United States1728 Posts
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NagAfightinG
United Kingdom270 Posts
On November 08 2011 06:27 heyoka wrote: It's baiting for a long drawn out discussion on a sensitive topic. Isnt that what a forum is designed for? :S | ||
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
On November 08 2011 06:51 Rainmaker5 wrote: That was by far the most disrespectful point in this thread. It was stated in a clearly blunt way but I think his point is valid, I feel myself siding towards his direction with regards to players switching over. I just can't root for anyone who I used to in BW but switched to SC2 because I don't feel any connection as a fan to them and after a while they as a player do not exist for me any more basically. | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On November 08 2011 07:46 Taku wrote: It was stated in a clearly blunt way but I think his point is valid, I feel myself siding towards his direction with regards to players switching over. I just can't root for anyone who I used to in BW but switched to SC2 because I don't feel any connection as a fan to them and after a while they as a player do not exist for me any more basically. I don't think anyone has a problem with that. If you only watch Brood War, it doesn't matter if a player retires completely or switches to SC2. But hating an (ex) progamer or saying he is dead to you just because you don't like SC2 is unnecessary. | ||
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Blackmamba851
Ireland52 Posts
On November 08 2011 07:46 Taku wrote: It was stated in a clearly blunt way but I think his point is valid, I feel myself siding towards his direction with regards to players switching over. I just can't root for anyone who I used to in BW but switched to SC2 because I don't feel any connection as a fan to them and after a while they as a player do not exist for me any more basically. The only problem was that he said that Hiya was dead to him when he could have conveyed this in a less blunt and more respectful way. Doesn't make his opinion any less valid though. | ||
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Stuv
Netherlands942 Posts
This guy is going to rack up some GSL titles in no-time. Epic celebrations incoming behind Tastosis. | ||
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MeteorRise
Canada611 Posts
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Dandy4
United States493 Posts
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operwolf
United States324 Posts
Midas, please come back... | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On November 07 2011 21:49 konadora wrote: can't the players personally request for a lower salary just to get drafted? Yes after the draft it said that they can personally negotiate terms. | ||
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
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Piste
6175 Posts
bw forever | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
On November 07 2011 12:59 NationInArms wrote: Well, if HiyA does go to SC2, at least we'll see this in a GSL booth: hiya vs yugioh with john casting! good god please let it happen! also, hope SKT picks up midas to take oov's place as terran coach/mentor to fantasy. also, someone do a show of lomo going to police academy. hilarity will ensue. | ||
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Jragon
Australia1471 Posts
lol wtf, that isn't how you dance + Show Spoiler + lomo is the prettiest one Some good players here Hiya obviously must go to Khan, but wasn't Shine on a near PL-record win streak only last season? | ||
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keiraknightlee
United States301 Posts
 Sad to see such great players not be picked up by any teams | ||
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
On November 08 2011 07:53 blackone wrote: I don't think anyone has a problem with that. If you only watch Brood War, it doesn't matter if a player retires completely or switches to SC2. But hating an (ex) progamer or saying he is dead to you just because you don't like SC2 is unnecessary. I think you misunderstand him, that or i understand him in a completely different way. Saying someone "is dead to" you, as i understand it means that you no longer care about that person. To be honest, even though there's a (very very) small part of me wanting to see Hiya ripping everything apart in SC2 (if hes able), for the most part, any love i had for him (i liked the Magikarp, mind) will completely disappear if he switches. | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
On November 08 2011 06:13 Snausages wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om4Qhv2Ui8w Can't believe I watched the whole thing. Thx for posting Snausages (: I'm sad for the B-teamers. Devoting so much time to the game and now having to find something else to do. A lot of them will switch to SC2 and probably bring in a new generation of champions. As for Hiya - he's too good to just let slide. The SC2-switch talk is just negotiation - he wants a bigger salary. He's pretty much welcome in any team | ||
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SolidGasPro
93 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On November 08 2011 14:21 keiraknightlee wrote: Hiya was actually doing really well recently in Proleague, in fact he was the probably the second best player on Hwaseung after Jaedong, what a shame. Hyun has always been on my favorite zergs, especially after he famously beat Flash on Matchpoint Sad to see such great players not be picked up by any teamsyeah, you're not the only one wondering why nobody wants this guy | ||
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therockmanxx
Peru1174 Posts
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On November 09 2011 23:09 Cambium wrote: i recall reading it somewhere that hiya's present salary is too high? Yeah, for someone not even getting a 50% win ratio... | ||
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villageidiot
353 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
On November 09 2011 23:13 Lucumo wrote: Yeah, for someone not even getting a 50% win ratio... ikr. Can you believe what KHAN is paying JangBi, with his awesome 17-28 record in PL this year? | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On November 10 2011 02:19 Kanil wrote: ikr. Can you believe what KHAN is paying JangBi, with his awesome 17-28 record in PL this year? He won the OSL. Jangbi is worth it. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
Oz StarBeeLomoAnytimeSaberFox cOre[kaL]LuCiferMBC GwakmangnaniZerG[kaL]*I don't know where the rest are going but zerg[kal] is probably enlisting to do his military service. *Pure has enlisted but not fully retired. Source: http://www.e-sports.or.kr/news/notice_view.kea?m_code=news_20&seq=1615&where=||&query=&where_term=&PageNo=1 Let me know if there are any mistakes, thanks | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
Anytime :'(You were my favorite player. My best Starcraft memory is you storming out of the booth with your shirt off after you beat Stork in PL finals a few years ago.That was incredibly manly and awesome. It must have given a boost of confidence to the rest of the team. Damn, Lecaf Oz was such an amazing team by then. Goodd luck for your next career, but please, remain involved in ESPORTS. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 10 2011 21:58 bokchoi wrote: I hope AnyTime gets picked up or asked to coach.. either for KeSPA Team 8 or SKT :D... on that note.. who are the new SKT coaches or are those positions open atm? I don't remember seeing an announcement about any new SKT coaches, although I could be wrong. But there's a good protoss coach without a job at the moment, broadcasting every day on Afreeca. Coach Park should hire him. You know, the guy who turned Jaehoon's career around. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
Yes, that's precisely why he's a good example. | ||
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
On November 10 2011 22:11 Kanil wrote: Yes, that's precisely why he's a good example. Damn straight, hard to believe people forgot carp league already. | ||
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
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sinistral
Singapore859 Posts
On November 10 2011 22:49 hellbound wrote: Damn straight, hard to believe people forgot carp league already. I don't really get what you guys meant, but HiyA wasn't in any starleague, and was probably the second highest paid player in Oz. I wouldn't think any team would want a player with such a high required salary AND having borderline 50% win ratio. Khan has decent terrans inside, and I suppose they are cheap in terms of salaries too. I don't really see the need to get HiyA even if I was a manager of Khan, unless he accepts a salary drop which is unlikely as far as ego goes. | ||
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trexbqs
Malaysia1731 Posts
On November 10 2011 22:02 Ryo wrote: I don't remember seeing an announcement about any new SKT coaches, although I could be wrong. But there's a good protoss coach without a job at the moment, broadcasting every day on Afreeca. Coach Park should hire him. You know, the guy who turned Jaehoon's career around. Did you mean Pusan? Good Bye Anytime , Lucifer and other progamers and also zerg[kal]. zerg[kal] has great potential and now, he is retired too.and Ryo, thanks again for the updates. | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
He has such a cool playstyle. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 11 2011 00:59 trexbqs wrote: Did you mean Pusan? Good Bye Anytime , Lucifer and other progamers and also zerg[kal]. zerg[kal] has great potential and now, he is retired too.and Ryo, thanks again for the updates. Honestly, I think Zerg[kal] just got tired of waiting. I read some of the messages on his cyworld and it seems he may have decided on military service in Oct, before the draft. Not sure. As a trainee he was moved around to different teams like CJ and KT, then finally drafted by SKT only to be released last year before MBC finally took him in. Very tough. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
On November 11 2011 00:55 sinistral wrote: I don't really get what you guys meant, but HiyA wasn't in any starleague, and was probably the second highest paid player in Oz. I wouldn't think any team would want a player with such a high required salary AND having borderline 50% win ratio. Khan has decent terrans inside, and I suppose they are cheap in terms of salaries too. I don't really see the need to get HiyA even if I was a manager of Khan, unless he accepts a salary drop which is unlikely as far as ego goes. HiyA was the second highest because Oz has like no other players. Here's the list from last year, some players (Leta, notably) got pay raises for 10-11. As for a borderline 50% win player, well... In 2008-2009 he was 33-27, 55%. In 2009-2010 he was 37-26, 58%. In 2010-2011 he was 27-29, 48%. However he started round 1 and 2 in a massive slump, going 2-12. If you look at his final 4 rounds, he was 25-17, or 59%. (Stats was at 59% this year [the entire thing, unlike HiyA] and doubled his salary to around 30% more than what HiyA's salary would be.) I'd say calling him a sub-50% player is a bit disingenuous. Sometimes players just slump, doesn't always reflect on their overall skill level (ie: JangBi.) I don't think HiyA's salary is unreasonable. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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sinistral
Singapore859 Posts
On November 11 2011 02:13 Kanil wrote: HiyA was the second highest because Oz has like no other players. Here's the list from last year, some players (Leta, notably) got pay raises for 10-11. As for a borderline 50% win player, well... In 2008-2009 he was 33-27, 55%. In 2009-2010 he was 37-26, 58%. In 2010-2011 he was 27-29, 48%. However he started round 1 and 2 in a massive slump, going 2-12. If you look at his final 4 rounds, he was 25-17, or 59%. (Stats was at 59% this year [the entire thing, unlike HiyA] and doubled his salary to around 30% more than what HiyA's salary would be.) I'd say calling him a sub-50% player is a bit disingenuous. Sometimes players just slump, doesn't always reflect on their overall skill level (ie: JangBi.) I don't think HiyA's salary is unreasonable. Stats thoroughly deserve his pay raise because he really helped KT to the Proleague championship, and he's pretty much the number 2 KT progamer. Could the fact that Leta is currently the captain of CJ contribute to his pay raise, since I don't think he played well during the 10-11 PL season? Things could be different if HiyA qualifies for OSL His salary isn't unreasonable, but it's high enough to put off the other teams from signing him up. At least we would have to wait for a sponsor for the KeSPA team to see how it goes from there. | ||
GTR
51441 Posts
ShineSource: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121139&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On November 12 2011 17:39 GTR wrote: Samsung KHAN sign ShineSource: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121139&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= Shine Grandma will be happy ^^ | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On November 12 2011 17:39 GTR wrote: Samsung KHAN sign ShineSource: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121139&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= Excellent. Khan's zerg line is still weak but that's still better than non-existant. Now someone just needs to pick up Midas. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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trexbqs
Malaysia1731 Posts
On November 12 2011 17:39 GTR wrote: Samsung KHAN sign ShineSource: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121139&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= great news. With Roro and now they sign Shine, can't wait for new season start. Thanks GTR for the update. | ||
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nok.jp
Japan248 Posts
now no needs to play against them lol | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On November 12 2011 18:19 nok.jp wrote: this is a good news for KHAN! Because stork was somehow weak at FOX players... now no needs to play against them lol Stork < Hydra still T_T | ||
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EffectS
Belgium795 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On November 12 2011 18:05 Sawamura wrote: Quoting from shine on a game versus a protoss , I tried to to end the game quickly because I need to use the toilet . Damn shine you are so badass ^^. It was Sea. | ||
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sinistral
Singapore859 Posts
On November 12 2011 17:39 GTR wrote: Samsung KHAN sign ShineSource: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121139&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= I guess we don't have to see Juni play anymore. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
It's Shine dude Source Oops I failed it should have been sea instead of a protoss my bad T_T. | ||
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