EPTKOTH match controversy - Page 3
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RiSE
United States3182 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13435 Posts
It's a definite regame. I don't understand why they're both being so stupid about it =S | ||
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Samejima
Canada534 Posts
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Destroyer
Czech Republic950 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13435 Posts
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Some people claming that Breakdown should be awarded a win because he was in the lead is retarded.. It was breakdown who was disconnected ok? If I was to hold a tornament and set up the rules, I'd give automatic loss to whoever gets disconnected whether intentional or unintentional which would save a lot of hassle and conspiracies. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
That's if you believe him. No reason to think he would make that up for me atleast. | ||
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WickeD
Slovakia789 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On June 06 2005 11:33 WickeD wrote: Nobody is claiming Testie or Breakdown would've won. We are just arguing about who had the advantage and that means we all want and agree a regame is in order, so gogo re boyz. Actually alot of people claim either of them had won. The fact that there's so many different opinions about this should obviously lead to the conclusion anything could have happened. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On June 06 2005 11:33 WickeD wrote: Nobody is claiming Testie or Breakdown would've won. We are just arguing about who had the advantage and that means we all want and agree a regame is in order, so gogo re boyz. Nobody? Read the whole thread again man.. R u sure about that? | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On June 06 2005 11:19 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: lurkers without a robotics on a map where contain is powerful means zerg will have a shitload of time to power/upgrade and taking the map. they should just regame neither of them can claim they won. though after Testie not being willing to regame I can understand Breakdowns reaction =[. I guess he realized too late that testie is a faggot not worth his time. The rules on their website state that if 1 player feels he had the advantage, the admins must make the decision. And its not like Testie is out of line thinking he had the advantage. Many top calibur players have agreed with testie completely: he had a *clear* advantage. I'm not trying to imply that testie is right, but i think it shows with clarity that many players would come to Testie's conclusion. It's not just Testies ego flying high. Ret says testie was clearly ahead. So does Trek. So does FA. You say that breakdown was ahead, so does twisted and Eri.. But pretty much all of that is irrelevant. Breakdown was the person who disced. That alone gives Testie the sole right to accept or refuse a rematch. Not only that, but he took a position (which is encouraged by the rules) where the admins must make a decision for themselves. If you were jipped out of a game you thought u were clearly winning, would you not be angry as well? Would you accept a rematch immidiately? Not only that, but Testie did have a chance to calm down. He did offer to rematch. And now the player who has disconnected feels like he has been wronged because his opponent wanted to have the match investigated before rematching? GIve me a break. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28876 Posts
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On June 06 2005 11:32 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Actually he didn't disconnect. Never lost connection and entered the channel right after. That's if you believe him. No reason to think he would make that up for me atleast. That happens sometimes when you are disconnected from the game but not from the battlenet. Either way it doesn't change the fact that he was disconnected. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On June 06 2005 11:32 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Actually he didn't disconnect. Never lost connection and entered the channel right after. That's if you believe him. No reason to think he would make that up for me atleast. He exited the game. You can call it a disconnect, you can call it 'bugging out of the game', you can call it 'bw being gay', or whatever the fuck else suits the situation. Isn't the point that it happened on Breakdowns end? Breakdown is the one who <insert error of choice here>. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
I am not really interested in the moral aspects of the players... | ||
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On June 06 2005 11:36 Teroru wrote: If you were jipped out of a game you thought u were clearly winning, would you not be angry as well? Would you accept a rematch immidiately? Not only that, but Testie did have a chance to calm down. He did offer to rematch. he demanded that the rematch happen as soon as he asked at 1am breakdowns time. i think id be inclined to say no if i was breakdown too. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On June 06 2005 11:37 Liquid`Drone wrote: well, 1tym, this is mostly a showmatch with no prizes. if there were prizes, then I could easily understand why they would both want the win. but this is a showmatch.. the 7th game in a best of 7 being decided by a disconnect when the game is fairly even, (definitely neither side having WON) when the main purpose of the game is entertaining the hundreds of people who pay attention to these kinds of games, is BAD. Showmatch implies that a lot of people are looking forward to that particular games and as you mentioned, it is to be audienced by "hundreds of people who pay attention to these kind of games" right? You don't see why both player wanted a win? Some players value the prize more, some value their pride more.. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On June 06 2005 11:36 Teroru wrote: The rules on their website state that if 1 player feels he had the advantage, the admins must make the decision. And its not like Testie is out of line thinking he had the advantage. Many top calibur players have agreed with testie completely: he had a *clear* advantage. I'm not trying to imply that testie is right, but i think it shows with clarity that many players would come to Testie's conclusion. It's not just Testies ego flying high. Ret says testie was clearly ahead. So does Trek. So does FA. You say that breakdown was ahead, so does twisted and Eri.. But pretty much all of that is irrelevant. Breakdown was the person who disced. That alone gives Testie the sole right to accept or refuse a rematch. Not only that, but he took a position (which is encouraged by the rules) where the admins must make a decision for themselves. If you were jipped out of a game you thought u were clearly winning, would you not be angry as well? Would you accept a rematch immidiately? Not only that, but Testie did have a chance to calm down. He did offer to rematch. And now the player who has disconnected feels like he has been wronged because his opponent wanted to have the match investigated before rematching? GIve me a break. Of course I would rematch immidiately versus a respected player such as Breakdown (the only people I would not rematch are those who I dislike, but I wouldn't play a showmatch against them in the first place). There is absolutely no way you can claim an absolute win in a game like that. It's completely ridiculous to think the outcome of this game is 100% sure. I never said Breakdown was winning by the way. What I meant to say with my post is that the outcome of this game is unclear and Breakdown definitely had a CHANCE of being victorious. Breakdown got dropped from the game, but was never disconnected (from neither bnet nor his own connection), since I believe him when he says that I don't even consider it a 'disconnect' nor would I personally rule it like one. It's not like it took him 40 minutes to log back to bnet so Testie had to wait. He was there and they could have regamed right away, which Testie refused. I can very well understand Breakdown losing motivation to play another day after that. UNDERSTAND. That does not mean I agree with it (before it gets interpreted wrongfully again). | ||
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