• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:18
CEST 11:18
KST 18:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!40Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2?
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly SC2 INu's Battles#20 [BO.9] 2026 GSTL Announcement Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS [ASL22] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
[Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6797 users

Commentator UJG "Danger? Or a Chance to Look Back" - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 31 2011 23:56 GMT
#21
Um started commentating even before Ongamenet was created in a kid's cartoon channel named tooniverse that was brodcasting starcraft leagues. "There were no game channels at first. We just took a ping-pong table that was rolling around somewhere inside the tooniverse company building and put a black cloth over it to use for stage setup and had a very small prize pool. It was just for fun, a small, weird event" He reminisced.

Really puts into perspective how far we've come, especially from the point of view of man who has been here from the very beginning and is still active. Very few men in BW can boast an ongoing legacy like that, and it's great to hear his opinion on these very dark times.

I hope BW lives long enough so that the ping pong table that birthed professional BW becomes a sacred artifact.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
September 01 2011 00:11 GMT
#22
Good to know there is some optimism around :D
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 01 2011 00:11 GMT
#23
On September 01 2011 08:56 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
Um started commentating even before Ongamenet was created in a kid's cartoon channel named tooniverse that was brodcasting starcraft leagues. "There were no game channels at first. We just took a ping-pong table that was rolling around somewhere inside the tooniverse company building and put a black cloth over it to use for stage setup and had a very small prize pool. It was just for fun, a small, weird event" He reminisced.

Really puts into perspective how far we've come, especially from the point of view of man who has been here from the very beginning and is still active. Very few men in BW can boast an ongoing legacy like that, and it's great to hear his opinion on these very dark times.

I hope BW lives long enough so that the ping pong table that birthed professional BW becomes a sacred artifact.


Wondering if they have kept the table....
One day we might see it on a museum with Egyptian artifact and Greek sculpture. Beside it lies, the table that gave birth to ESPORT!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
September 01 2011 00:32 GMT
#24
The guy is a living legend. You can tell he loves the game of BW.
EleGant[AoV]
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
September 01 2011 00:34 GMT
#25
holy shit this guy is a boss! Definitely gave me some new perspective on the happenings of BW
jaedong imba
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
September 01 2011 01:24 GMT
#26
On September 01 2011 07:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Thanks a lot for the article. He is a really amazing guy, and his comments help give perspective to what is happening.

If I were Blizzard, I would see this as a golden opportunity. Sponsoring one of the teams in trouble (or merging two of them) would be incredibly beneficial.
- Repair relationships with kespa
- Become a savior in the eyes of the Korean fan base (no pun intended)
- Provide a great marketing and advertising platform for reasonable cost

Just leave the existing management in place to increase trust, and boom, ultimate goodwill presence in an important market.


It's surely an excellent idea, but I think we all know deep down that Blizzard is too stubborn and short-sighted for this to happen.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
September 01 2011 01:50 GMT
#27
thanks for this translation, its very important to keep things in perspective
ace hwaiting!!
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
September 01 2011 01:54 GMT
#28
On September 01 2011 07:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Thanks a lot for the article. He is a really amazing guy, and his comments help give perspective to what is happening.

If I were Blizzard, I would see this as a golden opportunity. Sponsoring one of the teams in trouble (or merging two of them) would be incredibly beneficial.
- Repair relationships with kespa
- Become a savior in the eyes of the Korean fan base (no pun intended)
- Provide a great marketing and advertising platform for reasonable cost

Just leave the existing management in place to increase trust, and boom, ultimate goodwill presence in an important market.


I recall some Blizzard exec saying "as a business, we naturally want consumers to buy our newest product", or something to that extent. With that mindset I can't ever see them sponsoring a BW team, despite its potential.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 01 2011 02:20 GMT
#29
On September 01 2011 07:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
Thanks a lot for the article. He is a really amazing guy, and his comments help give perspective to what is happening.

If I were Blizzard, I would see this as a golden opportunity. Sponsoring one of the teams in trouble (or merging two of them) would be incredibly beneficial.
- Repair relationships with kespa
- Become a savior in the eyes of the Korean fan base (no pun intended)
- Provide a great marketing and advertising platform for reasonable cost

Just leave the existing management in place to increase trust, and boom, ultimate goodwill presence in an important market.


That is an interesting idea. An even better idea is EG Fox.

I really would like to see GOM do another MSL, that would be so baller.
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
September 01 2011 02:25 GMT
#30
On September 01 2011 08:21 ZeroChrome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 08:03 Zona wrote:
Hmm, there seems to be another danger that's not being mentioned...the decline in the number of fans and viewers.

I really wish I knew enough Korean to dig around for the viewership ratings, but one thing I noticed is that in the "most popular games played in PC bangs" surveys, Brood War has dropped off the top-10 list entirely. Back when SC2 was introduced, BW was still more popular than SC2 among players at netcafes, but now it's not there anymore. (Mind you, SC2 hasn't really displaced it - it's just even more free MMO's on top now, with SC2 seemingly around the same place it was before.)


The rankings on gametrics puts BW at 4th. Which is actually slightly higher than earlier this year.


BW played has decreased but yeah, its rather stable and stays on the top 10 (I like to keep track on Korean PC Bang games for what to play next ^^)

But I still agree with the other guy that wanted to destroy Nexon DNF and Maple getting far too much play in PC Bangs (Also Aion and recently Tera)
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
September 01 2011 02:27 GMT
#31
Ultralisk commentator ftw. I hope him and Kim Carrier can continue commentating until their hair turns grey.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 01 2011 02:30 GMT
#32
<3
UJG!

manifesto's proposition also so awesome~
maybe someone could shoot a blizzard contact they know an email?
Hey! Listen!
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 01 2011 02:46 GMT
#33
I think the way SPL is run must be changed. Having teams play each other 7 times a year to determine play off order seems retarded to me. There is basically nothing at stake at each game.
macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
September 01 2011 03:38 GMT
#34
This guy is probably only reason why I love OSL so much
I'm a big fan of him
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
September 01 2011 03:46 GMT
#35
On September 01 2011 11:46 GoTuNk! wrote:
I think the way SPL is run must be changed. Having teams play each other 7 times a year to determine play off order seems retarded to me. There is basically nothing at stake at each game.


it'll have to be changed, because without MBCGame there can't be two games run concurrently. If it were up to me, I'd change back to 5 rounds from 6 (R3 Winners League) and have the top 4 teams make the playoffs. One match a day instead of two, since it's only OGN now. PL could run 6 days a week instead of 5, since there's no MSL.
I drop suckas like Plinko
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
September 01 2011 04:00 GMT
#36
Damn you Nexon!!!

Inspiring words from Commentator Um though.
gesgi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States36 Posts
September 01 2011 04:01 GMT
#37
On September 01 2011 07:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
If I were Blizzard, I would see this as a golden opportunity. Sponsoring one of the teams in trouble (or merging two of them) would be incredibly beneficial.
- Repair relationships with kespa
- Become a savior in the eyes of the Korean fan base (no pun intended)
- Provide a great marketing and advertising platform for reasonable cost

Just leave the existing management in place to increase trust, and boom, ultimate goodwill presence in an important market.


While I would be happy to see a new team formed or some of the now disbanding ones saved, I don't see Blizzard sponsoring a team playing out like this. I don't know what the korean stand point on this is, but if I was a korean I'd find Blizzard first going after kespa and BW while heavily pushing SC2 and then suddenly sponsoring a team in BW highly suspicious, no matter if they left the existing management in place or not.

Also, although BW is no longer being patched or in active development (right?), isn't it a bit fishy to have a development company sponsor a team in their own game? Kind of like NFL running their own american football team.

It's a beautiful idea, but I don't see how it working out like that.
Dear 허영무, thank you for everything. Oh, and congrats!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 01 2011 04:07 GMT
#38
--- Nuked ---
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 01 2011 04:13 GMT
#39
^
Anything that reduces the frequency of games that the players have to prepare for is a good thing in my book. It's pretty ridiculous now, with 2 games almost every week.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
September 01 2011 04:21 GMT
#40
Definitely puts things in perspective. BW clawed it's way up to the top from the very bottom. It's been through tougher trials, and I for one believe it will persist. Like he said, its all in the hands of the fans, and I think anyone who's been around TL long enough knows theres no shortage of passion for this game. We'll make due, one way or another!
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
EnDerr 33
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 956
Shuttle 775
Bisu 747
ZerO 154
EffOrt 87
ToSsGirL 74
Stork 62
Shinee 62
sSak 37
NotJumperer 16
[ Show more ]
910 15
soO 7
Light 0
League of Legends
JimRising 280
Counter-Strike
olofmeister950
shoxiejesuss882
byalli596
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King102
Other Games
ceh9732
crisheroes282
XaKoH 250
ZerO(Twitch)6
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH232
• StrangeGG 43
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Light_VIP 17
• iopq 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos936
Other Games
• WagamamaTV202
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
42m
KCM Race Survival
42m
OSC
13h 12m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 1h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-02
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.