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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
June 27 2011 18:30 GMT
#201
Good news, and in true Ultimate Weapon-status... he can be repaired. He will be stronger, faster, better.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 27 2011 19:08 GMT
#202
On June 28 2011 02:17 djbhINDI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 23:27 GreEny K wrote:
Wonder how he did it... Shoulder problems like that shouldn't develop from gaming.

It's a wrist problem.


Though shoulder problems also can come from gaming (Boxer had some right at the end of his BW career).

It's a little insane that they're letting him play with a serious injury, though. What if they do further damage to his arm!? Maybe it's not that that serious, but I can't imagine Flash's doctor okayed playing with a hurt arm when playing was what hurt his arm in the first place. He should go on hiatus, heal properly, and then come back when he's ready.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines594 Posts
June 27 2011 20:45 GMT
#203
insert bionic arm jokes?
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines594 Posts
June 27 2011 21:02 GMT
#204
On June 28 2011 05:45 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
insert bionic arm jokes?


yellow retires, flash is injured, KT takes a huge blow in both strength and mentality
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
June 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#205
On June 28 2011 06:02 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 05:45 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
insert bionic arm jokes?


yellow retires, flash is injured, KT takes a huge blow in both strength and mentality


I cannot resist:

And guess who's in first place in Proleague? see sig


But really, I do hope Flash recovers, it would actually be terrible for eSports if the most dominating player of all is forced out due to health reasons.
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
June 27 2011 21:20 GMT
#206
wow this is awful .... I can't believe that this is the state he's in ...

KT is over hahah?

i hope he can heal though. best wishes flash!!!
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
June 27 2011 21:33 GMT
#207
it would be so sad if he had to finish his career...

I mean, I dont even like him that much but, He is an awesome player and he brought us an extreme amount of very entertaining games

get well soon !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
June 27 2011 21:34 GMT
#208
I see some problems with working hours/conditions for these korean gamers, it's like they are being taken advantage of because they are kids and healthy at the beginning. I wonder how many gamers end up like Flash after a few years, and really... how many can afford being treated by the best medical team -- as in Flash's case.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
June 27 2011 21:50 GMT
#209
whatever is wrong with him, i just hope he has a speedy and full recovery for his sake, and for his fans, so that he can continue his successful and entertaining career. get well soon flash
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
June 27 2011 22:26 GMT
#210
Shit man, Flash get better soon. Good thing KT doesn't need Flash in proleague at the moment.
crown77
Profile Joined February 2011
United States157 Posts
June 27 2011 22:34 GMT
#211
Flash has been the reason I play Terran and the reason I love starcraft. Seeing him hurt is a terrible feeling. I'm hopeful some time off and therapy will get him better again. I also think it's awful they made him play with pain killers... obviously that's going to screw up his play
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
June 27 2011 22:53 GMT
#212
sounds like they are doing this quick treatment to get him ready for the upcoming OSL, which could be his final shot at passing NaDa the way this is looking
LuciferSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada535 Posts
July 01 2011 19:28 GMT
#213
Hopefully KesPa will take this as a warning to give proper monitoring/medical care benefit to the progamers.
Come get some
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 01 2011 20:01 GMT
#214
Recent injuries of such amazing players as Flash and TLO are very deeply saddening, and make me review the whole premise of esports. I think we have a unique situation - a cultural phenomenon has risen of enormous importance in many people's lives, yet, it was never designed as such.

What I mean is: we play with keyboard and mouse. These input devices were not designed to be used in the intensive way we use them for gaming. And it's not just a kid's hobby anymore, it has become a serious sport that pushes to the limits of the human being.

So, it's probably time to think about redesigning the input devices for gaming, so that they do not cause injuries even after many years of dedicated effort. I know some would think this to be an exaggeration, but I expect at some point people to consider this issue.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 01 2011 20:06 GMT
#215
In the distance, jaedong wishes you could /dance BW zerglings...
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 01 2011 21:18 GMT
#216
On July 02 2011 05:01 figq wrote:
Recent injuries of such amazing players as Flash and TLO are very deeply saddening, and make me review the whole premise of esports. I think we have a unique situation - a cultural phenomenon has risen of enormous importance in many people's lives, yet, it was never designed as such.

What I mean is: we play with keyboard and mouse. These input devices were not designed to be used in the intensive way we use them for gaming. And it's not just a kid's hobby anymore, it has become a serious sport that pushes to the limits of the human being.

So, it's probably time to think about redesigning the input devices for gaming, so that they do not cause injuries even after many years of dedicated effort. I know some would think this to be an exaggeration, but I expect at some point people to consider this issue.

This is not just an issue for gaming. Many office workers and other frequent computer users get RSI (and other less frequent injuries) from usage of mouse and keyboard. People have tried to come up with better alternatives. See for instance ergonomic keyboards and trackballs. However in the end we haven't been able to find as effective input methods that do not cause injury with about the same frequency. Good posture, frequent breaks, etc. minimizes the risk, but does not eliminate it. If the input device industry has not been able to provide a good alternative to the hundreds of millions of workers using keyboard and mouse in their day job, then I doubt that pressure from a comparatively very small industry such as e-sports will have any luck. People have considered the issue and continue to do so. Partial solutions have been found, but no real good one. A few starcraft players getting injuries is not going to register on their radar.

I think the best solution is to regularly check the condition of progamers and also to make sure that they follow good practices when it comes to mouse and keyboard usage. It is nice that kt seems to be giving flash a break, but I wonder if this whole thing could have been preempted if they had taken it more seriously and worried about Flash's health over proleague record when symptoms first started showing up. It obviously must be hard for kt to tell flash to sit a couple of matches out while getting dominated in proleague. It would probably be even harder for Flash himself to decide that he needs a break rather than practice 24/7 for that OSL/MSL final coming up vs Jaedong. However it would probably have been in both kt and flash's interest to have restricted his practice and eliminated him from at least non-essential matches.



On July 02 2011 05:06 lorkac wrote:
In the distance, jaedong wishes you could /dance BW zerglings...

I really doubt it. Jaedong and Flash have been reported to be on friendly terms with eachother. I doubt Jaedong, or any progamer really, wants it to end like this. This is a terrible way for such a skilled progamer to be possibly getting out of the scene. I wouldn't have minded so much if a new genius presented himself, or if Jaedong/Stork/Bisu started dominating everyone and forced Flash to assume a position of just a good player relative to them, but at the moment everyone knows that Flash would be the best if he could continue as usual. If someone (likely Jaedong if anyone) starts dominating in the months where Flash focuses on his injury, then their reign will always be tainted somewhat by the fact that they haven't really proved themselves superior to the ultimate weapon. I'm really sad it has come to this and believe that no true starcraft fan is happy about Flash's current condition.

Flash was who got me interested in professional bw in the first place. The first pro bw match I ever saw was flash vs stork in gom classic. This better not be the last we have seen from Flash. I wish him a good (and hopefully speedy) recovery, and then he can start owning it up again. Lee Young Ho fighting!
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
July 01 2011 21:44 GMT
#217
I think KT fans will send a bunch of SCVs to repaire him, so he will get back to full health in no time.
Khassar de Templari
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
July 01 2011 22:23 GMT
#218
This might open the field for effort haha
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
July 01 2011 22:28 GMT
#219
Where's a medic when you need one?
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
July 01 2011 22:45 GMT
#220
Get well, <3
Not even death can save you from me.
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