• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:50
CEST 02:50
KST 09:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War705.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202621Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Ziemie's Starcraft 1 Prequel Campaign Mineral Boosting (2 workers/patch)
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12133 users

Flash receives MRI for wrist injury - Page 13

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 All
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 02 2011 14:03 GMT
#241
To those who say it's lack of proper health education - do you honestly think professional teams like KT or TL do not make sure their roster players apply the highest safety and caution known to science at the moment? Just because you apply a set of safety standards, and you don't get an injury, doesn't mean it guarantees health in all cases.

I honestly think a lot bigger changes are needed than using some 10-button mouse + Show Spoiler [ More details] +
(how does that help anyway; if it's used by every pro, they'd still overextend themselves to even newer levels). The devices should be such that it doesn't benefit you to stress so many muscles, bones and joints in your body, the way it is now. And don't worry about gosu-ness, it can still be preserved; I'm not talking about input devices that become the great equalizer and as a result destroy professional gaming. Just such that are specifically designed for physiologically safe gaming. Even the so called "gaming" mouse and keyboard today are far from that. Because the original concept for mouse and keyboard, as tools, comes from a different designer's goal, and gaming for years was more of a fun exploit of these devices.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Nivoh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway259 Posts
July 02 2011 15:42 GMT
#242
On July 02 2011 08:44 BrogMeister wrote:
My opinion is that the APM-romanticizing culture of esports is preventing the devolopment of ergonomic input-methods and UIs. Managing an unergonomic UI is seen as a part of the sport. Effective macros and solutions such as the 12 button mouse Razer Naga need to encouraged and not seen as cheating. The more input-intensive tasks that can be automized -- automatic marine splitting, making qued production equal to unqued, etc -- the better for long-term ergonomics and the more sustainable SC becomes as a career choice. The alternative is this.

We could just as well watch AIs play. What you're suggesting would be like replacing actual football with FIFA in the World Cup.
rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
July 02 2011 16:11 GMT
#243
On July 02 2011 08:44 BrogMeister wrote:
My opinion is that the APM-romanticizing culture of esports is preventing the devolopment of ergonomic input-methods and UIs. Managing an unergonomic UI is seen as a part of the sport. Effective macros and solutions such as the 12 button mouse Razer Naga need to encouraged and not seen as cheating. The more input-intensive tasks that can be automized -- automatic marine splitting, making qued production equal to unqued, etc -- the better for long-term ergonomics and the more sustainable SC becomes as a career choice. The alternative is this.


LOL dude, get out and go play chess or for you better will rather be checkers. These are more suitable for you.

Plz no ban. I had to do this, can't stand such people...
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
July 02 2011 16:26 GMT
#244
On July 02 2011 08:44 BrogMeister wrote:
My opinion is that the APM-romanticizing culture of esports is preventing the devolopment of ergonomic input-methods and UIs. Managing an unergonomic UI is seen as a part of the sport. Effective macros and solutions such as the 12 button mouse Razer Naga need to encouraged and not seen as cheating. The more input-intensive tasks that can be automized -- automatic marine splitting, making qued production equal to unqued, etc -- the better for long-term ergonomics and the more sustainable SC becomes as a career choice. The alternative is this.

Pitching is really hard on the pitcher's arms, lets just give him a machine that pitches for him so he can just sit on the mound selecting the pitches he wants.
FiLmBoT
Profile Joined June 2011
United States107 Posts
July 02 2011 19:55 GMT
#245
why are some many people getting hurt TLO and now flash two?
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
July 02 2011 20:12 GMT
#246
On July 03 2011 04:55 FiLmBoT wrote:
why are some many people getting hurt TLO and now flash two?

Problem is that Flash is playing SCBW which is far more micro-intensive than SC2. So TLO hopefully will be okay, while Flash's injury might cost him his entire career.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
Prev 1 11 12 13 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
The QMC Showmatch 1
CranKy Ducklings59
OSC
08:00
Masters Cup #151: Group A
davetesta23
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 7617
Rain 1672
GuemChi 1228
Artosis 698
Dota 2
monkeys_forever296
NeuroSwarm237
League of Legends
Doublelift5637
Counter-Strike
minikerr20
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe145
Other Games
FrodaN2005
Liquid`RaSZi1777
JimRising 514
C9.Mang0476
Livibee420
Maynarde137
ArmadaUGS39
Mew2King37
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1144
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 136
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP40
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1311
• Scarra1237
• Shiphtur653
Upcoming Events
OSC
11h 10m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 10h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 23h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Online Event
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.