• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:44
CEST 23:44
KST 06:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall5HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL33Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?12FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event16Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster14Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29) WardiTV Mondays SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 $200 Biweekly - StarCraft Evolution League #1
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL Help: rep cant save Where did Hovz go?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL20] ProLeague LB Final - Saturday 20:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
Game Sound vs. Music: The Im…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 525 users

Commentator UJG "Danger? Or a Chance to Look Back" - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 31 2011 23:56 GMT
#21
Um started commentating even before Ongamenet was created in a kid's cartoon channel named tooniverse that was brodcasting starcraft leagues. "There were no game channels at first. We just took a ping-pong table that was rolling around somewhere inside the tooniverse company building and put a black cloth over it to use for stage setup and had a very small prize pool. It was just for fun, a small, weird event" He reminisced.

Really puts into perspective how far we've come, especially from the point of view of man who has been here from the very beginning and is still active. Very few men in BW can boast an ongoing legacy like that, and it's great to hear his opinion on these very dark times.

I hope BW lives long enough so that the ping pong table that birthed professional BW becomes a sacred artifact.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
September 01 2011 00:11 GMT
#22
Good to know there is some optimism around :D
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 01 2011 00:11 GMT
#23
On September 01 2011 08:56 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
Um started commentating even before Ongamenet was created in a kid's cartoon channel named tooniverse that was brodcasting starcraft leagues. "There were no game channels at first. We just took a ping-pong table that was rolling around somewhere inside the tooniverse company building and put a black cloth over it to use for stage setup and had a very small prize pool. It was just for fun, a small, weird event" He reminisced.

Really puts into perspective how far we've come, especially from the point of view of man who has been here from the very beginning and is still active. Very few men in BW can boast an ongoing legacy like that, and it's great to hear his opinion on these very dark times.

I hope BW lives long enough so that the ping pong table that birthed professional BW becomes a sacred artifact.


Wondering if they have kept the table....
One day we might see it on a museum with Egyptian artifact and Greek sculpture. Beside it lies, the table that gave birth to ESPORT!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1685 Posts
September 01 2011 00:32 GMT
#24
The guy is a living legend. You can tell he loves the game of BW.
EleGant[AoV]
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
September 01 2011 00:34 GMT
#25
holy shit this guy is a boss! Definitely gave me some new perspective on the happenings of BW
jaedong imba
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
September 01 2011 01:24 GMT
#26
On September 01 2011 07:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Thanks a lot for the article. He is a really amazing guy, and his comments help give perspective to what is happening.

If I were Blizzard, I would see this as a golden opportunity. Sponsoring one of the teams in trouble (or merging two of them) would be incredibly beneficial.
- Repair relationships with kespa
- Become a savior in the eyes of the Korean fan base (no pun intended)
- Provide a great marketing and advertising platform for reasonable cost

Just leave the existing management in place to increase trust, and boom, ultimate goodwill presence in an important market.


It's surely an excellent idea, but I think we all know deep down that Blizzard is too stubborn and short-sighted for this to happen.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
September 01 2011 01:50 GMT
#27
thanks for this translation, its very important to keep things in perspective
ace hwaiting!!
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
September 01 2011 01:54 GMT
#28
On September 01 2011 07:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Thanks a lot for the article. He is a really amazing guy, and his comments help give perspective to what is happening.

If I were Blizzard, I would see this as a golden opportunity. Sponsoring one of the teams in trouble (or merging two of them) would be incredibly beneficial.
- Repair relationships with kespa
- Become a savior in the eyes of the Korean fan base (no pun intended)
- Provide a great marketing and advertising platform for reasonable cost

Just leave the existing management in place to increase trust, and boom, ultimate goodwill presence in an important market.


I recall some Blizzard exec saying "as a business, we naturally want consumers to buy our newest product", or something to that extent. With that mindset I can't ever see them sponsoring a BW team, despite its potential.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 01 2011 02:20 GMT
#29
On September 01 2011 07:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Thanks a lot for the article. He is a really amazing guy, and his comments help give perspective to what is happening.

If I were Blizzard, I would see this as a golden opportunity. Sponsoring one of the teams in trouble (or merging two of them) would be incredibly beneficial.
- Repair relationships with kespa
- Become a savior in the eyes of the Korean fan base (no pun intended)
- Provide a great marketing and advertising platform for reasonable cost

Just leave the existing management in place to increase trust, and boom, ultimate goodwill presence in an important market.


That is an interesting idea. An even better idea is EG Fox.

I really would like to see GOM do another MSL, that would be so baller.
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
September 01 2011 02:25 GMT
#30
On September 01 2011 08:21 ZeroChrome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 08:03 Zona wrote:
Hmm, there seems to be another danger that's not being mentioned...the decline in the number of fans and viewers.

I really wish I knew enough Korean to dig around for the viewership ratings, but one thing I noticed is that in the "most popular games played in PC bangs" surveys, Brood War has dropped off the top-10 list entirely. Back when SC2 was introduced, BW was still more popular than SC2 among players at netcafes, but now it's not there anymore. (Mind you, SC2 hasn't really displaced it - it's just even more free MMO's on top now, with SC2 seemingly around the same place it was before.)


The rankings on gametrics puts BW at 4th. Which is actually slightly higher than earlier this year.


BW played has decreased but yeah, its rather stable and stays on the top 10 (I like to keep track on Korean PC Bang games for what to play next ^^)

But I still agree with the other guy that wanted to destroy Nexon DNF and Maple getting far too much play in PC Bangs (Also Aion and recently Tera)
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
September 01 2011 02:27 GMT
#31
Ultralisk commentator ftw. I hope him and Kim Carrier can continue commentating until their hair turns grey.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 01 2011 02:30 GMT
#32
<3
UJG!

manifesto's proposition also so awesome~
maybe someone could shoot a blizzard contact they know an email?
Hey! Listen!
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 01 2011 02:46 GMT
#33
I think the way SPL is run must be changed. Having teams play each other 7 times a year to determine play off order seems retarded to me. There is basically nothing at stake at each game.
macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
September 01 2011 03:38 GMT
#34
This guy is probably only reason why I love OSL so much
I'm a big fan of him
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
September 01 2011 03:46 GMT
#35
On September 01 2011 11:46 GoTuNk! wrote:
I think the way SPL is run must be changed. Having teams play each other 7 times a year to determine play off order seems retarded to me. There is basically nothing at stake at each game.


it'll have to be changed, because without MBCGame there can't be two games run concurrently. If it were up to me, I'd change back to 5 rounds from 6 (R3 Winners League) and have the top 4 teams make the playoffs. One match a day instead of two, since it's only OGN now. PL could run 6 days a week instead of 5, since there's no MSL.
I drop suckas like Plinko
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
September 01 2011 04:00 GMT
#36
Damn you Nexon!!!

Inspiring words from Commentator Um though.
gesgi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States36 Posts
September 01 2011 04:01 GMT
#37
On September 01 2011 07:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
If I were Blizzard, I would see this as a golden opportunity. Sponsoring one of the teams in trouble (or merging two of them) would be incredibly beneficial.
- Repair relationships with kespa
- Become a savior in the eyes of the Korean fan base (no pun intended)
- Provide a great marketing and advertising platform for reasonable cost

Just leave the existing management in place to increase trust, and boom, ultimate goodwill presence in an important market.


While I would be happy to see a new team formed or some of the now disbanding ones saved, I don't see Blizzard sponsoring a team playing out like this. I don't know what the korean stand point on this is, but if I was a korean I'd find Blizzard first going after kespa and BW while heavily pushing SC2 and then suddenly sponsoring a team in BW highly suspicious, no matter if they left the existing management in place or not.

Also, although BW is no longer being patched or in active development (right?), isn't it a bit fishy to have a development company sponsor a team in their own game? Kind of like NFL running their own american football team.

It's a beautiful idea, but I don't see how it working out like that.
Dear 허영무, thank you for everything. Oh, and congrats!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 01 2011 04:07 GMT
#38
--- Nuked ---
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 01 2011 04:13 GMT
#39
^
Anything that reduces the frequency of games that the players have to prepare for is a good thing in my book. It's pretty ridiculous now, with 2 games almost every week.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
September 01 2011 04:21 GMT
#40
Definitely puts things in perspective. BW clawed it's way up to the top from the very bottom. It's been through tougher trials, and I for one believe it will persist. Like he said, its all in the hands of the fans, and I think anyone who's been around TL long enough knows theres no shortage of passion for this game. We'll make due, one way or another!
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
20:00
Mid Season Playoffs
PAPI vs JumyLIVE!
Gerald vs Moja
ArT vs TBD
SteadfastSC302
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 302
Livibee 147
JuggernautJason145
ProTech69
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 113
scan(afreeca) 39
yabsab 28
Stormgate
NightEnD5
League of Legends
Grubby4177
Dendi1285
Counter-Strike
summit1g7086
Stewie2K521
Foxcn227
sgares168
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken34
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu608
Khaldor146
Other Games
fl0m1380
Pyrionflax190
Mew2King69
ZombieGrub63
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 39
• davetesta26
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 27
• blackmanpl 24
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3362
• Jankos1757
• masondota2551
Other Games
• imaqtpie1051
• Scarra1008
• Shiphtur212
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 16m
The PondCast
12h 16m
RSL Revival
12h 16m
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs Cham
WardiTV European League
18h 16m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 12h
herO vs SHIN
Reynor vs Cure
WardiTV European League
1d 18h
FEL
1d 18h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
FEL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
FEL
3 days
BSL: ProLeague
3 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-28
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.