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TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 06:34:24
August 14 2011 06:30 GMT
#141
On August 14 2011 14:44 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 14:23 Sawamura wrote:
On August 14 2011 13:13 StoLiVe wrote:
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....

They were kidding -_-;
i mean if i say vulture only cost 75 mineral, are the fastest unit in the game, and have 3 littl nuke for free, the reaver can kill 1 mineral line with one shot, defiler can do darkswarm...

that look imbe even if the game is perfectly balance


Calling vultures that have 3 nukes is making it imba ? lol they are so cheap that they are made out of paper armour since when 3 nukes are able to kill all the units in one area ? It's never meant to be an AOE like a nuke from a ghost it's anti personal mine except it does a little AoE in the area that it explodes . I don't see it imba at all but in sc2 i see lots of imba stuff archons ,hellions that kill drones like a lurker are really imba in my opinion . However fastest unit that are very fragile are quite weak to me next lets go to reaver oh right it can kill 1 mineral line if the scarabs weren't bug so not imba at all and defilers ? lol darkswarm ? i can just move out of the way and irradiate that defiler . Defiler problem ? no more .

Don't want to go further as these will probably lead to this thread to close keep the sc2 v bw discussion out of this .


Factious. Look it up in the dictionary

Atleast spell it properly man :/

But really, why so serious? My cheeks are hurting from all the laughing. I love how they spend the entire terran overview saying terran is imba lol

Edit:
Professor Park:
PvP - Practice 10 games a day, only 4 gate for 2 weeks = insta code A hahahaha
YelloW:
4 gate??
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Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 06:33:53
August 14 2011 06:33 GMT
#142
On August 14 2011 12:46 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....

TBH nobody does. Progamers and casters, it's just a source of income now the passion is close to nonexistent...Relative to BW that is. I'm unfamiliar with AOE, WC3, CnC.


Plenty of players still have passion for the game and their fans. Perhaps you believe they're so shallow all they want is the money. The mere existence of B-Teamers invalidates your point. They don't get paid jack, but they play and practice the game just as much as A-Teamers.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
August 14 2011 06:54 GMT
#143
Not to sidetrack the topic, but why so many of you BW guys all hate SC2 so much? It's a game in it's infancy, so you need to give the game some time for new micro-intensive units to be released for all the races, and I know blizzard's new CEO is money-grubbing, so there's no LAN, but do you have to bash it so early?7

I can't see why people talk of "disgracing" the BW community by starting to play a game that it seems yellow could end up being really good at, considering his mechanics in BW which fit zerg in SC2 perfectly, and could end up making him lots of money in the future. Who knows, he might really enjoy it too!
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
Geniuszerg
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada454 Posts
August 14 2011 06:55 GMT
#144
watched the first episode, its nice, but i don't get the hard working factor that nal_ra's oldboy had, gom seemed to have made it.. a lot more animated so to speak, but its a nice series

yellow fighting!
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 14 2011 06:56 GMT
#145
On August 14 2011 15:54 dgwow wrote:
Not to sidetrack the topic, but why so many of you BW guys all hate SC2 so much? It's a game in it's infancy, so you need to give the game some time for new micro-intensive units to be released for all the races, and I know blizzard's new CEO is money-grubbing, so there's no LAN, but do you have to bash it so early?7

I can't see why people talk of "disgracing" the BW community by starting to play a game that it seems yellow could end up being really good at, considering his mechanics in BW which fit zerg in SC2 perfectly, and could end up making him lots of money in the future. Who knows, he might really enjoy it too!


you are derailing this thread again .............
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 07:00:40
August 14 2011 06:59 GMT
#146
On August 14 2011 08:52 Wrongspeedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 05:46 Ribbon wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:20 xMiragex wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:31 loazis wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:57 Black[CAT] wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:42 SenorChang wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:37 Turenne wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:05 Fenrax wrote:
wow wow wow

yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?



lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.

By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p

It's a different game yo!


They will, in due time

No, they won't.


NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.


Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.

But Yellow?

Here are some more free VODs

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65859 (Part 1)
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65860 (Part 2)

That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.

Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.


Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........


Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.

Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.

Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.

On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...


Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.

Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.

Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?

I don't think he can.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
August 14 2011 07:01 GMT
#147
On August 14 2011 15:56 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 15:54 dgwow wrote:
Not to sidetrack the topic, but why so many of you BW guys all hate SC2 so much? It's a game in it's infancy, so you need to give the game some time for new micro-intensive units to be released for all the races, and I know blizzard's new CEO is money-grubbing, so there's no LAN, but do you have to bash it so early?7

I can't see why people talk of "disgracing" the BW community by starting to play a game that it seems yellow could end up being really good at, considering his mechanics in BW which fit zerg in SC2 perfectly, and could end up making him lots of money in the future. Who knows, he might really enjoy it too!


you are derailing this thread again .............


Sorry, just wanted a quick answer I don't really go on BW thread much. Anyways I'm exciting to see YellOw's playstyle
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 14 2011 07:04 GMT
#148
On August 14 2011 15:59 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 08:52 Wrongspeedy wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:46 Ribbon wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:20 xMiragex wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:31 loazis wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:57 Black[CAT] wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:42 SenorChang wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:37 Turenne wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:05 Fenrax wrote:
wow wow wow

yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?



lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.

By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p

It's a different game yo!


They will, in due time

No, they won't.


NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.


Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.

But Yellow?

Here are some more free VODs

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65859 (Part 1)
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65860 (Part 2)

That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.

Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.


Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........


Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.

Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.

Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...


Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.

Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.

Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?

I don't think he can.


vultures cost 75 minerals and spider mine upgrades aren't free you know =.=
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50586 Posts
August 14 2011 07:17 GMT
#149
On August 14 2011 16:04 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 15:59 Ribbon wrote:
On August 14 2011 08:52 Wrongspeedy wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:46 Ribbon wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:20 xMiragex wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:31 loazis wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:57 Black[CAT] wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:42 SenorChang wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:37 Turenne wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:05 Fenrax wrote:
wow wow wow

yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?



lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.

By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p

It's a different game yo!


They will, in due time

No, they won't.


NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.


Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.

But Yellow?

Here are some more free VODs

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65859 (Part 1)
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65860 (Part 2)

That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.

Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.


Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........


Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.

Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.

Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.

On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...


Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.

Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.

Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?

I don't think he can.


vultures cost 75 minerals and spider mine upgrades aren't free you know =.=

dude,stop,hes joking.
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Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 14 2011 08:15 GMT
#150
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On August 14 2011 15:59 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 08:52 Wrongspeedy wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:46 Ribbon wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:20 xMiragex wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:31 loazis wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:57 Black[CAT] wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:42 SenorChang wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:37 Turenne wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:05 Fenrax wrote:
wow wow wow

yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?



lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.

By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p

It's a different game yo!


They will, in due time

No, they won't.


NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.


Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.

But Yellow?

Here are some more free VODs

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65859 (Part 1)
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65860 (Part 2)

That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.

Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.


Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........


Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.

Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.

Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.

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On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...


Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.

Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.

Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?

I don't think he can.


I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
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ajx.Pylon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
August 14 2011 08:23 GMT
#151
When does the og oldboy himself, Nal rA, get out of his military service? It's about time he made the switch to SC2. He would, by default, the only Protoss I could root for. Yellow is a little bit *too* prehistoric for my tastes.
Jurassic
Profile Joined July 2010
Hungary79 Posts
August 14 2011 08:25 GMT
#152
On August 14 2011 12:46 ShadeR wrote:
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On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....

TBH nobody does. Progamers and casters, it's just a source of income now the passion is close to nonexistent...Relative to BW that is. I'm unfamiliar with AOE, WC3, CnC.


Maybe he won't have that much passion (he is getting old for a progamer...), but he said it himself that SC2 resurrected his competitve spirit, what he have not felt for a long time now in BW. Of course not all SC2 pros have passion for the game, but then, why would you think that some BW pros aren't playing for just the money?
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
August 14 2011 08:26 GMT
#153
I'm glad to see old BW players switch to sc2 but everytime that happens, little part of me sees them as traitors for some reason O O

Anyhow best of luck for one of the best BW zergs :O)
Forever Vulture.. :(
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 14 2011 08:31 GMT
#154
On August 14 2011 17:23 ajx.Pylon wrote:
When does the og oldboy himself, Nal rA, get out of his military service? It's about time he made the switch to SC2. He would, by default, the only Protoss I could root for. Yellow is a little bit *too* prehistoric for my tastes.

He's unlikely to quit his OGN job for SC2. He might participate in GSL as a part-time thing but his main job will stay as a commentator/tv show host.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 14 2011 08:32 GMT
#155
On August 14 2011 16:01 dgwow wrote:
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On August 14 2011 15:56 Sawamura wrote:
On August 14 2011 15:54 dgwow wrote:
Not to sidetrack the topic, but why so many of you BW guys all hate SC2 so much? It's a game in it's infancy, so you need to give the game some time for new micro-intensive units to be released for all the races, and I know blizzard's new CEO is money-grubbing, so there's no LAN, but do you have to bash it so early?7

I can't see why people talk of "disgracing" the BW community by starting to play a game that it seems yellow could end up being really good at, considering his mechanics in BW which fit zerg in SC2 perfectly, and could end up making him lots of money in the future. Who knows, he might really enjoy it too!


you are derailing this thread again .............


Sorry, just wanted a quick answer I don't really go on BW thread much. Anyways I'm exciting to see YellOw's playstyle

You want a quick answer to a nonexistent question. As far as i know nobody in this thread has claimed Yellow is "disgracing BW" as you put it, by playing SC2.
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
August 14 2011 08:35 GMT
#156
Good for him I suppose. His skill level should be sufficient to compete with former B-teamers and foreigners so hope he'd win a title or something
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 08:49:25
August 14 2011 08:48 GMT
#157
Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.

http://twitter.com/#!/qxc0000/status/102655310002536448

http://twitter.com/#!/moletrap/status/102430985471266816

http://twitter.com/#!/moletrap/status/102656355537666048
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 14 2011 08:52 GMT
#158
On August 14 2011 17:48 Xkalibert wrote:
Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.

http://twitter.com/#!/qxc0000/status/102655310002536448

http://twitter.com/#!/moletrap/status/102430985471266816

http://twitter.com/#!/moletrap/status/102656355537666048

BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
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Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 08:58:35
August 14 2011 08:58 GMT
#159
On August 14 2011 17:52 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 17:48 Xkalibert wrote:
Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.

http://twitter.com/#!/qxc0000/status/102655310002536448

http://twitter.com/#!/moletrap/status/102430985471266816

http://twitter.com/#!/moletrap/status/102656355537666048

BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.


Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
August 14 2011 09:04 GMT
#160
On August 14 2011 17:58 Xkalibert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 17:52 Ryo wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:48 Xkalibert wrote:
Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.

http://twitter.com/#!/qxc0000/status/102655310002536448

http://twitter.com/#!/moletrap/status/102430985471266816

http://twitter.com/#!/moletrap/status/102656355537666048

BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.


Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Leta will spicen things up at group nominations if he ever makes his switch to sc2 and makes it into code S ?

Hmmm gotta visit Nada's body thread to check some Leta pictures out :D:D (no homo LOL)!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
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