On October 31 2011 05:46 Release wrote:
Play on iccup. The first build you should try is The Stove. There is a guide in strategy section.

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So, so, so mean...

lolol.

han_han

United States205 Posts

October 31 2011 08:50 GMT

#42

2v6 BGH comp stomp is where its at. Prepare for AI glitching in order to win. That's how I had my fun slumming in BW.

aimaimaim

Philippines2167 Posts

October 31 2011 08:58 GMT

#43

Oh man .. Proleague needs to start soon.

So that everything bad about BW proleague will be forgotten to the archives and all of us will be happy.

It seriously need to start soon .. November was it? yes .. novermber .. I'M FUCKING GOING CRAZY..

pred470r

Bulgaria3265 Posts

October 31 2011 10:27 GMT

#44

On October 31 2011 17:58 aimaimaim wrote:
Oh man .. Proleague needs to start soon.

So that everything bad about BW proleague will be forgotten to the archives and all of us will be happy.

It seriously need to start soon .. November was it? yes .. novermber .. I'M FUCKING GOING CRAZY..

Yeah November, but I'm not seeing anything in the TL calendar about it, so I'm guessing a starting date hasn't been announced yet?

firehand101

Australia3152 Posts

October 31 2011 10:41 GMT

#45

It will basically be like learning a new game, the mechanics are insanely different and harder, but since your masters you will have less trouble than others getting used to it. You will get crushed for the first few (100) games, but once you understand the units and metagame, you will be able to hold your own no problem

FraCuS

United States1072 Posts

October 31 2011 13:13 GMT

#46

Winning in BW is an amazing feeling.

It's a hard game but it's worth it.

When you lose, it just makes you wanna get better and then you are HOOKED.

RamenStyle

United States1929 Posts

October 31 2011 14:55 GMT

#47

Ok guys, if I understood correctly, he never played BW online, and taking into account that the D+ guy these days would crush a C+ of 5 years ago, which means the base average level has rised a lot, and that he still has to learn the mechanics and basic strats, the first suggestion should be: patience.

It is going to suck for the first weeks, maybe months, but if you keep up and catch up, it will be worth it. But if you are doing it just to take a little rest from SC2, dunno how long it will you get broodwar wise.

Black[CAT]

Malaysia2589 Posts

October 31 2011 14:57 GMT

#48

On October 31 2011 23:55 RamenStyle wrote:
Ok guys, if I understood correctly, he never played BW online, and taking into account that the D+ guy these days would crush a C+ of 5 years ago, which means the base average level has rised a lot, and that he still has to learn the mechanics and basic strats, the first suggestion should be: patience.

It is going to suck for the first weeks, maybe months, but if you keep up and catch up, it will be worth it. But if you are doing it just to take a little rest from SC2, dunno how long it will you get broodwar wise.

What? D+ guys might be better now, but they're still terrible compare to C+ players~

lungo

Denmark276 Posts

October 31 2011 15:24 GMT

#49

if you want broodwar to be fun, you should find a training partner on your level, and just play, look through replays together and just "study" broodwar together.

i had some awsome time doing that!

Person514cs

1004 Posts

November 02 2011 12:57 GMT

#50

I personily find zvp to be a lot of fun because it is a macro fest most of the time. With both side maxed out a lot of the time, you can tincker around with almost every units.

Savant

United States379 Posts

November 02 2011 13:49 GMT

#51

Welcome. No, you won't get crushed. D- players are still quite terrible. If you can handle the pressure from players who build cannons in their base first thing and know the importance of macro you should be fine. I feel the the game's so much more enjoyable than SC2, I hope you feel the same.

aimaimaim

Philippines2167 Posts

November 02 2011 13:58 GMT

#52

OP .. you just have to remember making Drones and hatcheries .. and you'll be fine .. just teach to dark swarm and cracklings the hell out of them.

hellbound

United Kingdom2242 Posts

November 02 2011 14:32 GMT

#53

After a bit of practice and having done a bit of research a SCII master should be able to be able to beat D level players handily.

mdb

Bulgaria4059 Posts

November 02 2011 14:52 GMT

#54

On November 02 2011 23:32 hellbound wrote:
After a bit of practice and having done a bit of research a SCII master should be able to be able to beat D level players handily.

No way. Most probably a SCII masters player (after practice and research) will get destroyed by a regularly playing D player.

fabiano

Brazil4644 Posts

November 02 2011 15:08 GMT

#55

Depends on if the SC2 master has previous BW background. If he does, he may beat D players. If he doesn't, he willl most likely get stomped.

Gyro_SC2

Canada540 Posts

November 02 2011 16:37 GMT

#56

Im a master in sc2, but in BW im D- !!!

FFGenerations

7088 Posts

November 02 2011 17:41 GMT

#57

UMS (use map settings) games in BW are super fun (rpgs and challenges and wotnot) - you dont need to play competitive BW to enjoy it

Nebroth

Poland10 Posts

May 23 2012 09:55 GMT

#58

Hello TL!

Played BW about 10 years ago offline, did the campaign recently. Gold-league scrub with Terran/Zerg in SC2.

I want to start playing Protoss in BW on ICCUP.

Is there a build that can be used in every match-up just to get used to the game flaw/mechanics etc.?

I'm not looking for an optimal opening, just something that does reasonably well in most situations and allows a transition to mid-game.

Big thx in advance!
(don't want to start another "help the newbie" thread, and this one seems to be the most recent)

ImbaTosS

United Kingdom1668 Posts

May 23 2012 10:15 GMT

#59

There are builds which can transfer fairly well between PvT and PvP (though not precisely, you'll figure that out), but PvZ is a 100% different beast! Have a look through Liquipedia, and identify some stuff to try. Your best bet is to work on some safe, dragoon-based openings (such as one/two gate expansion with observers) for PvP/T, and work on the Forge Fast expand aka "bisu build" for PvZ.

If you meet somebody on ICCup who is the same kind of level as you/a bit better, befriend them and practice together! It's rewarding, companionable, and efficient.

GL, see you winning the ISL in 2 years time

icystorage

Jollibee19343 Posts

May 23 2012 10:17 GMT

#60

On May 23 2012 18:55 Nebroth wrote:
Hello TL!

Played BW about 10 years ago offline, did the campaign recently. Gold-league scrub with Terran/Zerg in SC2.

I want to start playing Protoss in BW on ICCUP.

Is there a build that can be used in every match-up just to get used to the game flaw/mechanics etc.?

I'm not looking for an optimal opening, just something that does reasonably well in most situations and allows a transition to mid-game.

Big thx in advance!
(don't want to start another "help the newbie" thread, and this one seems to be the most recent)

PvT - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2_Gateway_Observer
PvZ - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bisu_Build
PvP - idk