EDIT : EPISODE 5 IS OUT Yes we have seen the old boy series where we smile and cried with nal ra as we were shown deep and intimate moments through out the series especially the part where he got eliminated by puma over all I just want to bring you guys to notice to who ever still want to watch yellow give a shot at pro gaming and qualify for sc2 gsl code A head on to this thread and its called PROJECT A (non related to jackie chan project A :D)
and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods for your pleasure and I am haunting both of this threads and checking gom website if the vods of his project a are uploaded . Well I am not sure where these is leading though probably our bw scene if compared to golf would be the PGA Tour and the sc2 scene where is the old veteran would go there and try to earn some money hence probably can be called the champions tour .
I am not causing any disparity in the community or what so ever for saying things like that if you want to hate it hate me for saying it . Overall I just want to make sure guys from the bw section know that the yellow (kt rolster main man ) in boxer era is still living the dream guys come and show some support for him ^^ . I will update the thread once the vods are out .
Official info from Gom
Project A will be broadcasted every Friday starting from Aug. 12th to Sept. 10th.
YellOw will go through 7weeks of training and will challenge Code A qualifier for GSL Oct. After his retirement from StarCraft 1, will he be able to shine again through StarCraft 2?
The program will be broadcasted every Friday after GSTL Venus League. The Final result will be revealed following the broadcast of GSL Aug. finals.
VOD will be available at GSL Aug. page for free. Service will be provided with English subtitles.
Thank you and stay tuned!
GOMTV.net
Project A Episode1 already out thanks to Antoine for the link
On August 13 2011 01:38 Antoine wrote: here's the link for the first episode: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65947 you might have to register a free account to watch it, i'm not sure.
Yes you just have to click on the link and it will load the video so nothing complex it's just like clicking on a youtube link and presto you get to watch the vods ^^.
Poll: Which will be the better coach for yellow in project A ?
ZergBong (Nestea) (460)
77%
ST_July (71)
12%
Slayers Boxer (53)
9%
Nada (14)
2%
598 total votes
Your vote: Which will be the better coach for yellow in project A ?
On August 13 2011 00:56 Sawamura wrote: Yes we have seen the old boy series where we smile and cried with nal ra as we were shown deep and intimate moments through out the series especially the part where he got eliminated by puma over all I just want to bring you guys to notice to who ever still want to watch yellow give a shot at pro gaming and qualify for sc2 gsl code A head on to this thread and its called PROJECT A (non related to jackie chan project A :D)
and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods for your pleasure and I am haunting both of this threads and checking gom website if the vods of his project a are uploaded . Well I am not sure where these is leading though probably our bw scene if compared to golf would be the PGA Tour and the sc2 scene where is the old veteran would go there and try to earn some money hence probably can be called the champions tour .
I am not causing any disparity in the community or what so ever for saying things like that if you want to hate it hate me for saying it . Overall I just want to make sure guys from the bw section know that the yellow (kt rolster main man ) in boxer era is still living the dream guys come and show some support for him ^^ . I will update the thread once the vods are out .
Good post nice to highlight Yellow though I don't see him doing much in SC2 unfortunately, but I hope I'm wrong.
On August 13 2011 00:56 Sawamura wrote: Yes we have seen the old boy series where we smile and cried with nal ra as we were shown deep and intimate moments through out the series especially the part where he got eliminated by puma over all I just want to bring you guys to notice to who ever still want to watch yellow give a shot at pro gaming and qualify for sc2 gsl code A head on to this thread and its called PROJECT A (non related to jackie chan project A :D)
and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods for your pleasure and I am haunting both of this threads and checking gom website if the vods of his project a are uploaded . Well I am not sure where these is leading though probably our bw scene if compared to golf would be the PGA Tour and the sc2 scene where is the old veteran would go there and try to earn some money hence probably can be called the champions tour .
I am not causing any disparity in the community or what so ever for saying things like that if you want to hate it hate me for saying it . Overall I just want to make sure guys from the bw section know that the yellow (kt rolster main man ) in boxer era is still living the dream guys come and show some support for him ^^ . I will update the thread once the vods are out .
Good post nice to highlight Yellow though I don't see him doing much in SC2 unfortunately, but I hope I'm wrong.
I really hope to see lots of old boy nal ra moments in this show though can't wait to get my hands on it :D
Hmm... actually I think Yellow is more interested in entering the esports entertainment scene. He did "Hyungjun Forms a Game Team", now this (which is basically the SC2 version of "Old Boy") and recently he also appeared on the Sungchoon Show.
He seems to really enjoy filming these variety shows so I bet you will see him appear in more of these in the future, both SC2 related and BW related.
On August 13 2011 01:06 Ryo wrote: Hmm... actually I think Yellow is more interested in entering the esports entertainment scene. He did "Hyungjun Forms a Game Team", now this (which is basically the SC2 version of "Old Boy") and recently he also appeared on the Sungchoon Show.
Isn't that good news after all having yellow in the esport be it entertainment or pro gaming is better than not having no yellow after all . I am just happy that we can see him in action again despite it being sc2 and if he qualifies for sc2 I would be extremely joyed that he can actually make it through sc2 . ^^
On August 13 2011 01:06 Ryo wrote: Hmm... actually I think Yellow is more interested in entering the esports entertainment scene. He did "Hyungjun Forms a Game Team", now this (which is basically the SC2 version of "Old Boy") and recently he also appeared on the Sungchoon Show.
Isn't that good news after all having yellow in the esport be it entertainment or pro gaming is better than not having no yellow after all . I am just happy that we can see him in action again despite it being sc2 and if he qualifies for sc2 I would be extremely joyed that he can actually make it through sc2 . ^^
Not saying it's not good news, I'm just thinking that this was his plan all along. Because not long after he returned from ACE, he started filming the Hyungjun series.
On August 13 2011 01:06 Ryo wrote: Hmm... actually I think Yellow is more interested in entering the esports entertainment scene. He did "Hyungjun Forms a Game Team", now this (which is basically the SC2 version of "Old Boy") and recently he also appeared on the Sungchoon Show.
Isn't that good news after all having yellow in the esport be it entertainment or pro gaming is better than not having no yellow after all . I am just happy that we can see him in action again despite it being sc2 and if he qualifies for sc2 I would be extremely joyed that he can actually make it through sc2 . ^^
Not saying it's not good news, I'm just thinking that this was his plan all along. Because not long after he returned from ACE, he started filming the Hyungjun series.
I think you are right ryo after giving it all at Ace and was approach by hyungjoon for another series he probably is shifting his career in to entertainment esports but wasn't the second season a flop ? I lost interest after watching the first episode of the second season.
On August 13 2011 00:56 Sawamura wrote: Yes we have seen the old boy series where we smile and cried with nal ra as we were shown deep and intimate moments through out the series especially the part where he got eliminated by puma over all I just want to bring you guys to notice to who ever still want to watch yellow give a shot at pro gaming and qualify for sc2 gsl code A head on to this thread and its called PROJECT A (non related to jackie chan project A :D)
and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods for your pleasure and I am haunting both of this threads and checking gom website if the vods of his project a are uploaded . Well I am not sure where these is leading though probably our bw scene if compared to golf would be the PGA Tour and the sc2 scene where is the old veteran would go there and try to earn some money hence probably can be called the champions tour .
I am not causing any disparity in the community or what so ever for saying things like that if you want to hate it hate me for saying it . Overall I just want to make sure guys from the bw section know that the yellow (kt rolster main man ) in boxer era is still living the dream guys come and show some support for him ^^ . I will update the thread once the vods are out .
Good post nice to highlight Yellow though I don't see him doing much in SC2 unfortunately, but I hope I'm wrong.
Remember, Yellow not having ever won a major title is a huge plus in competing at the top level. He, all other things being equal, has a much bigger hunger for titles than Boxer or other sc2 champs.
This thread is a good idea for those who keep the other sections closed. It was actually pretty hilarious, I had a good time. If you're able to bear talk about SC2 I recommend catching it when they upload VOD's later today. It's free and mostly subtitled. (enough to understand it, they lessen some of the details) It'll be airing every Friday after the GSTL match until the next Code A which YellOw will attempt to qualify for.
On August 13 2011 01:06 Ryo wrote: Hmm... actually I think Yellow is more interested in entering the esports entertainment scene. He did "Hyungjun Forms a Game Team", now this (which is basically the SC2 version of "Old Boy") and recently he also appeared on the Sungchoon Show.
Isn't that good news after all having yellow in the esport be it entertainment or pro gaming is better than not having no yellow after all . I am just happy that we can see him in action again despite it being sc2 and if he qualifies for sc2 I would be extremely joyed that he can actually make it through sc2 . ^^
Not saying it's not good news, I'm just thinking that this was his plan all along. Because not long after he returned from ACE, he started filming the Hyungjun series.
I think you are right ryo after giving it all at Ace and was approach by hyungjoon for another series he probably is shifting his career in to entertainment esports but wasn't the second season a flop ? I lost interest after watching the first episode of the second season.
Well, nothing could ever beat the first series, since that's the highest rated non-live esports related broadcast ever. But Yellow looked like he enjoyed himself so that probably whet his appetite for more.
On August 13 2011 00:56 Sawamura wrote: Yes we have seen the old boy series where we smile and cried with nal ra as we were shown deep and intimate moments through out the series especially the part where he got eliminated by puma over all I just want to bring you guys to notice to who ever still want to watch yellow give a shot at pro gaming and qualify for sc2 gsl code A head on to this thread and its called PROJECT A (non related to jackie chan project A :D)
and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods for your pleasure and I am haunting both of this threads and checking gom website if the vods of his project a are uploaded . Well I am not sure where these is leading though probably our bw scene if compared to golf would be the PGA Tour and the sc2 scene where is the old veteran would go there and try to earn some money hence probably can be called the champions tour .
I am not causing any disparity in the community or what so ever for saying things like that if you want to hate it hate me for saying it . Overall I just want to make sure guys from the bw section know that the yellow (kt rolster main man ) in boxer era is still living the dream guys come and show some support for him ^^ . I will update the thread once the vods are out .
Good post nice to highlight Yellow though I don't see him doing much in SC2 unfortunately, but I hope I'm wrong.
Remember, Yellow not having ever won a major title is a huge plus in competing at the top level. He, all other things being equal, has a much bigger hunger for titles than Boxer or other sc2 champs.
This might not be OSL/MSL level but considering the competition I wouldn't say Yellow is without his fair share of big wins:
I'm really excited to see the VOD of the first episode of project A,subs from the get go is also really nice.
I'm happy YellOw is continuing to do Esports related stuff,I saw no reason for him to quit Esports altogether,although I like watching in that show on OGN where he plays teamgames and 1v3s against random people off B.net and Fish.
On August 13 2011 00:56 Sawamura wrote: Yes we have seen the old boy series where we smile and cried with nal ra as we were shown deep and intimate moments through out the series especially the part where he got eliminated by puma over all I just want to bring you guys to notice to who ever still want to watch yellow give a shot at pro gaming and qualify for sc2 gsl code A head on to this thread and its called PROJECT A (non related to jackie chan project A :D)
and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods for your pleasure and I am haunting both of this threads and checking gom website if the vods of his project a are uploaded . Well I am not sure where these is leading though probably our bw scene if compared to golf would be the PGA Tour and the sc2 scene where is the old veteran would go there and try to earn some money hence probably can be called the champions tour .
I am not causing any disparity in the community or what so ever for saying things like that if you want to hate it hate me for saying it . Overall I just want to make sure guys from the bw section know that the yellow (kt rolster main man ) in boxer era is still living the dream guys come and show some support for him ^^ . I will update the thread once the vods are out .
Good post nice to highlight Yellow though I don't see him doing much in SC2 unfortunately, but I hope I'm wrong.
Remember, Yellow not having ever won a major title is a huge plus in competing at the top level. He, all other things being equal, has a much bigger hunger for titles than Boxer or other sc2 champs.
This might not be OSL/MSL level but considering the competition I wouldn't say Yellow is without his fair share of big wins:
On August 13 2011 00:56 Sawamura wrote: Yes we have seen the old boy series where we smile and cried with nal ra as we were shown deep and intimate moments through out the series especially the part where he got eliminated by puma over all I just want to bring you guys to notice to who ever still want to watch yellow give a shot at pro gaming and qualify for sc2 gsl code A head on to this thread and its called PROJECT A (non related to jackie chan project A :D)
and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods for your pleasure and I am haunting both of this threads and checking gom website if the vods of his project a are uploaded . Well I am not sure where these is leading though probably our bw scene if compared to golf would be the PGA Tour and the sc2 scene where is the old veteran would go there and try to earn some money hence probably can be called the champions tour .
I am not causing any disparity in the community or what so ever for saying things like that if you want to hate it hate me for saying it . Overall I just want to make sure guys from the bw section know that the yellow (kt rolster main man ) in boxer era is still living the dream guys come and show some support for him ^^ . I will update the thread once the vods are out .
Good post nice to highlight Yellow though I don't see him doing much in SC2 unfortunately, but I hope I'm wrong.
Remember, Yellow not having ever won a major title is a huge plus in competing at the top level. He, all other things being equal, has a much bigger hunger for titles than Boxer or other sc2 champs.
This might not be OSL/MSL level but considering the competition I wouldn't say Yellow is without his fair share of big wins:
On August 13 2011 01:38 Antoine wrote: here's the link for the first episode: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65947 you might have to register a free account to watch it, i'm not sure.
O.O !#@$ it's already out ,wait i just have to download the gom client right to watch it right @@ ? I am really new with the gom sc2 thingy T_T.
On August 13 2011 01:41 kollin wrote: Mwahahaha, another hero is claimed!
I will claim you too i will be there in your dreams waiting with lots of knives and anything that can bite you in the dark . I will be there don't worry I am incarnation of freddy kruger except I am more worst in terms of attitude .
On August 13 2011 01:38 Antoine wrote: here's the link for the first episode: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65947 you might have to register a free account to watch it, i'm not sure.
O.O !#@$ it's already out ,wait i just have to download the gom client right to watch it right @@ ? I am really new with the gom sc2 thingy T_T.
i think the in-browser vod player (like this) just requires flash and not the whole gom player shebang, but i could be wrong
by the way forgot to mention this but it comes subbed in english ^^
On August 13 2011 01:38 Antoine wrote: here's the link for the first episode: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65947 you might have to register a free account to watch it, i'm not sure.
O.O !#@$ it's already out ,wait i just have to download the gom client right to watch it right @@ ? I am really new with the gom sc2 thingy T_T.
i think the in-browser vod player (like this) just requires flash and not the whole gom player shebang, but i could be wrong
by the way forgot to mention this but it comes subbed in english ^^
yeah i know about the sub english anyway thanks for the links man ^^v
On August 13 2011 01:38 Antoine wrote: here's the link for the first episode: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65947 you might have to register a free account to watch it, i'm not sure.
O.O !#@$ it's already out ,wait i just have to download the gom client right to watch it right @@ ? I am really new with the gom sc2 thingy T_T.
i think the in-browser vod player (like this) just requires flash and not the whole gom player shebang, but i could be wrong
by the way forgot to mention this but it comes subbed in english ^^
yeah i know about the sub english anyway thanks for the links man ^^v
well its not word for word translation but damn its so funny.:p
On August 13 2011 01:38 Antoine wrote: here's the link for the first episode: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65947 you might have to register a free account to watch it, i'm not sure.
O.O !#@$ it's already out ,wait i just have to download the gom client right to watch it right @@ ? I am really new with the gom sc2 thingy T_T.
i think the in-browser vod player (like this) just requires flash and not the whole gom player shebang, but i could be wrong
by the way forgot to mention this but it comes subbed in english ^^
yeah i know about the sub english anyway thanks for the links man ^^v
well its not word for word translation but damn its so funny.:p
@@ what's so funny about it i haven't watch it yet downloading some stuff but will watch it later and how long was the show is it 20 minutes plus ?
On August 13 2011 01:38 Antoine wrote: here's the link for the first episode: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65947 you might have to register a free account to watch it, i'm not sure.
O.O !#@$ it's already out ,wait i just have to download the gom client right to watch it right @@ ? I am really new with the gom sc2 thingy T_T.
i think the in-browser vod player (like this) just requires flash and not the whole gom player shebang, but i could be wrong
by the way forgot to mention this but it comes subbed in english ^^
yeah i know about the sub english anyway thanks for the links man ^^v
well its not word for word translation but damn its so funny.:p
@@ what's so funny about it i haven't watch it yet downloading some stuff but will watch it later and how long was the show is it 20 minutes plus ?
I'm finding it funny,but you might not,I fell off my chair watching Hyungjoon and old boy several times,so I might not be the best critique for you.
On August 13 2011 01:06 Ryo wrote: Hmm... actually I think Yellow is more interested in entering the esports entertainment scene. He did "Hyungjun Forms a Game Team", now this (which is basically the SC2 version of "Old Boy") and recently he also appeared on the Sungchoon Show.
Isn't that good news after all having yellow in the esport be it entertainment or pro gaming is better than not having no yellow after all . I am just happy that we can see him in action again despite it being sc2 and if he qualifies for sc2 I would be extremely joyed that he can actually make it through sc2 . ^^
Puma will probably knock him out in the final round of Code B qualifiers.
Ahhh that GOM player always screws me over TT I can't watch my childhood hero as an older person that understands for once ZergBong, Nal_Ra, Reach and Yellow reunion!
On August 13 2011 03:06 _Quasar_ wrote: I couldn't make myself even watch Boxer vs Yellow showmatch, doubt I'll follow this (and its even code A not code S).
The 2nd game was pretty good. YellOW is obviously not on the same level as BoxeR, but he catches him a little off guard in game 2 with a BW strategy using Roaches (fast Hydra drop). I think it will be fun just to see him try and become a good Sc2 Progamer in only a month, will at least be pretty funny, and interesting.
On August 13 2011 00:56 Sawamura wrote: Yes we have seen the old boy series where we smile and cried with nal ra as we were shown deep and intimate moments through out the series especially the part where he got eliminated by puma over all I just want to bring you guys to notice to who ever still want to watch yellow give a shot at pro gaming and qualify for sc2 gsl code A head on to this thread and its called PROJECT A (non related to jackie chan project A :D)
and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods for your pleasure and I am haunting both of this threads and checking gom website if the vods of his project a are uploaded . Well I am not sure where these is leading though probably our bw scene if compared to golf would be the PGA Tour and the sc2 scene where is the old veteran would go there and try to earn some money hence probably can be called the champions tour .
I am not causing any disparity in the community or what so ever for saying things like that if you want to hate it hate me for saying it . Overall I just want to make sure guys from the bw section know that the yellow (kt rolster main man ) in boxer era is still living the dream guys come and show some support for him ^^ . I will update the thread once the vods are out .
Good post nice to highlight Yellow though I don't see him doing much in SC2 unfortunately, but I hope I'm wrong.
First of all, please get this SC2 bullshit out of the BW forums and secondly if Yellow bothers to try he'll be easily the best SC2 player in a month or so considering his BW mechanics. Thats if he bothers to try, although I don't know why he would, as far as I am concerned he is retired from pro-gaming.
On August 13 2011 03:06 _Quasar_ wrote: I couldn't make myself even watch Boxer vs Yellow showmatch, doubt I'll follow this (and its even code A not code S).
The 2nd game was pretty good. YellOW is obviously not on the same level as BoxeR, but he catches him a little off guard in game 2 with a BW strategy using Roaches (fast Hydra drop). I think it will be fun just to see him try and become a good Sc2 Progamer in only a month, will at least be pretty funny, and interesting.
ah, that was one of the reasons... I mean wtf Yellow new to SC2 and Boxer playing it for like 1 year? I thought this match was a bit unfair given the gap between the experience levels of players.
So apparently according to the show as a Terran player all you need to know is how to use Marines, Medivacs, and Hellions ... lolol YellOw claims Terran imba!
On August 13 2011 05:52 kOre wrote: So apparently according to the show as a Terran player all you need to know is how to use Marines, Medivacs, and Hellions ... lolol YellOw claims Terran imba!
When he related hellions to lurkers, it certainly rang true in my mind ^^
Hey, guys...I dislike SCII as much as anyone but let him post it here. It *is* BW related, since it is Yellow. Even though, as a fan, I'm a little miffed myself at this whole "retire from BW ----> jump ship" bandwagon that has seemed to come up. I hope it's just for entertainment and I wish Yellow all the best.
On August 13 2011 05:52 kOre wrote: So apparently according to the show as a Terran player all you need to know is how to use Marines, Medivacs, and Hellions ... lolol YellOw claims Terran imba!
When he related hellions to lurkers, it certainly rang true in my mind ^^
Hahaha yeah but then I imagined Jaedong doing Lurker drops ... which don't really work ahah
I'm not sure why this is in the BW section, but whatever.
We should set up a poll for whether he'll qualify or not. After the Boxer-Yellow showmatch where he said he was gold league and played like it (I am literally better at SC2 than Yellow was, it was actually a fiasco), I don't think he has the slightest chance in hell, honestly. Not in a month, certainly. But I'm rooting for him, anyway!
On August 13 2011 06:32 Tenthist wrote: Sc2 is no way the old veteran league for the BW players. Sc2 requires skill in a different sense. Get it right OP maker.
Let's not start another BW vs SC2 thread. If you don't like SC2, just imagine it's "another game". If you do, don't start here.
On August 13 2011 06:34 Zera wrote: After 30 minutes of watching it stops and requires to buy a season ticket :/ hope someone will upload it on YT
It's 30 minutes long. I think the Gom site tries to autoplay the next video it has (a GSTL match), when the Yellow one is over. Kind of weird. The VODs are free, there's just only one episode right now.
On August 13 2011 06:32 Ribbon wrote: I'm not sure why this is in the BW section, but whatever.
We should set up a poll for whether he'll qualify or not. After the Boxer-Yellow showmatch where he said he was gold league and played like it (I am literally better at SC2 than Yellow was, it was actually a fiasco), I don't think he has the slightest chance in hell, honestly. Not in a month, certainly. But I'm rooting for him, anyway!
On August 13 2011 06:32 Tenthist wrote: Sc2 is no way the old veteran league for the BW players. Sc2 requires skill in a different sense. Get it right OP maker.
Let's not start another BW vs SC2 thread. If you don't like SC2, just imagine it's "another game". If you do, don't start here.
where in my message does it say I dont like sc2?? Point that out before you say anything.
On August 13 2011 06:32 Ribbon wrote: I'm not sure why this is in the BW section, but whatever.
We should set up a poll for whether he'll qualify or not. After the Boxer-Yellow showmatch where he said he was gold league and played like it (I am literally better at SC2 than Yellow was, it was actually a fiasco), I don't think he has the slightest chance in hell, honestly. Not in a month, certainly. But I'm rooting for him, anyway!
On August 13 2011 06:32 Tenthist wrote: Sc2 is no way the old veteran league for the BW players. Sc2 requires skill in a different sense. Get it right OP maker.
Let's not start another BW vs SC2 thread. If you don't like SC2, just imagine it's "another game". If you do, don't start here.
where in my message does it say I dont like sc2?? Point that out before you say anything.
Read his post again. He's not saying you don't like SC2.
I am very interested to see how Yellow develops but I preferred the style of Oldboy more. I think Oldboy is just straight translation while this one has annoying sounds when with the translation notes.
I got into the BW scene too late to see Yellow and Boxer in their primes, but I still know some history. I have to say, GOM's series was a lot of fun to watch so far. You can absolutely tell that Yellow is a true star; he's hardly phased by everything the studio set up and keeps up a smile and great attitude as he jokes back and forth with the crew. I really appreciate the fact that GOM threw in some English captions so we could follow the dialogue. And it's funny seeing how the Koreans have the same SC2 jokes we have (marines and free bunkers imba!). It's good to see some insight into the Korean side of SC2 coaching and casting as well, to which the average viewer has had surprisingly little exposure.
Good luck Yellow! You've definitely got a lot of fans cheering you on.
I'm interested to know how much Korean interest in SC2 is generated when nostalgic players like Yellow switches over. I hope these kinds of player transitions are what is needed to increase SC2 popularity in Korea.
On August 13 2011 01:38 Antoine wrote: here's the link for the first episode: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/vod/65947 you might have to register a free account to watch it, i'm not sure.
O.O !#@$ it's already out ,wait i just have to download the gom client right to watch it right @@ ? I am really new with the gom sc2 thingy T_T.
i think the in-browser vod player (like this) just requires flash and not the whole gom player shebang, but i could be wrong
by the way forgot to mention this but it comes subbed in english ^^
yeah i know about the sub english anyway thanks for the links man ^^v
well its not word for word translation but damn its so funny.:p
I agree they are funny but if only gom translated it word by word the show would have been more enjoyable despite saying that I want to keep watching yellow journey I really do hope the outcome will be yellow making the gsl code A i don't want the same fate like old boy to happen again not good for my heart i guess TT.
I only recently finished watching Old Boy which is such a great series so Project A couldn't have come out at a better time. I enjoyed the show so far, especially since it's taking the humour route.
On August 13 2011 03:06 _Quasar_ wrote: I couldn't make myself even watch Boxer vs Yellow showmatch, doubt I'll follow this (and its even code A not code S).
The 2nd game was pretty good. YellOW is obviously not on the same level as BoxeR, but he catches him a little off guard in game 2 with a BW strategy using Roaches (fast Hydra drop). I think it will be fun just to see him try and become a good Sc2 Progamer in only a month, will at least be pretty funny, and interesting.
ah, that was one of the reasons... I mean wtf Yellow new to SC2 and Boxer playing it for like 1 year? I thought this match was a bit unfair given the gap between the experience levels of players.
I agree, I do appreciate what Gom attempted to do there however it wasn't a showmatch so much as a humiliation
watched the first project A episode. i have never been more excited for something sc2 related (the only thing gaming-related was effort's return). yellow is truly an inspiration for everyone. i hope he can steamroll people in sc2 like he did in bw, but this time, win. ^^
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
!ZERGBONG!
look at this classic footage: how is he gonna help Yellow?
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
Actually Zergbong was pretty bad when he started SC2. Really, really bad. Then suddenly, somehow, within a month he got a lot better, won a GSL and started showing good performance. So don't worry, the level in SC2 is not that bad. Zergbong just improved by a ton and has an insane ZvZ winrate - in a matchup which assumedly is very luck-based.
Nestea (zergbong) has uncanny winrates as Zerg, especially in ZvP (86.96%) and ZvZ (92.00%). So yeah, we can conclude that either he's not the real zergbong, either there's something wrong with the competition. Also don't listen to people who say sc2 ZvZ is a coinflip. That's not the case.
ps: Yellow FIGHTING ! The first episode was hilarious.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
!ZERGBONG!
look at this classic footage: how is he gonna help Yellow?
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
!ZERGBONG!
look at this classic footage: how is he gonna help Yellow?
And yet he is smashing people who were better than him in Brood War. Perhaps it's actually just, and stay with me here it's gonna get crazy, a different game?
On August 13 2011 23:22 AlBundy wrote: Nestea (zergbong) has uncanny winrates as Zerg, especially in ZvP (86.96%) and ZvZ (92.00%). So yeah, we can conclude that either he's not the real zergbong, either there's something wrong with the competition. Also don't listen to people who say sc2 ZvZ is a coinflip. That's not the case.
ps: Yellow FIGHTING ! The first episode was hilarious.
It's a coinflip in the sense that your bo determines whether you have the upper hand in the early-midgame; other than that, as long as you dont make huge micro mistakes it's pretty okay
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
!ZERGBONG!
look at this classic footage: how is he gonna help Yellow?
And yet he is smashing people who were better than him in Brood War. Perhaps it's actually just, and stay with me here it's gonna get crazy, a different game?
lol a load of BW no names and has beens are fighting it out for some mickey mouse SC2 competitions, SC2 is nothing more then a money making exercise for horrible BW players, deal with it.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
!ZERGBONG!
look at this classic footage: how is he gonna help Yellow?
And yet he is smashing people who were better than him in Brood War. Perhaps it's actually just, and stay with me here it's gonna get crazy, a different game?
lol a load of BW no names and has beens are fighting it out for some mickey mouse SC2 competitions, SC2 is nothing more then a money making exercise for horrible BW players, deal with it.
why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
On August 13 2011 23:20 ShadeR wrote: Don't really have a problem with this being posted here. I love yellow too much. I have a bad feeling about the thread though... =S
Mod's has to allow this thread to live because in the sc2 section everyone is like omg yellow is coming to sc2 and bleh .... they don't know much about the history of yellow . We BW fans cARE About our veterans so that's why these is very relevant for us !!!!!!!!!
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
But it's a poll for who's the best coach, of course by Yellow's criteria they all would do, they probably think that the best coach for yellow would be one that's the best at playing the race yellow plays, and Zergbong has previous coaching/captain experience, so isn't he an obvious choice?
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
But it's a poll for who's the best coach, of course by Yellow's criteria they all would do, they probably think that the best coach for yellow would be one that's the best at playing the race yellow plays, and Zergbong has previous coaching/captain experience, so isn't he an obvious choice?
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
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On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
!ZERGBONG!
look at this classic footage: how is he gonna help Yellow?
And yet he is smashing people who were better than him in Brood War. Perhaps it's actually just, and stay with me here it's gonna get crazy, a different game?
lol a load of BW no names and has beens are fighting it out for some mickey mouse SC2 competitions, SC2 is nothing more then a money making exercise for horrible BW players, deal with it.
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On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
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On August 14 2011 00:05 shannn wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:59 Sawamura wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:57 Shikyo wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
now if only gom decides to translate their conversation word by word I swear i will be the happiest person on earth XD !!!!
QUOTE]On August 14 2011 00:34 snajper wrote: FIX THE OP.
NESTEA WAS NEVER SUGGESTED AS A COACH!!
THE ONLY ZERGs THAT THERE WERE ARE THEWIND AND JULY!!!!!!!!
MODS FIX THE OP.[/QUOTE]
I add nestea on the basis that who will be the better coach :D :D :D so it's still legible that nestea will be coming to judge yellow's skill in sc2 so why must i change the poll .
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On August 14 2011 00:05 shannn wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:59 Sawamura wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:57 Shikyo wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
now if only gom decides to translate their conversation word by word I swear i will be the happiest person on earth XD !!!!
QUOTE]On August 14 2011 00:34 snajper wrote: FIX THE OP.
NESTEA WAS NEVER SUGGESTED AS A COACH!!
THE ONLY ZERGs THAT THERE WERE ARE THEWIND AND JULY!!!!!!!!
MODS FIX THE OP.
I add nestea on the basis that who will be the better coach :D :D :D so it's still legible that nestea will be coming to judge yellow's skill in sc2 so why must i change the poll
On August 14 2011 00:05 Black[CAT] wrote: Ah~the show sounds good and I want to watch right now but I cant coz of assignments... >.< Why did I had to surf TL while doing assignments...
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On August 14 2011 00:05 shannn wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:59 Sawamura wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:57 Shikyo wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
now if only gom decides to translate their conversation word by word I swear i will be the happiest person on earth XD !!!!
QUOTE]On August 14 2011 00:34 snajper wrote: FIX THE OP.
NESTEA WAS NEVER SUGGESTED AS A COACH!!
THE ONLY ZERGs THAT THERE WERE ARE THEWIND AND JULY!!!!!!!!
MODS FIX THE OP.
I add nestea on the basis that who will be the better coach :D :D :D so it's still legible that nestea will be coming to judge yellow's skill in sc2 so why must i change the poll .
The thing is that he wasn't considered.
You are confusing everybody. [/QUOTE]
I am not you will never know nestea will be coming to coach yellow too ^^ so no changes to the poll. You saw the preview to the second episode ? that could be nestea man .
On August 14 2011 00:05 Black[CAT] wrote: Ah~the show sounds good and I want to watch right now but I cant coz of assignments... >.< Why did I had to surf TL while doing assignments...
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On August 14 2011 00:05 shannn wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:59 Sawamura wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:57 Shikyo wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
now if only gom decides to translate their conversation word by word I swear i will be the happiest person on earth XD !!!!
QUOTE]On August 14 2011 00:34 snajper wrote: FIX THE OP.
NESTEA WAS NEVER SUGGESTED AS A COACH!!
THE ONLY ZERGs THAT THERE WERE ARE THEWIND AND JULY!!!!!!!!
MODS FIX THE OP.
I add nestea on the basis that who will be the better coach :D :D :D so it's still legible that nestea will be coming to judge yellow's skill in sc2 so why must i change the poll .
The thing is that he wasn't considered.
You are confusing everybody.
I am not you will never know nestea will be coming to coach yellow too ^^ so no changes to the poll. [/QUOTE]
Did you see him getting considered in last EP.?
I watched it twice and I didn't see him EVEN ONCE in the video.
So I have no fuc**** idea what you are talking about.
On August 14 2011 00:05 Black[CAT] wrote: Ah~the show sounds good and I want to watch right now but I cant coz of assignments... >.< Why did I had to surf TL while doing assignments...
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On August 14 2011 00:05 shannn wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:59 Sawamura wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:57 Shikyo wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:52 Sawamura wrote: why no love for boxer T_T at least we will have lots of funny moments of boxer mentoring yellow how to do the SBB (Supply barrack barrack ) and Nestea is bonjwa in sc2 so i guess that's why everyone voted him to be the coach for yellow .
Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
now if only gom decides to translate their conversation word by word I swear i will be the happiest person on earth XD !!!!
QUOTE]On August 14 2011 00:34 snajper wrote: FIX THE OP.
NESTEA WAS NEVER SUGGESTED AS A COACH!!
THE ONLY ZERGs THAT THERE WERE ARE THEWIND AND JULY!!!!!!!!
MODS FIX THE OP.
I add nestea on the basis that who will be the better coach :D :D :D so it's still legible that nestea will be coming to judge yellow's skill in sc2 so why must i change the poll .
The thing is that he wasn't considered.
You are confusing everybody.
I am not you will never know nestea will be coming to coach yellow too ^^ so no changes to the poll.
Did you see him getting considered in last EP.?
I watched it twice and I didn't see him EVEN ONCE in the video.
So I have no fuc**** idea what you are talking about.
That was TheWind.[/QUOTE]
It's not about whether he is considered or not it could be nestea and until episode 2 is release i am holding my decision to leave the poll as it is .
On August 14 2011 00:05 Black[CAT] wrote: Ah~the show sounds good and I want to watch right now but I cant coz of assignments... >.< Why did I had to surf TL while doing assignments...
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On August 14 2011 00:05 shannn wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:59 Sawamura wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:57 Shikyo wrote: [quote] Because Boxer is T Yellow is Z, perhaps?
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
now if only gom decides to translate their conversation word by word I swear i will be the happiest person on earth XD !!!!
QUOTE]On August 14 2011 00:34 snajper wrote: FIX THE OP.
NESTEA WAS NEVER SUGGESTED AS A COACH!!
THE ONLY ZERGs THAT THERE WERE ARE THEWIND AND JULY!!!!!!!!
MODS FIX THE OP.
I add nestea on the basis that who will be the better coach :D :D :D so it's still legible that nestea will be coming to judge yellow's skill in sc2 so why must i change the poll .
The thing is that he wasn't considered.
You are confusing everybody.
I am not you will never know nestea will be coming to coach yellow too ^^ so no changes to the poll.
Did you see him getting considered in last EP.?
I watched it twice and I didn't see him EVEN ONCE in the video.
So I have no fuc**** idea what you are talking about.
That was TheWind.
It's not about whether he is considered or not it could be nestea and until episode 2 is release i am holding my decision to leave the poll as it is .[/QUOTE]
I have no idea what you are doing. You made this poll with no knowledge what so ever. You confusing people right and left, but hey, its your poll i guess.
On August 14 2011 00:05 Black[CAT] wrote: Ah~the show sounds good and I want to watch right now but I cant coz of assignments... >.< Why did I had to surf TL while doing assignments...
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On August 14 2011 00:05 shannn wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:59 Sawamura wrote: [quote]
Well if you watch project A yellow say that it doesn't matter what race the coach is as long he coach through him mentally which is important for yellow in terms of getting through the game and screwing yellow up if he falters his game .
Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
now if only gom decides to translate their conversation word by word I swear i will be the happiest person on earth XD !!!!
QUOTE]On August 14 2011 00:34 snajper wrote: FIX THE OP.
NESTEA WAS NEVER SUGGESTED AS A COACH!!
THE ONLY ZERGs THAT THERE WERE ARE THEWIND AND JULY!!!!!!!!
MODS FIX THE OP.
I add nestea on the basis that who will be the better coach :D :D :D so it's still legible that nestea will be coming to judge yellow's skill in sc2 so why must i change the poll .
The thing is that he wasn't considered.
You are confusing everybody.
I am not you will never know nestea will be coming to coach yellow too ^^ so no changes to the poll.
Did you see him getting considered in last EP.?
I watched it twice and I didn't see him EVEN ONCE in the video.
So I have no fuc**** idea what you are talking about.
That was TheWind.
It's not about whether he is considered or not it could be nestea and until episode 2 is release i am holding my decision to leave the poll as it is .
I have no idea what you are doing. You made this poll with no knowledge what so ever. You confusing people right and left, but hey, its your poll i guess. [/QUOTE]
So i guess you are the producer of Project A than knowing that guy could be the wind and not be a guest coach for yellow ? that's some word man . It's just a damn poll and you are going to get prick off over that I am not changing at all because the question still remains the same Which will be the BETTER coach for yellow . Which nestea could be in or could be not in the whole program and the idea of the poll was whether to Gage among the the previous broodwar players who will be the better coach for yellow and zergbong was voted the most .
On August 14 2011 00:05 Black[CAT] wrote: Ah~the show sounds good and I want to watch right now but I cant coz of assignments... >.< Why did I had to surf TL while doing assignments...
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On August 14 2011 00:05 shannn wrote: [quote] Exactly what his new coach is going to be like seeing the preview of episode 2
Just saying he sucks :D
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
now if only gom decides to translate their conversation word by word I swear i will be the happiest person on earth XD !!!!
QUOTE]On August 14 2011 00:34 snajper wrote: FIX THE OP.
NESTEA WAS NEVER SUGGESTED AS A COACH!!
THE ONLY ZERGs THAT THERE WERE ARE THEWIND AND JULY!!!!!!!!
MODS FIX THE OP.
I add nestea on the basis that who will be the better coach :D :D :D so it's still legible that nestea will be coming to judge yellow's skill in sc2 so why must i change the poll .
The thing is that he wasn't considered.
You are confusing everybody.
I am not you will never know nestea will be coming to coach yellow too ^^ so no changes to the poll.
Did you see him getting considered in last EP.?
I watched it twice and I didn't see him EVEN ONCE in the video.
So I have no fuc**** idea what you are talking about.
That was TheWind.
It's not about whether he is considered or not it could be nestea and until episode 2 is release i am holding my decision to leave the poll as it is .
I have no idea what you are doing. You made this poll with no knowledge what so ever. You confusing people right and left, but hey, its your poll i guess.
So i guess you are the producer of Project A than knowing that guy could be the wind and not be a guest coach for yellow ? that's some word man . It's just a damn poll and you are going to get prick off over that I am not changing at all because the question still remains the same Which will be the BETTER coach for yellow . Which nestea could be in or could be not in the whole program and the idea of the poll was whether to Gage among the the previous broodwar players who will be the better coach for yellow and zergbong was voted the most . [/QUOTE]
I don't have to be a producer of Project A.
I simply watched the episode, in which Nestea wasn't mentioned as a Coach once.
Edit : I NEED MORE links to yellow photo can anyone give me @@
[quote]
Come on it's a new game TT yellow still adjusting to it
I know it's just funny that the coach just honestly would say that in front of Yellow :D Although he is older I thought atleast show some respect to the guy and bring it lightly It definitely reminds me of Oldboy episode 1 in which all the progamers judge his skills xD
now if only gom decides to translate their conversation word by word I swear i will be the happiest person on earth XD !!!!
QUOTE]On August 14 2011 00:34 snajper wrote: FIX THE OP.
NESTEA WAS NEVER SUGGESTED AS A COACH!!
THE ONLY ZERGs THAT THERE WERE ARE THEWIND AND JULY!!!!!!!!
MODS FIX THE OP.
I add nestea on the basis that who will be the better coach :D :D :D so it's still legible that nestea will be coming to judge yellow's skill in sc2 so why must i change the poll .
The thing is that he wasn't considered.
You are confusing everybody.
I am not you will never know nestea will be coming to coach yellow too ^^ so no changes to the poll.
Did you see him getting considered in last EP.?
I watched it twice and I didn't see him EVEN ONCE in the video.
So I have no fuc**** idea what you are talking about.
That was TheWind.
It's not about whether he is considered or not it could be nestea and until episode 2 is release i am holding my decision to leave the poll as it is .
I have no idea what you are doing. You made this poll with no knowledge what so ever. You confusing people right and left, but hey, its your poll i guess.
So i guess you are the producer of Project A than knowing that guy could be the wind and not be a guest coach for yellow ? that's some word man . It's just a damn poll and you are going to get prick off over that I am not changing at all because the question still remains the same Which will be the BETTER coach for yellow . Which nestea could be in or could be not in the whole program and the idea of the poll was whether to Gage among the the previous broodwar players who will be the better coach for yellow and zergbong was voted the most .
I don't have to be a producer of Project A.
I simply watched the episode, in which Nestea wasn't mentioned as a Coach once.
That was enough for me. [/QUOTE]
So you have your reason to come into your conclusion that doesn't mean nestea can't be making as surprised appearance and probably coach yellow . After all who is better to give a lesson or two about the race to yellow the wind seriously ? lol Lets see the wind retired code S player while zergbong who has 3 title of gsl code s under his belt who would have been the better the coach ? Obviously it's nestea after all yellow and zergbong go way back during broodwar it wouldn't kill him to help his former team mate don't you think ?.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
July got close :< (runner up two a now two time winner) And NaDa is easily one of the most consistent players!
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
I just found out about Nal_Ra oldboy a few weeks ago, and now this!?! I'm sooo excited, this is going to be soooo awesome! YELLOOWWW HONGJINHO STORMZERG GOGOGO!!!!
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
edit: omg 999th post!
NaDa is probably the most consistent player in the GSL, constantly churning up great results, even with little practice. A strong contender to win this upcoming GSL too, I wouldn't be surprised if he reaches a final by the end of this year.
On August 14 2011 05:20 xMiragex wrote: yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started.
YellOw was doing decent the year previous to the end of his bw career. His last year (once returning to KT) he did not produce good results, but he also transitioned from a player to a TV host/entertainer. This past year he did Hyungjun's show on mbc and made many appearances guest hosting on OGN. I doubt YellOw has many serious aspirations of making it big on sc2, and if he is indeed interested in moving on to entertainment (as Shark did), this project makes sense.
Zerg player: Pick zerg yellow! It's the best race and it suits your style in sc2! Terran player: Pick terran Yellow! Otherwise Boxer will join all of your games and bunker you! It's the best race! Protoss player: Pick Pro... ehh... yeah pick Terran fuckit.
As entertaining as Project A was, I thought that it was kind of... distracted. Haha. I really loved the idea but I wanted to see YellOw really start playing the game, not just sit in a room, make a race selection we all knew were coming and make jokes.
I hope the upcoming episodes focus more on the actual training and reflects whether YellOw is taking this as seriously as I'd love for him to be.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
I simply watched the episode, in which Nestea wasn't mentioned as a Coach once.
That was enough for me.
sigh.
if you've really watched the episode, in the end, the preview for next week's ep, you'll see two blurred guys, one of them was a bigger guy sitting next to a smaller guy in the hotel room wearing a black shirt. IM (nestea's team) wears black, and there aren't that many big dudes playing zerg in the gsl right now. it's pretty obvious that he is nestea. and thewind was mentioned as being yellow's choice for "manager".
Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
TBH nobody does. Progamers and casters, it's just a source of income now the passion is close to nonexistent...Relative to BW that is. I'm unfamiliar with AOE, WC3, CnC.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
You honestly think that was serious and not a bunch of joking around?
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
They were kidding -_-; i mean if i say vulture only cost 75 mineral, are the fastest unit in the game, and have 3 littl nuke for free, the reaver can kill 1 mineral line with one shot, defiler can do darkswarm...
that look imbe even if the game is perfectly balance
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
TBH nobody does. Progamers and casters, it's just a source of income now the passion is close to nonexistent...Relative to BW that is. I'm unfamiliar with AOE, WC3, CnC.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
They were kidding -_-; i mean if i say vulture only cost 75 mineral, are the fastest unit in the game, and have 3 littl nuke for free, the reaver can kill 1 mineral line with one shot, defiler can do darkswarm...
that look imbe even if the game is perfectly balance
Calling vultures that have 3 nukes is making it imba ? lol they are so cheap that they are made out of paper armour since when 3 nukes are able to kill all the units in one area ? It's never meant to be an AOE like a nuke from a ghost it's anti personal mine except it does a little AoE in the area that it explodes . I don't see it imba at all but in sc2 i see lots of imba stuff archons ,hellions that kill drones like a lurker are really imba in my opinion . However fastest unit that are very fragile are quite weak to me next lets go to reaver oh right it can kill 1 mineral line if the scarabs weren't bug so not imba at all and defilers ? lol darkswarm ? i can just move out of the way and irradiate that defiler . Defiler problem ? no more .
Don't want to go further as these will probably lead to this thread to close keep the sc2 v bw discussion out of this .
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
They were kidding -_-; i mean if i say vulture only cost 75 mineral, are the fastest unit in the game, and have 3 littl nuke for free, the reaver can kill 1 mineral line with one shot, defiler can do darkswarm...
that look imbe even if the game is perfectly balance
Calling vultures that have 3 nukes is making it imba ? lol they are so cheap that they are made out of paper armour since when 3 nukes are able to kill all the units in one area ? It's never meant to be an AOE like a nuke from a ghost it's anti personal mine except it does a little AoE in the area that it explodes . I don't see it imba at all but in sc2 i see lots of imba stuff archons ,hellions that kill drones like a lurker are really imba in my opinion . However fastest unit that are very fragile are quite weak to me next lets go to reaver oh right it can kill 1 mineral line if the scarabs weren't bug so not imba at all and defilers ? lol darkswarm ? i can just move out of the way and irradiate that defiler . Defiler problem ? no more .
Don't want to go further as these will probably lead to this thread to close keep the sc2 v bw discussion out of this .
I don't normally do this, but this shouldn't be allowed to just let slide.
With people like you posting in this thread, perhaps it shouldn't remain open. You take secondhand, simplistic, obviously comedic explanations of how SC2 works at face value, demonstrating that you obviously have no knowledge at all of SC2, and *you* start the BW vs SC2 discussion all on your own, then you come back and once again with your complete lack of knowledge claim to know anything at all about the balance of a game which you obviously do not play and therefore do not understand, proceed to extol the virtues of BW by comparison, and then say that this game vs. that game discussions should be kept out of the thread. All you managed to do was make yourself look both ignorant and hypocritical. You want to keep this thread from closing? Stop posting in it.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
They were kidding -_-; i mean if i say vulture only cost 75 mineral, are the fastest unit in the game, and have 3 littl nuke for free, the reaver can kill 1 mineral line with one shot, defiler can do darkswarm...
that look imbe even if the game is perfectly balance
Calling vultures that have 3 nukes is making it imba ? lol they are so cheap that they are made out of paper armour since when 3 nukes are able to kill all the units in one area ? It's never meant to be an AOE like a nuke from a ghost it's anti personal mine except it does a little AoE in the area that it explodes . I don't see it imba at all but in sc2 i see lots of imba stuff archons ,hellions that kill drones like a lurker are really imba in my opinion . However fastest unit that are very fragile are quite weak to me next lets go to reaver oh right it can kill 1 mineral line if the scarabs weren't bug so not imba at all and defilers ? lol darkswarm ? i can just move out of the way and irradiate that defiler . Defiler problem ? no more .
Don't want to go further as these will probably lead to this thread to close keep the sc2 v bw discussion out of this .
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
They were kidding -_-; i mean if i say vulture only cost 75 mineral, are the fastest unit in the game, and have 3 littl nuke for free, the reaver can kill 1 mineral line with one shot, defiler can do darkswarm...
that look imbe even if the game is perfectly balance
Calling vultures that have 3 nukes is making it imba ? lol they are so cheap that they are made out of paper armour since when 3 nukes are able to kill all the units in one area ? It's never meant to be an AOE like a nuke from a ghost it's anti personal mine except it does a little AoE in the area that it explodes . I don't see it imba at all but in sc2 i see lots of imba stuff archons ,hellions that kill drones like a lurker are really imba in my opinion . However fastest unit that are very fragile are quite weak to me next lets go to reaver oh right it can kill 1 mineral line if the scarabs weren't bug so not imba at all and defilers ? lol darkswarm ? i can just move out of the way and irradiate that defiler . Defiler problem ? no more .
Don't want to go further as these will probably lead to this thread to close keep the sc2 v bw discussion out of this .
I don't normally do this, but this shouldn't be allowed to just let slide.
With people like you posting in this thread, perhaps it shouldn't remain open. You take secondhand, simplistic, obviously comedic explanations of how SC2 works at face value, demonstrating that you obviously have no knowledge at all of SC2, and *you* start the BW vs SC2 discussion all on your own, then you come back and once again with your complete lack of knowledge claim to know anything at all about the balance of a game which you obviously do not play and therefore do not understand, proceed to extol the virtues of BW by comparison, and then say that this game vs. that game discussions should be kept out of the thread. All you managed to do was make yourself look both ignorant and hypocritical. You want to keep this thread from closing? Stop posting in it.
Nothing to do with sc2 vs bw discussion i was just getting his facts straight you call bw units imba when they are to us bw units some expandable units that get the job done when micro properly and on the other hand whose the guy inciting sc2 hate now you are clearly doing it now and now you are calling me an ignorant of sc2 lol I watch and play sc2 and I just can't get used to it despite it being the esport of the century . Stop posting ? It's a thread it's mean to discuss on topic and not derail by post like this you probably should stop posting too after all i am going to start reporting any more discussions like this .
Edit : By the way check your post no history of bw at all I can understand why the lack of knowledge you have in bw too .
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
They were kidding -_-; i mean if i say vulture only cost 75 mineral, are the fastest unit in the game, and have 3 littl nuke for free, the reaver can kill 1 mineral line with one shot, defiler can do darkswarm...
that look imbe even if the game is perfectly balance
Calling vultures that have 3 nukes is making it imba ? lol they are so cheap that they are made out of paper armour since when 3 nukes are able to kill all the units in one area ? It's never meant to be an AOE like a nuke from a ghost it's anti personal mine except it does a little AoE in the area that it explodes . I don't see it imba at all but in sc2 i see lots of imba stuff archons ,hellions that kill drones like a lurker are really imba in my opinion . However fastest unit that are very fragile are quite weak to me next lets go to reaver oh right it can kill 1 mineral line if the scarabs weren't bug so not imba at all and defilers ? lol darkswarm ? i can just move out of the way and irradiate that defiler . Defiler problem ? no more .
Don't want to go further as these will probably lead to this thread to close keep the sc2 v bw discussion out of this .
I don't normally do this, but this shouldn't be allowed to just let slide.
With people like you posting in this thread, perhaps it shouldn't remain open. You take secondhand, simplistic, obviously comedic explanations of how SC2 works at face value, demonstrating that you obviously have no knowledge at all of SC2, and *you* start the BW vs SC2 discussion all on your own, then you come back and once again with your complete lack of knowledge claim to know anything at all about the balance of a game which you obviously do not play and therefore do not understand, proceed to extol the virtues of BW by comparison, and then say that this game vs. that game discussions should be kept out of the thread. All you managed to do was make yourself look both ignorant and hypocritical. You want to keep this thread from closing? Stop posting in it.
Nothing to do with sc2 vs bw discussion i was just getting his facts straight you call bw units imba when they are to us bw units some expandable units that get the job done when micro properly and on the other hand whose the guy inciting sc2 hate now you are clearly doing it now and now you are calling me an ignorant of sc2 lol I watch and play sc2 and I just can't get used to it despite it being the esport of the century . Stop posting ? It's a thread it's mean to discuss on topic and not derail by post like this you probably should stop posting too after all i am going to start reporting any more discussions like this .
Look at BlackCats post.
Then Stolives post replying to it.
Please don't let the whole thing completely fly over your head. This nest was about how the Korean casters for GSL described the game which was intended to be in a comical fashion, as that is the grain of the show. The same can be done with any game.
Why attack a person merely trying to tell you the nature of the statement?
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
They were kidding -_-; i mean if i say vulture only cost 75 mineral, are the fastest unit in the game, and have 3 littl nuke for free, the reaver can kill 1 mineral line with one shot, defiler can do darkswarm...
that look imbe even if the game is perfectly balance
Calling vultures that have 3 nukes is making it imba ? lol they are so cheap that they are made out of paper armour since when 3 nukes are able to kill all the units in one area ? It's never meant to be an AOE like a nuke from a ghost it's anti personal mine except it does a little AoE in the area that it explodes . I don't see it imba at all but in sc2 i see lots of imba stuff archons ,hellions that kill drones like a lurker are really imba in my opinion . However fastest unit that are very fragile are quite weak to me next lets go to reaver oh right it can kill 1 mineral line if the scarabs weren't bug so not imba at all and defilers ? lol darkswarm ? i can just move out of the way and irradiate that defiler . Defiler problem ? no more .
Don't want to go further as these will probably lead to this thread to close keep the sc2 v bw discussion out of this .
I don't normally do this, but this shouldn't be allowed to just let slide.
With people like you posting in this thread, perhaps it shouldn't remain open. You take secondhand, simplistic, obviously comedic explanations of how SC2 works at face value, demonstrating that you obviously have no knowledge at all of SC2, and *you* start the BW vs SC2 discussion all on your own, then you come back and once again with your complete lack of knowledge claim to know anything at all about the balance of a game which you obviously do not play and therefore do not understand, proceed to extol the virtues of BW by comparison, and then say that this game vs. that game discussions should be kept out of the thread. All you managed to do was make yourself look both ignorant and hypocritical. You want to keep this thread from closing? Stop posting in it.
Nothing to do with sc2 vs bw discussion i was just getting his facts straight you call bw units imba when they are to us bw units some expandable units that get the job done when micro properly and on the other hand whose the guy inciting sc2 hate now you are clearly doing it now and now you are calling me an ignorant of sc2 lol I watch and play sc2 and I just can't get used to it despite it being the esport of the century . Stop posting ? It's a thread it's mean to discuss on topic and not derail by post like this you probably should stop posting too after all i am going to start reporting any more discussions like this .
Look at BlackCats post.
Then Stolives post replying to it.
Please don't let the whole thing completely fly over your head. This nest was about how the Korean casters for GSL described the game which was intended to be in a comical fashion, as that is the grain of the show. The same can be done with any game.
Why attack a person merely trying to tell you the nature of the statement?
I am not attacking or anything I just want you guys to know that 3 nukes that vulture's carrying it the armour of vultures aren't actually made of terminator alloy that can't be broken at all and i admit i went overboard with my comments my apology . Yeah the commentators were actually joking around about the sc2 race obviously it isn't that simple no harm done .
Personally it's reasonable that blackcat came into that conclusion that sc2 was shallow but the show made it out in that sense that it will be comical and not so over detail although in reality there's lots of stuff in the race they could have gone in to detail but not so . So in other words just let it go it's probably his opinion and does not represent all the opinions in broodwar forum okay ?
On August 14 2011 14:49 Sawamura wrote: Edit : By the way check your post no history of bw at all I can understand why the lack of knowledge you have in bw too .
I've been playing BW since 2001. It's probably my favorite game of all time. I've never player it competitively but it has always been and remains one of my favorite hobbies. I've just never followed the pro scene and so I don't have much reason to peruse the BW boards. I just happened to catch this thread on the website's sidebar and decided to read up on it. As for the remainder of this little spat, I'll agree to let it drop and say simply that I wish Yellow success in this endeavor.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
They were kidding -_-; i mean if i say vulture only cost 75 mineral, are the fastest unit in the game, and have 3 littl nuke for free, the reaver can kill 1 mineral line with one shot, defiler can do darkswarm...
that look imbe even if the game is perfectly balance
Calling vultures that have 3 nukes is making it imba ? lol they are so cheap that they are made out of paper armour since when 3 nukes are able to kill all the units in one area ? It's never meant to be an AOE like a nuke from a ghost it's anti personal mine except it does a little AoE in the area that it explodes . I don't see it imba at all but in sc2 i see lots of imba stuff archons ,hellions that kill drones like a lurker are really imba in my opinion . However fastest unit that are very fragile are quite weak to me next lets go to reaver oh right it can kill 1 mineral line if the scarabs weren't bug so not imba at all and defilers ? lol darkswarm ? i can just move out of the way and irradiate that defiler . Defiler problem ? no more .
Don't want to go further as these will probably lead to this thread to close keep the sc2 v bw discussion out of this .
Factious. Look it up in the dictionary
Atleast spell it properly man :/
But really, why so serious? My cheeks are hurting from all the laughing. I love how they spend the entire terran overview saying terran is imba lol
Edit: Professor Park: PvP - Practice 10 games a day, only 4 gate for 2 weeks = insta code A hahahaha YelloW: 4 gate??
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
TBH nobody does. Progamers and casters, it's just a source of income now the passion is close to nonexistent...Relative to BW that is. I'm unfamiliar with AOE, WC3, CnC.
Plenty of players still have passion for the game and their fans. Perhaps you believe they're so shallow all they want is the money. The mere existence of B-Teamers invalidates your point. They don't get paid jack, but they play and practice the game just as much as A-Teamers.
Not to sidetrack the topic, but why so many of you BW guys all hate SC2 so much? It's a game in it's infancy, so you need to give the game some time for new micro-intensive units to be released for all the races, and I know blizzard's new CEO is money-grubbing, so there's no LAN, but do you have to bash it so early?7
I can't see why people talk of "disgracing" the BW community by starting to play a game that it seems yellow could end up being really good at, considering his mechanics in BW which fit zerg in SC2 perfectly, and could end up making him lots of money in the future. Who knows, he might really enjoy it too!
watched the first episode, its nice, but i don't get the hard working factor that nal_ra's oldboy had, gom seemed to have made it.. a lot more animated so to speak, but its a nice series
On August 14 2011 15:54 dgwow wrote: Not to sidetrack the topic, but why so many of you BW guys all hate SC2 so much? It's a game in it's infancy, so you need to give the game some time for new micro-intensive units to be released for all the races, and I know blizzard's new CEO is money-grubbing, so there's no LAN, but do you have to bash it so early?7
I can't see why people talk of "disgracing" the BW community by starting to play a game that it seems yellow could end up being really good at, considering his mechanics in BW which fit zerg in SC2 perfectly, and could end up making him lots of money in the future. Who knows, he might really enjoy it too!
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
On August 14 2011 15:54 dgwow wrote: Not to sidetrack the topic, but why so many of you BW guys all hate SC2 so much? It's a game in it's infancy, so you need to give the game some time for new micro-intensive units to be released for all the races, and I know blizzard's new CEO is money-grubbing, so there's no LAN, but do you have to bash it so early?7
I can't see why people talk of "disgracing" the BW community by starting to play a game that it seems yellow could end up being really good at, considering his mechanics in BW which fit zerg in SC2 perfectly, and could end up making him lots of money in the future. Who knows, he might really enjoy it too!
you are derailing this thread again .............
Sorry, just wanted a quick answer I don't really go on BW thread much. Anyways I'm exciting to see YellOw's playstyle
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
vultures cost 75 minerals and spider mine upgrades aren't free you know =.=
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
vultures cost 75 minerals and spider mine upgrades aren't free you know =.=
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
When does the og oldboy himself, Nal rA, get out of his military service? It's about time he made the switch to SC2. He would, by default, the only Protoss I could root for. Yellow is a little bit *too* prehistoric for my tastes.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced... I dont think Yellow will have the same passion he had in BW for sc2....
TBH nobody does. Progamers and casters, it's just a source of income now the passion is close to nonexistent...Relative to BW that is. I'm unfamiliar with AOE, WC3, CnC.
Maybe he won't have that much passion (he is getting old for a progamer...), but he said it himself that SC2 resurrected his competitve spirit, what he have not felt for a long time now in BW. Of course not all SC2 pros have passion for the game, but then, why would you think that some BW pros aren't playing for just the money?
On August 14 2011 17:23 ajx.Pylon wrote: When does the og oldboy himself, Nal rA, get out of his military service? It's about time he made the switch to SC2. He would, by default, the only Protoss I could root for. Yellow is a little bit *too* prehistoric for my tastes.
He's unlikely to quit his OGN job for SC2. He might participate in GSL as a part-time thing but his main job will stay as a commentator/tv show host.
On August 14 2011 15:54 dgwow wrote: Not to sidetrack the topic, but why so many of you BW guys all hate SC2 so much? It's a game in it's infancy, so you need to give the game some time for new micro-intensive units to be released for all the races, and I know blizzard's new CEO is money-grubbing, so there's no LAN, but do you have to bash it so early?7
I can't see why people talk of "disgracing" the BW community by starting to play a game that it seems yellow could end up being really good at, considering his mechanics in BW which fit zerg in SC2 perfectly, and could end up making him lots of money in the future. Who knows, he might really enjoy it too!
you are derailing this thread again .............
Sorry, just wanted a quick answer I don't really go on BW thread much. Anyways I'm exciting to see YellOw's playstyle
You want a quick answer to a nonexistent question. As far as i know nobody in this thread has claimed Yellow is "disgracing BW" as you put it, by playing SC2.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
Is it just me or does anyone else think that Leta will spicen things up at group nominations if he ever makes his switch to sc2 and makes it into code S ?
Hmmm gotta visit Nada's body thread to check some Leta pictures out :D:D (no homo LOL)!
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
LOL Leta's contract does NOT end this August. I don't know where pple get all this massive misinformation about BW from but not every BW player's contract ends in August 2011. Just like any other sports, different players sign contracts at different times and no they don't sign 1 year contracts unless they're rookies fresh from the draft and then perhaps they're up for performance evaluation after 1 yr at a pro-team.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
LOL Leta's contract does NOT end this August. I don't know where pple get all this massive misinformation about BW from but not every BW player's contract ends in August 2011. Just like any other sports, different players sign contracts at different times and no they don't sign 1 year contracts unless they're rookies fresh from the draft and then perhaps they're up for performance evaluation after 1 yr at a pro-team.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
LOL Leta's contract does NOT end this August. I don't know where pple get all this massive misinformation about BW from but not every BW player's contract ends in August 2011. Just like any other sports, different players sign contracts at different times and no they don't sign 1 year contracts unless they're rookies fresh from the draft and then perhaps they're up for performance evaluation after 1 yr at a pro-team.
yeah leta just resigned back last year.
And for a big sum. I don't see why it's a big deal that a BW progamer is playing with an SC2 pro. It's neither a big deal nor a bad thing. Progamers from different games getting along is a good thing but it doesn't mean he's switching games.
On August 14 2011 17:23 ajx.Pylon wrote: When does the og oldboy himself, Nal rA, get out of his military service? It's about time he made the switch to SC2. He would, by default, the only Protoss I could root for. Yellow is a little bit *too* prehistoric for my tastes.
He's unlikely to quit his OGN job for SC2. He might participate in GSL as a part-time thing but his main job will stay as a commentator/tv show host.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
On August 14 2011 17:23 ajx.Pylon wrote: When does the og oldboy himself, Nal rA, get out of his military service? It's about time he made the switch to SC2. He would, by default, the only Protoss I could root for. Yellow is a little bit *too* prehistoric for my tastes.
He's unlikely to quit his OGN job for SC2. He might participate in GSL as a part-time thing but his main job will stay as a commentator/tv show host.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
On August 14 2011 20:32 firehand101 wrote: I am from the SC2 community, and i can say that we are all so hyped and pumped to see such a legend come to our game. he will be awesome!
good for you he innovated lots of low eco builds for zerg I hope we will be able to see him transfer some of that brilliance he had during bw and revolutionized sc2 zerg into a powerhouse we shall see can't wait for the next episode .
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
World Rank is a bit weird because a diamond leaguer can have 1200 points and a platinum can have 1500 and there's some guesswork in "conversion rates", especially cross-server
I'm sure that, if he really wanted to, he could get in Code A eventually. But not in 3 weeks. His mechanics don't transfer over "automatically". He has to retrain his mind before he can properly utilize his hands.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
forgg has been in Grandmasters for a few months without any indication of going pro, for instance. I'm sure there are plenty of active BW players who play it just as a game that is fun and don't mention it.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
I would be surprised if any notable BW pros switched. It'd either be old people, or B-teamers who think they could make it big if only X, Y, Z. I don't think Losira played a single televised BW game before switching, nor did MMA, and Puma was a "practice bonjwa" with few results in the booth. No A-teamers are going to switch, especially not established ones like, say, Sea or Fantasy (and whenever I see someone say "Flash in SC2" I'm hurt emotionally and physically). No Letas, either.
My rule of thumb is: "If it's someone I've heard of, he's too big to switch" . Korean SC2 is WAAAAAAAY smaller than BW to the point where it depends on the foreign scene to survive. EG.Puma and our own Liquid'Hero left Korean teams because they felt it'd be more productive to play on foreign teams. The scene is run by SC2Con, which protects the rights of the players for denying them any form of additional income besides the "meat 3 days a week" you get at Startale and prize money. The only people who switched at either old and worthless or so insignificant they could have been murdered while still BW players and there wouldn't even be a thread about it (Quick! What BW team was Losira on?).
And while it's true that SC2's prospects are somewhat bright, it's basically just a log to grab on to next to the waterfall of failure right now. Why would anyone with even enh success in BW make the switch (seriously, NaDa)? It's not an appealing alternative. It's a second chance. An extra life. It's a game for Flash to play when his hands fall off, and he's just kind of feebly wapping away at the keyboard with his wrist stumps, and we watch in shame as he wets himself and wins a GSL.
I mean, for fuck's sake, two separate SC2 teams are sponsored by Korean chicken joints, and another two SC2 teams are sponsored by other SC2 teams (fOu/FXO and MVP/Complexity). SC2Con is boycotting NASL because they can't afford plane tickets. The highest salary in SC2 is 12.5% what Flash makes (31k to 250k). MVP's beds are so close together that they're basically one uberbed for everyone.
No one's going to switch that anyone would miss. iloveoov's butler, maybe.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
Most of them are also friends and stuff. I think Puma was one of Flash's training partners in BW (Artosis called him a "practice bonjwa"). These people know each other.
Edit: I'm not making up the "meat 3 days a week", by the way. Startale actually does that.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
World Rank is a bit weird because a diamond leaguer can have 1200 points and a platinum can have 1500 and there's some guesswork in "conversion rates", especially cross-server
I'm sure that, if he really wanted to, he could get in Code A eventually. But not in 3 weeks. His mechanics don't transfer over "automatically". He has to retrain his mind before he can properly utilize his hands.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
forgg has been in Grandmasters for a few months without any indication of going pro, for instance. I'm sure there are plenty of active BW players who play it just as a game that is fun and don't mention it.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
I would be surprised if any notable BW pros switched. It'd either be old people, or B-teamers who think they could make it big if only X, Y, Z. I don't think Losira played a single televised BW game before switching, nor did MMA, and Puma was a "practice bonjwa" with few results in the booth. No A-teamers are going to switch, especially not established ones like, say, Sea or Fantasy (and whenever I see someone say "Flash in SC2" I'm hurt emotionally and physically). No Letas, either.
My rule of thumb is: "If it's someone I've heard of, he's too big to switch" . Korean SC2 is WAAAAAAAY smaller than BW to the point where it depends on the foreign scene to survive. EG.Puma and our own Liquid'Hero left Korean teams because they felt it'd be more productive to play on foreign teams. The scene is run by SC2Con, which protects the rights of the players for denying them any form of additional income besides the "meat 3 days a week" you get at Startale and prize money. The only people who switched at either old and worthless or so insignificant they could have been murdered while still BW players and there wouldn't even be a thread about it (Quick! What BW team was Losira on?).
And while it's true that SC2's prospects are somewhat bright, it's basically just a log to grab on to next to the waterfall of failure right now. Why would anyone with even enh success in BW make the switch (seriously, NaDa)? It's not an appealing alternative. It's a second chance. An extra life. It's a game for Flash to play when his hands fall off, and he's just kind of feebly wapping away at the keyboard with his wrist stumps, and we watch in shame as he wets himself and wins a GSL.
I mean, for fuck's sake, two separate SC2 teams are sponsored by Korean chicken joints, and another two SC2 teams are sponsored by other SC2 teams (fOu/FXO and MVP/Complexity).
No one's going to switch that anyone would miss. iloveoov's butler, maybe.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
Most of them are also friends and stuff. I think Puma was one of Flash's training partners in BW (Artosis called him a "practice bonjwa"). These people know each other.
Edit: I'm not making up the "meat 3 days a week", by the way. Startale actually does that.
This is a seriously ignorant/ridiculous post masked with a huge wall of text.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
World Rank is a bit weird because a diamond leaguer can have 1200 points and a platinum can have 1500 and there's some guesswork in "conversion rates", especially cross-server
I'm sure that, if he really wanted to, he could get in Code A eventually. But not in 3 weeks. His mechanics don't transfer over "automatically". He has to retrain his mind before he can properly utilize his hands.
On August 14 2011 17:52 Ryo wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:48 Xkalibert wrote: Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
forgg has been in Grandmasters for a few months without any indication of going pro, for instance. I'm sure there are plenty of active BW players who play it just as a game that is fun and don't mention it.
On August 14 2011 17:58 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:52 Ryo wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:48 Xkalibert wrote: Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
I would be surprised if any notable BW pros switched. It'd either be old people, or B-teamers who think they could make it big if only X, Y, Z. I don't think Losira played a single televised BW game before switching, nor did MMA, and Puma was a "practice bonjwa" with few results in the booth. No A-teamers are going to switch, especially not established ones like, say, Sea or Fantasy (and whenever I see someone say "Flash in SC2" I'm hurt emotionally and physically). No Letas, either.
My rule of thumb is: "If it's someone I've heard of, he's too big to switch" . Korean SC2 is WAAAAAAAY smaller than BW to the point where it depends on the foreign scene to survive. EG.Puma and our own Liquid'Hero left Korean teams because they felt it'd be more productive to play on foreign teams. The scene is run by SC2Con, which protects the rights of the players for denying them any form of additional income besides the "meat 3 days a week" you get at Startale and prize money. The only people who switched at either old and worthless or so insignificant they could have been murdered while still BW players and there wouldn't even be a thread about it (Quick! What BW team was Losira on?).
And while it's true that SC2's prospects are somewhat bright, it's basically just a log to grab on to next to the waterfall of failure right now. Why would anyone with even enh success in BW make the switch (seriously, NaDa)? It's not an appealing alternative. It's a second chance. An extra life. It's a game for Flash to play when his hands fall off, and he's just kind of feebly wapping away at the keyboard with his wrist stumps, and we watch in shame as he wets himself and wins a GSL.
I mean, for fuck's sake, two separate SC2 teams are sponsored by Korean chicken joints, and another two SC2 teams are sponsored by other SC2 teams (fOu/FXO and MVP/Complexity).
No one's going to switch that anyone would miss. iloveoov's butler, maybe.
On August 14 2011 19:14 Dakkas wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:52 Ryo wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:48 Xkalibert wrote: Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
Most of them are also friends and stuff. I think Puma was one of Flash's training partners in BW (Artosis called him a "practice bonjwa"). These people know each other.
Edit: I'm not making up the "meat 3 days a week", by the way. Startale actually does that.
This is a seriously ignorant/ridiculous post masked with a huge wall of text.
It was reaffirmed by your iccup/ladder stats.
What does my ICCUP rank have to do with anything? I'm not saying SC2 is a bad game, I'm saying SC2 teams ain't gots no dollahs. Which is true, and they like to mention it. If I was factually wrong, please correct me.
Are you referring to my statement that Yellow's mechanics don't transfer over "automatically"? I don't think anyone seriously believes that even Flash could boot up SC2 for the first time ever and beat Nestea in a Bo7 right away. There's a lag time. I think it's more than three weeks, is all.
I seriously don't understand why my ICCUP rank is relevant. I'm not even talking about the game itself.
On August 14 2011 21:28 Ribbon wrote: The only people who switched at either old and worthless or so insignificant they could have been murdered while still BW players and there wouldn't even be a thread about it (Quick! What BW team was Losira on?).
Thunder was on Hwaseung Oz, but then again I'm a bit of a nerd. And to your other point, MVP is kind of the exception to the rule because while he wasn't really good (as in, he was never going to compete for anything), he was good enough (or mediocre enough) to at least keep up a 40% winrate. Especially near the end of his BW career
I'm pretty sad about how the Yellow situation turned out. I don't understand why KT didn't play him, Yellow wasn't doing half bad on Ace, he was certainly doing better than a lot of the KT zergs were.
I think no playtime is an awful big part of why he left BW.
On August 15 2011 00:10 revy wrote: I'm pretty sad about how the Yellow situation turned out. I don't understand why KT didn't play him, Yellow wasn't doing half bad on Ace, he was certainly doing better than a lot of the KT zergs were.
I think no playtime is an awful big part of why he left BW.
Well the thing is after getting back to kt he was asked to join hyungjoon program and because of that i think his practice time was decreased due to the need of the show hence that's probably the reason why kt didn't field him in proleague games .
On August 15 2011 00:10 revy wrote: I'm pretty sad about how the Yellow situation turned out. I don't understand why KT didn't play him, Yellow wasn't doing half bad on Ace, he was certainly doing better than a lot of the KT zergs were.
I think no playtime is an awful big part of why he left BW.
I can only guess that he probably didn't do so well in in-house games. I remember Flash (or someone else from KT) praising Hoejja and mentioning in an interview how well he did in their practice games.
honestly, who didn't expect yellow to switch? there was far too much hype for him not to. it was smart that everyone downplayed it as much as they did, given the high profile of the situation.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
World Rank is a bit weird because a diamond leaguer can have 1200 points and a platinum can have 1500 and there's some guesswork in "conversion rates", especially cross-server
I'm sure that, if he really wanted to, he could get in Code A eventually. But not in 3 weeks. His mechanics don't transfer over "automatically". He has to retrain his mind before he can properly utilize his hands.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
forgg has been in Grandmasters for a few months without any indication of going pro, for instance. I'm sure there are plenty of active BW players who play it just as a game that is fun and don't mention it.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
I would be surprised if any notable BW pros switched. It'd either be old people, or B-teamers who think they could make it big if only X, Y, Z. I don't think Losira played a single televised BW game before switching, nor did MMA, and Puma was a "practice bonjwa" with few results in the booth. No A-teamers are going to switch, especially not established ones like, say, Sea or Fantasy (and whenever I see someone say "Flash in SC2" I'm hurt emotionally and physically). No Letas, either.
My rule of thumb is: "If it's someone I've heard of, he's too big to switch" . Korean SC2 is WAAAAAAAY smaller than BW to the point where it depends on the foreign scene to survive. EG.Puma and our own Liquid'Hero left Korean teams because they felt it'd be more productive to play on foreign teams. The scene is run by SC2Con, which protects the rights of the players for denying them any form of additional income besides the "meat 3 days a week" you get at Startale and prize money. The only people who switched at either old and worthless or so insignificant they could have been murdered while still BW players and there wouldn't even be a thread about it (Quick! What BW team was Losira on?).
And while it's true that SC2's prospects are somewhat bright, it's basically just a log to grab on to next to the waterfall of failure right now. Why would anyone with even enh success in BW make the switch (seriously, NaDa)? It's not an appealing alternative. It's a second chance. An extra life. It's a game for Flash to play when his hands fall off, and he's just kind of feebly wapping away at the keyboard with his wrist stumps, and we watch in shame as he wets himself and wins a GSL.
I mean, for fuck's sake, two separate SC2 teams are sponsored by Korean chicken joints, and another two SC2 teams are sponsored by other SC2 teams (fOu/FXO and MVP/Complexity). SC2Con is boycotting NASL because they can't afford plane tickets. The highest salary in SC2 is 12.5% what Flash makes (31k to 250k). MVP's beds are so close together that they're basically one uberbed for everyone.
No one's going to switch that anyone would miss. iloveoov's butler, maybe.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
Most of them are also friends and stuff. I think Puma was one of Flash's training partners in BW (Artosis called him a "practice bonjwa"). These people know each other.
Edit: I'm not making up the "meat 3 days a week", by the way. Startale actually does that.
I agree there is no reason for establish Korean BW pro's to switch to Sc2 right now, but that may change by the time the next two expansions come out. The game will be changing too much, and like you said, its still not big compared to BW during its peak in Korea. But its bigger than you act. You make fun of Sc2-IM beds when Flash probably still sleeps in a bunk bed (and I know for a fact he did just a year or 2 ago). You say NASL can't afford plane tickets when they cleary offered teams $2,000 a player as a travel stipend (I think $1,000 for the tickets alone, then they guaranteed the Koreans $1000 in prize money on top of a 1/16 chance to win 40k). There is more too that disagreement than not enough money for plane tickets. I bet you IM and Slayers will both be sending players to NASL. Cause they aren't stupid and they have some of the best players. And on mechanics, why can't they transfer directly over? You can change the hotkeys. You can put overlords on O. You can make `, F1, F2, F3, F4, Z, G all unit control groups if you want. There is no limit to what you can do almost, meaning that if you want to use BW hotkeys you only have get used to making the new units (then actually using them, where skill only comes with experience)
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
World Rank is a bit weird because a diamond leaguer can have 1200 points and a platinum can have 1500 and there's some guesswork in "conversion rates", especially cross-server
I'm sure that, if he really wanted to, he could get in Code A eventually. But not in 3 weeks. His mechanics don't transfer over "automatically". He has to retrain his mind before he can properly utilize his hands.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
forgg has been in Grandmasters for a few months without any indication of going pro, for instance. I'm sure there are plenty of active BW players who play it just as a game that is fun and don't mention it.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
I would be surprised if any notable BW pros switched. It'd either be old people, or B-teamers who think they could make it big if only X, Y, Z. I don't think Losira played a single televised BW game before switching, nor did MMA, and Puma was a "practice bonjwa" with few results in the booth. No A-teamers are going to switch, especially not established ones like, say, Sea or Fantasy (and whenever I see someone say "Flash in SC2" I'm hurt emotionally and physically). No Letas, either.
My rule of thumb is: "If it's someone I've heard of, he's too big to switch" . Korean SC2 is WAAAAAAAY smaller than BW to the point where it depends on the foreign scene to survive. EG.Puma and our own Liquid'Hero left Korean teams because they felt it'd be more productive to play on foreign teams. The scene is run by SC2Con, which protects the rights of the players for denying them any form of additional income besides the "meat 3 days a week" you get at Startale and prize money. The only people who switched at either old and worthless or so insignificant they could have been murdered while still BW players and there wouldn't even be a thread about it (Quick! What BW team was Losira on?).
And while it's true that SC2's prospects are somewhat bright, it's basically just a log to grab on to next to the waterfall of failure right now. Why would anyone with even enh success in BW make the switch (seriously, NaDa)? It's not an appealing alternative. It's a second chance. An extra life. It's a game for Flash to play when his hands fall off, and he's just kind of feebly wapping away at the keyboard with his wrist stumps, and we watch in shame as he wets himself and wins a GSL.
I mean, for fuck's sake, two separate SC2 teams are sponsored by Korean chicken joints, and another two SC2 teams are sponsored by other SC2 teams (fOu/FXO and MVP/Complexity). SC2Con is boycotting NASL because they can't afford plane tickets. The highest salary in SC2 is 12.5% what Flash makes (31k to 250k). MVP's beds are so close together that they're basically one uberbed for everyone.
No one's going to switch that anyone would miss. iloveoov's butler, maybe.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
Most of them are also friends and stuff. I think Puma was one of Flash's training partners in BW (Artosis called him a "practice bonjwa"). These people know each other.
Edit: I'm not making up the "meat 3 days a week", by the way. Startale actually does that.
I agree there is no reason for establish Korean BW pro's to switch to Sc2 right now, but that may change by the time the next two expansions come out.
MAYBE. I actually do think it's a pretty good game, and everything blizz has said publicly about HoTS has been good ("Corrupters are boring. He makes Colossi, you make Corrupters. There's nothing interesting about it", "Protoss needs a unit for harassment. Phoenixes kind of sort of work, but they need more incentive to split up their army", etc), but making the game better doesn't make the SC2 scene in Korea bigger.
[quote[The game will be changing too much, and like you said, its still not big compared to BW during its peak in Korea.[/quote]
"It's peak"? You couldn't compare it to BW now. Maybe 2001 BW, size-wise.
You say NASL can't afford plane tickets when they cleary offered teams $2,000 a player as a travel stipend (I think $1,000 for the tickets alone, then they guaranteed the Koreans $1000 in prize money on top of a 1/16 chance to win 40k).
No no, NASL can afford it. The teams couldn't, because they're struggling. That's why the want NASL to do it.
There is more too that disagreement than not enough money for plane tickets. I bet you IM and Slayers will both be sending players to NASL. Cause they aren't stupid and they have some of the best players.
They're actually not. Boxer pulled out of NASL for the same reason.
And on mechanics, why can't they transfer directly over? You can change the hotkeys. You can put overlords on O. You can make `, F1, F2, F3, F4, Z, G all unit control groups if you want. There is no limit to what you can do almost, meaning that if you want to use BW hotkeys you only have get used to making the new units (then actually using them, where skill only comes with experience)
I not saying mechanics don't transfer. I'm saying they don't transfer IMMEDIATELY, which is shown by the fact Yellow's not even in diamond yet. Eventually, yes, they will start kicking in.
On August 15 2011 07:03 GolemMadness wrote: "and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods"
I wouldn't exactly call an occasional subtitle that summarises some of what was being said painstaking.
fansubs alone have ~300-400 lines ( fast, accurate, maintains context ) and can be done within a few hours ( encoding may vary though )
those random subtitles that come up occasionally are not even "painstaking" at all, considering that it's being done by a production company than volunteers...
I think Zergbong is one of the guys with the blurred face in the preview for the next episode.
If you looked closely at Yellow's face after the persuation videos (Cool, Zergbong kissing their trophies, then Nada speaks about Yellow) you see that he got it.
All the memories, the glory, the defeat, the neverending hunger.
Yellow will slap down the nerds on his way into Code-A!
I watched this first episode and enjoyed it. I cannot wait to see Yellow training next week. I really hope he can do it, and even if it does not make it this time, I hope he keeps trying.
On August 15 2011 07:03 GolemMadness wrote: "and compared to the nal ra old boy series GoM has painstakingly subtitled the vods"
I wouldn't exactly call an occasional subtitle that summarises some of what was being said painstaking.
fansubs alone have ~300-400 lines ( fast, accurate, maintains context ) and can be done within a few hours ( encoding may vary though )
those random subtitles that come up occasionally are not even "painstaking" at all, considering that it's being done by a production company than volunteers...
I honestly thought when they mention that it will be subtitled in english it would be word by word like nal ra old boy I guess it wasn't I was disappointed too......
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
Yar. Fucking BW elitists -_- (you know who you are)
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do that in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
World Rank is a bit weird because a diamond leaguer can have 1200 points and a platinum can have 1500 and there's some guesswork in "conversion rates", especially cross-server
I'm sure that, if he really wanted to, he could get in Code A eventually. But not in 3 weeks. His mechanics don't transfer over "automatically". He has to retrain his mind before he can properly utilize his hands.
On August 14 2011 17:52 Ryo wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:48 Xkalibert wrote: Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
forgg has been in Grandmasters for a few months without any indication of going pro, for instance. I'm sure there are plenty of active BW players who play it just as a game that is fun and don't mention it.
On August 14 2011 17:58 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:52 Ryo wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:48 Xkalibert wrote: Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
I would be surprised if any notable BW pros switched. It'd either be old people, or B-teamers who think they could make it big if only X, Y, Z. I don't think Losira played a single televised BW game before switching, nor did MMA, and Puma was a "practice bonjwa" with few results in the booth. No A-teamers are going to switch, especially not established ones like, say, Sea or Fantasy (and whenever I see someone say "Flash in SC2" I'm hurt emotionally and physically). No Letas, either.
My rule of thumb is: "If it's someone I've heard of, he's too big to switch" . Korean SC2 is WAAAAAAAY smaller than BW to the point where it depends on the foreign scene to survive. EG.Puma and our own Liquid'Hero left Korean teams because they felt it'd be more productive to play on foreign teams. The scene is run by SC2Con, which protects the rights of the players for denying them any form of additional income besides the "meat 3 days a week" you get at Startale and prize money. The only people who switched at either old and worthless or so insignificant they could have been murdered while still BW players and there wouldn't even be a thread about it (Quick! What BW team was Losira on?).
And while it's true that SC2's prospects are somewhat bright, it's basically just a log to grab on to next to the waterfall of failure right now. Why would anyone with even enh success in BW make the switch (seriously, NaDa)? It's not an appealing alternative. It's a second chance. An extra life. It's a game for Flash to play when his hands fall off, and he's just kind of feebly wapping away at the keyboard with his wrist stumps, and we watch in shame as he wets himself and wins a GSL.
I mean, for fuck's sake, two separate SC2 teams are sponsored by Korean chicken joints, and another two SC2 teams are sponsored by other SC2 teams (fOu/FXO and MVP/Complexity).
No one's going to switch that anyone would miss. iloveoov's butler, maybe.
On August 14 2011 19:14 Dakkas wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:52 Ryo wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:48 Xkalibert wrote: Hmmm... Leta is also checking out sc2.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
Most of them are also friends and stuff. I think Puma was one of Flash's training partners in BW (Artosis called him a "practice bonjwa"). These people know each other.
Edit: I'm not making up the "meat 3 days a week", by the way. Startale actually does that.
This is a seriously ignorant/ridiculous post masked with a huge wall of text.
It was reaffirmed by your iccup/ladder stats.
What does my ICCUP rank have to do with anything? I'm not saying SC2 is a bad game, I'm saying SC2 teams ain't gots no dollahs. Which is true, and they like to mention it. If I was factually wrong, please correct me.
Are you referring to my statement that Yellow's mechanics don't transfer over "automatically"? I don't think anyone seriously believes that even Flash could boot up SC2 for the first time ever and beat Nestea in a Bo7 right away. There's a lag time. I think it's more than three weeks, is all.
I seriously don't understand why my ICCUP rank is relevant. I'm not even talking about the game itself.
You are essentially correct, BW is too popular in Korea for it to be viable for big names to switch over to SC2. Which is why the foreign scene in SC2 is becoming bigger than the Korean one.
On August 14 2011 22:31 Blasterion wrote: Apparently if you master four gate as protoss you become code A in just one month
Lol maybe immediately after release that could have been true.
On August 15 2011 10:19 Blasterion wrote: I think It would be July
'-and then, you ATTACK WITH EVERYTHING.'
'But July, that doesn't sound like a very good id-'
'And then you CONTINUE TO ATTACK! Do a baneling bust!'
'July I'm going roach-'
'QUIET CHOBO, BANELING BUST.'
Yeah Nestea probably the better choice.
(Oh someone said a couple pages ago that July got close to winning a GSL...nah he just got to the finals. He was never winning that. MC destroyed him.)
Everyone here still loves Yellow, but we cherish him for the memories and awesome games he gave us in BW, I personally won't follow his career in SC2 because it'll just be a pale comparison to the rise he made in the BW days.
On August 15 2011 11:10 Armathai wrote: Can we have this thread moved to SC2 section?
Everyone here still loves Yellow, but we cherish him for the memories and awesome games he gave us in BW, I personally won't follow his career in SC2 because it'll just be a pale comparison to the rise he made in the BW days.
I'm pretty sure he is good enough to get 2nd in Sc2. Meaning it wouldn't pale in comparison.
On August 15 2011 11:10 Armathai wrote: Can we have this thread moved to SC2 section?
Everyone here still loves Yellow, but we cherish him for the memories and awesome games he gave us in BW, I personally won't follow his career in SC2 because it'll just be a pale comparison to the rise he made in the BW days.
I second this. This isn't BW related, it's a "neener neener neener, one of your idols switched to SC2" thread.
On August 14 2011 17:23 ajx.Pylon wrote: When does the og oldboy himself, Nal rA, get out of his military service? It's about time he made the switch to SC2. He would, by default, the only Protoss I could root for. Yellow is a little bit *too* prehistoric for my tastes.
He's unlikely to quit his OGN job for SC2. He might participate in GSL as a part-time thing but his main job will stay as a commentator/tv show host.
2 min 13 sec
seems like he wants to be a pro gamer in sc2 though! but who knows that was before he had to go to the army
On August 15 2011 16:59 Cow wrote: Wow they're subbed too? Guess that'll make the episodes watchable even faster (for english viewers anyways). So excited to watch this :D
On August 15 2011 11:10 Armathai wrote: Can we have this thread moved to SC2 section?
Everyone here still loves Yellow, but we cherish him for the memories and awesome games he gave us in BW, I personally won't follow his career in SC2 because it'll just be a pale comparison to the rise he made in the BW days.
I second this. This isn't BW related, it's a "neener neener neener, one of your idols switched to SC2" thread.
No but some people are trying to make it that. Its a "watch this video and maybe get a little more interested in Sc2 thread". Sorry it offends you, but there are probably many threads on this website that offend you (true for me, why not you?). It was done pretty tastefully, and I'm sure thats why it remains. For Sc2 gamers it was also an introduction into Nal_Ra and the oldboy series. I'm done with this rubbish, I'm going to watch STX vs CJ and then watch GSL at the same time.
why would they move this thread? yellow LITERALLY retired from bw less than a month ago and now its, "get this crap out of our bw section". Why not request nada's body thread to get moved to sc2 too since he doesn't play bw anymore. or better, request the thread title changed to "ex-bw bonjwa's body" . what a joke.
Yar. Fucking BW elitists -_- (you know who you are)
he wasn't just referring to BW fans there
That's correct, I wasn't. I was referring to some SC2 fans in here that was speculating that Leta would switch (rubbish)
My point is that just because some was seen playing that game does not mean that they are switching. It could mean that they are interested in that game and wanted to give it a shot, which is what Leta did this time. Yeah he's not switching but SC2 fans should still be happy that a top-tier player like Leta is actually interested in SC2 and not shunning it off like some of the xenophobic fans.
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do tat in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
World Rank is a bit weird because a diamond leaguer can have 1200 points and a platinum can have 1500 and there's some guesswork in "conversion rates", especially cross-server
I'm sure that, if he really wanted to, he could get in Code A eventually. But not in 3 weeks. His mechanics don't transfer over "automatically". He has to retrain his mind before he can properly utilize his hands.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
forgg has been in Grandmasters for a few months without any indication of going pro, for instance. I'm sure there are plenty of active BW players who play it just as a game that is fun and don't mention it.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
I would be surprised if any notable BW pros switched. It'd either be old people, or B-teamers who think they could make it big if only X, Y, Z. I don't think Losira played a single televised BW game before switching, nor did MMA, and Puma was a "practice bonjwa" with few results in the booth. No A-teamers are going to switch, especially not established ones like, say, Sea or Fantasy (and whenever I see someone say "Flash in SC2" I'm hurt emotionally and physically). No Letas, either.
My rule of thumb is: "If it's someone I've heard of, he's too big to switch" . Korean SC2 is WAAAAAAAY smaller than BW to the point where it depends on the foreign scene to survive. EG.Puma and our own Liquid'Hero left Korean teams because they felt it'd be more productive to play on foreign teams. The scene is run by SC2Con, which protects the rights of the players for denying them any form of additional income besides the "meat 3 days a week" you get at Startale and prize money. The only people who switched at either old and worthless or so insignificant they could have been murdered while still BW players and there wouldn't even be a thread about it (Quick! What BW team was Losira on?).
And while it's true that SC2's prospects are somewhat bright, it's basically just a log to grab on to next to the waterfall of failure right now. Why would anyone with even enh success in BW make the switch (seriously, NaDa)? It's not an appealing alternative. It's a second chance. An extra life. It's a game for Flash to play when his hands fall off, and he's just kind of feebly wapping away at the keyboard with his wrist stumps, and we watch in shame as he wets himself and wins a GSL.
I mean, for fuck's sake, two separate SC2 teams are sponsored by Korean chicken joints, and another two SC2 teams are sponsored by other SC2 teams (fOu/FXO and MVP/Complexity). SC2Con is boycotting NASL because they can't afford plane tickets. The highest salary in SC2 is 12.5% what Flash makes (31k to 250k). MVP's beds are so close together that they're basically one uberbed for everyone.
No one's going to switch that anyone would miss. iloveoov's butler, maybe.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
Most of them are also friends and stuff. I think Puma was one of Flash's training partners in BW (Artosis called him a "practice bonjwa"). These people know each other.
Edit: I'm not making up the "meat 3 days a week", by the way. Startale actually does that.
I agree there is no reason for establish Korean BW pro's to switch to Sc2 right now, but that may change by the time the next two expansions come out. The game will be changing too much, and like you said, its still not big compared to BW during its peak in Korea. But its bigger than you act. You make fun of Sc2-IM beds when Flash probably still sleeps in a bunk bed (and I know for a fact he did just a year or 2 ago). You say NASL can't afford plane tickets when they cleary offered teams $2,000 a player as a travel stipend (I think $1,000 for the tickets alone, then they guaranteed the Koreans $1000 in prize money on top of a 1/16 chance to win 40k). There is more too that disagreement than not enough money for plane tickets. I bet you IM and Slayers will both be sending players to NASL. Cause they aren't stupid and they have some of the best players. And on mechanics, why can't they transfer directly over? You can change the hotkeys. You can put overlords on O. You can make `, F1, F2, F3, F4, Z, G all unit control groups if you want. There is no limit to what you can do almost, meaning that if you want to use BW hotkeys you only have get used to making the new units (then actually using them, where skill only comes with experience)
SC2 is absolutely a non-factor in Korea right now and honestly I don't see it growing much. Everyone is playing Korean made MMOs, and this is edging out almost all other foreign games at PC bangs. People play BW still (not much as before) mainly because at its peak lots of people played it and for some it stuck. It most appear that most people playing games are generally moving away from RTS as a whole and the die-hards that still play RTSes haven't really transitioned to SC2. Hell I see more people playing Lineage (the original) than SC2.
Put it this way, following BW pro scene is pretty niche nowadays, and following SC2 in Korea is like 10x as more niche. Some people don't even know it exists, which is kinda funny/sad given how badly blizzard flopped the PR in Korea.
Not to sound like a jerk, but it's really annoying when people just make very wrong assumption about Korea.
On August 15 2011 18:15 stangstang wrote: why would they move this thread? yellow LITERALLY retired from bw less than a month ago and now its, "get this crap out of our bw section". Why not request nada's body thread to get moved to sc2 too since he doesn't play bw anymore. or better, request the thread title changed to "ex-bw bonjwa's body" . what a joke.
The difference is that the Nadas body-thread isnt about "Sexy SC2-progamer bodies", it´s about pics of BW-players. Or so it started, nowadays there are pics posted of a few SC2-gamers aswell. This thread however is 100% about an SC2-event which as it happens has a BW-player in it.
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
Love how you're exaggerating and generalizing again
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
Love how you're exaggerating and generalizing again
well it was an exaggeration and I probably generalized it because that's the type of response I been seeing the last couple of posts
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
Love how you're exaggerating and generalizing again
well it was an exaggeration and I probably generalized it because that's the type of response I been seeing the last couple of posts
Then you've been misreading those posts too because nobody said they want Yellow off the BW forums, just that this thread isn't really related to BW and would be better off in the SC2 section, although they probably already have a thread for this
but yeah we all literally hate Yellow now for doing a thing
This thread is about a variety show of an old progamer attempting a challenge. Just like the Nal_ra's oldboy and Hyungjoon shows, it's meant to be entertaining. There are people who keep the sc2 forums closed so this thread here is to inform them of YellOw doing a show where he enjoys himself and attempts a challenge. If you don't like the idea of him playing SC2, then just stay away from the thread, but please don't attempt to block information from those who wouldn't mind getting a laugh watching YellOw once a week and otherwise wouldn't have known about the show via forums they never read. ^^;
On August 15 2011 22:27 xBillehx wrote: This thread is about a variety show of an old progamer attempting a challenge. Just like the Nal_ra's oldboy and Hyungjoon shows, it's meant to be entertaining. There are people who keep the sc2 forums closed so this thread here is to inform them of YellOw doing a show where he enjoys himself and attempts a challenge. If you don't like the idea of him playing SC2, then just stay away from the thread, but please don't attempt to block information from those who wouldn't mind getting a laugh watching YellOw once a week and otherwise wouldn't have known about the show via forums they never read. ^^;
This sentiment I can understand fully. I would've never known about the show if it was in SC2 forums :D I retract my earlier statement, despite being an SC2 thread its ok to be here.
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
yellow aside, i just found out that zergbong is pwning everyone at SC2? switching from pot to soda pop seems to help. Or is the level of SC2 actually that bad?
lol yeah, it is.If a no namer like Zergbong can completely dominate SC2 then Yellow will win GSL's with ease. Actually, I think he'll be back with BW when he wants a challenge soon enough.
By that logic, NaDa, Boxer and July should have won GSL titles with ease already :p
It's a different game yo!
They will, in due time
No, they won't.
NaDa is the best out of those named (in BW in recent times), he hardly practices (by pro standards) AFAIK. He's really consistent in Code S (correct me if im wrong). yellow was doing well at the end of his BW career, specially considering how long ago he started. Yellow is going to be really strong in sc2, a GSL winner? Maybe but i'd give it 3 seasons before making a relatively accurate prediction.
Nada's been consistently advancing from his group, and made it to the Ro4 back in May (somehow losing to 10% vs Zerg Inca and giving us a painfully one-sided Inca/Nestea finals). I could see him breaking out and winning one, and I would not even be slightly surprised if he won MLG Raleigh.
That's the Boxer-Yellow showmatch. That game was played a week ago. No one expected someone who played the game casually for a month to actually beast even a struggling pro. But Yellow seemed determine to refute the "C- in ICCUP = Masters in SC2" idea by being in gold league and playing like it. Yellow is bad at SC2. He is bafflingly bad. He is literally worse than I am, and I'm terrible. Yeah, it was a showmatch, but Yellow got humiliated so hard the publicity stunt backfired.
Sorry, but no way he's making Code A when players like IMSeed can't. Not in a month.
Watch the project A video. He has does not know enough about the game to be good. He never made roaches vs Hellions (Even though he did vs banshees -_-', and then boxer let him win). He doesn't even know what all the units do. He didn't research baneling speed the game he made banelings, then did a game where he made no banelings at all. And even with that he is a higher rated player in 10 or so games than most Diamond NA players. Yeah he is fucking terrible/end sarcasm. Give him time, he played actually pretty smart against BoxeR for someone who didn't know wtf he was doing. His BW mechanics will allow him to macro and micro Sc2 impeccably, and probably better than BoxeR or Nestea, but Sc2 is a much different game strategically (different units, different abilities, different maps, different meta-game) and it also plays much different (with unit pathing, building placement, -everything). Feck they were even playing in 3D. Who plays progames in 3D...??? With 3D Glasses..........
Well, yeah, I'm sure that after a few months of hard practice he'll be pretty good. It's not that he's a failure as a person or anything. I can see him getting to Code B (top 500 on ladder) in three weeks if he plays full-time with coaching, but it took DongRaeGu like 5 tries to do it. I don't see it happening for Yellow in such a short time.
Unless he tries the fast way and plays in MLG to skip Code A entirely. That'd be weird.
Also,KR Gold != NA Diamond. The top 500 or so people on the KRTW server >>>>>>> The top 500 on NALA (because they're pros playing seriously for Code B), but it doesn't go down the line that much.
On August 14 2011 12:42 Black[CAT] wrote: Owh lol, hearing the 3 mentors explaining the race, it kinda shows to me that sc2 is a shallow game that is imbalanced...
Vultures have zero build time and are free. They were exaggerating, dude. Everyone and their dogs knew Yellow would play Zerg. The finals of the last GSL had a Zerg beat another Zerg and win the GSL without dropping a single set. Zerg players just need to defend well, is all.
Which is actually Yellow's other problem. He needs to learn to defend rushes. Pro Zerg have gotten pretty good at getting rushed and taking little-to-no damage. In SC2, bunker rushes are actually standard TvZ. Most Zerg just make 2-4 lings and hold it off with drones so that they only lose mining time and maybe a drone if they're not careful. Yellow needs to learn to defend a bunker rush with 4 drones (because that's how other pro zergs do it). Then he needs to learn to defend a 4 gate. Then how to defend the 3 Void Ray into 2gate Phoenix. Then a sentry-based 6gate. Then BF hellions. Etc etc etc.
Even just standard pressure can kill you if you don't react to it properly. Pro Zergs can, because they've had a year of metagame. If I were playing Yellow in Code A, I'd do a timing attack that has fallen out of favor, like the MC push or the sC 8rax all-in (not "rax on 8". "Make 8 rax with reactors and make rally 15 marines at a time to your opponent'sbase"). The game where sC did that against Losira (free VOD for set 1, the set in question) was pretty awesome (and a good example of why just because you CAN have your army on 1 hotkey doesn't mean you SHOULD. Count how many infestors A-move up to the marines with the lings and die), but can Yellow learn to do tat in three weeks, in addition to all the other shit he has to learn?
I don't think he can.
I'm in Diamond in NA (top 8 usually) and I looked up his world rank compared to mine. He has a higher world rank than me while in Platinum . I think with his mechanics it is possible to get that good in a short amount of time (you can even pick hotkeys in sc2). But it really depends on how serious he is about it, and how much time he spends practicing. He really does need to spend 8-10 hours everyday playing to get that good. Hopefully he really commits.
World Rank is a bit weird because a diamond leaguer can have 1200 points and a platinum can have 1500 and there's some guesswork in "conversion rates", especially cross-server
I'm sure that, if he really wanted to, he could get in Code A eventually. But not in 3 weeks. His mechanics don't transfer over "automatically". He has to retrain his mind before he can properly utilize his hands.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
forgg has been in Grandmasters for a few months without any indication of going pro, for instance. I'm sure there are plenty of active BW players who play it just as a game that is fun and don't mention it.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Playing in their spare time is one thing, going over to "GOM" house and playing with sc2 pro is another. (BW pros contracts ending in august) educated guess and speculation says otherwise
I would be surprised if any notable BW pros switched. It'd either be old people, or B-teamers who think they could make it big if only X, Y, Z. I don't think Losira played a single televised BW game before switching, nor did MMA, and Puma was a "practice bonjwa" with few results in the booth. No A-teamers are going to switch, especially not established ones like, say, Sea or Fantasy (and whenever I see someone say "Flash in SC2" I'm hurt emotionally and physically). No Letas, either.
My rule of thumb is: "If it's someone I've heard of, he's too big to switch" . Korean SC2 is WAAAAAAAY smaller than BW to the point where it depends on the foreign scene to survive. EG.Puma and our own Liquid'Hero left Korean teams because they felt it'd be more productive to play on foreign teams. The scene is run by SC2Con, which protects the rights of the players for denying them any form of additional income besides the "meat 3 days a week" you get at Startale and prize money. The only people who switched at either old and worthless or so insignificant they could have been murdered while still BW players and there wouldn't even be a thread about it (Quick! What BW team was Losira on?).
And while it's true that SC2's prospects are somewhat bright, it's basically just a log to grab on to next to the waterfall of failure right now. Why would anyone with even enh success in BW make the switch (seriously, NaDa)? It's not an appealing alternative. It's a second chance. An extra life. It's a game for Flash to play when his hands fall off, and he's just kind of feebly wapping away at the keyboard with his wrist stumps, and we watch in shame as he wets himself and wins a GSL.
I mean, for fuck's sake, two separate SC2 teams are sponsored by Korean chicken joints, and another two SC2 teams are sponsored by other SC2 teams (fOu/FXO and MVP/Complexity). SC2Con is boycotting NASL because they can't afford plane tickets. The highest salary in SC2 is 12.5% what Flash makes (31k to 250k). MVP's beds are so close together that they're basically one uberbed for everyone.
No one's going to switch that anyone would miss. iloveoov's butler, maybe.
BW progamers do play SC2 in their spare time. They also play FPS games in their spare time. So don't be surprised.
Exactly, the fans are too binary. Too many think you're either a BW fan or a SC2 fan. The pros don't care about the stupid semantics of the fans, they are not ignorant enough to completely ignore a game that interests them simply because there are some fans that are too xenophobic.
Most of them are also friends and stuff. I think Puma was one of Flash's training partners in BW (Artosis called him a "practice bonjwa"). These people know each other.
Edit: I'm not making up the "meat 3 days a week", by the way. Startale actually does that.
I agree there is no reason for establish Korean BW pro's to switch to Sc2 right now, but that may change by the time the next two expansions come out. The game will be changing too much, and like you said, its still not big compared to BW during its peak in Korea. But its bigger than you act. You make fun of Sc2-IM beds when Flash probably still sleeps in a bunk bed (and I know for a fact he did just a year or 2 ago). You say NASL can't afford plane tickets when they cleary offered teams $2,000 a player as a travel stipend (I think $1,000 for the tickets alone, then they guaranteed the Koreans $1000 in prize money on top of a 1/16 chance to win 40k). There is more too that disagreement than not enough money for plane tickets. I bet you IM and Slayers will both be sending players to NASL. Cause they aren't stupid and they have some of the best players. And on mechanics, why can't they transfer directly over? You can change the hotkeys. You can put overlords on O. You can make `, F1, F2, F3, F4, Z, G all unit control groups if you want. There is no limit to what you can do almost, meaning that if you want to use BW hotkeys you only have get used to making the new units (then actually using them, where skill only comes with experience)
SC2 is absolutely a non-factor in Korea right now and honestly I don't see it growing much.
Actually, with EG's shenanigans about a ginormous announcement, people are speculating that they're hiring former BW players. That's actually a little more likely (supposedly Huk got offered 6 figures by EG), though there's the language thing. I could see a BW B-teamer or low A-teamer joining the better-paying foreign teams. The sub-Hyuk level. No real A-teamers, though. No Seas.
Put it this way, following BW pro scene is pretty niche nowadays, and following SC2 in Korea is like 10x as more niche. Some people don't even know it exists, which is kinda funny/sad given how badly blizzard flopped the PR in Korea.
Not to sound like a jerk, but it's really annoying when people just make very wrong assumption about Korea.
Yeah, no one of note in BW is joining a Korean SC2 team in the near future.
How did we get to this point? Wasn't this thread about Yellow?
The thread is about the show Project A, it's BW related because its showing the journey from a VERY recently retired BW player (and legend at that) switching to sc2. If you don't want to watch it that's fine, but honestly chucking shit at each other and whining about which game is better isn't the point of the thread.
So far it was pretty good, subtitles are okay although full subs would be much better imo. I doubt it'll end up being as good as Old boy, but I hope it continues to be worth watching.
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
God damn it not you again.
If god truly damned me I would've been struck down years ago, yet I have never been struck by lightning
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
God damn it not you again.
If god truly damned me I would've been struck down years ago, yet I have never been struck by lightning
I will banish you from NaDa's body thread if you dare to disrupt the peace here.
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
God damn it not you again.
If god truly damned me I would've been struck down years ago, yet I have never been struck by lightning
I will banish you from NaDa's body thread if you dare to disrupt the peace here.
Then I shall speak no more. However is it not he that disturbs the peace with his insults when all we wanted to talk about is Project A?
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
God damn it not you again.
If god truly damned me I would've been struck down years ago, yet I have never been struck by lightning
I will banish you from NaDa's body thread if you dare to disrupt the peace here.
Then I shall speak no more. However is it not he that disturbs the peace with his insults when all we wanted to talk about is Project A?
You have an uncanny knack for coming into a thread, taking an excerpt that is anti-SC2, applying to all "Brood War people," then trying to point fingers at others. It's getting old.
As always, the majority of the negativity originates from posts such as yours and the following:
On August 13 2011 01:41 kollin wrote: Mwahahaha, another hero is claimed!
On August 13 2011 06:32 Tenthist wrote: Sc2 is no way the old veteran league for the BW players. Sc2 requires skill in a different sense. Get it right OP maker.
On August 13 2011 06:40 puppykiller wrote: God whats next.... ILoveoov?
One can only hope! ♥
On August 13 2011 10:59 BearStorm wrote: I'm interested to know how much Korean interest in SC2 is generated when nostalgic players like Yellow switches over. I hope these kinds of player transitions are what is needed to increase SC2 popularity in Korea.
On August 16 2011 12:18 BLinD-RawR wrote: kollin's post is the only one I see as negative really.
Not even Blasterion's, the one that painted us all as SC2 haters with his blanket statements? Please.
The others are potentially more subjective and might be less blunt but are all pointing in the same direction, which is "Bad for BW, good for SC2, let's make a post about my happiness at the prospect in the BW section!"
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
God damn it not you again.
If god truly damned me I would've been struck down years ago, yet I have never been struck by lightning
I will banish you from NaDa's body thread if you dare to disrupt the peace here.
Then I shall speak no more. However is it not he that disturbs the peace with his insults when all we wanted to talk about is Project A?
You have an uncanny knack for coming into a thread, taking an excerpt that is anti-SC2, applying to all "Brood War people," then trying to point fingers at others. It's getting old.
As always, the majority of the negativity originates from posts such as yours and the following:
On August 13 2011 06:32 Tenthist wrote: Sc2 is no way the old veteran league for the BW players. Sc2 requires skill in a different sense. Get it right OP maker.
On August 13 2011 10:59 BearStorm wrote: I'm interested to know how much Korean interest in SC2 is generated when nostalgic players like Yellow switches over. I hope these kinds of player transitions are what is needed to increase SC2 popularity in Korea.
Of course some comments may seem offensive to you. As some of them would provocative. However, not once do you explain to them why you don't want to hear stuff like that, You only respond with, "I think i threw up in my mouth" or "SC2 where Stoners become bonjwas" or something equally insulting. And of course, loyal to your Brood War beliefs you want to take this thread out of this forum seeing how SC2 players are interested in this project about a brood war player going SC2. Wanting to protect your sacred game, Understandable of course. While you want to cut off knowing Yellow after his retirement from his brood war career. It does give off the feeling that, He's going to SC2, so to us Yellow is already dead. does it not?
On August 16 2011 12:18 BLinD-RawR wrote: kollin's post is the only one I see as negative really.
Not even Blasterion's, the one that painted us all as SC2 haters with his blanket statements? Please.
The others are potentially more subjective and might be less blunt but are all pointing in the same direction, which is "Bad for BW, good for SC2, let's make a post about my happiness at the prospect in the BW section!"
among those 4 quotes there I meant,I already made it clear of my view of Blasterion's post.
fine I'll say it again,utter bullshit and overgeneralizing of the people of the BW forums(this includes the post above too).
No balsterion it does not,we are I am happy as long as yellow is happy.Nothing more,nothing less.
On August 15 2011 22:02 Blasterion wrote: Love how the Brood War people went from "awww Yellow retiring? Good luck to him in the future." to "What? SC2? Get his name off my fucking forums"
God damn it not you again.
If god truly damned me I would've been struck down years ago, yet I have never been struck by lightning
I will banish you from NaDa's body thread if you dare to disrupt the peace here.
Then I shall speak no more. However is it not he that disturbs the peace with his insults when all we wanted to talk about is Project A?
You have an uncanny knack for coming into a thread, taking an excerpt that is anti-SC2, applying to all "Brood War people," then trying to point fingers at others. It's getting old.
As always, the majority of the negativity originates from posts such as yours and the following:
On August 13 2011 01:41 kollin wrote: Mwahahaha, another hero is claimed!
On August 13 2011 06:32 Tenthist wrote: Sc2 is no way the old veteran league for the BW players. Sc2 requires skill in a different sense. Get it right OP maker.
On August 13 2011 06:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 13 2011 06:40 puppykiller wrote: God whats next.... ILoveoov?
One can only hope! ♥
On August 13 2011 10:59 BearStorm wrote: I'm interested to know how much Korean interest in SC2 is generated when nostalgic players like Yellow switches over. I hope these kinds of player transitions are what is needed to increase SC2 popularity in Korea.
Of course some comments may seem offensive to you. As some of them would provocative. However, not once do you explain to them why you don't want to hear stuff like that, You only respond with, "I think i threw up in my mouth" or "SC2 where Stoners become bonjwas" or something equally insulting. And of course, loyal to your Brood War beliefs you want to take this thread out of this forum seeing how SC2 players are interested in this project about a brood war player going SC2. Wanting to protect your sacred game, Understandable of course. While you want to cut off knowing Yellow after his retirement from his brood war career. It does give off the feeling that, He's going to SC2, so to us Yellow is already dead. does it not?
Seriously, what is wrong with you? How do you freely attribute these things to me, when I haven't said a single word of that nature? Even if you are using a universal 'you,' don't come asking me to defend the actions of others. Also, stop with the sensationalist writing style, it's part of the reason why others have voiced their distaste for your posting in BW forums. You're usually not like this in real life, but maybe it's because you don't voice your opinions then, because you know how abrasive they are?
Anyways, more to the point, it is not our responsibility to tell every single SC2 noob who comes into the BW section to use common sense and not prance around willy-nilly while we watch our legends leave us for SC2. When a player gets traded from football club a to b, is it appropriate for fans of b to go on a forums and laugh in their face? It's common sense - NO. Stop pretending it's anything else but that. There have been countless temp bans given out for this already.
EDIT: Also, there already is an SC2 thread about this, go there and have a blast (haha, get it?).
EDIT 2: Thanks for reaffirming my allegation that you try to generalize all BW players into one SC2 hate mongering group, AGAIN.
On August 16 2011 12:18 BLinD-RawR wrote: kollin's post is the only one I see as negative really.
Not even Blasterion's, the one that painted us all as SC2 haters with his blanket statements? Please.
The others are potentially more subjective and might be less blunt but are all pointing in the same direction, which is "Bad for BW, good for SC2, let's make a post about my happiness at the prospect in the BW section!"
among those 4 quotes there I meant,I already made it clear of my view of Blasterion's post.
fine I'll say it again,utter bullshit and overgeneralizing of the people of the BW forums(this includes the post above too).
No balsterion it does not,we areI am happy as long as yellow is happy.Nothing more,nothing less.
That should be what the thread is about. I thought he was a coach and he wasn't playing much in BW anymore, thats why he retired. That was sad, I'm sure he felt like all those times getting 2nd finally got the best of him. Now he has a chance to again be #1 (though that will take a long time, I don't see why he isn't more capable than MC or Nestea). I like BW but I only got back into BW because of Sc2 Beta. I wouldn't even know who Nal_Ra was without this thread, now I have cried for him, even though he was really just kind of being a baby ; ). There is no Flash or Jaedong in Sc2 and its a fresh start for someone who had been with the scene long enough to find it stale. I really hope he is motivated in whatever he does.
nestea getting the majority vote the other candidates for yellow is getting very little of vote don't be suprised if boxer will be the one to coach yellow throughout the whole program ;D.
On August 17 2011 13:52 Sawamura wrote: nestea getting the majority vote the other candidates for yellow is getting very little of vote don't be suprised if boxer will be the one to coach yellow throughout the whole program ;D.
He'll obviously make appearances. Along with other oldschool players like NaDa and July probably. Can't wait till friday (((
Personally I think this thread needs to be put in SC2 Section. Just because he retired from BW not to long ago doesn't mean anything he does now is related to BW when he already left the BW scene to start something new. So why even do this when there's gonna be a lot of backlash which, you have seen already from people.
On August 17 2011 15:47 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote: Personally I think this thread needs to be put in SC2 Section. Just because he retired from BW not to long ago doesn't mean anything he does now is related to BW when he already left the BW scene to start something new. So why even do this when there's gonna be a lot of backlash which, you have seen already from people.
Personally not everyone is against the thread after all it's good to see our veteran still thriving his best in sc2 and his show quite hilarious and lol about shifting it to sc2 section it will be just full of spam omg yellow ! storm zerg ! no history at all the guys at sc2 don't understand what is yellow compared to us .
I say that it's okay that yellow is smiling again and being happy it's like his passion is regenerated after a long time and I want to see how far it will go . No sc2 forum please I don't want this thread to be spam to death.
I dont even understand why you people say even such things as "old players go retirement home" when talking about sc2.
Reason why i dont understand such things, is that right now those old pro gaming veterans are max 30 year old which is age where people are still physically and mentally in their prime and should not have any impairment in gaming performance in brood war. So it is not age related why 25 year olds or older rarely win any major leagues in brood war. It is probably due to demanding and hard competition where it is hard to remain consistent for many years.
Maybe if by "old" you mean that they are drained by the competition and move on to "easier" game, then it might be correct.
On August 17 2011 23:58 Lordwar wrote: I dont even understand why you people say even such things as "old players go retirement home" when talking about sc2.
Reason why i dont understand such things, is that right now those old pro gaming veterans are max 30 year old which is age where people are still physically and mentally in their prime and should not have any impairment in gaming performance in brood war. So it is not age related why 25 year olds or older rarely win any major leagues in brood war. It is probably due to demanding and hard competition where it is hard to remain consistent for many years.
Maybe if by "old" you mean that they are drained by the competition and move on to "easier" game, then it might be correct.
??? You were quoting who , I don't seem to recall calling sc2 a retirement home lol but it could possibly be age and so but it really depend on the player Much,Anytime,Xellos Reach are old school players but they still can pull out their best when the situation is provided owning any new guys on the scene but not all the time however when xellos owned FANTASY in a 1 on 1 match in proleague i was about to jump in my seat seeing the old school guys owning stuff up and begging to differ that doesn't mean you are 28 - 30 age you can't be good at this game anymore .
On August 17 2011 15:47 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote: Personally I think this thread needs to be put in SC2 Section. Just because he retired from BW not to long ago doesn't mean anything he does now is related to BW when he already left the BW scene to start something new. So why even do this when there's gonna be a lot of backlash which, you have seen already from people.
Personally not everyone is against the thread after all it's good to see our veteran still thriving his best in sc2 and his show quite hilarious and lol about shifting it to sc2 section it will be just full of spam omg yellow ! storm zerg ! no history at all the guys at sc2 don't understand what is yellow compared to us .
I say that it's okay that yellow is smiling again and being happy it's like his passion is regenerated after a long time and I want to see how far it will go . No sc2 forum please I don't want this thread to be spam to death.
On August 17 2011 15:47 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote: Personally I think this thread needs to be put in SC2 Section. Just because he retired from BW not to long ago doesn't mean anything he does now is related to BW when he already left the BW scene to start something new. So why even do this when there's gonna be a lot of backlash which, you have seen already from people.
Personally not everyone is against the thread after all it's good to see our veteran still thriving his best in sc2 and his show quite hilarious and lol about shifting it to sc2 section it will be just full of spam omg yellow ! storm zerg ! no history at all the guys at sc2 don't understand what is yellow compared to us .
I say that it's okay that yellow is smiling again and being happy it's like his passion is regenerated after a long time and I want to see how far it will go . No sc2 forum please I don't want this thread to be spam to death.
Thriving isn't really the word I would use... Poor guy doesn't even know what units do what.
Don't minimized people's effort in doing something and I felt really offended that you are expecting yellow to be gosu at a game he is experiencing for the first time and than expecting him to pull some gosu bw strategy in to sc2 ? .Sorry i am sticking to thriving and I will watch yellow grow in sc2 and will support him all the way .
On August 17 2011 15:47 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote: Personally I think this thread needs to be put in SC2 Section. Just because he retired from BW not to long ago doesn't mean anything he does now is related to BW when he already left the BW scene to start something new. So why even do this when there's gonna be a lot of backlash which, you have seen already from people.
Personally not everyone is against the thread after all it's good to see our veteran still thriving his best in sc2 and his show quite hilarious and lol about shifting it to sc2 section it will be just full of spam omg yellow ! storm zerg ! no history at all the guys at sc2 don't understand what is yellow compared to us .
I say that it's okay that yellow is smiling again and being happy it's like his passion is regenerated after a long time and I want to see how far it will go . No sc2 forum please I don't want this thread to be spam to death.
Thriving isn't really the word I would use... Poor guy doesn't even know what units do what.
Don't minimized people's effort in doing something and I felt really offended that you are expecting yellow to be gosu at a game he is experiencing for the first time and than expecting him to pull some gosu bw strategy in to sc2 ? .Sorry i am sticking to thriving and I will watch yellow grow in sc2 and will support him all the way .
Yeah I personally think its good that he's starting at rock bottom (not knowing what units do etc.) and eventually moving up and competing in Code A, so we can see what 1 month worth of good training and dedication can do.
On August 17 2011 15:47 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote: Personally I think this thread needs to be put in SC2 Section. Just because he retired from BW not to long ago doesn't mean anything he does now is related to BW when he already left the BW scene to start something new. So why even do this when there's gonna be a lot of backlash which, you have seen already from people.
Personally not everyone is against the thread after all it's good to see our veteran still thriving his best in sc2 and his show quite hilarious and lol about shifting it to sc2 section it will be just full of spam omg yellow ! storm zerg ! no history at all the guys at sc2 don't understand what is yellow compared to us .
I say that it's okay that yellow is smiling again and being happy it's like his passion is regenerated after a long time and I want to see how far it will go . No sc2 forum please I don't want this thread to be spam to death.
Thriving isn't really the word I would use... Poor guy doesn't even know what units do what.
Don't minimized people's effort in doing something and I felt really offended that you are expecting yellow to be gosu at a game he is experiencing for the first time and than expecting him to pull some gosu bw strategy in to sc2 ? .Sorry i am sticking to thriving and I will watch yellow grow in sc2 and will support him all the way .
Yeah I personally think its good that he's starting at rock bottom (not knowing what units do etc.) and eventually moving up and competing in Code A, so we can see what 1 month worth of good training and dedication can do.
Do you know how many weeks that yellow is given for him to practice before the Code A tournament ? I remember like he is given 7 weeks right ? Sounds impossible and scary T_T so damn similiar to nal ra .
I loved Old Boy and I love Project A. It's so similiar and I'm actually glad. Just the interaction of YellOw with TheWinD etc. and the general set-up of everything.
On August 20 2011 02:31 Flash_one wrote: Guess nobody in the foreign community found out about Nal_rA playing SC2 on he's own time these days huh Now i'm going to find it for u guyz
You are kidding me @@ keep us posted man if you find anything .
On August 20 2011 02:31 Flash_one wrote: Guess nobody in the foreign community found out about Nal_rA playing SC2 on he's own time these days huh Now i'm going to find it for u guyz
You are kidding me @@ keep us posted man if you find anything .
It was like last year November or something he played at a program done by GOM(Korean one wasn't on the Global one) with anonymous ID. Which later we found out it was Nal_rA
On August 20 2011 02:31 Flash_one wrote: Guess nobody in the foreign community found out about Nal_rA playing SC2 on he's own time these days huh Now i'm going to find it for u guyz
You are kidding me @@ keep us posted man if you find anything .
It was like last year November or something he played at a program done by GOM(Korean one wasn't on the Global one) with anonymous ID. Which later we found out it was Nal_rA
Edit: this was when SC2 was beta and the pros were just having an experience
yeah i read this before there was supposed to host a show match between nal ra and boxer too if i recall well this is not really some new information though .
On August 20 2011 02:31 Flash_one wrote: Guess nobody in the foreign community found out about Nal_rA playing SC2 on he's own time these days huh Now i'm going to find it for u guyz
You are kidding me @@ keep us posted man if you find anything .
It was like last year November or something he played at a program done by GOM(Korean one wasn't on the Global one) with anonymous ID. Which later we found out it was Nal_rA
Edit: this was when SC2 was beta and the pros were just having an experience
yeah i read this before there was supposed to host a show match between nal ra and boxer too if i recall well this is not really some new information though .
Yeah I found the VOD which was played last Oct 26th but this is a VOD which the foreigners can't access T_T;;
On August 17 2011 15:47 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote: Personally I think this thread needs to be put in SC2 Section. Just because he retired from BW not to long ago doesn't mean anything he does now is related to BW when he already left the BW scene to start something new. So why even do this when there's gonna be a lot of backlash which, you have seen already from people.
Personally not everyone is against the thread after all it's good to see our veteran still thriving his best in sc2 and his show quite hilarious and lol about shifting it to sc2 section it will be just full of spam omg yellow ! storm zerg ! no history at all the guys at sc2 don't understand what is yellow compared to us .
I say that it's okay that yellow is smiling again and being happy it's like his passion is regenerated after a long time and I want to see how far it will go . No sc2 forum please I don't want this thread to be spam to death.
Thriving isn't really the word I would use... Poor guy doesn't even know what units do what.
Don't minimized people's effort in doing something and I felt really offended that you are expecting yellow to be gosu at a game he is experiencing for the first time and than expecting him to pull some gosu bw strategy in to sc2 ? .Sorry i am sticking to thriving and I will watch yellow grow in sc2 and will support him all the way .
I'm not minimizing his effort at all, I want Yellow to be sick good at SC2. He is obviously the most talented gold league player to ever exist... I just think the term thriving is more of a "at the top" kind of thing.
At least give yellow some build orders and introduce him some replays at how different style zerg plays I felt like they are bullying yellow for not having a proper coach teaching him all the basics . Maybe like all the other saying is probably it was done behind the scene and not when the show is running . Anyway yellow fighting you can't give up dude ...
starting to feel like i could already have yellow in master league + by now.
thewind needs to stop being a bitch and start coaching.
These guys are amongst the top professional starcraft players and coaches, they know how to get really, really good at starcraft. It's just done for show. It wouldn't be half as entertaining if it was them actually training.
On August 20 2011 02:31 Flash_one wrote: Guess nobody in the foreign community found out about Nal_rA playing SC2 on he's own time these days huh Now i'm going to find it for u guyz
See this is exactly why this needs to go under the sc2 section. We're gonna get spammed to death with "so and so is playing sc2 now". Like we don't care about sc2 this is why It's under BroodWar not the other way around.
On August 20 2011 02:31 Flash_one wrote: Guess nobody in the foreign community found out about Nal_rA playing SC2 on he's own time these days huh Now i'm going to find it for u guyz
See this is exactly why this needs to go under the sc2 section. We're gonna get spammed to death with "so and so is playing sc2 now". Like we don't care about sc2 this is why It's under BroodWar not the other way around.
Too bad I already know nal ra was playing sc2 in his free time so is that the reason these should go in to sc2 forum ? I beg your pardon No it shouldn't I don't want yellow thread to spam again and again and only is important when the show is being broadcasted so no I want this thread to remain here .
Every time i go to the sc2 forum i see yellow thread found no where only to be toppled by nasl,mlg and all the latest hype in sc2 .I want yellow's accession to the next stage of his career to be viewed by the broodwar player and to all of us who still is a fan of him. Just because he has change profession that doesn't mean he isn't old yellow . That's the reason the thread was made in bw section for those who wants to see yellow still going all out for it hence that's why this thread will remain in broodwar and I am not allowing this thread to be move into sc2 .
On August 20 2011 08:11 Sawamura wrote: At least give yellow some build orders and introduce him some replays at how different style zerg plays I felt like they are bullying yellow for not having a proper coach teaching him all the basics . Maybe like all the other saying is probably it was done behind the scene and not when the show is running . Anyway yellow fighting you can't give up dude ...
Probably off-camera. TheWind gave a detailed plan and we cut to five days later. I think they were expecting he'd be at minimum diamond from spending some time playing and reading Korean Liquipedia. And also they want to emphasize how bad he is now at the start, because it makes for a better story.
Still, blind countering something just because you don't like it, and justifying it by pointing out you were floating tons of money isn't really the conduct you'd expect out of a BW player. Yellow in general seems to not have the best attitude about all this. 30 games in 5 days?
On August 20 2011 08:11 Sawamura wrote: At least give yellow some build orders and introduce him some replays at how different style zerg plays I felt like they are bullying yellow for not having a proper coach teaching him all the basics . Maybe like all the other saying is probably it was done behind the scene and not when the show is running . Anyway yellow fighting you can't give up dude ...
Probably off-camera. TheWind gave a detailed plan and we cut to five days later. I think they were expecting he'd be at minimum diamond from spending some time playing and reading Korean Liquipedia. And also they want to emphasize how bad he is now at the start, because it makes for a better story.
Still, blind countering something just because you don't like it, and justifying it by pointing out you were floating tons of money isn't really the conduct you'd expect out of a BW player. Yellow in general seems to not have the best attitude about all this. 30 games in 5 days?
Well if you ask me yellow in broodwar his training could be less games but more quality games rather than mass game and become bonjwa I think however that's not yellow style he probably is going back to his roots and training from what he learn in bw hence the "Image training " personally i don't know what is that ...although i am sure yellow off screen trying his best at practicing he has decent queen control lol I am not sure that's even silver rank control in korea . I thinks it's too early to speculate and let's see how he progress from episode 2 . I am sure we will see him going hardcore once he gets that gear into turbo mode .
Just thinking outloud, but I wonder if they're "doctoring" the reality show a bit to show him not trying hard/being bad until after the Boxer showmatch lights his fire for dramatic effect. I guess that's my reality tv skepticism combined with not believing yellow is either a) is that bad or b) half assing hard it after agreeing and having all the investment from GOM/Coaches.
On August 20 2011 02:31 Flash_one wrote: Guess nobody in the foreign community found out about Nal_rA playing SC2 on he's own time these days huh Now i'm going to find it for u guyz
See this is exactly why this needs to go under the sc2 section. We're gonna get spammed to death with "so and so is playing sc2 now". Like we don't care about sc2 this is why It's under BroodWar not the other way around.
Too bad I already know nal ra was playing sc2 in his free time so is that the reason these should go in to sc2 forum ? I beg your pardon No it shouldn't I don't want yellow thread to spam again and again and only is important when the show is being broadcasted so no I want this thread to remain here .
Every time i go to the sc2 forum i see yellow thread found no where only to be toppled by nasl,mlg and all the latest hype in sc2 .I want yellow's accession to the next stage of his career to be viewed by the broodwar player and to all of us who still is a fan of him. Just because he has change profession that doesn't mean he isn't old yellow . That's the reason the thread was made in bw section for those who wants to see yellow still going all out for it hence that's why this thread will remain in broodwar and I am not allowing this thread to be move into sc2 .
Yes but, once again you fail to understand the reason this thread does not belong here. This thread was made to follow him in Sc2 through a show. Even if you are a fan dude I don't recall seeing threads about Boxer in the BW section following his sc2 career. I'm glad yellow showed up to the finals to support his team but, that doesn't change my opinion of what i think about this thread.
On August 20 2011 02:31 Flash_one wrote: Guess nobody in the foreign community found out about Nal_rA playing SC2 on he's own time these days huh Now i'm going to find it for u guyz
See this is exactly why this needs to go under the sc2 section. We're gonna get spammed to death with "so and so is playing sc2 now". Like we don't care about sc2 this is why It's under BroodWar not the other way around.
Too bad I already know nal ra was playing sc2 in his free time so is that the reason these should go in to sc2 forum ? I beg your pardon No it shouldn't I don't want yellow thread to spam again and again and only is important when the show is being broadcasted so no I want this thread to remain here .
Every time i go to the sc2 forum i see yellow thread found no where only to be toppled by nasl,mlg and all the latest hype in sc2 .I want yellow's accession to the next stage of his career to be viewed by the broodwar player and to all of us who still is a fan of him. Just because he has change profession that doesn't mean he isn't old yellow . That's the reason the thread was made in bw section for those who wants to see yellow still going all out for it hence that's why this thread will remain in broodwar and I am not allowing this thread to be move into sc2 .
Yes but, once again you fail to understand the reason this thread does not belong here. This thread was made to follow him in Sc2 through a show. Even if you are a fan dude I don't recall seeing threads about Boxer in the BW section following his sc2 career. I'm glad yellow showed up to the finals to support his team but, that doesn't change my opinion of what i think about this thread.
I made a post regarding this position earlier in the thread.
On August 15 2011 22:27 xBillehx wrote: This thread is about a variety show of an old progamer attempting a challenge. Just like the Nal_ra's oldboy and Hyungjoon shows, it's meant to be entertaining. There are people who keep the sc2 forums closed so this thread here is to inform them of YellOw doing a show where he enjoys himself and attempts a challenge. If you don't like the idea of him playing SC2, then just stay away from the thread, but please don't attempt to block information from those who wouldn't mind getting a laugh watching YellOw once a week and otherwise wouldn't have known about the show via forums they never read. ^^;
There already have been people who enjoy it but wouldn't have known about it if this thread wasn't here, so that in my opinion makes it worth the effort. Also why are 3/4 of your posts complaining about this? PBU?
@Xbillehx because my other accounts got closed down for good. I actually had 500+ Comment history on a different account FYI. I'd also like to note that in the future I will be streaming my games for the BW Community.
On August 20 2011 16:50 ironchef wrote: Nice, yellow is real fun personality wise.
Just thinking outloud, but I wonder if they're "doctoring" the reality show a bit to show him not trying hard/being bad until after the Boxer showmatch lights his fire for dramatic effect. I guess that's my reality tv skepticism combined with not believing yellow is either a) is that bad or b) half assing hard it after agreeing and having all the investment from GOM/Coaches.
You're absolutely right. The first episode was pretty blatant, too, with all the long debate and joking about which race Yellow would choose, even though it was pretty obvious he'd go with Zerg. I get the feeling the show is pretty scripted.
Regardless of which, it's fun to watch. American "reality" television can be entertaining, too, and it takes a pretty substantial suspension of disbelief to watch it, also.
On August 20 2011 02:31 Flash_one wrote: Guess nobody in the foreign community found out about Nal_rA playing SC2 on he's own time these days huh Now i'm going to find it for u guyz
See this is exactly why this needs to go under the sc2 section. We're gonna get spammed to death with "so and so is playing sc2 now". Like we don't care about sc2 this is why It's under BroodWar not the other way around.
Too bad I already know nal ra was playing sc2 in his free time so is that the reason these should go in to sc2 forum ? I beg your pardon No it shouldn't I don't want yellow thread to spam again and again and only is important when the show is being broadcasted so no I want this thread to remain here .
Every time i go to the sc2 forum i see yellow thread found no where only to be toppled by nasl,mlg and all the latest hype in sc2 .I want yellow's accession to the next stage of his career to be viewed by the broodwar player and to all of us who still is a fan of him. Just because he has change profession that doesn't mean he isn't old yellow . That's the reason the thread was made in bw section for those who wants to see yellow still going all out for it hence that's why this thread will remain in broodwar and I am not allowing this thread to be move into sc2 .
Yes but, once again you fail to understand the reason this thread does not belong here. This thread was made to follow him in Sc2 through a show. Even if you are a fan dude I don't recall seeing threads about Boxer in the BW section following his sc2 career. I'm glad yellow showed up to the finals to support his team but, that doesn't change my opinion of what i think about this thread.
Boxer is boxer i am only fan of him through his terran games but never a loyal fan to him because my loyalty stays to kt and anything has got to do with kt gets a thread from me for him being the pillar of my team and the veteran who made it possible for kt to survive this long . So your opinion is your opinion and it stays like that . I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be here and i said again i don't want yellow thread to be some sort of a spam with bullshits like this and again if you want to discuss about the show you are permitted and not pointless stuff like this .DERAILS ,OFFTOPIC AND personal attack to the thread by you . Yellow came to see his former team mates win the final and i can bet you he is crying with joy too and as a kt fan he always be KTF.YELLOW .
THE KONG the guy who made survive and made a lot of sacrifice to become a progamer at broodwar only surviving on ramen cups and living in the pc bank for months just to become a progamer . These man deserves a place for him broodwar and even though it's sc2 that doesn't mean we bw fan's must let him go and not post about him . This thread is made in mind that bw fans who don't want to get involve in sc2 as they minimized and ignore it and yet wants to keep in touch of their veteran this is the thread for them .
Edit If you are not happy with the thread there is a thread in sc2 where you can talk all day about why the existence of yellow in sc2 is a farce and etc . No one's going to counter you and probably join in the hype bandwagon and start shouting out the same slogan with you . Again when i check sc2 thread yellow thread has been disappeared into the deep abyss ...... what is yellow to them ? some sort of a joke ? probably some bw noob who wants to get famous in sc2 ? Not hype enough ? Number two ? It seems so many thing in sc2 takes precedent over a player that has left a huge mark in the history of broodwar creating rivalries and he being the badguy as the one who opposed boxer made broodwar fun .
I cringe every time I see yellow thread disappears from the sc2 forum only to be topple over something that doesn't even have any meaning to me and these only solidifies my stand that these thread must remain here for not only me as a yellow fan but a thread where it remains for anyone to see it and it's not only for sc2 or bw players but to anyone who wants to have a good jolly time with yellow .
I cringe every time I see yellow thread disappears from the sc2 forum only to be topple over something that doesn't even have any meaning to me and these only solidifies my stand that these thread must remain here for not only me as a yellow fan but a thread where it remains for anyone to see it and it's not only for sc2 or bw players but to anyone who wants to have a good jolly time with yellow .
So let me see if I understood this right. You want the thread to stay up there at all times. That means it has to be bumped fairly often. And, you rage when it goes down.
Well...people post in other threads too! And so much shit going around with player transfers, interviews, discussions etc.etc all sorts of things, so yes some important threads go under.
Also, the thread is primarily about the show, not YellOw. So, his fanclub would be a better place to discuss directly about him (and that would stay up longer)
Since the other thread is mainly about the show itself, it is natural that it may disappear. after the show airs and it is finished (and some discussion going on etc.)
So much arguments over the thread that has nothing to do with yellow and i am done getting depressed over it . Going to watch this over and over again until episode 3 is up
On August 21 2011 00:29 Sawamura wrote: So much arguments over the thread that has nothing to do with yellow and i am done getting depressed over it . Going to watch this over and over again until episode 3 is up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzDGNBKplVw
i remember watching this game live, still gives me chills
yeah bisu didn't see it coming and the girls screaming was the most epic experience i ever had in starcraft broodwar T_T . I really wish yellow would help us do a favour and destroy all the competition in sc2 .
On August 21 2011 00:29 Sawamura wrote: So much arguments over the thread that has nothing to do with yellow and i am done getting depressed over it . Going to watch this over and over again until episode 3 is up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzDGNBKplVw
Hahahaaa! such an epic cheese. And the singlefinger facepalm from bisu afterwards. i mean i knew it was over but i just wanted to hear the epic GG that would ensue.
Anyway project A episode 3 is gonna be aired during gstl today i believe!
@shaoling project A episode 3 will be on tomorrow not today because it is still thursday in malaysia here so I guess it should be tomorrow as gom usually releases it on friday .
Why is it that Yellow was never able to win an MSL or OSL? Is he actually really affected by nerves when it came down to the very end or were there other factors that prevented him from ever winning the big games?
On August 26 2011 20:53 Emporio wrote: Why is it that Yellow was never able to win an MSL or OSL? Is he actually really affected by nerves when it came down to the very end or were there other factors that prevented him from ever winning the big games?
Hard to give you an accurate answer as I am not yellow but i think it's probably more than that maybe luck ? We will never know until you ask yellow question directly . Jing Ho would gladly answer you i guess ..
In the sc2 thread it said that my beloved hero Kang Min will be making an appearance next week :o
My KT heart is now screaming so loudly for next week's episode :x Then again. The dinner table is appropriate LOL for both Yellow and Kang Min :D:D:D:D
On August 26 2011 21:02 shannn wrote: In the sc2 thread it said that my beloved hero Kang Min will be making an appearance next week :o
My KT heart is now screaming so loudly for next week's episode :x Then again. The dinner table is appropriate LOL for both Yellow and Kang Min :D:D:D:D
OMG Nal_rA and YellOw <3 <3 <3 <3 can't wait for episode 4 than TT .
On August 26 2011 21:02 shannn wrote: In the sc2 thread it said that my beloved hero Kang Min will be making an appearance next week :o
My KT heart is now screaming so loudly for next week's episode :x Then again. The dinner table is appropriate LOL for both Yellow and Kang Min :D:D:D:D
OMG Nal_rA and YellOw <3 <3 <3 <3 can't wait for episode 4 than TT .
Is Nal_rA already done with military service? I really havent been keeping up.
On August 26 2011 21:02 shannn wrote: In the sc2 thread it said that my beloved hero Kang Min will be making an appearance next week :o
My KT heart is now screaming so loudly for next week's episode :x Then again. The dinner table is appropriate LOL for both Yellow and Kang Min :D:D:D:D
OMG Nal_rA and YellOw <3 <3 <3 <3 can't wait for episode 4 than TT .
Is Nal_rA already done with military service? I really havent been keeping up.
nope nal ra isn't done with his service episode 3 is made before yellow versus boxer show match just recently . Probably nal ra visiting yellow during his free time after his shift is over ;D.
30 minutes is a bit lengthy to say "Wow, Boxer molested me and now I feel bad ". It was a crippling loss, though. Boxer beat the subtitles out of Yellow. (Seriously, GOM, what the hell?)
For the curious, here's the game in questions (no subscription needed)
tl;dr version: It was a catastrophe, to the point that fans were literally angered. While he technically won a game, Boxer was doing ceremonies the entire series. The lowlight was Yellow trying to fight 3 banshees with 3 queens, which takes good transfuses to keep the queens alive, and transfusing a full-health queen instead of the one dying
This was the first episode that felt staged, though, with the dinner conversation.
I found it interesting that of all the Zergs to watch play Boxer, they chose Idra.
On August 26 2011 23:58 Ribbon wrote: 30 minutes is a bit lengthy to say "Wow, Boxer molested me and now I feel bad ". It was a crippling loss, though. Boxer beat the subtitles out of Yellow. (Seriously, GOM, what the hell?)
For the curious, here's the game in questions (no subscription needed)
tl;dr version: It was a catastrophe, to the point that fans were literally angered. While he technically won a game, Boxer was doing ceremonies the entire series. The lowlight was Yellow trying to fight 3 banshees with 3 queens, which takes good transfuses to keep the queens alive, and transfusing a full-health queen instead of the one dying
This was the first episode that felt staged, though, with the dinner conversation.
I found it interesting that of all the Zergs to watch play Boxer, they chose Idra.
They probably chose the match between BoxeR - IdrA because it was the most recent TvZ on Tal'Darim from Boxer? O_o
On August 26 2011 23:58 Ribbon wrote: 30 minutes is a bit lengthy to say "Wow, Boxer molested me and now I feel bad ". It was a crippling loss, though. Boxer beat the subtitles out of Yellow. (Seriously, GOM, what the hell?)
For the curious, here's the game in questions (no subscription needed)
tl;dr version: It was a catastrophe, to the point that fans were literally angered. While he technically won a game, Boxer was doing ceremonies the entire series. The lowlight was Yellow trying to fight 3 banshees with 3 queens, which takes good transfuses to keep the queens alive, and transfusing a full-health queen instead of the one dying
This was the first episode that felt staged, though, with the dinner conversation.
I found it interesting that of all the Zergs to watch play Boxer, they chose Idra.
They probably chose the match between BoxeR - IdrA because it was the most recent TvZ on Tal'Darim from Boxer? O_o
[SC2 Newb]
Yup. Idra vs BoxeR was the last TvZ we saw from him aside from the Code A match against Leenock. So unless they only wanted to look at only two games, they had to go back further, and the IdrA match is the most recent thing after the Code A match.
On August 27 2011 01:06 Taekwon wrote: Why yellow =/ why sc2?
gl though
same questions i was asking when i saw nada and july shifting to sc2 despite that everytime ogs team is playing . I try to support them because by.sair and nada are still are heroes in my eyes . T_T I can't let them go down and be ignored.
On August 27 2011 01:06 Taekwon wrote: Why yellow =/ why sc2?
gl though
Because sc2 is awesome! :D
lots of bw ---> turn to sc2 scene will tell you the other way especially those veterans well they don't say it in front of the public . If sc2 is really awesome why hasn't proleague send a team made of bw players to sc2 now ? funny isn't it ?
I will say sc2 is awesome when it survives as long as bw did until now and yeah 2 pages of argument of nestea not appearing on the show where is the munchkin who made me type so much just to answer him and him bugging my thread .
Will there be a new episode tonight? Very anxious to see YellOw's progress after the lim jin rok, the episodes leading up to it have been dull, already knowing his skill level up to that
Yes there will, although he's also participating in the Code A qualifiers this weekend, so it'll sort of be a spoiler if there's more episodes. (Unless they find a way to hide who he is during the qualifiers?)
On September 02 2011 10:17 xBillehx wrote: Yes there will, although he's also participating in the Code A qualifiers this weekend, so it'll sort of be a spoiler if there's more episodes. (Unless they find a way to hide who he is during the qualifiers?)
It'd be pretty hard, they're face-to-face, broadcast (as one giant-ass VOD, though), and the winners are announced at the end of the day. I don't think anyone seriously expects Yellow to make it through, though.
On September 02 2011 10:23 theBizness wrote: I think his results this weekend might dictate how they proceed with the show?
How many episodes are there? Tomorrow's the last night of the GSTL open season. Are they going to start broadcasting Project A by itself, after the playoff games, ?. It'd be weird for tomorrow to be the last episode, even though it'd be right before the Code A qualifiers. But if (when) he got destroyed in the quals, it'd make all episodes after 4 just kind of tragic. Unless he decides to try for Code A next season, which could kind of work, as a show. But since no one expects him to make Code A, there's really no way for the show to end, is there? Either "Well, that was a total waste of time" or "I'll keep trying and join a team" are the only logical endings.
On September 02 2011 10:47 Lucumo wrote: Uh, why wasn't this thread moved to the SC2 section? It no longer belongs here.
It's in both sections. It relates to Brood War to any fans of his who may not follow SC2.
Makes no sense though. Because this means that everyone can create threads in the BW section for people like Boxer, Nada, July, Iron, ZergBong etc. They all have the same relation.
What in the jesus silvermedaling christ is the Kong dance? What the hell was that?
I didn't realize how big a deal Yellow, or even BW was in Korea until I saw MarineKing just kind of fangirling over him in a slightly creepy way. YellOw's a big deal! Who can't dance! I seriously think MK just kind of wanted to stroke YellOw's head.
On September 02 2011 22:35 marttorn wrote: Even if he doesn't make it in he's proven he can improve REALLY quickly, so if he wants to stick around in SC2 i'm 100% sure it'll work out for him.
While having three fully saturated bases before a 4gate rush hits is hilarious, that guy was silver and YellOw's macro is still underwhelming. I saw a lot of uninjected hatches and the creep spread was bad. He's got no chance against pros. The coach's casual "Play Slog, he's terrible" was funny, but it's also true, and YellOw still couldn't win. But the show's not really about that, it's just about how awesome yellow is and how everyone loves him. This show's got me watching Nal_Ra's Oldboy, and I think Yellow now is at around the level (comparatively, of course) that Nal_Ra was at the start of that show. Charitably.
On September 03 2011 00:07 sheaRZerg wrote: Does anyone else find the bullet-point style subtitles amazingly irritating.
I dont understand why they dont just provide an actual transcript.
Because it requires far less time to be done, making real subtitles is very long, also this show is aiming people that're not used to read, I cant provide the source but i read that more than 70% of the population cant follow a subbed movie because nowadays nobody reads anymore which is sad really...
On September 02 2011 10:47 Lucumo wrote: Uh, why wasn't this thread moved to the SC2 section? It no longer belongs here.
It's in both sections. It relates to Brood War to any fans of his who may not follow SC2.
Makes no sense though. Because this means that everyone can create threads in the BW section for people like Boxer, Nada, July, Iron, ZergBong etc. They all have the same relation.
On September 02 2011 10:47 Lucumo wrote: Uh, why wasn't this thread moved to the SC2 section? It no longer belongs here.
It's in both sections. It relates to Brood War to any fans of his who may not follow SC2.
Makes no sense though. Because this means that everyone can create threads in the BW section for people like Boxer, Nada, July, Iron, ZergBong etc. They all have the same relation.
did you just compare Yellow to ZergBong?
As odd as that sounds from a BW side of things, zergbong may be the most impressive SC2 player so far. Sometimes a new game means a second wind.
No disregards to the player but MKP looked like a fag in that episode, maybe he should get someone to be his manager and pick what he's wearing. And the scene in the restaurant was totally pointless, it was just 15 minutes of talking and nothing really came up from that meeting. They didn't agree to practice together, he didn't give Yellow any advice. And the other guy in the room who was MKP's teammate I guess didn't actually do anything, he just sorta stood there and ate his lunch. The episode wasn't a complete waste though, because the second part was pretty interesting and it was really about what this show should have in it. Just my 0.02$
On September 02 2011 10:47 Lucumo wrote: Uh, why wasn't this thread moved to the SC2 section? It no longer belongs here.
It's in both sections. It relates to Brood War to any fans of his who may not follow SC2.
Makes no sense though. Because this means that everyone can create threads in the BW section for people like Boxer, Nada, July, Iron, ZergBong etc. They all have the same relation.
did you just compare Yellow to ZergBong?
I also compared him to Iron who was even worse than ZergBong, so where is your point? I could have written "BW players who switched" as well.
I think if Yellow is really serious about returning to progaming, he should just focus on practicing rather than making a TV show out of it on the side. I was disappointed with him when he he joined KT again from ACE but seemed to be more focused on TV shows (Hyung Joon S2) rather than getting back to form.
Can anyone translate the messages from the Iphone they showed? Anyway in 1 month he went from bronze to masters, that's quite an achievement. There are a lot of things that happened behind the scenes, I am sure of it...
Jungmin: Hahahaha Jinho[yellow] is master's league now. Rank 10. R: With the ID he was using? Or with the slayers yellow id? Jungmin: The one he was using hahaha R: Guess he gave up that yellow ID Jungmin: The ID we gave him is also master league, going up strong, playing lots of games.
I can't make out the last word cuz I'm watching it on my phone rofl.....He's saying :Mmmm it's a shame we couldn't ______ <---- can't read it on my phone res.
On September 03 2011 00:07 sheaRZerg wrote: Does anyone else find the bullet-point style subtitles amazingly irritating.
I dont understand why they dont just provide an actual transcript.
Because it requires far less time to be done, making real subtitles is very long, also this show is aiming people that're not used to read, I cant provide the source but i read that more than 70% of the population cant follow a subbed movie because nowadays nobody reads anymore which is sad really...
It's also a really Korean style overall. It seems like they're mimicking Korean variety shows which flash keywords or phrases in Korean for comic effect.
All BW fans who love yellow shold watch part 4. if only for the dinner meeting with SC2's Kong. The conversation they have is very interesting for yellow fans for sure. Talks about the number 2 alot.
On September 03 2011 01:06 pred470r wrote: No disregards to the player but MKP looked like a fag in that episode, maybe he should get someone to be his manager and pick what he's wearing. And the scene in the restaurant was totally pointless, it was just 15 minutes of talking and nothing really came up from that meeting. They didn't agree to practice together, he didn't give Yellow any advice. And the other guy in the room who was MKP's teammate I guess didn't actually do anything, he just sorta stood there and ate his lunch. The episode wasn't a complete waste though, because the second part was pretty interesting and it was really about what this show should have in it. Just my 0.02$
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so he "looked like a fag" because of what he was wearing ? I am sorry but he had nothing weird at all, maybe it was weird for "your" standards or maybe your country "standard" which does not make him look like a fag anyway.
The reason why the brought him in is because they became friends and talked several times before and Yellow was telling him on how to deal with always coming 2nd place.
I thought that part was fun and cute (due to MKP).
The way you wrote your post.. makes you look like a dick. Just sayin
On September 03 2011 00:07 sheaRZerg wrote: Does anyone else find the bullet-point style subtitles amazingly irritating.
I dont understand why they dont just provide an actual transcript.
Because it requires far less time to be done, making real subtitles is very long, also this show is aiming people that're not used to read, I cant provide the source but i read that more than 70% of the population cant follow a subbed movie because nowadays nobody reads anymore which is sad really...
It's also a really Korean style overall. It seems like they're mimicking Korean variety shows which flash keywords or phrases in Korean for comic effect.
Can't read..?...?...? Pretty sure that just about every American who wants to watch this show knows how to read. Probably better than you think as well. That being said sometimes some of their longer subtitles would only Flash on the screen for a second making them difficult to read, but its not as if they replaced it with more subtitles, they just flashed some of them and then had a blank screen while they were still talking (Bad editing). I thought it was a really good episode though, they obviously don't show us everything (I'm sure more conversation went on at that lunch that we didn't get to see).
YellOw Looks like he will come back strong, I hope they show his matches tonight, if he plays. ^______^
On September 03 2011 01:06 pred470r wrote: No disregards to the player but MKP looked like a fag in that episode, maybe he should get someone to be his manager and pick what he's wearing. And the scene in the restaurant was totally pointless, it was just 15 minutes of talking and nothing really came up from that meeting. They didn't agree to practice together, he didn't give Yellow any advice. And the other guy in the room who was MKP's teammate I guess didn't actually do anything, he just sorta stood there and ate his lunch. The episode wasn't a complete waste though, because the second part was pretty interesting and it was really about what this show should have in it. Just my 0.02$
On September 03 2011 01:06 pred470r wrote: No disregards to the player but MKP looked like a fag in that episode, maybe he should get someone to be his manager and pick what he's wearing. And the scene in the restaurant was totally pointless, it was just 15 minutes of talking and nothing really came up from that meeting. They didn't agree to practice together, he didn't give Yellow any advice. And the other guy in the room who was MKP's teammate I guess didn't actually do anything, he just sorta stood there and ate his lunch. The episode wasn't a complete waste though, because the second part was pretty interesting and it was really about what this show should have in it. Just my 0.02$
And maybe MKP actually is gay? Who cares?
i think marineking looked kind of good
what do you want him to wear? jeans + t-shirt? thats pretty boring for a boy of his age
When I saw MKP + His "manager" eating lunch with Yellow, I instantly thought, OMG, they're inviting Yellow to Join Prime.We team... cuz it kinda started like what happened in the first episode...
On September 03 2011 01:06 pred470r wrote: No disregards to the player but MKP looked like a fag in that episode, maybe he should get someone to be his manager and pick what he's wearing. And the scene in the restaurant was totally pointless, it was just 15 minutes of talking and nothing really came up from that meeting. They didn't agree to practice together, he didn't give Yellow any advice. And the other guy in the room who was MKP's teammate I guess didn't actually do anything, he just sorta stood there and ate his lunch. The episode wasn't a complete waste though, because the second part was pretty interesting and it was really about what this show should have in it. Just my 0.02$
Personally, from the perspective of a 100 percent straight guy... MarineKing looked pretty fucking sexy what with his purple alligator long sleeve on.
Okay, maybe 99 percent straight.
But the entire point isn't to really accomplish anything in those particular scenes. I think it's really interesting to see the two "Kong" players get together and just talk about their own experiences and have their similarities outlined. Though MKP is a little bit different because he's so young and will undoubtedly accomplish even bigger things (teehee) in the scene. I felt that episode four absolutely was much better than the previous episodes because the latter half of it showed that YellOw has some real dedication and some really plausible Talent. In a month he went from being a rank 50 Gold player to being a Masters player on the Korean server. He's absolutely awesome and I'm really excited to see him back again in such good form. ^_^
On September 03 2011 01:06 pred470r wrote: No disregards to the player but MKP looked like a fag in that episode, maybe he should get someone to be his manager and pick what he's wearing. And the scene in the restaurant was totally pointless, it was just 15 minutes of talking and nothing really came up from that meeting. They didn't agree to practice together, he didn't give Yellow any advice. And the other guy in the room who was MKP's teammate I guess didn't actually do anything, he just sorta stood there and ate his lunch. The episode wasn't a complete waste though, because the second part was pretty interesting and it was really about what this show should have in it. Just my 0.02$
Personally, from the perspective of a 100 percent straight guy... MarineKing looked pretty fucking sexy what with his purple alligator long sleeve on.
Okay, maybe 99 percent straight.
But the entire point isn't to really accomplish anything in those particular scenes. I think it's really interesting to see the two "Kong" players get together and just talk about their own experiences and have their similarities outlined. Though MKP is a little bit different because he's so young and will undoubtedly accomplish even bigger things (teehee) in the scene.
The show's about YellOw dicking around, and the SC2 is basically an excuse for the dinner scenes like that. They don't even translate the SC2 advice, it's all about YellOw as a person, and that's cool.
According to liquipedia, YellOw won 3 silver medals in 2000-2001: Sherpa OnGameNet Open, Coca-Cola OSL, and KPGA Winners Championship.
In 2010-2011 (so far), MarineKing got the silver in GSL Open 2, GSL TV All-stars, Sony Ericsson GSL, GSL World Championship, It'sGosu eSports Invitational, and the Pepsi GSL Code A. That's six silver medals in less than a year. It many ways, MarineKong has already surpassed YellOw. Fanboy to the end.
On September 03 2011 01:06 pred470r wrote: No disregards to the player but MKP looked like a fag in that episode, maybe he should get someone to be his manager and pick what he's wearing. And the scene in the restaurant was totally pointless, it was just 15 minutes of talking and nothing really came up from that meeting. They didn't agree to practice together, he didn't give Yellow any advice. And the other guy in the room who was MKP's teammate I guess didn't actually do anything, he just sorta stood there and ate his lunch. The episode wasn't a complete waste though, because the second part was pretty interesting and it was really about what this show should have in it. Just my 0.02$
And maybe MKP actually is gay? Who cares?
1) who cares if he is gay? 2) I'm guessing you don't follow the SC2 scene. + Show Spoiler +
3) he is so cute i just wanna hug him and cuddle with him all night. no homo.
On September 03 2011 09:39 imperator-xy wrote: guys like him may actually turn me gay. or at least make me like to touch him and have fun with him (im not talking about having sex with him).
Have you seen the NaDa's body thread? Predatoring on dudes is the glue that holds the BW community together in times of trouble.
ETA: Yellow's Code A group just started (4pm KST), but he's asked that his early games not be broadcast
I have a $100 BW tournament planned for October. If YellOw qualifies, I'll make it a $150 tournament. I think my money's safe, though.
I had an interesting conversation with MKP in the SEA tournament i versed him in. He made it clear to me he was not gay, just to clear things up. Can't be taken as proof though :p.
According to liquipedia, YellOw won 3 silver medals in 2000-2001: Sherpa OnGameNet Open, Coca-Cola OSL, and KPGA Winners Championship.
In 2010-2011 (so far), MarineKing got the silver in GSL Open 2, GSL TV All-stars, Sony Ericsson GSL, GSL World Championship, It'sGosu eSports Invitational, and the Pepsi GSL Code A. That's six silver medals in less than a year. It many ways, MarineKong has already surpassed YellOw. Fanboy to the end.
All-stars, Code A and World Championship don't count as they are either special events or not at the highest level. Thus MKP and Yellow are equal on 3.
On September 03 2011 01:06 pred470r wrote: No disregards to the player but MKP looked like a fag in that episode, maybe he should get someone to be his manager and pick what he's wearing. And the scene in the restaurant was totally pointless, it was just 15 minutes of talking and nothing really came up from that meeting. They didn't agree to practice together, he didn't give Yellow any advice. And the other guy in the room who was MKP's teammate I guess didn't actually do anything, he just sorta stood there and ate his lunch. The episode wasn't a complete waste though, because the second part was pretty interesting and it was really about what this show should have in it. Just my 0.02$
And maybe MKP actually is gay? Who cares?
1) who cares if he is gay? 2) I'm guessing you don't follow the SC2 scene. + Show Spoiler +
3) he is so cute i just wanna hug him and cuddle with him all night. no homo.
Too many people misinterpret the style of clothing looking "gay" if you don't like it then cool, that's your opinion when in reality they're just trying to look good and there is nothing wrong with that, or being a homosexual.
On September 03 2011 09:39 imperator-xy wrote: guys like him may actually turn me gay. or at least make me like to touch him and have fun with him (im not talking about having sex with him).
Have you seen the NaDa's body thread? Predatoring on dudes is the glue that holds the BW community together in times of trouble.
ETA: Yellow's Code A group just started (4pm KST), but he's asked that his early games not be broadcast
I have a $100 BW tournament planned for October. If YellOw qualifies, I'll make it a $150 tournament. I think my money's safe, though.
On September 03 2011 01:06 pred470r wrote: No disregards to the player but MKP looked like a fag in that episode, maybe he should get someone to be his manager and pick what he's wearing. And the scene in the restaurant was totally pointless, it was just 15 minutes of talking and nothing really came up from that meeting. They didn't agree to practice together, he didn't give Yellow any advice. And the other guy in the room who was MKP's teammate I guess didn't actually do anything, he just sorta stood there and ate his lunch. The episode wasn't a complete waste though, because the second part was pretty interesting and it was really about what this show should have in it. Just my 0.02$
And maybe MKP actually is gay? Who cares?
1) who cares if he is gay? 2) I'm guessing you don't follow the SC2 scene. + Show Spoiler +
3) he is so cute i just wanna hug him and cuddle with him all night. no homo.
Too many people misinterpret the style of clothing looking "gay" if you don't like it then cool, that's your opinion when in reality they're just trying to look good and there is nothing wrong with that, or being a homosexual.
On September 03 2011 09:39 imperator-xy wrote: guys like him may actually turn me gay. or at least make me like to touch him and have fun with him (im not talking about having sex with him).
Have you seen the NaDa's body thread? Predatoring on dudes is the glue that holds the BW community together in times of trouble.
ETA: Yellow's Code A group just started (4pm KST), but he's asked that his early games not be broadcast
I have a $100 BW tournament planned for October. If YellOw qualifies, I'll make it a $150 tournament. I think my money's safe, though.
So his later games might be broadcasted or..?
Well wolf tweeted that he was willing to have his games broadcasted now. he got through the first round because his opponent didn't show. I hope they show his game in the next round ^^
Yellow won the first round on a bye, and lost the first set of the second on a technicality of some sort involving his hotkeys, but I don't know the details.
Yellow's having trouble keeping his money low. He was floating 1000/1000 for a while ;_;
Despite some macro troubles and a hotkey issue, Yellow defeats the noname 2-1. YellOw gets the noname's refinery down to 150 HP, and the noname lets it burns down :/
Noname responds by pulling all his SCVs and doing an all-in. YellOw holds it with a good flank and decent patience. Yellow now faces "Maelstrom", who I think made it to a broadcast game once, but isn't a pro
IU faces the winner of Mirdori and Replica, and the winner of that plays the winner of YellOw/Maelstrom in the round of 4 of his group. These are all no-names, so YellOw has the easiest bracket imaginable. Conspiracy! Basically, it's all no-names until the finals, and then I'm calling San making it to the other side. San's a bit washed up, but was pretty good for a while, and is a legitimate challenge. Oddly, he's not playing under the NSHoSeo tag anymore, indicating he might've left. If so, YellOw could conceivably make it through the qualifiers without facing a single person who's actually on a team.
he was floating 1000/1000 because he was waiting for his spire to finish and get a bunch of mutas straight away.
he lost the first set because he was using the wrong hotkeys and couldn't produce the stuff he needed (the players use the same computers, he didn't know that the previous guy had changed the hotkey for queens)
he won the third set, he's improved drastically. go yellow!
Just won 2-1, seems his hotkeys changed in g1, and he could produce whatever unit hence lost. Game 3 was won after a 6tank/4thor/50SCV/120pop/2base allin or something. Stalled a little, killed scv with banes, stalled until he got 200, made a sandwich with roaches, crushed him.
He's up to the ro8.
edit : ouch, if YellOw goes on to the finals he should face San, a very good protoss. Buuuuut San has a shitty vs Z record ! So..... maybe :p (dunno if the RyanBoxeR in the bracket is BoxeR?)
Just won 2-1, seems his hotkeys changed in g1, and he could produce whatever unit hence lost. Game 3 was won after a 6tank/4thor/50SCV/120pop/2base allin or something. Stalled a little, killed scv with banes, stalled until he got 200, made a sandwich with roaches, crushed him.
He's up to the ro8.
edit : ouch, if YellOw goes on to the finals he should face San, a very good protoss. Buuuuut San has a shitty vs Z record ! So..... maybe :p (dunno if the RyanBoxeR in the bracket is BoxeR?)
If San is no longer on NSHoSeo, YellOw could qualify without playing a single person on a team. RyanBoxer is a no-name, the real one is SlayerS_Boxer.
On September 03 2011 17:49 theBizness wrote: San wants to join a foreign team, but he's quite good still and IMO Yellow said his worst matchup was ZvP.
Ah, that makes sense. San's absolutely the biggest challenge in YellOw's way (which is still kind of lucky, given that it'd could've been Seed or Seal or someone). I just fight it interesting that it's a whole bracket of unemployed people.
Ok YellOw is NOT in the same bracket as BoxeR. He's in group D. So the only pro I know of is San... Slight chance maybe... probably not a chance but... you never know ;D San never won a GSL bo3 since his semi final of code S in ..march ?
On September 03 2011 17:53 Nouar wrote: Ok YellOw is NOT in the same bracket as BoxeR. He's in group D. So the only pro I know of is San... Slight chance maybe... probably not a chance but... you never know ;D San never won a GSL bo3 since his semi final of code S in ..march ?
Yup, it's actually an excellent draw for him. Literally 0 of the players up to his bracket finals have any tournament matches under their belt in SC2 (of any kind, online or offline). Might be playing under a fresh id but judging from the play in the first match it looks more like people who made the masters point cut off and came for an outside shot of qualifying + the chance a team might pick them up.
The top half of his bracket looks tough though (Revival/San/Kasyu are all good) so if he were to make the finals he'll definitely have a tough opponent there.
Fun fact: There's no Korean stream for this. This stream is set up by Torch and the English commentators on their own time (that's why it's amateurish, but Koreans get nothing)
On September 03 2011 17:57 Ribbon wrote: Fun fact: There's no Korean stream for this. This stream is set up by Torch and the English commentators on their own time (that's why it's amateurish, but Koreans get nothing)
The Korean translators have been translating the interviews in both languages for the Korean viewers, but yeah, commentary is pure English.
Protoss is doing a weird build. Spores detect. Why force a bunch and transition into DTs? To make archons, apparently (enh....)
YellOw's a little too flippant with his queens, which hurts, but he's still up a base, and not too bad off.
Edit: YellOw's dead. He lost his queens, and couldn't make enough units. He needed to keep them safe by the spores, and then he would've been able to get enough units to hold that followup. The followup itself was very unusual, though.
Next map is Daybreak, which is Match Point from BW flipped upside-down, so Yellow should be familiar with it.
On September 03 2011 18:14 Nouar wrote: These two force field practically pushed YellOw out of the qualifiers ;s
He just walked down the narrow ramp next to a sentry-heavy army. The roaches might of well have had neon signs going "Force Field us!". Terrible engagement, but it didn't even matter. His all-in was terribly executed.
Still, he did decent for a month's practice.
GOM now showing old BitByBit games on Blistering Sands, because they're angry at SC2 and want us to hate it as much as they do.
On September 03 2011 18:14 Nouar wrote: These two force field practically pushed YellOw out of the qualifiers ;s
He just walked down the narrow ramp next to a sentry-heavy army. The roaches might of well have had neon signs going "Force Field us!". Terrible engagement, but it didn't even matter. His all-in was terribly executed.
Still, he did decent for a month's practice.
GOM now showing old BitByBit games on Blistering Sands, because they're angry at SC2 and want us to hate it as much as they do.
Apologies if I'm confused, but was this the October qualifier? Or is there one for September too? The show says he's going to challenge the October qualifier but isn't this early? Or did he just warm up here? Hoping for the latter...
Apologies if I'm confused, but was this the October qualifier? Or is there one for September too? The show says he's going to challenge the October qualifier but isn't this early? Or did he just warm up here? Hoping for the latter...
There's a qualifier for every GSL and this was the September one, so yes, he basically just warmed up here and still has a good shot to make it.
Apologies if I'm confused, but was this the October qualifier? Or is there one for September too? The show says he's going to challenge the October qualifier but isn't this early? Or did he just warm up here? Hoping for the latter...
There's a qualifier for every GSL and this was the September one, so yes, he basically just warmed up here and still has a good shot to make it.
So he is going to go for October for sure? I hope he doesn't just quit after this one. I love the way he plays SC2, it's so Brood War-y (At least from what I saw on the show. Missed his games >.<)
On September 03 2011 18:21 pred470r wrote: Yellow got blocked from code A by a couple of forcefields.
He died five minutes previously. He did a terrible all-in, didn't do much with it, and got rolled by a counter-attack. All there is to say.
He means the forcefields that blocked the entrance after the forge went down, not the battle near Yellows base.
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.
Ah. Well, I think it was clutch for Maelstrom, but the underlying issue was that the Roach-Ling all-in was A.) Poorly Executed, and B.) A bad idea in general, given that the map was Daybreak and it took Moses 40 years to lead the roaches to the Protoss.
omg if you just look at this page it pretty clear that this is just an sc2 discussion in the bw section. Just because he formally played bw doesnt mean he counts as one now. He left. He's an sc2 player.
Anyway someone asked how to navigate to the vods, the url for all vods is http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/gomcam/ To navigate to it, go to http://www.gomtv.net/ Click the right part of the banner (GSL august) Then click GOMCAM (this is where all VODs which are not games are going) GOMCAM VODs are free, only need a free account and no gomplayer download required. Btw, for 36 more hours all VODs are free, it's a good occasion to introduce yourself to sc2 ^^ Recent games are pretty good compared to last year's games. (like this one http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstls1/vod/65682 (click set 2,it's winner format and iirc his next game are not bad either))
On September 05 2011 05:56 BushidoSnipr wrote: Does anyone know if he's gonna keep going, or give it up entirely?(assuming he'd prolly just play casually afterwards)
I didn't get the impression that he has the motivation to give it his all in another game. If that's because he doesn't like SC2 or because he just wants to do other things I'll not even try to answer but I would be extremely happy if we got to see him play SC2 seriously.
On September 04 2011 03:15 springtree wrote: Apologies if I'm confused, but was this the October qualifier? Or is there one for September too? The show says he's going to challenge the October qualifier but isn't this early? Or did he just warm up here? Hoping for the latter...
I just feel like this is another Nal_rA scheme from GomTV. I don't feel like YellOw has a chance in compete professionally, more of just another idea GOMTV has to earn money through a large audience.
I am a YellOw fan, and honestly I do hope that he can become a progamer, but I just don't get a serious vibe when watching the videos. Yeah they are interesting, but it seems more like a comedy bit/long interviews than his life of training.
I'm sure he is being encouraged to show his personality on camera to increase viewership, which is fine. I think he has done a lot of hard work and training off-camera to have gone from silver to masters in under a week, considering his time off from gaming and how bad he was going into it. I'm still hoping to see a YellOw slow drop in code s finals
yeah, pretty hard to say whether or not he'll keep pushing to qualify in the next prelims.
On the one hand, he's a really really proud guy, so I can't see him continuing to put energy in a situation where he continues to put his pride on the line and fail in a really public way.
On the other hand, he's a really really proud guy, so I can't see him taking public failures sitting down either.
I don't think anyone actually knows except him, and he might not know either.
They said that this show is going to be aired until Sept.10th in Korea, which Sept.9th for the west I guess. That means we still have one more episode to go. I'm sure that that's when we will learn the future of Yellow.
Yellow made it to KR master's league, got to the Code A qualifiers, and actually won a match. Don't care who you are, that requires some serious dedication. I'd be surprised if he just gives up now. Then again, if the show is ending this weekend, who knows...
I feel like when he said "I wanted it to be me and BoxeR painting a picture together, but it felt more like BoxeR was the Artist and I was the Paint."-(Paraphrased) That was his way of saying, "Okay I need to take this game more seriously and I will". He is tired of being the canvas for BoxeRs painting. To me that means he is ready to crush nerd souls.
On September 10 2011 02:21 gds wrote: Episode 5 should be released today. F5F5F5
Nope. It's going to be released tomorrow. GSL Finals.
Well that's well played by GOM. I'll probably be to busy to watch the finals so I guess we'll just have to wait till tomorrow to watch the new episode. T_T And I also wonder if the new episode is gonna start from the code A qualifiers, or from where the last episode left of.
On September 05 2011 05:56 BushidoSnipr wrote: Does anyone know if he's gonna keep going, or give it up entirely?(assuming he'd prolly just play casually afterwards)
He didn't commit either way, but it sounded like "give up".
No surprise, honestly. He quit BW because he wanted to do something else with his life, and "play a DIFFERENT game full-time" probably wasn't what he had in mind.
Edit: YellOw goes "The biggest difference between BW and SC2 is" and they forget to sub the end of that sentence. Apparently, it's that it's more important to have a team in SC2. Which I don't really agree with (BW teams are pretty important!), but I guess he'd know better than I.
On September 10 2011 21:53 lbmaian wrote: Sounds like he's not inclined because of bnet 0.2. Great job Blizzard -_-
Care to explain what happened? I missed it.
He kvetched that people were forcing him into chats and harassing him a little. That'll be fixed in the next patch, but it's massively annoying to progamers that people can do that to you right now. I don't think that was a deciding factor, though.
piss poor excuses to cover the truth: he accepted to put up with these monkeys - yes they're ridiculous, i want to shoot them - for money, but, he doesn't love sc2 and thus has no drive to give it all he's got.
Definitely sounds like "give up" but then again, it would, regardless. He could have signed the S2 contract already and would still say what he said, since they'd want people to wonder and get hyped.
On September 11 2011 01:33 sc2guy wrote: Did anybody noticed the thing on ITR's ear?
Looks like a growth or ear accessory
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Starcraft gamer need bigger brain than normal people, and sometime you are so good than your brain need space to expand so he push everywhere he can, here on the ear, the fun fact is that if you cut that space this player will instantly forget timing rush or how much cost a reaver.
What a song to end it with lol right at the end "the American Dream" haha probably would have helped more if he was in some sort of training house or with a team or something instead because it was probably easier to become unmotivated in those conditions.
On September 10 2011 22:27 Suvorov wrote: piss poor excuses to cover the truth: he accepted to put up with these monkeys - yes they're ridiculous, i want to shoot them - for money, but, he doesn't love sc2 and thus has no drive to give it all he's got.
He also lost to an amateur, don't forget, not even a progamer. He probably assumed that, as a BW pro, he could waltz into Code A easily, realized it was a sufficiently different game now that he couldn't (at this point, anyway, he could've a few months back), and decided that the amount of work it would take was more than the amount of work he was willing to put in just to ultimately win $100 or so before getting knocked out by a progamer. Since he's talking about just wanting to play on bnet now, I imagine he finds the game fun, but not "30 games a day" fun.
On September 11 2011 01:33 sc2guy wrote: Did anybody noticed the thing on ITR's ear?
Looks like a growth or ear accessory
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
Starcraft gamer need bigger brain than normal people, and sometime you are so good than your brain need space to expand so he push everywhere he can, here on the ear, the fun fact is that if you cut that space this player will instantly forget timing rush or how much cost a reaver.
Anyways I think it's sort of cool (and strange that they didn't point this out) that rainbow was sitting next to Yellow, either because they happened to be seated there or they chose to sit next to each other. Now if it's the first, it's cool because back then, Rainbow, Yellow, Nada, and Boxer were all on the same team. Way back then. So it's nice to see them back together. Now if it's the latter and they chose to sit next to each other, that's even cooler cus it shows that they're still friends <3
On September 11 2011 01:33 sc2guy wrote: Did anybody noticed the thing on ITR's ear?
Looks like a growth or ear accessory
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
Starcraft gamer need bigger brain than normal people, and sometime you are so good than your brain need space to expand so he push everywhere he can, here on the ear, the fun fact is that if you cut that space this player will instantly forget timing rush or how much cost a reaver.
That is correct, it is actually his larger medulla oblongota causing a bit of his brain to be pushed out of the side of his head
On September 11 2011 01:33 sc2guy wrote: Did anybody noticed the thing on ITR's ear?
Looks like a growth or ear accessory
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
Starcraft gamer need bigger brain than normal people, and sometime you are so good than your brain need space to expand so he push everywhere he can, here on the ear, the fun fact is that if you cut that space this player will instantly forget timing rush or how much cost a reaver.
This is awsome! Im such a big fan of Hong Jin-Ho! Would love to watch him take on players from the GSL. Would be epic to see a Boxer vs Yellow GSL final ^^
On October 13 2011 18:50 puppykiller wrote: This thread has absolutely nothing to do with BW. It is a discussion of an sc2 show that features an ex BW player. Can we please get rid of it.
yes, a broodlwar legend has absolutely nothing to do with broodwar, seems legit... why so much hate?
On October 13 2011 18:50 puppykiller wrote: This thread has absolutely nothing to do with BW. It is a discussion of an sc2 show that features an ex BW player. Can we please get rid of it.
yes, a broodlwar legend has absolutely nothing to do with broodwar, seems legit... why so much hate?
If you read any of the pages of this thread, you can see that it is in everyway an sc2 discussion. There is nothing about BW in it. Every comment in this thread is either a complaint about this thread being in the BW section, or a bunch of nonsense that is only relevant to the sc2 scene. Because sc2 has been slowly but consistently taking over teamliquid, it would be nice if the space that is dedicated to BW on tl, could stay dedicated to BW.
So you don't care at all what happens to ex-SC1 legends, how they might continue or not playing, even another game, etc. If they retire, you want to keep them in a wax museum and forget they might still be alive?
On October 13 2011 20:04 Nouar wrote: So you don't care at all what happens to ex-SC1 legends, how they might continue or not playing, even another game, etc. If they retire, you want to keep them in a wax museum and forget they might still be alive?
I, at least, don't want that.
What did I just read? Puppy isn't saying that he doesn't care. He's just saying that the thread has very little relation to Broodwar other than the fact that Yellow was a Broodwar player.
Also, the reason why some of us might not care is because there's good reason to suspect these pros won't do well anyway. Sure I think they'll just stomp on the foreigners, but that's besides the point. At the same time, there also some of us who don't even want BW players switching over to SC2, period.
Switching over SC2 for many of these people seems like a last ditch effort at some form of success. It's nostalgia and honestly, not something I'm interested in.
On October 13 2011 20:04 Nouar wrote: So you don't care at all what happens to ex-SC1 legends, how they might continue or not playing, even another game, etc. If they retire, you want to keep them in a wax museum and forget they might still be alive?
I, at least, don't want that.
What did I just read? Puppy isn't saying that he doesn't care. He's just saying that the thread has very little relation to Broodwar other than the fact that Yellow was a Broodwar player.
Also, the reason why some of us might not care is because there's good reason to suspect these pros won't do well anyway. Sure I think they'll just stomp on the foreigners, but that's besides the point. At the same time, there also some of us who don't even want BW players switching over to SC2, period.
Switching over SC2 for many of these people seems like a last ditch effort at some form of success. It's nostalgia and honestly, not something I'm interested in.
Then don't read this thread. EzPz. Don't have to get your panties all ruffled up crying to the mods trying to ruin other people's forum experience... Never understood BW elitist like you guys, trying to eradicate any knowledge of the existence of SC2.
On October 13 2011 22:10 Sawamura wrote: I think its safe to close the thread after all yellow discontinued his journey in sc2.
Did he say that? I haven't heard anything since the show was over. He did good for how little he actually played. Has anyone really heard anything about him/from him since then? I'm sure he is doing advertising T.T
On October 13 2011 22:10 Sawamura wrote: I think its safe to close the thread after all yellow discontinued his journey in sc2.
Did he say that? I haven't heard anything since the show was over. He did good for how little he actually played. Has anyone really heard anything about him/from him since then? I'm sure he is doing advertising T.T
On October 13 2011 20:04 Nouar wrote: So you don't care at all what happens to ex-SC1 legends, how they might continue or not playing, even another game, etc. If they retire, you want to keep them in a wax museum and forget they might still be alive?
I, at least, don't want that.
What did I just read? Puppy isn't saying that he doesn't care. He's just saying that the thread has very little relation to Broodwar other than the fact that Yellow was a Broodwar player.
Also, the reason why some of us might not care is because there's good reason to suspect these pros won't do well anyway. Sure I think they'll just stomp on the foreigners, but that's besides the point. At the same time, there also some of us who don't even want BW players switching over to SC2, period.
Switching over SC2 for many of these people seems like a last ditch effort at some form of success. It's nostalgia and honestly, not something I'm interested in.
Then don't read this thread. EzPz. Don't have to get your panties all ruffled up crying to the mods trying to ruin other people's forum experience... Never understood BW elitist like you guys, trying to eradicate any knowledge of the existence of SC2.
What the hell are you even saying? There was no mentioning of elitism whatsoever. I was just defending someone who was getting accused of something he didn't say.
And then I provided justification for why it's not interesting to see certain players to switch over.
What is this about trying to "eradicate knowledge of the existence of SC2"? Not only does not make any sense, it shows how little time you actually spent trying to read my post and blatantly called me an elitist as if it's a blanket term for anyone who likes BW.
This show ended weeks ago, and there is no season 2, and YellOw isn't playing anymore. There is nothing more to discuss. If fans of BW players want to talk about big name players switching, there's a thread for that in the SC2 section, and VODs to watch on TwitchTV. The only purpose this thread now serves is giving BW fans something to feel bad about
Just move it to SC2, and let it fall down, maybe people who don't go to BW section will have something to discuss. Its not breaking any rules or anything. Locking it is excessive.
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