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Kippers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom100 Posts
May 28 2011 14:54 GMT
#221
On May 28 2011 23:49 FakePlasticLove wrote:
brb pirating a film than crediting universal studios

With piracy / plagiarism a company could bring forward the point you are harming their interests, with translations your increasing the target market of their content which does not harm their core interests.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
May 28 2011 14:59 GMT
#222
Good thing we still have DES
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
May 28 2011 15:03 GMT
#223
Why would we have told them to stop using our translations?

Bite the hand that feeds.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 15:13:18
May 28 2011 15:12 GMT
#224
On May 28 2011 23:54 Kippers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 23:49 FakePlasticLove wrote:
brb pirating a film than crediting universal studios

With piracy / plagiarism a company could bring forward the point you are harming their interests, with translations your increasing the target market of their content which does not harm their core interests.

Dude, its FOMOS' contents. Say someone who can read both Korean/English want to check out
e-sports proceeds to go to TL instead of FOMOS.
We are essentially stealing from their site, their sponsors, etc.
Instead of bitching about how FOMOS is evil,
maybe you should be grateful, it allowed TL to steal from them all these times.
And No, just writing "Found on fomos" doesnt justify anything

On May 29 2011 00:03 sheaRZerg wrote:
Why would we have told them to stop using our translations?
Bite the hand that feeds.

Indeed .
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 15:38:54
May 28 2011 15:16 GMT
#225
Dang...Google translate doesn't even work on Fomos links

I dont have time to learn Koreanuu


Edit: It actually does, but for whatever reason wont do it automatically in my version of chrome. Obviously google translate is no substitute anyways.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
May 28 2011 15:18 GMT
#226
Wait, so we can't even link an image? Like just any random thread or blog we can't link a image of flash or jaedong that fomos took? Or does it only apply to official TL coverage stuff?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 15:23:00
May 28 2011 15:21 GMT
#227
On May 28 2011 21:51 Hekisui wrote:
So are moderators going to ban people who put in the effort to translate an interview and contribute to the community by posting it here?

We won't ban anyone... that's for sure. We're just forced to close the thread and remove the content
On May 29 2011 00:18 Count9 wrote:
Wait, so we can't even link an image? Like just any random thread or blog we can't link a image of flash or jaedong that fomos took? Or does it only apply to official TL coverage stuff?

afaik fomos doesn't distinguish between official TL coverage and stuff our community does so i guess linking images is out of the question too although I'd wait for waxangel to confirm this.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4210 Posts
May 28 2011 15:46 GMT
#228
Sad day for BW.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 28 2011 15:50 GMT
#229
On May 29 2011 00:03 sheaRZerg wrote:
Why would we have told them to stop using our translations?

Bite the hand that feeds.

AFAIK, we just asked them to cite it. They were posting direct copy/pastes without attributing the TL translator or mentioning the site, so it appeared as their translation.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 28 2011 15:54 GMT
#230
I don't know why a partnership between the two cannot be arranged. Like someone else pointed out, the images are hot linked to their website. We cite the original articles. There have been many times that I visited fomos as a result of getting my info here.
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
May 28 2011 16:04 GMT
#231
On May 29 2011 00:54 StarStruck wrote:
I don't know why a partnership between the two cannot be arranged. Like someone else pointed out, the images are hot linked to their website. We cite the original articles. There have been many times that I visited fomos as a result of getting my info here.


I believe a partnership will have to be discussed between TL and the chinese site. Similar to how kaspa has to negotiate with gretech for BW rights.


TL should ask for permission from/strike a deal with DES before something someone else takes the rights.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
May 28 2011 16:10 GMT
#232
I suppose our scene must not be incredibly important to them, but this is a silly move.

On May 28 2011 06:11 Arnstein wrote:
Well that's good to promote BW.


exactly
blue001
Profile Joined January 2009
106 Posts
May 28 2011 16:10 GMT
#233
On May 28 2011 23:49 FakePlasticLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 23:46 okum wrote:
On May 28 2011 23:30 FakePlasticLove wrote:
And remember when TL bitched that Fomos "stole" an english translation of their own article?
hahahahaha

Well, TL translators usually credit and link to the source. Translations are a a gray area of copyright, but plagiarism is plagiarism.

brb pirating a film than crediting universal studios


-> pirating a fansub of a japanese movie then crediting sony pictures
-> subbing a movie then telling people where it comes from?
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
May 28 2011 16:20 GMT
#234
It's funny that they have a copyright spat here just after the Korean BW scene was fighting against Blizzard's copyright claims. This isn't Burger King, stop trying to have it your way.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
May 28 2011 16:25 GMT
#235
This saddens me, but I guess it makes sense. I don't really understand the image issue, unless it's a hotlinking problem. Fomos just doesn't understand how the foreign scene operates. They think that if we remove the content here, people will just magically go searching for that content and find Fomos. Foreigners are going to come here, and then maybe go to Fomos (in general).
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gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
May 28 2011 16:29 GMT
#236
Guess they don't care about the foreign BW scene then :S
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 28 2011 16:34 GMT
#237
How is it infringement if noone is posting it as their own work?
:)
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 16:56:21
May 28 2011 16:41 GMT
#238
On May 29 2011 00:16 sheaRZerg wrote:
Dang...Google translate doesn't even work on Fomos links

I dont have time to learn Koreanuu


Edit: It actually does, but for whatever reason wont do it automatically in my version of chrome. Obviously google translate is no substitute anyways.


I'm guessing you're another of the many who do not know of the fomos english content that you can access by clicking "Global" on their website.

I understand why fomos did this since most people weren't aware that the global section existed, but they should've partnered with TL, which would've made them better off.
THE ANSWER IS 288
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 16:46:01
May 28 2011 16:45 GMT
#239
Fomos stock just went down 2 points.
RinesOnRx
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada74 Posts
May 28 2011 16:52 GMT
#240
I say TL pulls of a KeSPA on Fomos
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