EPTKOTH match controversy - Page 5
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inkblot
United States1250 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On June 06 2005 12:31 -PhiL- wrote: There wasnt a clear winner. Testie behaved bad manner, and after it, Break did. Still kinda strange, that Break says he didnt disc, so i dont know whats the truth now, after all. I didnt watch the replay until now, but after all these reads i only come to one conclusion ( Trek and Ret, and many other think testie had advantage , eri , naz, twisted, and others think break had advantage), its as simple as this if u ask me : Why do so good gamers not agree ? Because you cant really now who would have won this game, because it was all about a few questions : 1) Would Testie attack early enough, or after the lurks would have been spawned ? 2) Would he win vs the hyds with his troops ? it would have been all about the two players micro.. 3) Would have any of the two players made a big mistake ..!? So this again shows us it would have been all about what would have happened in the next minute.. or maybe minutes.. NO ONE can know this.. So theres only one answer.. make a last deciding game OR a bo3 for the decision.. i think everyone should agree with this.. the canadian testie lovers.. and the breakdown lovers.. gogo regame/s I must say I totally 100% agree with you. | ||
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United States7081 Posts
twisted is right twisted is top 5 all time bw player listen to twisted  Now that's a contribution! Seriously, I'd give the advantage to Testie. I get the feeling he'd break before Lurkers came out, or when they were morphing. He'd kill a couple with storm and run from the rest. Then he'd run and damage break's expansion while the lurkers chase him around. By the time it's over he'd have rob up. Of course, all that's hypothetical. I mean there's a reason why games don't end when one player has an advantage. Anything can happen. If lurks got up that would've been a bitch to break (damn that maps sucks pvz! could be pissy pvp too if you didn't take the initiative to contain). | ||
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Final Heaven
Japan310 Posts
On June 06 2005 12:45 1tym wrote: Don't you not agree that it makes more sense than giving breakdown a win if both players refuse to regame? I mean , if both player dont want to re , and then Testie win . So Breakdown is NOT stupid not to re when Testie doesnt want to re either . If Testie doesnt want to re , Breakdown will want a regame to avoid losing to Testie . But if Breakdown want to regame , then Testie will have to re aswell to avoid giving a freewin to Breakdown . So we'll definitely have a regame if there is a rule like that  | ||
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DaZe
Sweden2111 Posts
everything can happen :D but giving breakdown the win would be totally wrong since he is the one who disconnected, though im not saying giving it to testie would be better. Regame and stfu plz; | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
But since opnion is pretty much evenly split on who held the advantage, if there isnt a regame, Testie should get the win by default since it was Breakdown who exited the game. No way should Breakdown get the win without a regame. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
 ............................................................................................................................................ ................................................................................................................................. I think there are slightly more people claiming that testie had the upper hand...(or not!) Someone who's really bored should count them.... | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
Regame I suppose, but definantly it can't end on Breakdowns favor because he disconnected or dropped, w/e. | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
 if testie waited to long he was contained with no obs to get out and then i do think break would have would have won.if he came out in time he could have broke out killing the hydras and then the whole game change from there.u really cant tell what will happen so i think they should just both be forced to play no more i think i won shit | ||
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Oxygen
Canada3581 Posts
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
On June 06 2005 13:22 Oxygen wrote: Haven't watched the game, dunno, I just think when Testie says he's won a game it's probably true :/ Just from my own experience though. Meh. So you haven't watched replay and think Testie would have won because he said so? Come on. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
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Final Heaven
Japan310 Posts
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On June 06 2005 13:01 1tym wrote: Thanx for reflecting upon both player's minds final heaven .................. ............................................................................................................................................ ................................................................................................................................. I think there are slightly more people claiming that testie had the upper hand...(or not!) Someone who's really bored should count them.... I'm interested in popular opinion of our TLnet members as well. I'm making a poll... | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
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Telemako
Spain1637 Posts
If i were a GG.net admin I will ask for regame, the player wich disagrees loses, if both disagree kick both of them from KOTH and look for another good match. This is a game, it is suposed to be played. If something like this happens, the answer should be a regame. Thats my opnion ^^ | ||
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RiSE
United States3182 Posts
On June 06 2005 13:22 Oxygen wrote: Haven't watched the game, dunno, I just think when Testie says he's won a game it's probably true :/ Just from my own experience though. Meh. Yes, because we can always trust Testie's judgement. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On June 06 2005 11:51 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Of course I would rematch immidiately versus a respected player such as Breakdown (the only people I would not rematch are those who I dislike, but I wouldn't play a showmatch against them in the first place). There is absolutely no way you can claim an absolute win in a game like that. It's completely ridiculous to think the outcome of this game is 100% sure. I never said Breakdown was winning by the way. What I meant to say with my post is that the outcome of this game is unclear and Breakdown definitely had a CHANCE of being victorious. Breakdown got dropped from the game, but was never disconnected (from neither bnet nor his own connection), since I believe him when he says that I don't even consider it a 'disconnect' nor would I personally rule it like one. It's not like it took him 40 minutes to log back to bnet so Testie had to wait. He was there and they could have regamed right away, which Testie refused. I can very well understand Breakdown losing motivation to play another day after that. UNDERSTAND. That does not mean I agree with it (before it gets interpreted wrongfully again). I apologize for taking your original post out of context. Looking back, it's clear that you were not agreeing with breakdowns refusal to regame. And had i been in Testie's position, i would have also rematched without a moments hesitation. So ultimately i agree with everything you've said. I can also understand how breakdown might not want to rematch after Testie's initial refusal. However, i think that with the way the situation currently stands, breakdown needs to suck it up and rematch, or accept a loss. I don't feel breakdown is in a position to refuse anything, as it was his starcraft that booted him from the game. I really hope that they can reconcile and have a really awesome, mannered, 7th game-rematch. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On June 06 2005 12:21 1tym wrote: They refused to play the final game not to end the game as 3-3 status but to obtain a win without any risk of losing from playing another game, regardless of the fact that they both believed that they were in the lead. (Since they would've regamed for sure if they knew they'd take the next match 100%) Well one thing is for sure, it's hella better to be remembered as a winner due to forfeit than as a loser. what a joke. Its by far better to go down with pride than it is to be a chicken-shit winner. The players i have the most respect for are ones who are mannered, not ones who can beat me more than i can beat them. And quite frankly, the only opinions that matter are the opinions of the people i respect. The same people that have that manner, sportsmanship, or whatever you want to name the quality that makes competition worth competing in. Drone is absolutely right. No one is gonna consider either of these guys a winner if they dont finish off the series. This is ridiculous. I wish the higher tier players wouldn't act so childish. | ||
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