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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 20:15:38
October 07 2011 22:49 GMT
#1
New to BW? Well this is the place be. Whether your looking for information about how to get BW, where to play, how to find players of your skill, builds, training advice, etc. this is the place to be.

This guide will eventually contain comprehensive links to: Getting BW, Playing/Using ICCup, Links to updated and accurate liquipedia guides, VOD tutorials, guide to watching BW, Information on New Player/Low Level Clan, coaches, links to recommend awesome games.

Where Do I Get BW?
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• A free version usable ONLY for multiplayer can be downloaded here: http://files.theabyss.ru/sc/starcraft.zip

*Keep in mind that this version is not the complete game. It's HIGHLY recommended you purchase the original game as you miss out on a significant part of the awesome BW experience and can support the company that made this awesome game. And it's cheap, like 15 bucks.

Head here to buy BW in full: http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=110000124

How to Play on ICCup (ICCup made simple)
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Once your on ICCup head over to channel "op teamliquid" to chat with people and play with fellow tlers

• Registration

-Go to iccup.com
-Click the register link at the top right
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-Fill out the information as requested

Installing The Server

- Download the anti-hack launcher: http://www.iccup.com/files/view/Anti-Hack_Launcher.html
- Download and run the reg file: http://www.iccup.com/files/view/iCCup_Reg_file_02.html


• Launching ICCup
Run the anti-hack launcher
On the left side select the StarCraft icon
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Select play game
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• Logging into ICCup
- Go to multiplayer -> Expansion
- Select Battle.net under the “select connection” menu and double click The Abyss (ICCup) under the gateway menu
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- Enter your login credentials from website registration



• Playing Games

o Joining
- Select join from the menu icons at the left
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- Select your desired game type from the drop down menu
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- One on One and Top v Bottom (2v2) are ranked games
- Select a game from the window on the left and double click to join

o Creating
- Note: Port must be forwarded or you will be unable to host
- Select Create from the icons on the left
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- Enter game name, a password (if you don’t want an open game), and select a game type
- Picking a map
- Select browse, navigate to desired map and double click
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- There is an “Up One Level” text you can double click to move up a directory
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- Click OK from the bottom right
- Wait for someone to join then select Start from the bottom right



• Tips and Tricks

- The Lat Trick
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- Allows you to play with someone even if both cannot host
- Both people should use /f a and add each other
- One person joins a UMS game
- The second person then follows him to the same game
- Both players wait for the map download to start
- Player can then leave, create game, and the other player will then be able to join

- Commands
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- /m <name> <msg> – send private message
- /r <msg> - Send private msg to someone who has just messaged you
- /f list – list everyone on your friends list, shows if they are online and what channel/game they are in
- /f add <name> - add a person to friends list
- /f remove <name> - remove someone from friends list

- Clan Commands
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- /c l – list all members of clan, shows if they are online and what game/channel they are in
- /c m – message all clanmates

- Misc Commands
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- /ah <name> - Check if someone has ah; /ah tells you if yours is on
- /stats <name> - Check a persons stats
- /motw – Display current maps of the week
- /dnd – Prevent messages from being displayed

- On Port Forwarding
o If you want to host you will need to forward your ports (usually 6112)


Once your on ICCup head over to channel "op teamliquid" to chat with people and play with fellow tlers


Fixing Windows 7 Color Issues
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If your playing in windows 7 and have issues with the colors bugging out (common bug) that can be fixed fairly simply:

1. Open Notepad
2. Type in (remove the quotation marks)
"taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit"
3. save as StarCraft.bat

This this will start up a command prompt window that will kill explorer.exe, and when you want to start explorer.exe up again you just click on the window and hit any key.

Streaming BW
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Guide located here: Fold's Awesome BW Streaming Guide


New & Low Level Player Clan
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The clan for new players is called sGs and the main thread can be found here: sGs New Player Clan Thread

sGs is meant to be a relaxed group that contains either fellow new players to train with, along with some higher level players that are always willing to offer coaching or advice. Don't hesitate to ask for games or coaching from anyone, members are friendly and more than willing to play with fellow clanmates.

sGs usually congregates in a couple places. One is the channel "op teamliquid", the next is the webpage which can be found here: sGs Website. We also have a skype channel in order to talk about games during/after play, as well as a place to get games with offline clanmates.


Much, much more to follow in the coming days!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9505 Posts
October 07 2011 23:08 GMT
#2
Well, that's a bummer. I've been writing a guide like this last 6 months :/

Well nevermind, yours is pretty good
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 07 2011 23:10 GMT
#3
We can still collaborate, especially if you have areas to flesh out, or stuff written that isn't even yet a part of this guide!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
October 07 2011 23:11 GMT
#4
I think all those markings on pictures should be done more professionally, not just random lines here and there.
JD fanboy. #FPPS
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 08 2011 00:45 GMT
#5
On October 08 2011 08:11 Zera wrote:
I think all those markings on pictures should be done more professionally, not just random lines here and there.


Food for thought.

With my limited photo skills the only way I know to do this would be to use paint or such and use text boxes. Though I think the current method is clear, I'm more than open to a cleaner, more "polished" look.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Censor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States122 Posts
October 08 2011 01:04 GMT
#6
is there anyway to change the size of "Windowed Mode" for ICCup?
Fantasy | Hydra | Flash
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 08 2011 01:24 GMT
#7
On October 08 2011 10:04 Censor wrote:
is there anyway to change the size of "Windowed Mode" for ICCup?

As far as i know BW supports only 1 resolution, 800x600. So no
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Samtastic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States46 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 01:38:58
October 08 2011 01:26 GMT
#8
Edit: Nevermind I was just being dumb
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Censor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States122 Posts
October 08 2011 01:31 GMT
#9
On October 08 2011 10:24 arb wrote:
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On October 08 2011 10:04 Censor wrote:
is there anyway to change the size of "Windowed Mode" for ICCup?

As far as i know BW supports only 1 resolution, 800x600. So no

Alright, thank you very much
Fantasy | Hydra | Flash
invisible.terran
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 02:39:54
October 08 2011 02:39 GMT
#10
On October 08 2011 10:31 Censor wrote:
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On October 08 2011 10:24 arb wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:04 Censor wrote:
is there anyway to change the size of "Windowed Mode" for ICCup?

As far as i know BW supports only 1 resolution, 800x600. So no

Alright, thank you very much

Actually, it's 640x480, and u can try the option "Run in 640x480 screen resolution :D That's way, it's almost like fullscreen
"Until the very very top, in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in, the only problem is most people cant work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they dont have a real passion for." - Idra
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
October 09 2011 05:01 GMT
#11
Kinda cool the initiative is starting to have effects
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Cuiu
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany410 Posts
October 09 2011 06:21 GMT
#12
hmm is the free version legal and why is that free?
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 07:33:57
October 09 2011 07:30 GMT
#13
On October 09 2011 15:21 Cuiu wrote:
hmm is the free version legal and why is that free?

The free version is illegal, and so is the entire private server that ICCUP is hosting. However, for whatever reason, Blizzard doesn't do anything about it and hasn't done anything about it for years now. Maybe Blizzard likes ICCUP and encourages its continuing support for Brood War. Perhaps pursuing legal action to end ICCUP would be too difficult and costly for Blizzard's own good. Whatever the reasons, Blizzard leaves ICCUP alone, despite its illegal distribution of Brood War and its private server, so I don't think you should have anything to worry about if you download it. Keep in mind, though, that the free version does not contain the single player campaign, you cannot play multiplayer on the Battle.net server, and there is no music included.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
October 09 2011 07:50 GMT
#14
On October 08 2011 10:04 Censor wrote:
is there anyway to change the size of "Windowed Mode" for ICCup?

yes, there is. Click the x2 and the window will double in size to 1280x960 from the default 640x480.
Writer
Cuiu
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 08:42:15
October 11 2011 08:38 GMT
#15
On October 09 2011 16:30 beamer159 wrote:
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On October 09 2011 15:21 Cuiu wrote:
hmm is the free version legal and why is that free?

The free version is illegal, and so is the entire private server that ICCUP is hosting. However, for whatever reason, Blizzard doesn't do anything about it and hasn't done anything about it for years now. Maybe Blizzard likes ICCUP and encourages its continuing support for Brood War. Perhaps pursuing legal action to end ICCUP would be too difficult and costly for Blizzard's own good. Whatever the reasons, Blizzard leaves ICCUP alone, despite its illegal distribution of Brood War and its private server, so I don't think you should have anything to worry about if you download it. Keep in mind, though, that the free version does not contain the single player campaign, you cannot play multiplayer on the Battle.net server, and there is no music included.


thx
so ICCUP is the reason why we dont have lan in sc2 :D
i get it now
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
October 15 2011 01:36 GMT
#16
I dled BW, dled antihack and the reg file. When I try to click "play" on the launcher icon it says there is a version mismatch and does not open the game. help
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
October 15 2011 01:40 GMT
#17
On the iccup site there should be a patcher. DL that and install, and you should be good.
http://www.iccup.com/files/view/Starcraft_1.16.1_Patcher.html
boomer hands
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
October 15 2011 01:45 GMT
#18
When I press play and it asks for a file, do I give the location of the zip file?
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 15 2011 01:49 GMT
#19
odd. beginner's guide to sc1 starts with how to steal the game....
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
October 15 2011 01:50 GMT
#20
Yeah it keeps saying version mismatch after I set the location as the zip file of all of the dls.
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
October 15 2011 01:56 GMT
#21
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 15 2011 02:00 GMT
#22
On October 15 2011 10:56 Phyrigian wrote:
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On October 15 2011 10:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
odd. beginner's guide to sc1 starts with how to steal the game....


Not really, considering everyone plays on iccup. Blizzard even mentioned one of their tournaments or something once ages ago and seemed to support it. It seems a bit more odd to me you were trying to give the guide a negative stigma :/

its illegal and tl.net does not allow you to post links to illegal downloads. so, yes, i do find it odd that you would start a beginner's guide by linking to a place to steal the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112137#1

btw, the reason iccup.tv is no longer called iccup for sc2 is because blizzard does not in fact agree with what they did with sc1. i could link you to hundreds of posts where people complain that sc2 doesnt have lan support. any idea why there is no lan support?
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 02:20:09
October 15 2011 02:17 GMT
#23
version mismatch in file "********" :expected "1.16.1.1" but was ""


edit: got it to Open (*) but it now says data file error and tells me to install using setup exe
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
Relickey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States145 Posts
October 15 2011 02:23 GMT
#24
You should also show them them fix for playing with windows 7
Beaches and shores
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 03:10:37
October 15 2011 03:10 GMT
#25
wrong thread
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
October 15 2011 03:16 GMT
#26
On October 15 2011 11:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 10:56 Phyrigian wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
odd. beginner's guide to sc1 starts with how to steal the game....


Not really, considering everyone plays on iccup. Blizzard even mentioned one of their tournaments or something once ages ago and seemed to support it. It seems a bit more odd to me you were trying to give the guide a negative stigma :/

its illegal and tl.net does not allow you to post links to illegal downloads. so, yes, i do find it odd that you would start a beginner's guide by linking to a place to steal the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112137#1

btw, the reason iccup.tv is no longer called iccup for sc2 is because blizzard does not in fact agree with what they did with sc1. i could link you to hundreds of posts where people complain that sc2 doesnt have lan support. any idea why there is no lan support?


You don't know anything about the sc1 scene do you. Almost all servers that were ever competitive (going back to 2001) were 2nd hand servers. or illegal as you call them.

The fact that I think nobody condones to download it illegally. The fact is we want people to buy the battlechest (which is less than $20) we want people to support sc1. We know a lot of people don't want to spend the money. So we link to where you can download the game.

dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 15 2011 03:25 GMT
#27
On October 15 2011 12:16 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 11:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:56 Phyrigian wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
odd. beginner's guide to sc1 starts with how to steal the game....


Not really, considering everyone plays on iccup. Blizzard even mentioned one of their tournaments or something once ages ago and seemed to support it. It seems a bit more odd to me you were trying to give the guide a negative stigma :/

its illegal and tl.net does not allow you to post links to illegal downloads. so, yes, i do find it odd that you would start a beginner's guide by linking to a place to steal the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112137#1

btw, the reason iccup.tv is no longer called iccup for sc2 is because blizzard does not in fact agree with what they did with sc1. i could link you to hundreds of posts where people complain that sc2 doesnt have lan support. any idea why there is no lan support?


You don't know anything about the sc1 scene do you. Almost all servers that were ever competitive (going back to 2001) were 2nd hand servers. or illegal as you call them.

The fact that I think nobody condones to download it illegally. The fact is we want people to buy the battlechest (which is less than $20) we want people to support sc1. We know a lot of people don't want to spend the money. So we link to where you can download the game.


i said pirating the game was illegal, not playing on other servers (which i believe is also against the EULA, but am not sure so I won't comment on).

as for pirating, not only are you violating the law, but you violate tl.net's rules by linking to an illegal downloading site.

so, i am not sure why you are getting so agro about it; and, i have been playing sc1 since 1998 and warcraft 2 before that. so, don't get all uppity about your supposed involvement in sc1.
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 03:39:01
October 15 2011 03:33 GMT
#28
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
October 15 2011 03:40 GMT
#29
On October 15 2011 12:33 Phyrigian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 12:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 15 2011 12:16 masterbreti wrote:
On October 15 2011 11:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:56 Phyrigian wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
odd. beginner's guide to sc1 starts with how to steal the game....


Not really, considering everyone plays on iccup. Blizzard even mentioned one of their tournaments or something once ages ago and seemed to support it. It seems a bit more odd to me you were trying to give the guide a negative stigma :/

its illegal and tl.net does not allow you to post links to illegal downloads. so, yes, i do find it odd that you would start a beginner's guide by linking to a place to steal the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112137#1

btw, the reason iccup.tv is no longer called iccup for sc2 is because blizzard does not in fact agree with what they did with sc1. i could link you to hundreds of posts where people complain that sc2 doesnt have lan support. any idea why there is no lan support?


You don't know anything about the sc1 scene do you. Almost all servers that were ever competitive (going back to 2001) were 2nd hand servers. or illegal as you call them.

The fact that I think nobody condones to download it illegally. The fact is we want people to buy the battlechest (which is less than $20) we want people to support sc1. We know a lot of people don't want to spend the money. So we link to where you can download the game.


i said pirating the game was illegal, not playing on other servers (which i believe is also against the EULA, but am not sure so I won't comment on).

as for pirating, not only are you violating the law, but you violate tl.net's rules by linking to an illegal downloading site.

so, i am not sure why you are getting so agro about it; and, i have been playing sc1 since 1998 and warcraft 2 before that. so, don't get all uppity about your supposed involvement in sc1.


You're coming in here, trying to start an argument, and while you probably have played sc1 since 1998, I doubt your involvement in it has been much bigger (excuse the elitism, but the post count on the brood war forums implies it too). Almost everyone, Korean pros, Foreign pros, TL, etc, everything was on ICCUP. The Brood War scene was based around it. TL condones against pirating, I'm sure they do, and I know you've mentioned that, but not enough to be against ICCUP. every pro who has played on ICCUP has probably used or downloaded it from there before. Blizzard has also supported some small ICCUP league before at the beginning of 2010 if i remember correctly, even if thats just the private server, and I know you're not making claims on that but it is illegal too, it still implies to people to go on their website, and people can still download off it

sorry if its rambly or whatever >.<


Also to add to this. TSL2 and from what I gather TSL1 were both ran on iccup
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 03:51:48
October 15 2011 03:50 GMT
#30
On October 15 2011 12:40 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 12:33 Phyrigian wrote:
On October 15 2011 12:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 15 2011 12:16 masterbreti wrote:
On October 15 2011 11:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:56 Phyrigian wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
odd. beginner's guide to sc1 starts with how to steal the game....


Not really, considering everyone plays on iccup. Blizzard even mentioned one of their tournaments or something once ages ago and seemed to support it. It seems a bit more odd to me you were trying to give the guide a negative stigma :/

its illegal and tl.net does not allow you to post links to illegal downloads. so, yes, i do find it odd that you would start a beginner's guide by linking to a place to steal the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112137#1

btw, the reason iccup.tv is no longer called iccup for sc2 is because blizzard does not in fact agree with what they did with sc1. i could link you to hundreds of posts where people complain that sc2 doesnt have lan support. any idea why there is no lan support?


You don't know anything about the sc1 scene do you. Almost all servers that were ever competitive (going back to 2001) were 2nd hand servers. or illegal as you call them.

The fact that I think nobody condones to download it illegally. The fact is we want people to buy the battlechest (which is less than $20) we want people to support sc1. We know a lot of people don't want to spend the money. So we link to where you can download the game.


i said pirating the game was illegal, not playing on other servers (which i believe is also against the EULA, but am not sure so I won't comment on).

as for pirating, not only are you violating the law, but you violate tl.net's rules by linking to an illegal downloading site.

so, i am not sure why you are getting so agro about it; and, i have been playing sc1 since 1998 and warcraft 2 before that. so, don't get all uppity about your supposed involvement in sc1.


You're coming in here, trying to start an argument, and while you probably have played sc1 since 1998, I doubt your involvement in it has been much bigger (excuse the elitism, but the post count on the brood war forums implies it too). Almost everyone, Korean pros, Foreign pros, TL, etc, everything was on ICCUP. The Brood War scene was based around it. TL condones against pirating, I'm sure they do, and I know you've mentioned that, but not enough to be against ICCUP. every pro who has played on ICCUP has probably used or downloaded it from there before. Blizzard has also supported some small ICCUP league before at the beginning of 2010 if i remember correctly, even if thats just the private server, and I know you're not making claims on that but it is illegal too, it still implies to people to go on their website, and people can still download off it

sorry if its rambly or whatever >.<


Also to add to this. TSL2 and from what I gather TSL1 were both ran on iccup

this will be my last post on the matter. the point of the thread is to bring more people into the sc1 scene (i.e., a beginner's guide); this is also apparent from the new clan the op is making for that purpose. i just found it odd that someone would try to promote sc1 by linking to an illegal version of sc1. because, obviously, if you want to promote the sc1 scene your first order of business is to make sure the developer of the game loses money and has no reason to continue to support the game (e.g., patches).

i am not sure why you guys turned this into a me vs. iccup discussion. i have no qualms with iccup; i only have a problem with the link to a pirated version of the game.

nevertheless, tl.net can decide for itself whether to continue to allow a link to an illegal version of the game. their site, their rules. if they want to allow the link, that's their decision.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 15 2011 04:00 GMT
#31
On October 15 2011 12:50 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 12:40 masterbreti wrote:
On October 15 2011 12:33 Phyrigian wrote:
On October 15 2011 12:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 15 2011 12:16 masterbreti wrote:
On October 15 2011 11:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:56 Phyrigian wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
odd. beginner's guide to sc1 starts with how to steal the game....


Not really, considering everyone plays on iccup. Blizzard even mentioned one of their tournaments or something once ages ago and seemed to support it. It seems a bit more odd to me you were trying to give the guide a negative stigma :/

its illegal and tl.net does not allow you to post links to illegal downloads. so, yes, i do find it odd that you would start a beginner's guide by linking to a place to steal the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112137#1

btw, the reason iccup.tv is no longer called iccup for sc2 is because blizzard does not in fact agree with what they did with sc1. i could link you to hundreds of posts where people complain that sc2 doesnt have lan support. any idea why there is no lan support?


You don't know anything about the sc1 scene do you. Almost all servers that were ever competitive (going back to 2001) were 2nd hand servers. or illegal as you call them.

The fact that I think nobody condones to download it illegally. The fact is we want people to buy the battlechest (which is less than $20) we want people to support sc1. We know a lot of people don't want to spend the money. So we link to where you can download the game.


i said pirating the game was illegal, not playing on other servers (which i believe is also against the EULA, but am not sure so I won't comment on).

as for pirating, not only are you violating the law, but you violate tl.net's rules by linking to an illegal downloading site.

so, i am not sure why you are getting so agro about it; and, i have been playing sc1 since 1998 and warcraft 2 before that. so, don't get all uppity about your supposed involvement in sc1.


You're coming in here, trying to start an argument, and while you probably have played sc1 since 1998, I doubt your involvement in it has been much bigger (excuse the elitism, but the post count on the brood war forums implies it too). Almost everyone, Korean pros, Foreign pros, TL, etc, everything was on ICCUP. The Brood War scene was based around it. TL condones against pirating, I'm sure they do, and I know you've mentioned that, but not enough to be against ICCUP. every pro who has played on ICCUP has probably used or downloaded it from there before. Blizzard has also supported some small ICCUP league before at the beginning of 2010 if i remember correctly, even if thats just the private server, and I know you're not making claims on that but it is illegal too, it still implies to people to go on their website, and people can still download off it

sorry if its rambly or whatever >.<


Also to add to this. TSL2 and from what I gather TSL1 were both ran on iccup

this will be my last post on the matter. the point of the thread is to bring more people into the sc1 scene (i.e., a beginner's guide); this is also apparent from the new clan the op is making for that purpose. i just found it odd that someone would try to promote sc1 by linking to an illegal version of sc1. because, obviously, if you want to promote the sc1 scene your first order of business is to make sure the developer of the game loses money and has no reason to continue to support the game (e.g., patches).

i am not sure why you guys turned this into a me vs. iccup discussion. i have no qualms with iccup; i only have a problem with the link to a pirated version of the game.

nevertheless, tl.net can decide for itself whether to continue to allow a link to an illegal version of the game. their site, their rules. if they want to allow the link, that's their decision.


The developers have already stopped supporting this game. They've moved on to SC2. The last balance patch SC:BW had was 2001. The last patch SC:BW had was early 2009. Unlike the SC2 scene, SC:BW really doesn't need the support of Blizzard to survive. It just needs Blizzard's indifference. This fact doesn't seem to be well known or intuitive in the SC2 community though.

And I agree, it's the TL mods' decisions to allow it or not. The fact that they haven't asked for a change or shut down the thread should signal something to you.
darkness overpowering
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 15 2011 04:08 GMT
#32
You know how to become a better poster? Ignore flame posts. If he finds it odd the link there, who really cares? We are forum users and not forum moderators, leave moderation to the moderators. If you think that something is wrong, press the report button.

It sucks that he came here and derailed the thread really fast, it only harms the purpose of the thread to keep arguing.

C'mon, let's bring more people into BW.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Fallacy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States227 Posts
October 15 2011 05:35 GMT
#33
So, to help get this thread back on track, how does one get into the skype group?
Stand up for what you believe in even if it means standing alone.
W00tbeer1
Profile Joined August 2011
United States33 Posts
October 15 2011 06:11 GMT
#34
Very nice guide. I learned many multiplayer tricks that I have never even seen before.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
October 15 2011 06:16 GMT
#35
On October 15 2011 10:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
odd. beginner's guide to sc1 starts with how to steal the game....

#1... It's not SC1, the original is simply the name. It is Starcraft.
#2 Isn't that how everything goes in life? I'm pretty sure your entire persona is stolen from somewhere.
#3 That makes it not odd.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
October 15 2011 06:18 GMT
#36
On October 15 2011 14:35 Fallacy wrote:
So, to help get this thread back on track, how does one get into the skype group?

I've seen this question pop up a couple of times in the past few weeks, but I don't think anyone has responded to it. I'm also curious about this Skype group. Anyone have any info on it?
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 15 2011 08:00 GMT
#37
I'm no Skype expert but I'm pretty sure you have to be invited into the Skype group via someone in it already... I dont know of another way, off hand.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
October 15 2011 08:02 GMT
#38
LOL @ free multiplayer version. Wasn't that the reason for B.net 2.0?
Relickey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 08:44:47
October 15 2011 08:35 GMT
#39
Still no windows 7 fix? uh, I guess I'll post it in case you decide to edit it in later.

Windows 7 needs a fix explorer.exe fucks with the colors on Brood War, and will make everything discolored and harder to see. Here's how to fix it:

1. Open Notepad
2. Type in (remove the quotation marks)
"taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit"
3. save as StarCraft.bat

This this will start up a command prompt window that will kill explorer.exe, and when you want to start explorer.exe up again you just click on the window and hit any key. There's one floating around on iccup that automatically starts up the iccup launcher, but I use both Minilauncher and Iccup so this is what I use, and supplement it with my Rocketdock, because it doesn't get closed out with explorer.exe
Beaches and shores
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#40
On October 15 2011 14:35 Fallacy wrote:
So, to help get this thread back on track, how does one get into the skype group?


You have to be invited. I don't know how to do it, but I will try to figure it out so I can start invinting people if I can.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
October 15 2011 19:56 GMT
#41
On October 15 2011 17:35 Relickey wrote:
Still no windows 7 fix? uh, I guess I'll post it in case you decide to edit it in later.

Windows 7 needs a fix explorer.exe fucks with the colors on Brood War, and will make everything discolored and harder to see. Here's how to fix it:

1. Open Notepad
2. Type in (remove the quotation marks)
"taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit"
3. save as StarCraft.bat

This this will start up a command prompt window that will kill explorer.exe, and when you want to start explorer.exe up again you just click on the window and hit any key. There's one floating around on iccup that automatically starts up the iccup launcher, but I use both Minilauncher and Iccup so this is what I use, and supplement it with my Rocketdock, because it doesn't get closed out with explorer.exe


http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=36371&parentCategoryId&pageNumber=1&categoryId=2654

It's been out for a while.
Hello World!
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 15 2011 20:14 GMT
#42
On October 16 2011 04:56 craz3d wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 17:35 Relickey wrote:
Still no windows 7 fix? uh, I guess I'll post it in case you decide to edit it in later.

Windows 7 needs a fix explorer.exe fucks with the colors on Brood War, and will make everything discolored and harder to see. Here's how to fix it:

1. Open Notepad
2. Type in (remove the quotation marks)
"taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit"
3. save as StarCraft.bat

This this will start up a command prompt window that will kill explorer.exe, and when you want to start explorer.exe up again you just click on the window and hit any key. There's one floating around on iccup that automatically starts up the iccup launcher, but I use both Minilauncher and Iccup so this is what I use, and supplement it with my Rocketdock, because it doesn't get closed out with explorer.exe


http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=36371&parentCategoryId&pageNumber=1&categoryId=2654

It's been out for a while.


Yeah but it's not in the OP which is supposed to be a beginner's guide...he never said he found out how to fix it via his huge brain or anything.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 20:37:39
October 15 2011 20:36 GMT
#43
@L_Master
In the spoiler for "Where to get BW" can you put something along the lines like "It's suggested that you buy the full game for single player experience and Battle.net" or something along those lines to satisfy those uncomfortable with your link.

Also, will the Beginner Guide to BW have anything to do with strats or is that for another thread?
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 15 2011 21:03 GMT
#44
On October 16 2011 05:36 NationInArms wrote:
@L_Master
In the spoiler for "Where to get BW" can you put something along the lines like "It's suggested that you buy the full game for single player experience and Battle.net" or something along those lines to satisfy those uncomfortable with your link.

Also, will the Beginner Guide to BW have anything to do with strats or is that for another thread?


It should probably just direct people to Liquipedia, no sense in re-writing alot of what's already there.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
October 15 2011 21:25 GMT
#45
On October 16 2011 06:03 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 05:36 NationInArms wrote:
@L_Master
In the spoiler for "Where to get BW" can you put something along the lines like "It's suggested that you buy the full game for single player experience and Battle.net" or something along those lines to satisfy those uncomfortable with your link.

Also, will the Beginner Guide to BW have anything to do with strats or is that for another thread?


It should probably just direct people to Liquipedia, no sense in re-writing alot of what's already there.


Well, yeah I know that, but there are some good threads out there like Recommended Thread (which is stickied) so I was wondering if he was going to do a recommended thread of his own or just link to liquipedia and Recommended Threads(which is a little outdated).
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#46
My apologies for the lack of updates and responses to the thread. It's been a hectic last week (20 credit hours is pretty brutal) with alot of stuff going on.

Thanks for the color fix, it has been added to the OP! I wasn't even thinking about that since the colors only apply to menu/loading screen/etc and aren't whacked out in game.

On October 16 2011 06:03 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 05:36 NationInArms wrote:
@L_Master
In the spoiler for "Where to get BW" can you put something along the lines like "It's suggested that you buy the full game for single player experience and Battle.net" or something along those lines to satisfy those uncomfortable with your link.

Also, will the Beginner Guide to BW have anything to do with strats or is that for another thread?


It should probably just direct people to Liquipedia, no sense in re-writing alot of what's already there.


Yes, the links will be to relevant liquipedia content, VODs, replays, etc. Not only would it make for monstrously long spoiler texts, there would be no reason to just copy paste from liquipedia/elsewhere.


On October 15 2011 12:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 12:16 masterbreti wrote:
On October 15 2011 11:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:56 Phyrigian wrote:
On October 15 2011 10:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
odd. beginner's guide to sc1 starts with how to steal the game....


Not really, considering everyone plays on iccup. Blizzard even mentioned one of their tournaments or something once ages ago and seemed to support it. It seems a bit more odd to me you were trying to give the guide a negative stigma :/

its illegal and tl.net does not allow you to post links to illegal downloads. so, yes, i do find it odd that you would start a beginner's guide by linking to a place to steal the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112137#1

btw, the reason iccup.tv is no longer called iccup for sc2 is because blizzard does not in fact agree with what they did with sc1. i could link you to hundreds of posts where people complain that sc2 doesnt have lan support. any idea why there is no lan support?


You don't know anything about the sc1 scene do you. Almost all servers that were ever competitive (going back to 2001) were 2nd hand servers. or illegal as you call them.

The fact that I think nobody condones to download it illegally. The fact is we want people to buy the battlechest (which is less than $20) we want people to support sc1. We know a lot of people don't want to spend the money. So we link to where you can download the game.


i said pirating the game was illegal, not playing on other servers (which i believe is also against the EULA, but am not sure so I won't comment on).

as for pirating, not only are you violating the law, but you violate tl.net's rules by linking to an illegal downloading site.

so, i am not sure why you are getting so agro about it; and, i have been playing sc1 since 1998 and warcraft 2 before that. so, don't get all uppity about your supposed involvement in sc1.


People were getting hostile because you came in here with what many saw as a hyper aggressive tone. If you had started off with "OP, I'm under the impression the iccup starcraft download was illegal, were you aware of that?" then I don't think anyone would have had a problem.

However, I was under the impression that blizzard was okay with, or at the very least chose to allow, the ICC download. It's important to realize that it isn't the full game, and includes just the bare bones required for online play. Things like the campaign, music, etc is absent.

If TL isn't okay with illegal downloads and the ICC version IS in fact illegal I'm sure the mods will let me know to remove the link.

On October 16 2011 05:36 NationInArms wrote:
@L_Master
In the spoiler for "Where to get BW" can you put something along the lines like "It's suggested that you buy the full game for single player experience and Battle.net" or something along those lines to satisfy those uncomfortable with your link.

Also, will the Beginner Guide to BW have anything to do with strats or is that for another thread?


Yes, that would be good. Will do.


EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Zokkar
Profile Joined December 2010
Israel128 Posts
October 27 2011 01:23 GMT
#47
The download link doesn't work. is there a mirror link for this ?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 27 2011 02:59 GMT
#48
On October 27 2011 10:23 Zokkar wrote:
The download link doesn't work. is there a mirror link for this ?


That's weird. I just tried it and it worked fine for me.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
BruceLee6783
Profile Joined March 2007
United States196 Posts
October 27 2011 17:44 GMT
#49
I have a color issue solution for W7.

Right-click on your Desktop and click, "Screen Resolution".

Leave that window open while running SC, and it should work fine.
You have enemies? Good. It means you stood up for something.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
November 16 2011 08:15 GMT
#50
Is there a way to change username on iccup, or do I have to make a new one?
John 15:13
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
November 16 2011 08:35 GMT
#51
L_master you are being so cool right now! i love all you're doing for the community

Great post!!!
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FYRE
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
New Zealand314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 10:21:07
November 16 2011 10:05 GMT
#52
Edit: nvm fixed
Rambopenguin
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom2 Posts
December 22 2011 00:12 GMT
#53
This is really cool i just started playing brood war and i kind of suck so i need somewhere to learn and practice i'll be joining straight away :D
United we stand,Divided we fall.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
December 22 2011 01:39 GMT
#54
On November 16 2011 17:15 PiPoGevy wrote:
Is there a way to change username on iccup, or do I have to make a new one?

you can just remake a new one, it takes like 5 seconds and you dont need email validation
POGGERS
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#55
IF we are bumping this, I think it's worth mentioning that there is a superior solution to the windows 7 color issues than the killing explorer.exe mentioned in the OP: Use w7ddpatcher.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 22 2011 02:42 GMT
#56
yay! just what i was looking for <3
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 22 2011 02:43 GMT
#57
btw running bw on windows xp with dual screen does show weird colors on one of the screen but bw keeps it<s color just fine
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3128 Posts
December 22 2011 03:15 GMT
#58
guys the easiest way to stop w7 crashes is to simply go to option --> video--> and uncheck the box where it says color cycling.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 22 2011 03:27 GMT
#59
where do i put the maps from the mappack?
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
December 22 2011 03:34 GMT
#60
On December 22 2011 12:27 keyStorm wrote:
where do i put the maps from the mappack?

In your Starcraft folder you'll find another folder called maps, open that up and there should be another folder named download, stick them in that folder.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 04:12:30
December 22 2011 04:10 GMT
#61
theres no download folder, only broodwar, campaing, ladder, oldladder, and the root directory. Also the maps are all .scm and the maps from the pack are .scx..
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 04:15:32
December 22 2011 04:13 GMT
#62
have you been online yet? I think the download folder gets created when you join a game and you don't have the map so it can be downloaded somewhere. Try creating the folder and stick them in there. Should work.

hmm I don't think you need to worry about the scm and scx, the maps will still work.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 22 2011 04:16 GMT
#63
loggin'in
brb
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 04:36:43
December 22 2011 04:26 GMT
#64
so ive put them in starcraft->maps but when i load up bnet through iccup it can<t see the files

they are not recognized


got it

in Broowad-->webmaps :D
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 04:40:59
December 22 2011 04:36 GMT
#65
when you load up iccup, do you see any of the other maps? Did you try creating the download folder inside maps and then sticking the maps inside the download folder?
On mine, it's starcraft>maps>download>iccup map. The maps are inside the iccup map folder and everything works fine. Alternatively you could just join a game with the map you want to play and get it from someone else if all else fails.

I don't really know how else I can help you because it should work pretty easily after you stick them in your map folder

edit: cool, enjoy the iccup experience
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
December 22 2011 04:44 GMT
#66
New players should definitely check out Day[9]'s Podcasts (specifically the one about build orders) and the first 100 or so dailies, which are BW focused. If you don't watch any other daily, watch # 30 for 2 reasons:

1) I'm in it, featured as a D- noob
2) he offers a lot of good insight on what to focus on for anyone under C rank

Also check out Stylish's VODs. He was an A rank Sweedish player, and I believe that he was also Morrow's coach before he became a household name.

Using these 3 links, I was able to get to C- in about 3 months with only standard play.

Best of luck, BW is awesome!!
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keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 22 2011 05:02 GMT
#67
comp Terran owns me D: damn valkyries!!!
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 22 2011 05:10 GMT
#68
On December 22 2011 13:36 Hyde wrote:
when you load up iccup, do you see any of the other maps? Did you try creating the download folder inside maps and then sticking the maps inside the download folder?
On mine, it's starcraft>maps>download>iccup map. The maps are inside the iccup map folder and everything works fine. Alternatively you could just join a game with the map you want to play and get it from someone else if all else fails.

I don't really know how else I can help you because it should work pretty easily after you stick them in your map folder

edit: cool, enjoy the iccup experience


thanks , ill try and beat the computer before venturing on the ladder
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
December 23 2011 15:19 GMT
#69
Oh wow only just found this thread. Been watching BW and hanging out in LR threads for over a year, might have to bite the bullet and get iccup after seeing this, cheers for the basics!
Sucker for nostalgia
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
December 23 2011 17:00 GMT
#70
On December 22 2011 14:02 keyStorm wrote:
comp Terran owns me D: damn valkyries!!!


Easiest way to beat the computer: pick a standard "safe" build and use vs. comp games to practice maxing out. Don't even bother attacking till you hit 200/200: when you do attack you'll just roll the AI. Warning: you will be attacked relatively early (thus the use of a safe build): I think the standard AI timings are 2 control group medarine/12 zealots/random hydraling attacks. When you get a little better, use normal builds and you should still hold the attacks.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
December 23 2011 20:16 GMT
#71
I'm playing Brood War via the ICCUP launcher in windowed mode, 2x the size, and the picture looks quite pixelated. I was wondering if there is a way to apply antialiasing to ICCUP's Brood War window.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 23 2011 21:00 GMT
#72
On December 22 2011 10:45 writer22816 wrote:
IF we are bumping this, I think it's worth mentioning that there is a superior solution to the windows 7 color issues than the killing explorer.exe mentioned in the OP: Use w7ddpatcher.


Haven't seen this one; fill me in and I'll add it to the OP.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
blecap
Profile Joined November 2003
Vietnam7 Posts
December 27 2011 13:48 GMT
#73
hi, i have a legit cd key for sc:bw, but how do i change them if i wants to play them on the official servers?
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
December 30 2011 06:56 GMT
#74
Windows7 Colour Issue guide works perfectly
John 15:13
KivTM
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia90 Posts
December 30 2011 07:54 GMT
#75
apart from the colour issues on windows 7, has anybody else had the problem where your computer just randomly freezes while in game? The music still plays in the background but no keys work (ie can't access task manager, alt tab etc). The only way to get out is a hard reset. I heard that the taskbar kill also fixes this issue but can someone confirm this? Thanks!
toastt
Profile Joined March 2011
United States23 Posts
December 30 2011 08:03 GMT
#76
Besides the whole color issue with windows 7 I have an issue that the game just freezes and I can't do anything about it. Can anyone PM me about how to fix this? Also, I need some bw friends to play with! I'm getting back into brood war, I don't know any builds or anything. Help me out? xD Thanks,

toast.
KivTM
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia90 Posts
December 31 2011 04:53 GMT
#77
We have the same issue toast. Assuming we fix it, I'll be happy to practice with you XD! I'm noob as well though
Payson
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States394 Posts
December 31 2011 06:27 GMT
#78
I can't even log into the game. Get to the log in screen, asks for me to create an account or type in existing information. Nothing is working........

Every name is apparently taken and my iCCup account information doesn't work either.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 06:49:24
December 31 2011 06:47 GMT
#79
On December 30 2011 16:54 KivTM wrote:
apart from the colour issues on windows 7, has anybody else had the problem where your computer just randomly freezes while in game? The music still plays in the background but no keys work (ie can't access task manager, alt tab etc). The only way to get out is a hard reset. I heard that the taskbar kill also fixes this issue but can someone confirm this? Thanks!


Yea this has happened to me and when using this the taskbar fix does seem to take care of it. Oddly, it never happens to me playing on ICC, only when I have played offline or on something like GR/hamachi has this occured.


On December 31 2011 15:27 Payson wrote:
I can't even log into the game. Get to the log in screen, asks for me to create an account or type in existing information. Nothing is working........

Every name is apparently taken and my iCCup account information doesn't work either.


You have to register an account first at the ICCup website. You can't try to create an account from with the BW client itself. If you already did that...not sure what to say. Maybe try making a new ICC account from the ICCup webpage.
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-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
January 03 2012 07:29 GMT
#80
Found BW on sale today.
Time to play the campaign then get destroyed. ^^
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AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
January 27 2012 14:27 GMT
#81
Should be stickied
John 15:13
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
January 27 2012 14:44 GMT
#82
On October 08 2011 08:08 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Well, that's a bummer. I've been writing a guide like this last 6 months :/
If it took you 6 months to write that much, then you'd probably never have finished it, anyway.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9505 Posts
January 27 2012 15:09 GMT
#83
On January 27 2012 23:44 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 08:08 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Well, that's a bummer. I've been writing a guide like this last 6 months :/

If it took you 6 months to write that much, then you'd probably never have finished it, anyway.

Fair enough.
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Moon_Unit
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2 Posts
January 29 2012 10:09 GMT
#84
I have a noob question, is it possible to change hotkeys in starcaft 1? i find things like m for marine really inconvenient.
hurp and derp
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
January 29 2012 14:25 GMT
#85
No music in this SC download?! Is there unit sounds though??
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
January 29 2012 14:31 GMT
#86
On January 29 2012 19:09 Moon_Unit wrote:
I have a noob question, is it possible to change hotkeys in starcaft 1? i find things like m for marine really inconvenient.

There are 3rd party programmes for it, but it's usually considered cheating. And yeah, I find o for overlord and m for muta pretty bad
On January 29 2012 23:25 Azera wrote:
No music in this SC download?! Is there unit sounds though??

Yes. Iccup version lacks the music and the campaign, and that's all as far as I know.
No unit sounds would make it pretty hard to play imho/
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shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
January 29 2012 18:30 GMT
#87
Thanks a tonne for this guide! Just played a bit and got my ass handed to me, but it was great fun. Definitely going to play some more!
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
macaronij
Profile Joined December 2010
Argentina67 Posts
January 30 2012 15:10 GMT
#88
Hi, i want to start playing, i play sc2 but want to try a little of BW, so i bougth the game in blizzard store
where can i find a guide to begin whit zerg? i mean something veeeeery basic whit build order i can practice vs any race
Caloooomi
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland188 Posts
January 31 2012 15:37 GMT
#89
On January 31 2012 00:10 macaronij wrote:
Hi, i want to start playing, i play sc2 but want to try a little of BW, so i bougth the game in blizzard store
where can i find a guide to begin whit zerg? i mean something veeeeery basic whit build order i can practice vs any race


I always tried doing 3 hatch muta when I was playing bw, although at a low level:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/3_Hatch_Muta_(vs._Terran)
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Linz
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium151 Posts
February 01 2012 12:08 GMT
#90
Don't know if this is the best place to ask, but I did everything you said in the OP, and for some reason I cannot keybind control groups ingame. Anyone knows how to fix this? I'm using a Logitech G15 keyboard (Azerty) if that is relevant.

Thanks in advance.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 12:22:34
February 01 2012 12:15 GMT
#91
On February 01 2012 21:08 Linz wrote:
Don't know if this is the best place to ask, but I did everything you said in the OP, and for some reason I cannot keybind control groups ingame. Anyone knows how to fix this? I'm using a Logitech G15 keyboard (Azerty) if that is relevant.

Thanks in advance.

As it's an azerty keyboard, numbers are up, you have to play with caps lock. Annoying stuff.
On January 31 2012 00:10 macaronij wrote:
Hi, i want to start playing, i play sc2 but want to try a little of BW, so i bougth the game in blizzard store
where can i find a guide to begin whit zerg? i mean something veeeeery basic whit build order i can practice vs any race

To be more precise than the answer above me, I'm sorry but there's no opening that will cut it in all 3 match-ups, this is especially true as zerg. My advice would be to pick one (zvp for instance, protoss are pretty common on iccup, and it's the more macro oriented I guess) and to train only this one at the beginning. In this case read Liquipedia and use 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra I guess, it's a bit outdated but it will give you a good feel for the match-up.
Well, good luck adpating to the numerous one base build you'll encounter at D level though.
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DieterEilts
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany283 Posts
February 12 2012 22:45 GMT
#92
not entirely sure if this belongs here, but i have a big problem. 3weeks ago i started playing bw again, this time with iccup launcher and stuff and i play windowed mode 2x but in that mode it lags like hell. my pc can play sc2 without any lag so i think i should be able to play broodwar without problems.
when i play on full-widescreen there is no problem at all but its not cool to play in widescreen. i have 2.6ghz 4gb ram 1gb graphics.

maybe and hopefully there is an easy solution to it
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1689 Posts
February 12 2012 23:19 GMT
#93
On February 13 2012 07:45 DieterEilts wrote:
not entirely sure if this belongs here, but i have a big problem. 3weeks ago i started playing bw again, this time with iccup launcher and stuff and i play windowed mode 2x but in that mode it lags like hell. my pc can play sc2 without any lag so i think i should be able to play broodwar without problems.
when i play on full-widescreen there is no problem at all but its not cool to play in widescreen. i have 2.6ghz 4gb ram 1gb graphics.

maybe and hopefully there is an easy solution to it

That's caused 100% by the Wmode program. As far as I know, there is no solution. I simply got used to playing like that.
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L3o
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
February 12 2012 23:34 GMT
#94
On February 13 2012 07:45 DieterEilts wrote:
not entirely sure if this belongs here, but i have a big problem. 3weeks ago i started playing bw again, this time with iccup launcher and stuff and i play windowed mode 2x but in that mode it lags like hell. my pc can play sc2 without any lag so i think i should be able to play broodwar without problems.
when i play on full-widescreen there is no problem at all but its not cool to play in widescreen. i have 2.6ghz 4gb ram 1gb graphics.

maybe and hopefully there is an easy solution to it


Basically what I did was turn on fixed aspect ratio. That way I play in full screen (on my widescreen monitor) in a 4:3 aspect ratio..
Devote each day to the object then in time and every evening will find something done.
DieterEilts
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany283 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 02:09:51
February 13 2012 02:06 GMT
#95
well thats sad to here. windowed 2x mode would be awesome. how do i turn on fixed aspect ratio?

:sorry for being such a noob
aka600
Profile Joined April 2010
United States12 Posts
February 13 2012 02:26 GMT
#96
My question is, do a good amount of people still play BW? I havent played it in years, so if i begin to play am i going to get stomped on right from the beginning?
L3o
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 03:05:53
February 13 2012 03:04 GMT
#97
On February 13 2012 11:06 DieterEilts wrote:
well thats sad to here. windowed 2x mode would be awesome. how do i turn on fixed aspect ratio?

:sorry for being such a noob


It's under your video card settings

Under mine Nvidia Control Panel it's under Adjust desktop size and position. It might be different for different video cards... but a quick google search should have it.

On February 13 2012 11:26 aka600 wrote:
My question is, do a good amount of people still play BW? I havent played it in years, so if i begin to play am i going to get stomped on right from the beginning?


Simple answer: yes.
There are plenty of people that still play and you will get rofl-stomped for a little while
I just started back again about two months ago, went about 80 games before i felt like i was actually winning games (as opposed to my opponent losing them, i.e. one base cheese that fails)
Devote each day to the object then in time and every evening will find something done.
Tomba
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 05:58:11
February 13 2012 05:53 GMT
#98
How do you deal with mouse sensitivity in bw? When i enter broodwar and start playing the sensitivity is so high cos the resolution is so low. It makes it REALLY hard to play both BW and other games.

I play with acceleration off and 6/11 in windows and 1200 dpi on mouse. Do you just change the dpi and get a different sensitivity or is there some kinda chart that shows how much 1200 dpi is equally in bw resolution or something?

It's okay if you play in windowmode but everything is so small then...
taitanik
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia231 Posts
February 13 2012 06:07 GMT
#99
too much stuff to fix on windows 7 and resolution sucks , i guess old monitors were better for it ;(
"the game is over only when you make it over"
klibrt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States533 Posts
February 13 2012 06:18 GMT
#100
I'm not sure if this has been asked but... I use a Windows 7 HP laptop and... when I run BW... the loading screen comes up as grainy black/white/grey and then a black screen comes up. I can hear the buttons selecting, like if I press M for multiplayer, it goes there, but the screen stays black.... how do I fix this? I can't play BW...
L3o
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
February 14 2012 03:59 GMT
#101
On February 13 2012 14:53 Tomba wrote:
How do you deal with mouse sensitivity in bw? When i enter broodwar and start playing the sensitivity is so high cos the resolution is so low. It makes it REALLY hard to play both BW and other games.

I play with acceleration off and 6/11 in windows and 1200 dpi on mouse. Do you just change the dpi and get a different sensitivity or is there some kinda chart that shows how much 1200 dpi is equally in bw resolution or something?

It's okay if you play in windowmode but everything is so small then...


In game, basically just start a random custom game vs a comp and you'll see mouse sens under options, play around to your heart's content.

On February 13 2012 15:18 klibrt wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been asked but... I use a Windows 7 HP laptop and... when I run BW... the loading screen comes up as grainy black/white/grey and then a black screen comes up. I can hear the buttons selecting, like if I press M for multiplayer, it goes there, but the screen stays black.... how do I fix this? I can't play BW...


Give a quick google or TL search, windows 7 is known to have color issues with bw.
Devote each day to the object then in time and every evening will find something done.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 14 2012 04:08 GMT
#102
On February 14 2012 12:59 L3o wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 14:53 Tomba wrote:
How do you deal with mouse sensitivity in bw? When i enter broodwar and start playing the sensitivity is so high cos the resolution is so low. It makes it REALLY hard to play both BW and other games.

I play with acceleration off and 6/11 in windows and 1200 dpi on mouse. Do you just change the dpi and get a different sensitivity or is there some kinda chart that shows how much 1200 dpi is equally in bw resolution or something?

It's okay if you play in windowmode but everything is so small then...


In game, basically just start a random custom game vs a comp and you'll see mouse sens under options, play around to your heart's content.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 15:18 klibrt wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been asked but... I use a Windows 7 HP laptop and... when I run BW... the loading screen comes up as grainy black/white/grey and then a black screen comes up. I can hear the buttons selecting, like if I press M for multiplayer, it goes there, but the screen stays black.... how do I fix this? I can't play BW...


Give a quick google or TL search, windows 7 is known to have color issues with bw.


i think he means cursor sensitivity. to change cursor sensitivity, use a chaos launcher you can alt tab in and out while adjusting to get your perfect cursor speed. google chaos launcher
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
February 14 2012 15:01 GMT
#103
Actually, the iCCup launcher has the chaos plugin. Just open the settings and change your mouse sensitivity there - it changes your sensitivity just in BW, not in windows. For screen scroll sensitivity (mouse/keyboard), you can change it in the in game menu.

StarCraft tab in iCCup launcher -> Turn on Chaos Plugin and Latency Changer -> Settings... next to Chaos plugin -> Mouse tab -> Use different mousespeed in StarCraft -> find the sensitivity that you're ok with, usually it's better to have lower than too high sensitivity
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aka600
Profile Joined April 2010
United States12 Posts
February 14 2012 16:22 GMT
#104
Ok so I have downloaded this client and played about 10 games. Now I ask myself why even bother? I've played this game many many years ago and was halfway decent at it too. I now play SC2. My problem is the ladder system. In sc2 it matches you up with someone your skill level or close to it. On BW although there might not be so many returning new players most of the players are 10 times better than you, so you will get stomped over and over again. Maybe If I buy the full version atleast i can switch around to the different servers and maybe find some new returning players? I love BW as I did those years ago, but must I really spend X amount of hours practicing/watching replays to even win 1 measly game?
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9505 Posts
February 14 2012 16:34 GMT
#105
On February 15 2012 01:22 aka600 wrote:
Ok so I have downloaded this client and played about 10 games. Now I ask myself why even bother? I've played this game many many years ago and was halfway decent at it too. I now play SC2. My problem is the ladder system. In sc2 it matches you up with someone your skill level or close to it. On BW although there might not be so many returning new players most of the players are 10 times better than you, so you will get stomped over and over again. Maybe If I buy the full version atleast i can switch around to the different servers and maybe find some new returning players? I love BW as I did those years ago, but must I really spend X amount of hours practicing/watching replays to even win 1 measly game?

That's a really good question. My suggestion is to play some fun/casual maps instead of laddering. I played BW for about 4 years online before playing a single ladder game and I had loads of fun. And to be honest, I still after all this time don't really have fun laddering. Maybe try some team games.
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Pelopidas
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada225 Posts
February 14 2012 17:13 GMT
#106
On February 13 2012 15:18 klibrt wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been asked but... I use a Windows 7 HP laptop and... when I run BW... the loading screen comes up as grainy black/white/grey and then a black screen comes up. I can hear the buttons selecting, like if I press M for multiplayer, it goes there, but the screen stays black.... how do I fix this? I can't play BW...


If you have an ATI graphics card try switching to the power saving card in power express. You could also try windowed mode.
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cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
February 14 2012 18:07 GMT
#107
Can anyone tell me the korean equivalent to team liquid please?
Tomba
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 17:33:24
February 20 2012 17:32 GMT
#108
On February 14 2012 13:08 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 12:59 L3o wrote:
On February 13 2012 14:53 Tomba wrote:
How do you deal with mouse sensitivity in bw? When i enter broodwar and start playing the sensitivity is so high cos the resolution is so low. It makes it REALLY hard to play both BW and other games.

I play with acceleration off and 6/11 in windows and 1200 dpi on mouse. Do you just change the dpi and get a different sensitivity or is there some kinda chart that shows how much 1200 dpi is equally in bw resolution or something?

It's okay if you play in windowmode but everything is so small then...


In game, basically just start a random custom game vs a comp and you'll see mouse sens under options, play around to your heart's content.

On February 13 2012 15:18 klibrt wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been asked but... I use a Windows 7 HP laptop and... when I run BW... the loading screen comes up as grainy black/white/grey and then a black screen comes up. I can hear the buttons selecting, like if I press M for multiplayer, it goes there, but the screen stays black.... how do I fix this? I can't play BW...


Give a quick google or TL search, windows 7 is known to have color issues with bw.


i think he means cursor sensitivity. to change cursor sensitivity, use a chaos launcher you can alt tab in and out while adjusting to get your perfect cursor speed. google chaos launcher


Thanks for the tip, already had chaos launcher, never seen that option tho! worked very well.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 20 2012 18:38 GMT
#109
On February 15 2012 03:07 cydial wrote:
Can anyone tell me the korean equivalent to team liquid please?


i think it is playxp.com and fomos.kr

rupp_lekkens
Profile Joined February 2012
Chile64 Posts
February 20 2012 18:47 GMT
#110
Nice guide, very well explained, but... is there a way to play sc:bw with the original music? i downloaded the game from iccup and doesn't have it, please help

ps: sorry about my english
please correct me if I'm wrong in my english
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
February 23 2012 18:41 GMT
#111
On February 21 2012 03:47 rupp_lekkens wrote:
Nice guide, very well explained, but... is there a way to play sc:bw with the original music? i downloaded the game from iccup and doesn't have it, please help

ps: sorry about my english


You can always... find... the music and play it in a media player. Or use youtube playlists. Or buy the OST! (not sure if there is one or not).

Also, getting a legitimate version will have music playing normally.
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
February 23 2012 20:23 GMT
#112
Is there a posibility to play on ICCup while using the .bat file to fix the color issues ? because in the iccup launcher you can only choose the .exe file to launch the game.
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mmschocolate
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil20 Posts
February 24 2012 00:03 GMT
#113
There is another fix for the color issue

Run http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/starcraft/scbw116_x86.reg if you're on 32-bit Windows; http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/starcraft/scbw116_x64.reg if you're on 64-bit Wndows
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9505 Posts
February 24 2012 00:31 GMT
#114
On February 24 2012 09:03 mmschocolate wrote:
There is another fix for the color issue

Run http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/starcraft/scbw116_x86.reg if you're on 32-bit Windows; http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/starcraft/scbw116_x64.reg if you're on 64-bit Wndows

I don't think that works for localized versions of Windows and seeing that guy is from Germany, I'm pretty sure he has a German version of Windows so I doubt it'll work. You can still try though.
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SonOfBoxer
Profile Joined December 2011
Korea (South)62 Posts
February 24 2012 00:36 GMT
#115
Wow, thank Tassadar for this post O_o' I can't stand SC2 anymore, and wanted to give BW a new try, but I was having some serious trouble with W7. Thank you VERY MUCH ♥
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SockArms
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States591 Posts
February 24 2012 00:38 GMT
#116
hmmm iccup's website seems to be down for me and yes I checked on isitup all I wanted is the antihack and launcher stuff so I can play Q_Q
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Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 06:15:11
February 25 2012 01:32 GMT
#117
On February 24 2012 09:03 mmschocolate wrote:
There is another fix for the color issue

Run http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/starcraft/scbw116_x86.reg if you're on 32-bit Windows; http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/starcraft/scbw116_x64.reg if you're on 64-bit Wndows

I remember these files fixing the color issues for me, but they seem to be down now. Does anyone have a copy of the 64-bit file I could get ahold of?

EDIT: The problem seems to be Firefox. Clicking on the links in Internet Explorer lets me download the files. I wonder what's wrong with Firefox...
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
February 25 2012 02:00 GMT
#118
On February 24 2012 09:38 JPoPP wrote:
hmmm iccup's website seems to be down for me and yes I checked on isitup all I wanted is the antihack and launcher stuff so I can play Q_Q


Iccup site is routinely down at that time for me very day.
Try another time should be okay.
BW forever!
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
February 25 2012 02:15 GMT
#119
Neat guide, thanks
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Iri
Profile Joined January 2010
150 Posts
February 26 2012 18:25 GMT
#120
I'm trying to watch Stylish's FPVoDs and the audio is so broken up that I can't actually listen to them. Is this an issue with the VoDs, or just me?
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Tikan
Profile Joined April 2011
France42 Posts
February 26 2012 19:10 GMT
#121
Hum sorry if it doesnt belong here but I didnt want to open a new topic for this ,
so I'm now on iccup with the version of bw you can find on op but it seems like I cant create a group, tried ctrl-1 / alt-ctrl-1 / alt-1 / maj-1 / ect.. (and with different keys) but I couldnt have a group done.
Did someone experience the same thing and/or someone have a solution to this? couldnt find keybindings listing ingame.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
February 26 2012 19:19 GMT
#122
On February 27 2012 04:10 Tikan wrote:
Hum sorry if it doesnt belong here but I didnt want to open a new topic for this ,
so I'm now on iccup with the version of bw you can find on op but it seems like I cant create a group, tried ctrl-1 / alt-ctrl-1 / alt-1 / maj-1 / ect.. (and with different keys) but I couldnt have a group done.
Did someone experience the same thing and/or someone have a solution to this? couldnt find keybindings listing ingame.

If you come from sc2 without ever playing BW: You can't see your control groups in BW and you can't change hotkeys.

I just wanted to say that so you don't think you can't make control groups just because they doesn't pop up on the UI like in sc2. ^^
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goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
February 26 2012 19:34 GMT
#123
On February 27 2012 04:10 Tikan wrote:
Hum sorry if it doesnt belong here but I didnt want to open a new topic for this ,
so I'm now on iccup with the version of bw you can find on op but it seems like I cant create a group, tried ctrl-1 / alt-ctrl-1 / alt-1 / maj-1 / ect.. (and with different keys) but I couldnt have a group done.
Did someone experience the same thing and/or someone have a solution to this? couldnt find keybindings listing ingame.


You make control groups the same way that you do in SC2, it just doesn't show up on the UI. You recall them by using the number, just like SC2. Shift+number will add units to an existing control group like SC2, but obviously up to the unit cap that control groups have.

Hope this helps!
Tikan
Profile Joined April 2011
France42 Posts
February 26 2012 19:39 GMT
#124
Well no I dont rly care it doesnt show, but it doesnt work ;(
And god its hard getting started to bw with this handicap!
IrOnKaL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 19:47:22
February 26 2012 19:46 GMT
#125
It's kind of depressing for me as a fairly new bw player to log on to iccup D and only see 1-2 one on ones going on. Is that just how it is now? Are there more people C- and higher?



EDIT: Also see lots of "...only Z" or "...only P" which makes me sad as a Terran player ;;
Fealthas
Profile Joined May 2011
607 Posts
February 26 2012 20:30 GMT
#126
On February 27 2012 04:46 IrOnKaL wrote:
It's kind of depressing for me as a fairly new bw player to log on to iccup D and only see 1-2 one on ones going on. Is that just how it is now? Are there more people C- and higher?



EDIT: Also see lots of "...only Z" or "...only P" which makes me sad as a Terran player ;;

I find that asking in chat helps. Also just hosting a game with a name like D/D+ fills up fast.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
February 26 2012 23:25 GMT
#127
On February 27 2012 04:39 Tikan wrote:
Well no I dont rly care it doesnt show, but it doesnt work ;(
And god its hard getting started to bw with this handicap!

Being French you probably have an azerty keyboard. Play with caps lock. Yeah annoying, I know.
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Tikan
Profile Joined April 2011
France42 Posts
February 27 2012 00:00 GMT
#128
Oh ok.
Thanks!
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 07:24:29
February 28 2012 07:12 GMT
#129
I'm having a problem with Brood War's aspect ratio. I play with an Acer V223W widescreen moniter and an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570, and the game is stretched to a widescreen resolution instead of staying 4:3 with bars on the sides. I've read others' suggestions on how to rectify this problem, but nothing has helped me yet. Here's my current NVIDIA control panel setup:

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Any suggestions for getting my Brood War game to play with a 4:3 aspect ratio?

I ought to mention that ICCUP's launcher's windowed mode does work for me, so I have a backup if I can't get this working. It's just nicer to be able to play with a full screen instead of in a window, just a personal preference of mine.

EDIT: I thought I'd mention this. I took a screenshot of the ingame menu when it appeared to be stretched. However, this screenshot turned out to be the correct resolution of 640 X 480, not a widescreen resolution like I was expecting. Hopefully this will help point to the problem in my setup. Here's the screenshot in case it helps:

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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9505 Posts
February 28 2012 12:12 GMT
#130
Did you try "No scaling" option?
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ppdealer
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada163 Posts
February 28 2012 12:41 GMT
#131
Try setting "Perform scaling on" to "GPU", also try setting "Override the scaling mode set by games and programs".
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 19:00:49
February 28 2012 19:00 GMT
#132
I found my problem. Changing "Perform scaling on" to "GPU" corrected my aspect ratio. However, I should mention that I tried as many combinations of these options as possible yesterday with no luck. The trick that fixed this problem for me was to restart my computer. So if anyone else is having an issue similar to mine, try changing your control panel settings to something similar to this:

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And if this doesn't change anything, try restarting your computer.
Ricoo
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden6 Posts
March 02 2012 13:37 GMT
#133
When I press play game on the ICCup launcher it asks me for a file, what do i do?
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
March 04 2012 14:16 GMT
#134
path it to youre file where you normal start youre bw with
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
March 04 2012 20:00 GMT
#135
Just decided to switch from SC2 to BW after watching it for so long, thank you for this awesome guide!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Sleet
Profile Joined January 2011
United States139 Posts
March 06 2012 13:58 GMT
#136
Can someone help with the color issues? Notepad doesn't do anything to the Starcraft file for me, is it supposed to be in command prompt? I tried that too and couldn't get it to work...
@SLeetscgames
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
March 07 2012 01:30 GMT
#137
I've never played BW 1v1, but I'm gearing up to dabble in it a bit. Is ICCUP still the place to be to find 1v1 games? I think I remember reading somewhere that ICCUP was kind of a ghost town (next to impossible for 100% noobs like me to find a game) and that most people were using something else.

Should I start with ICCUP or something else?

Thanks!
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
March 07 2012 01:34 GMT
#138
Still lots of people on Iccup! Go to op teamliquid
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
March 07 2012 01:45 GMT
#139
On March 07 2012 10:34 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Still lots of people on Iccup! Go to op teamliquid


hmm; alright then. I'll give it a go. Thanks.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
March 07 2012 02:11 GMT
#140
I downloaded the folder, and when I go to unzip using winzip is says "unexpected end of archive" any tips?
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 02:19:36
March 07 2012 02:16 GMT
#141
I'm having a problem getting BW to work via the ICCUP launcher. I get the following message when I select "Play Starcraft:Broodwar":

Version Mismatch in file "Starcraft.exe" : expected 1.16.1.1 but was 1.15.2.1


Seems like I need to update to the correct version, but I'm not sure where or how to do that. Any help is appreciated <3

Edit: Nevermind; found it... x.x
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 07 2012 02:28 GMT
#142
Basic Guide Addition Itinerary;


  • March 10th - PvT Guide
  • March 24th - ZvP Guide
  • April 7th - TvP Guide
  • April 21st - PvP Guide
  • May 5th - ZvZ Guide
  • May 19th - TvZ Guide
  • May 26nd - PvZ Guide
  • June 2nd - ZvT Guide
  • June 9th - TvT Guide


These dates are rough goals. I really hope to be faster than this...but it's also possible life will get in the way and it will be slower. The general format of the guide will be to lay out a relatively safe, standard build in each MU; cover common early/mid game builds/playstyles the opponent can do and offer some responses to each, and give a very, very general layout of how to consider playing the lategame.

The purpose of this is to give beginning players a decent build in which to begin learning the game, and enough of an understanding to know why they died/how to defend common opponent attacks and timings.

Hopefully included with each will be some short VOD's/descriptions of how to micro and control in certain important situations.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
March 07 2012 03:22 GMT
#143
I'm trying to join games, but it keeps telling me "unable to join." I downloaded ICCUP Maps v2.1, but its still just showing in winzip. Do I need to do something special with them?

I'm sorry for being so needy, but I don't know shit about how this is all supposed to work. I followed the guide in the OP, but clicking "join game" isn't working T.T;;;;;
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
March 07 2012 03:26 GMT
#144
you updated your version to 1.61? If you're unable to join, make sure your map pack is unzipped and in your starcraft maps folder. You should be able to simply join up on games though and if you didn't have the map you'd be able to dl it. It sounds like there might be another error going on.
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Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
March 07 2012 03:33 GMT
#145
Can't seem to find a starcraft maps folder... looking desperately.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
March 07 2012 03:35 GMT
#146
Starcraft Folder>Maps

Normally starcraft installs into program files starcraft.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 03:51:23
March 07 2012 03:40 GMT
#147
ok, I think I got it. I was finally able to join a game but then the guy booted me. Not sure why, It was titled "D" and my rank says "D" so... wth

Edit: ok, so i am actually in a game right this second, but my screen is tiny window... how do i fix this lol ; ; may have to just leave out.

edit 2: well, first game was terribad lol. gg'd out when he sent some vultures (?) and killed my marines. Then I spent 5 minutes trying to figure out how to surrender lol ; ; ;
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 04:12:23
March 07 2012 04:10 GMT
#148
Might have booted you for a number of reasons...perhaps he was hosting a game for someone else, your lag might have been high, he might have seen your stats as 0-0-0 and thought you were a noob, perhaps your anti-hack was not on etc.

But before you hit the ladder....try to play against a computer and try to beat it, perhaps utilizing a build from liquidpedia. Will lead a better game experience for you and otherrs...and you wont be giving free ladder points :D

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Terran_Strategy

The bw liquipedia is amazing to learn the game, pretty much all you need.

The window being small......I assume your using the launcher to start the game, in that make sure that windowd mode is not on.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
March 07 2012 05:02 GMT
#149
hey thanks. I figured out the windowed mode and was able to play a few more games. I'm so blown away by how different it is compared to SC2. Its insane how dummy proof they made it compared to BW. I find myself struggling just to get my scvs mining and making units lol ; ;
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Ichimaruu
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom24 Posts
March 07 2012 16:28 GMT
#150
iccup.com seems to be down for me, sometimes it runs but only very slowly, anyone else getting that?
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
March 07 2012 16:43 GMT
#151
Nope, it's working....just logged in.
Ichimaruu
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom24 Posts
March 07 2012 16:46 GMT
#152
weird, I'm trying to sign up but the connection just hangs for a while then a screen with no pictures loads up.
Gyro_SC2
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada540 Posts
March 07 2012 20:48 GMT
#153
Hi, I'm a master in sc2 and i started playing scbw. Surprisingly, Im very good at bw and Im sure i could be D+ easily.

The only reason why I started to hate scbw is because of the latency bug ... And I dont know how to open my port 6112. Can you make a guide of how to remove this bug.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 20:55:56
March 07 2012 20:51 GMT
#154
Please don't hate on Gyro.
I meant the others should not hate on you.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Gyro_SC2
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada540 Posts
March 07 2012 20:53 GMT
#155
But this bug is a pain in the a..
Gogleion
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States534 Posts
March 07 2012 21:01 GMT
#156
On March 08 2012 05:48 Gyro_SC2 wrote:
Hi, I'm a master in sc2 and i started playing scbw. Surprisingly, Im very good at bw and Im sure i could be D+ easily.

The only reason why I started to hate scbw is because of the latency bug ... And I dont know how to open my port 6112. Can you make a guide of how to remove this bug.

If you're on a home network and have access to your router, just google "How to portforward on " + whatever router you're using.

If you're using a work or school network, then you won't be able to get it fixed from what I understand.
EffOrt. That is all.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 08 2012 00:47 GMT
#157
On March 08 2012 06:01 Gogleion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 05:48 Gyro_SC2 wrote:
Hi, I'm a master in sc2 and i started playing scbw. Surprisingly, Im very good at bw and Im sure i could be D+ easily.

The only reason why I started to hate scbw is because of the latency bug ... And I dont know how to open my port 6112. Can you make a guide of how to remove this bug.

If you're on a home network and have access to your router, just google "How to portforward on " + whatever router you're using.

If you're using a work or school network, then you won't be able to get it fixed from what I understand.


This is true; though some universities will do it for you if you explain to them the issue and why you want the port forwarded.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
March 08 2012 02:00 GMT
#158
On March 07 2012 14:02 Joedaddy wrote:
hey thanks. I figured out the windowed mode and was able to play a few more games. I'm so blown away by how different it is compared to SC2. Its insane how dummy proof they made it compared to BW. I find myself struggling just to get my scvs mining and making units lol ; ;


I'm glad you got it all figured out ^^. A lot of people would have given up a lot earlier haha.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Ogi
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
March 08 2012 07:18 GMT
#159
Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with connecting to iCCup. I downloaded the reg file and the anti-hack launcher. I get to the gateway screen, and can choose "The Abyss (iCCup)", but then in the connecting process when it gets to "Accessing Account" it just takes me back to the gateway screen. I've updated to 1.16.1 and I'm not sure exactly what to do.

Any ideas?
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
March 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#160
^^ Sounds like you havent forwarded your ports...
Ogi
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
March 08 2012 21:36 GMT
#161
I had read that was only if you needed to host. I went ahead and forwarded port 6112, but still the same problem happens. It doesn't make it past "Accessing Account" and just goes back to the gateway screen.
Ogi
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
March 09 2012 04:22 GMT
#162
Well now I've run into a new problem. After selecting Multiplayer > Expansion, the game crashes and doesn't even make it to the gateway selection screen. =/
ProxyColossus
Profile Joined March 2012
United States3 Posts
March 09 2012 04:50 GMT
#163
Hi! I just tried installing broodwar and when I loggin to ICCUP, everything seems fine. But when I hit leagues, it says "No Installed Leagues." I followed everything in ICCUP step by step. Can anyone help me please? ^^
EZ
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
March 09 2012 04:53 GMT
#164
You dont go into leagues, click on join game, you''ll see a lit of games being hosted there with the description. Double click on one of htem to play.
ProxyColossus
Profile Joined March 2012
United States3 Posts
March 09 2012 05:09 GMT
#165
Silly me xD thank you very much! Now after getting master in starcraft 2, I can struggle as I learn to play the father of it!
EZ
TheGGparadox
Profile Joined February 2012
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 22:40:52
March 09 2012 22:39 GMT
#166
I downloaded the anti hack launcher setup from the link given in the OP and the reg file. But after I use the anti hack launcher setup to create the launcher, nothing shows up. The launcher is not anywhere on my computer. How do I fix this?

(As I am writing this I get the feeling that I am just being a complete idiot and do not know anything I am doing lol)

Edit: Also, the Abyss gateway mentioned does not appear on my starcraft BW gateway list
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
April 09 2012 15:36 GMT
#167
I downloaded that free version but it doesn't work..? It says it can't open it as it is invalid?
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Valeranth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States100 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 03:31:41
May 04 2012 03:27 GMT
#168
On March 10 2012 07:39 TheGGparadox wrote:
I downloaded the anti hack launcher setup from the link given in the OP and the reg file. But after I use the anti hack launcher setup to create the launcher, nothing shows up. The launcher is not anywhere on my computer. How do I fix this?

(As I am writing this I get the feeling that I am just being a complete idiot and do not know anything I am doing lol)

Edit: Also, the Abyss gateway mentioned does not appear on my starcraft BW gateway list


Are you talking about after running the program or just that you cannot find the program at all. The launcher should be located in 'C:\Program Files (x86)\ICCup\Launcher' for 64bit versions of windows.

as for after running the program it may have minimized to your task bar and gotten hidden by windows. Look to the left of the clock and there should be a up arrow, click that and see if you can see the icon for it.


On April 10 2012 00:36 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
I downloaded that free version but it doesn't work..? It says it can't open it as it is invalid?


By opening it do you mean the zip file, or running the broodwar application itself? For the zip file I'd try and download it again, if that doesn't work try and upgrade winrar and if that still doesn't work try and see if you can repair the file in winrar.

As for running broodwar saying its invalid, make sure you have installed and ran either the anti-hack launcher or the regfile along with any setup files inside the broodwar directory. If these don't work think you can post a screenshot of the error?
rupp_lekkens
Profile Joined February 2012
Chile64 Posts
May 04 2012 05:15 GMT
#169
On February 21 2012 03:47 rupp_lekkens wrote:
Nice guide, very well explained, but... is there a way to play sc:bw with the original music? i downloaded the game from iccup and doesn't have it, please help

ps: sorry about my english



If anyone want the SC with music, english version and patched to 1.16.1... pm me ;D
please correct me if I'm wrong in my english
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
May 04 2012 09:45 GMT
#170
This is a very good guide, tbh
BSOD
SPL!T
Profile Joined June 2012
19 Posts
June 07 2012 08:09 GMT
#171
I got everything installed and colours fixed but when I choose Starcraft expansion it crashes.
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 05:49:48
June 18 2012 04:24 GMT
#172
Thanks for the guide. Any other tips while I wait for BW to download? I got about half an hour cuz my internet sucks

Edit: I'm ready to go lose 30 games in a row. Iccup, here I come!

Edit 2: I give up for now. I couldn't log into the abyss (entered the credentials from iccup to no avail), and then went on us west to see if I could log in at all. I could, but when I went back, the abyss wasn't listed in the BNET gateways. This is more annoying than linux nowadays!! Hopefully morning will improve things -.-
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
June 18 2012 06:07 GMT
#173
On June 18 2012 13:24 Mordanis wrote:
Thanks for the guide. Any other tips while I wait for BW to download? I got about half an hour cuz my internet sucks

Edit: I'm ready to go lose 30 games in a row. Iccup, here I come!

Edit 2: I give up for now. I couldn't log into the abyss (entered the credentials from iccup to no avail), and then went on us west to see if I could log in at all. I could, but when I went back, the abyss wasn't listed in the BNET gateways. This is more annoying than linux nowadays!! Hopefully morning will improve things -.-


the problem is that your serverlist gets changed when you log into b.net servers.
small dicks have great firepower
floi
Profile Joined July 2010
203 Posts
June 18 2012 08:46 GMT
#174
On June 18 2012 13:24 Mordanis wrote:
I could, but when I went back, the abyss wasn't listed in the BNET gateways. This is more annoying than linux nowadays!! Hopefully morning will improve things -.-


FYI, I'm playing on iccup under linux and it works quite well. I have also experienced the gateway disappearing, but switching launchers / re-using the .reg file easily fixed that.
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
June 18 2012 09:03 GMT
#175
i bought a new monitor few day ago and i cant play bw anymore, because half of the screen is missing, so i cant see my food, which really sucks.
its a samsung syncmaster T22A350, does anybody have experience with it, and know how to fix it?
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
GamanNo
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden63 Posts
June 18 2012 13:10 GMT
#176
I getting confused about this port forwarding thing. Do I have to do that even though I don't have a router? I just connect my ethernet cable to the wall and that's that. But every port forward guide says I need to know the name of my router so...
floi
Profile Joined July 2010
203 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 14:42:14
June 18 2012 14:41 GMT
#177
On June 18 2012 18:03 Windwaker wrote:
i bought a new monitor few day ago and i cant play bw anymore, because half of the screen is missing, so i cant see my food, which really sucks.
its a samsung syncmaster T22A350, does anybody have experience with it, and know how to fix it?

Do you use two screens at the same time? If you're on windows you could try the window mode of iccup or chaos launcher...

On June 18 2012 22:10 GamanNo wrote:
I getting confused about this port forwarding thing. Do I have to do that even though I don't have a router? I just connect my ethernet cable to the wall and that's that. But every port forward guide says I need to know the name of my router so...


is that at a university or a students' dorm? Have you tried hosting?
GamanNo
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden63 Posts
June 18 2012 15:39 GMT
#178
On June 18 2012 23:41 floi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 18:03 Windwaker wrote:
i bought a new monitor few day ago and i cant play bw anymore, because half of the screen is missing, so i cant see my food, which really sucks.
its a samsung syncmaster T22A350, does anybody have experience with it, and know how to fix it?

Do you use two screens at the same time? If you're on windows you could try the window mode of iccup or chaos launcher...

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 22:10 GamanNo wrote:
I getting confused about this port forwarding thing. Do I have to do that even though I don't have a router? I just connect my ethernet cable to the wall and that's that. But every port forward guide says I need to know the name of my router so...


is that at a university or a students' dorm? Have you tried hosting?


Well the apartment building is made for us students at the university, but I don't know if it differently set up compared to a regular apartment building. I haven't tried to host yet no, in fear of getting massive lag and making my opponent mad Oo.

But is it possible that it could work even though I haven't made any preparations?
floi
Profile Joined July 2010
203 Posts
June 18 2012 17:37 GMT
#179
I think it's unlikely that it's gonna work, but you would know before the game starts - if nobody ever joins your games you probably cannot host. You can still leave after somebody joined if you are so afraid of lag.
SEGGLE
Profile Joined June 2012
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 02:15:01
June 18 2012 20:08 GMT
#180
----fixed---
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 20 2016 03:36 GMT
#181
bump

Probably as a result of the recent VNSL Cast by Tasteless & Artosis i have seen some new faces around in the BW section. In order to not answer the same questions all the time, this Thread needs go active, so we have a central point.

Probable updates to the OP: Some tips for beginners would be good, like importance of macro, pick 1 build at starters for each MU, etc etc

Is the sgs.Clan still active in helping new users with the game? The concept was awesome

to beginners don't be shy to ask questions here! It also let's us get an idea of how many of you are out there atm :>
Broodwar for life!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10154 Posts
January 20 2016 03:42 GMT
#182
On January 20 2016 12:36 Cele wrote:
bump

Probably as a result of the recent VNSL Cast by Tasteless & Artosis i have seen some new faces around in the BW section. In order to not answer the same questions all the time, this Thread needs go active, so we have a central point.

Probable updates to the OP: Some tips for beginners would be good, like importance of macro, pick 1 build at starters for each MU, etc etc

Is the sgs.Clan still active in helping new users with the game? The concept was awesome

to beginners don't be shy to ask questions here! It also let's us get an idea of how many of you are out there atm :>

Great initiative! I would also like to direct all newcomers to our own version of "Simple Questions, Simple Answers" which I shamelessly stole from the StarCraft II section many years ago. Feel free to ask your questions here as well:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/220903-simple-questions-simple-answers

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
January 23 2016 23:29 GMT
#183
right

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/401737-bw-beginner-portal-lp
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