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Flash2.
Jaedong3.
Hydra4.
Fantasy5.
Stork6.
Bisu7.
ZerO8.
Calm9.
Sea10.
KalSource: DailyESPORTS (허준)
June 2011 KeSPA Ranking
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GTR
51566 Posts
1. Flash2. Jaedong3. Hydra4. Fantasy5. Stork6. Bisu7. ZerO8. Calm9. Sea10. KalSource: DailyESPORTS (허준) | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37064 Posts
I think Flash is going to set up his bonjwa status again :D Step 1: grab #1 spot in PR | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
All is right in the world again. :D Kinda weird Stork is still up there, he hasn't been winning much lately. =x | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On June 01 2011 13:12 K3Nyy wrote: Flash is on the top again! All is right in the world again. :D Kinda weird Stork is still up there, he hasn't been winning much lately. =x Kespa points stick around for quite a while. | ||
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moopie
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Deletrious
United States458 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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rickybobby
United States405 Posts
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
SHIN DONG WOO FIGHTING | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On June 01 2011 13:39 FakePlasticLove wrote: Bisu is behind Stork? Wat kal still 10 as well | ||
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
most of all.. fantasy is 4th... never deserved to be rank 1/2/3. | ||
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champignones
Panama160 Posts
On June 01 2011 13:45 pred470r wrote: Flash #1, and JD #2, the natural order of the world is restored. Yes sir, its how it always should have been, fantasy and jd got lucky the past months. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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4vvhiplash7
South Africa392 Posts
On June 01 2011 13:07 Seeker wrote: YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FLASH!!!!!!! I think Flash is going to set up his bonjwa status again :D Step 1: grab #1 spot in PR Flash fan with a T1 logo? Respect man...  | ||
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Noel Vermillion
Canada218 Posts
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a7choi
United States1664 Posts
social order has once again been established | ||
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
not bad, but won't keep the itchy sc1 blood away for long. | ||
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champignones
Panama160 Posts
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zlosynus
Czech Republic339 Posts
On the other news, hoping for Hydra to beat Flash. No cheap 3rd MSL gold for Flash! | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7834 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37064 Posts
Hehe, nope. I love T1 with a motha f*ckin passion. But as a T user, I cannot help but root for Flash. He's so boss..... | ||
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Keone
United States812 Posts
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
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PBC
167 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
Edit: Stork is ahead of bisu because stork got a lot of points for OSL silver. A lot of points come from golds and silvers in the past year. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
Leta +5 spots Horang2 +5 spots FBH +7 spots yay! ^_^ | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
bisu sixth cus of sick PL performance. Zero only at 7th too inconsistent.Kal still there cus of his like 3 or 4 semi final appearances last year I bet. | ||
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hns
Germany609 Posts
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SiCkO_
United States481 Posts
oh well, At least Fantasy is still in 4th, though Kal and Calm being Top 10 is pretty ridiculous. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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trexbqs
Malaysia1731 Posts
By the way, thanks for the news. | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:02 SiCkO_ wrote: huh, weird oh well, At least Fantasy is still in 4th, though Kal and Calm being Top 10 is pretty ridiculous. Has clam ever left top 10? | ||
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koreasilver
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:09 koreasilver wrote: wtf hydra is third? That Hydra, dashing the hopes of a TBLS top 4. What a combo breaker, that Hydra. Fantasy, too. | ||
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SkyLegenD
United States304 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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a7choi
United States1664 Posts
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:22 a7choi wrote: does anyone know why flash's name always has a 1 next to it? He has the same name as Lucifer, and they need some way to distinguish the two. Lucifer debuted first so he's Flash, and Flash is Flash1. Same reason why Calm is Calm1, because of Hery. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50645 Posts
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
I'd prefer a different order, but this will suffice. ^_^ | ||
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moochu
Australia374 Posts
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KTF_CloaK
Netherlands1338 Posts
God is on top again, as it should be | ||
Smix
United States4549 Posts
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
11. Mind12. Neo.G_Soulkey13. great14. Leta15. Stats16. Light17. free18. RorO19. HiyA20. Killer21. BaBy22. Tyson23. Snow24. HyuN25. Horang226. Action27. Really28. Movie29. Shine30. firebathero | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On June 01 2011 13:51 champignones wrote: Yes sir, its how it always should have been, fantasy and jd got lucky the past months. yes he luckily killed flash 2 times nothing involves luck with jaedong just determination but fantasy was luck i agree was in a moment where jaedong and flash were not dominant and osl win is a boost of points | ||
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4vvhiplash7
South Africa392 Posts
On June 01 2011 14:24 Seeker wrote: Hehe, nope. I love T1 with a motha f*ckin passion. But as a T user, I cannot help but root for Flash. He's so boss..... Very true... | ||
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
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buhhy
United States1113 Posts
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The_Piper42
United States426 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Doughboy
United States721 Posts
On June 01 2011 14:55 Iplaythings wrote: Kal still there cus of his like 3 or 4 semi final appearances last year I bet. Kal only had 2 semi final appearances last year and one of them was the 09-10(Nate?) msl, I think he played in January iirc. Glad to see ZerO at 7th and SK at 12th, I think they have it in them to continue to move up. If ZerO manages to win this MSL hopefully he'll break top 4 or 5 ^^ | ||
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Pangpootata
1838 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:22 a7choi wrote: does anyone know why flash's name always has a 1 next to it? I would guess that it is because some programers have the same name so it is to differentiate him from lucifer. Calm also has a 1 behind his name, and he has the same name as hery. | ||
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mnesthes
5433 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:16 SkyLegenD wrote: anyone else surprised calm and kal are still in the top10? For Calm, not at all. Kespa gives more weight to individual leagues and despite his proleague mediocrity Calm has made so many Ro8/Ro4 it's no surprise at all. | ||
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alypse
2771 Posts
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Rhaegar99
Australia1190 Posts
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Fleuria
England466 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Caos2
United States1728 Posts
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VGhost
United States3616 Posts
Top 10: 1. SK Telecom T1 2 (4. Fantasy, 6. Bisu) 2. STX SouL 2 (8. Calm, 10. Kal)3. KT Rolster 1 (1. Flash)4. Hwaseung OZ 1 (2. Jaedong)5. CJ Entus 1 (3. Hydra)6. Samsung KHAN 1 (5. Stork)7. Woongjin Stars 1 (7. ZerO)8. MBCGame HERO 1 (9. Sea)9. Air Force ACE 0 9. WeMade FOX 0 Top 30: 1. Woongjin Stars 5 (7. ZerO, 12. Neo.G_Soulkey, 16. Light, 17. free[gm], 27. Really)2. CJ Entus 5 (3. Hydra, 14. Leta, 23. Snow, 25. Horang2, 28. Movie)3. WeMade FOX 4 (11. Mind, 18. RorO, 21. BaBy, 29. Shine)4. Hwaseung OZ 3 (2. Jaedong, 19. HiyA, 20. Killer)5. KT Rolster 3 (1. Flash, 15. Stats, 26. Action)6. MBCGame HERO 3 (9. Sea, 22. Tyson, 24. HyuN)7. SK Telecom T1 2 (4. Fantasy, 6. Bisu)8. Samsung KHAN 2 (5. Stork, 13. great)8. STX SouL 2 (8. Calm, 10. Kal)10. Air Force ACE 1 (30. firebathero) | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6184 Posts
can't wait, go Flash !! | ||
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primebeef
United States140 Posts
FBH went up a few spots but thought he would go higher | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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VGhost
United States3616 Posts
On June 01 2011 22:15 Dubzex wrote: Bisu behind Stork, really??? Hint: Stork passed group stage of the MSL. That's the way the ranking works. | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
Stork was in the OSL finals and MSL Ro8 at the start of the year (relevant by Kespa standards). He also advanced a round further than Bisu in the recent MSL. This is no surprise. Though Bisu will pass him next month if he has a better Proleague record in June. | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
Grtz for Flash being back in 1st though, hope you stay there for a while (till God gets stung by a Bee and drop down of course  ).. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10342 Posts
hmm... hydra at #3??? not for long... | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On June 01 2011 21:40 flamewheel wrote: Cool, so pretty much whoever wins this MSL is #1 for July, right? If zero beats Flash in the finals he will not be #1 over Flash. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On June 01 2011 14:46 trifecta wrote: Soulkey +4 spots Leta +5 spots Horang2 +5 spots FBH +7 spots yay! ^_^ all is becoming right with the world. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
</3 Calm Kal | ||
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
On June 01 2011 13:39 FakePlasticLove wrote: Bisu is behind Stork? Wat Its a weighted ranking with a long time constant so relatively old individual league accomplishments bias it away from a balanced rating like elo. | ||
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
On a more serious note.... I surely hope that Bisu keeps his momentum when PL rolls around again.. With Jaedong looking a little off again, its a good time to show the world whos boss :D | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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sharky246
1197 Posts
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VGhost
United States3616 Posts
On June 02 2011 00:49 frodoguy wrote: why does flash and calm have 1 beside their names? Because there are other players with the same name. Flash and LuCifer (WeMade, ex-KT Protoss) are both 이용호. The other 김윤환 (according to TLPD) is Hery who iirc was with KT and Woongjin. | ||
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iloveav
Poland1481 Posts
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KristianJS
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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b0lt
United States790 Posts
On June 02 2011 00:49 frodoguy wrote: why does flash and calm have 1 beside their names? | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
It's awesome that Hydra is #3 imo | ||
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Deletrious
United States458 Posts
On June 02 2011 02:32 ]343[ wrote: KeSPA website has these up too at http://www.e-sports.or.kr/static/Eng/ranking.kea Wow thanks for the link, they have a lot of english content. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
Tyson being the 6th best Protoss in the world. He has been doing alright since December, but it just seems wrong to have him ahead of Snow and Movie. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On June 01 2011 14:44 hacklebeast wrote: How does kal not drop? He hasn't done anything significant since a Ro4 appearance in the 1st korean air osl right? He is definitely not a top 10 player ATM, and the system is really weird to allow for him to have enough points to hang around. Edit: Stork is ahead of bisu because stork got a lot of points for OSL silver. A lot of points come from golds and silvers in the past year. Last season Kal was one of the few guys to advance to Ro8 in both leagues, and I'm pretty sure that WCG is also still on there. I think he did lose his semifinal from 2010 though. Expect him to start dropping. KeSPA rank really is a long term accomplishments rank and Kal was strong in most of 2010. That still shows up there. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On June 02 2011 02:32 ]343[ wrote: KeSPA website has these up too at http://www.e-sports.or.kr/static/Eng/ranking.kea booo kespa website. yay tlpd! | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
But... how is Calm still there ? :o | ||
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k.taeyang
Peru145 Posts
Bisu is 7-2 in May and he only got 12.7+ pts ..... Ranking system is so stupid.... | ||
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figq
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On June 02 2011 06:29 Necosarius wrote: Flash!! :D But... how is Calm still there ? :o He makes semis and round of 8-s constantly, if you haven't noticed. Name me players who do it more often and are lower. | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
this game is so balanced =] | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On June 02 2011 06:50 k.taeyang wrote: Lol. Bisu is 7-2 in May and he only got 12.7+ pts ..... Ranking system is so stupid.... Yeah but he hasn't made it past a Ro16 in an individual league in two years now. | ||
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:22 a7choi wrote: does anyone know why flash's name always has a 1 next to it? Obviously because he's just that good :D | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On June 02 2011 06:59 mustaju wrote: He makes semis and round of 8-s constantly, if you haven't noticed. Name me players who do it more often and are lower. at first i thought you were talking about sea then i remember group of death | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
Source: KESPA 1. Hydra 1338.82. Jaedong 1222.53. Flash 1072.54. Stork 1068.85. Calm 1046.36. Fantasy 971.37. ZerO 881.38. Mind 701.39. great 626.310. Kal 596.311. Hyuk 581.312. Leta 573.813. Modesty 482.414. Neo.G_Soulkey 471.015. Sea 468.816. free 461.317. Shine 435.018. Grape 424.919. Bisu 390.020. Light 382.5 | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
Source: KESPA 1. Bisu 1539.02. Flash 1338.53. Fantasy 1218.84. Jaedong 1155.05. Stats 978.06. Sea 937.57. Stork 912.08. Hydra 900.09. ZerO 822.010. BaBy 811.511. Killer 762.012. Neo.G_Soulkey 708.013. Light 702.014. Movie 693.015. Bogus 678.016. Kal 657.0Tyson 657.018. RorO 645.019. HyuN 637.520. HiyA 622.5 | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On June 02 2011 09:05 jpak wrote: For some context, this is the individual ranking (Individual leagues only) Source: KESPA 1. Hydra 1338.82. Jaedong 1222.53. Flash 1072.54. Stork 1068.85. Calm 1046.36. Fantasy 971.37. ZerO 881.38. Mind 701.39. great 626.310. Kal 596.311. Hyuk 581.312. Leta 573.813. Modesty 482.414. Neo.G_Soulkey 471.015. Sea 468.816. free 461.317. Shine 435.018. Grape 424.919. Bisu 390.020. Light 382.5Hydra is fit to be champion | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On June 02 2011 08:39 Crisium wrote: Calm has been the most successful individual league progamer from 2009-2011 next to Flash and Jaedong. Sure Clam takes over more than we'd like, especially in proleague, but the guy makes consistent deep runs starleague after starleague. Agreed, except that I'd say Fantasy is tied with Calm. Even excluding his 2008 Incruit silver, Fantasy has one silver medal over Calm, which counterbalances Calm's greater number of semifinals and quarterfinals. | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
On June 02 2011 12:09 Djabanete wrote: Agreed, except that I'd say Fantasy is tied with Calm. Even excluding his 2008 Incruit silver, Fantasy has one silver medal over Calm, which counterbalances Calm's greater number of semifinals and quarterfinals. Ah true, Fantasy's 2nd Silver did come in 2009. Fantasy and Calm together have owned the individual leagues (under LeeSsang of course). If silly Effort didn't retire he may have won another by now. He better be good again. | ||
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Doughboy
United States721 Posts
On June 02 2011 11:41 c3rberUs wrote: Bisu's ranking in PL (19) and Individual league (1) is so different...... not surprising though. Looks like you got the numbers switched, but I think you knew what you meant :u. Indeed, the numbers aren't surprising, but the very reality of Bisu's individual league performance is. | ||
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
Seems weird that those points are sticking around THAT long...is it for half a year or something? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On June 02 2011 14:49 Z3kk wrote: So are KeSPA rankings determined by points or are they arbitrarily decided? :o Seems weird that those points are sticking around THAT long...is it for half a year or something? By points, and points stick up to 1 year (though they start decaying after 3 months). http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/KeSPA_Ranking points due to results from the last 3 months are applied 100%, but for every month afterwards, 10% of the points gained “decays” (so basically a game played 3+ months ago would count for only 90% of the points it was worth, 4+ months 80% until 12 months afterwards when it would count 0%). Because of this “decay” system described above, KeSPA rankings are sometimes slow in reflecting how well players have been doing. edit: interesting that Stork/Bisu always fought for 1st. | ||
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Jragon
Australia1471 Posts
If he and FBH both get in form at the same time I foresee a Terran renaissance | ||
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Sworn
Canada920 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Svennedude
Belgium86 Posts
On June 01 2011 14:09 champignones wrote: flash will have a hard time against hydra, look at what spot he is in, i dont think we can say flash will roflstomp him lol I just watched the msl semi finals and... *cough* *cough* | ||
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
On June 02 2011 14:46 Doughboy wrote: Looks like you got the numbers switched, but I think you knew what you meant :u. Indeed, the numbers aren't surprising, but the very reality of Bisu's individual league performance is. To be fair though, Bisu's monstrous form only stabilised by this MSL, and then he was thrown into the group of Death, manually rotated by Hydra in a way that will make it as sure as possible that he wont get out of that group. It wasnt THAT much of a surprise that any player in group D was eliminated (granted Flash dropping out would be more surprising than the rest). I maintain that if Bisu was in another grp, or even if he had to play JD/Sea in his 1st game, things could have looked really different. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On June 02 2011 09:14 jpak wrote: And here's the Proleague portion: Source: KESPA 1. Bisu 1539.02. Flash 1338.53. Fantasy 1218.84. Jaedong 1155.05. Stats 978.06. Sea 937.57. Stork 912.08. Hydra 900.09. ZerO 822.010. BaBy 811.511. Killer 762.012. Neo.G_Soulkey 708.013. Light 702.014. Movie 693.015. Bogus 678.016. Kal 657.0Tyson 657.018. RorO 645.019. HyuN 637.520. HiyA 622.5so weird to see killer 11th and stats 5th (Im rally damn happy for it though ^^). Killer is becoming descent after all :o | ||
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Svennedude
Belgium86 Posts
he's gonna win more shit than nada, I know this :D | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On June 26 2011 20:11 Svennedude wrote: Flash all the way baby he's gonna win more shit than nada, I know this :DWe can only hope that Flash will heal properly first. Unless he is somehow able to win an individual league with very minimal practice, which would be incredible. | ||
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