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Vipsanius
Netherlands708 Posts
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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Ambasa
United States29 Posts
On May 28 2011 23:30 FakePlasticLove wrote: And remember when TL bitched that Fomos "stole" an english translation of their own article? hahahahaha On May 28 2011 23:49 FakePlasticLove wrote: brb pirating a film than crediting universal studios On May 29 2011 00:03 sheaRZerg wrote: Why would we have told them to stop using our translations? Bite the hand that feeds. On May 29 2011 00:12 FakePlasticLove wrote: Dude, its FOMOS' contents. Say someone who can read both Korean/English want to check out e-sports proceeds to go to TL instead of FOMOS. We are essentially stealing from their site, their sponsors, etc. Instead of bitching about how FOMOS is evil, maybe you should be grateful, it allowed TL to steal from them all these times. And No, just writing "Found on fomos" doesnt justify anything Indeed  . And this is why sometimes I wonder if the BW community is indeed worth contributing to. Don't talk about things when you have zero idea what you are talking about. Hell, I can't believe you're even going out of your way to mock contributors who brought you content and then going "lol you don't have rights because you stole!!!!!!" Don't be a fucking prick and get the hell over your retarded sense of "justice" and look at the big picture for once. There's many reasons why TL translators would complain over their work being stolen without credit taken to generate a profit. Not to mention Fomos also stole things that weren't their content pretty regularly from TL. But of course, I don't expect you to understand that. But it's people like you who give contributors a bitter taste in their mouths when they contribute. User was warned for this post | ||
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oBlade
United States5784 Posts
On May 29 2011 02:11 mikeymoo wrote: I just can't grasp anything that SDM does. It's like he wants to be business-minded and make big decisions but always ends up making (imho) bad ones. I think he moves too fast and ends up having a personality conducive to being at the center of things or a leader but without the knowledge or critical thought to use it. Casting -> insurance -> PC bang -> Fomos, is this right? It's good that he has a malleable mind, but the way he keeps changing his mind betrays that he might not think things through very rigorously. But well, I can't really wrap my head around this. TL's ads are subsistence only from what I recall, though maybe this is different with TL HQ being open. I'm reading fomos global right now, and all I see are KR ads. Do you guys from foreign IPs only see KR ads too? If they don't have an ad package for the English audience, they couldn't possibly be losing any money by the content being translated on TL. Maybe they have some plan for the future, but I don't have any idea what it could be. The best English content will always be here, the same way we couldn't pick up a KR audience worth shit if people like me stammered out articles written in Korean. So this actually started 2 months ago... and he just copy/pasted the work of TL translators on SWL Hwaseung vs SKT with no recognition for TL when TL translators always give credit or rehost pictures as bandwidth courtesy. Crediting is a basic courtesy and it means "we're amenable to talking about how your content gets used, but right now you don't release anything in English so we're going to fill that role for fans in a non-profit way." Not crediting is childish and ham-fisted. Anyway, I shouldn't give it attention, it's like a car wreck. I wouldn't bother giving them hits. A possible good result would be intermingling between KR and foreign fans, but there's a difference between KR sites and TL quality control, and none of us wants to pass the time with a bunch of ESL tdots. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
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videogames
United States103 Posts
On May 28 2011 11:02 Taekwon wrote: Disclaimer, the stuff you're about to read is pretty radical sounding and is mere conjecture, if I cross the line anywhere, just tell me: I'm actually pretty dam sure that Paul Samshit, or whatever his name is, is behind this. Call me crazy and a conspirator but I wouldn't be surprised if Paul secretly asked FOMOS to forbid using their material as a secret, backwater condition in agreeing to the IP rights for BW. In his interview he stated that he would literally kill the BW scene after all. Although it doesn't explain why DES hasn't done the same, he must've realized the majority of BW content came from FOMOS. Unfortunately, if my theory holds true, DES may or may not do the same. I'm doing my best to control my anger and prevent it form clouding my judgement but even amidst all this, it seems hard to consider otherwise. Ok, maybe it isn't but even if there were some tensions between English translations and copy pasting material on their own site, it's not at all zero sum for FOMOS. I mean, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to put in some delay between negotiations and the banning to dispel any suspicion. In addition, without the "care" of the Korean public as Wax stated, I'm sure it was thought out. After all, FOMOS or the Korean public as a whole would've easily agreed to letting TLPD out of the loop - it doesn't hurt them as much as bowing out to another more direct concession. wow just wow is there ANYTHING you won't blame Blizzard for? | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
He specifically stated that when he first got his gig as FOMOS editor, he absolutely did not want FOMOS content to be published anywhere. He made it seem as if FOMOS content is worth a lot of money and having its content posted elsewhere would lose a lot of money for FOMOS. You guys should read his articles about SC2. Complete propaganda opinions of why SC2 is dead because he wasn't hired as a consultant for Blizzard. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Do people in Korea realize how dead BW is outside of Korea? (not being sarcastic, actually asking here) On May 29 2011 04:25 broz0rs wrote: as the OP did not mention, this is ALL SuperDanielMan. He specifically stated that when he first got his gig as FOMOS editor, he absolutely did not want FOMOS content to be published anywhere. He made it seem as if FOMOS content is worth a lot of money and having its content posted elsewhere would lose a lot of money for FOMOS. You guys should read his articles about SC2. Complete propaganda opinions of why SC2 is dead because he wasn't hired as a consultant for Blizzard. If that's true then I have lost the tiny shred of respect I had for the man. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
Oh and not to mention that when he announced he would be working with fomos he also put tasteless' name everywhere, since then SDM has been ranting against SC2, going against the foreign community and this obviously has nothing to do (and kinda sounds aggressive against) tasteless' position as a sc2 caster. | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
On May 29 2011 01:54 Vipsanius wrote: My face exactly. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On May 29 2011 04:41 sharkeyanti wrote: I'm having a lot of difficulty understanding this decision, except for Fomos' photos. Though, TL uses their images with a clear FOMOS logo on them. Why do they care that a group of maybe 5k BW fans are reading an article translated into English? It's not like people are publishing this in print or something. I have a theory, and it totally revolves around SDM. It's based off no info whatsoever but it seems to be the only thing I can come up with. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. 1: SDM does all his BW stuff pre SC2 beta. 2: SC2 rolls around, SDM wants to work for blizz, they are not impressed by his performance. They say no. 3: SDM gets mad since his PC Bang is apparently not working out well (in one of his video blogs he mentioned things at the Bang were not going well and the hours sucked) 4: He develops anti-blizz/anti-sc2 feelings, and uses this bias to determine that SC2 will never take off in Korea. Now one of three things happened after, so I'll do a 5A, 5B, and 5C 5A: Fomos hires him, he jacks a TL article. When TL brings it up he feels embarrassed for stealing an article with no citation to the source, even more so since he was always someone who preached about manners and respect. Instead of admitting "yea my bad, I didn't think about it" , he gets mad and cuts off TL. 5B: Fomos hires him, he jacks a TL article. However he uses his own biased views to determine that SC2 is not flying in Korea, so it will be only a matter of time till SC2 fails worldwide and all sc2 players move back to SC1. He is preparing for this impossible and stupid scenario. 5C: Fomos hires him, he jacks a TL article. He is fully unaware of how dead BW is outside of Korea and cuts off TL thinking that FOMOS will get a massive surge of traffic from all the foreign BW fans out there. What he fails to realize is there is like not many fans left, and this is not Korea. I got to think it's 5A but who knows. Again this is based off NO EVIDENCE. I am VERY out of the loop in the behind the scenes on BW so just guessing myself here. | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
Another poster said about how we can link those other sites with translations of interviews there so I want to clarify that again, is that legal and possible on TL? Basically having a 3-party system: FOMOS Interviews (in Korean) <---> New site just for English translations and interviews <---> TL threads with basic brief summary + link of that new site Edit: While we're at it, we should also put all the archives (for safety) AND NaDa thread into that new site too if this works out. :D | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1767 Posts
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
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blubbdavid
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On May 29 2011 04:15 travis wrote: Can't people just upload translations to another site, and then link to it..? That's why I asked, no one replied. | ||
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