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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8885 Posts
May 28 2011 11:48 GMT
#201
I say we do what weve been doing anyway
seems unrealistic that they can win a court case if they took us on
listen to the guy above me
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
May 28 2011 11:49 GMT
#202
i guess the translater team has to change up the format and put the main informations into continuous text. But anyways this is bad, because the feeling of reading an original interview is different. It feels more direct.

For the pictures - you have to change them. So that they become pieces of art and you are good to go. for example make a collage of the interviewed pplayers or use some filters and stuff.
keep it deep! @zulison
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
May 28 2011 11:52 GMT
#203
More than anything, I feel that this will push foreign fans from SCBW to SC2. Without fomos articles and interviews, I feel the BW scene will be pretty stale.

Of course, if SDM and fomos manages to bring good english content on a frequent basis, then my worries are probably unfounded, but I know that I personally am not very keen on browsing a site where most the content is in a language I don't know.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 28 2011 12:04 GMT
#204
On May 28 2011 20:52 plated.rawr wrote:
More than anything, I feel that this will push foreign fans from SCBW to SC2. Without fomos articles and interviews, I feel the BW scene will be pretty stale.

Dailyesports offers almost the same content as Fomos.
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/front.php
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
May 28 2011 12:35 GMT
#205
Wow, they reserve the right to delete photos and texts translated long ago. TL guys put so much effort in this...

Copyfaggotry at its best, what can I say.
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
iG.Zeep
Profile Joined May 2008
Mexico253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 12:48:32
May 28 2011 12:46 GMT
#206
man fucking fuck this fucking god damn bullshit, wtf is wrong with fomos, fuck those piece of shit idiots

and wtf is up with TL? jesus fukin christ
next thing u know freakin mbc/ogn gonna threaten TL to stop all streams showing their channels and TL gonna go ahead and start banning like they did with gomtv restreams? --; wtf is this bullshit

BW outside of korea is alrdy having a hard enough time, theres no need for random bs like this at all


User was temp banned for this post.
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pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
May 28 2011 12:48 GMT
#207
Things were much better when the Korean community paid no attention to us.
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
May 28 2011 12:49 GMT
#208
Probably too hard to argue fair use educational purpose or for review? Surely pictures of Nada's body is to be used for both :p

The interviews aren't streamed live are they? So you cant even say you're translating yourself?

I know there are lots of lawyers and budding lawyers on TL, anyone to offer their legal opinions?

Hekisui
Profile Joined May 2011
195 Posts
May 28 2011 12:51 GMT
#209
So are moderators going to ban people who put in the effort to translate an interview and contribute to the community by posting it here?
MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
May 28 2011 13:07 GMT
#210
On May 28 2011 21:51 Hekisui wrote:
So are moderators going to ban people who put in the effort to translate an interview and contribute to the community by posting it here?



I think so..in order to prevent fomos taking TL to the court..
ovrpwrd
Sajiki
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany522 Posts
May 28 2011 13:15 GMT
#211
ok ive just now read the interview of the msl ro4 winner on fomos and .. well its really awfully translated
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 28 2011 13:18 GMT
#212
On May 28 2011 22:15 Sajiki wrote:
ok ive just now read the interview of the msl ro4 winner on fomos and .. well its really awfully translated


Can the translators go to other sites that FOMOS isn't being annoyed with and translate over there and we can just copy/cite them over here?
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
May 28 2011 13:25 GMT
#213
Who conducts the interviews or are they just transcribed from the post game interviews players do? I don't see how Fomos can claim ownership of those interviews. Just translate from a different source, what are they going to do? On the bright side doing that will give SDM something better to copy/paste for Fomos
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
May 28 2011 13:31 GMT
#214
This is just such a dumb move by fomos. What can they expect to gain? An additional $10 in advertising money?
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
May 28 2011 13:44 GMT
#215
Well, someone mentioned something before which would be a possible solution, depending how stringent fomos is and how lenient TL moderation is.
Just create an offsite, have translations and pictures there (change interview questions around, add stupid paintpixels to pictures) and then link those here and source them to that site. Create as many proxysites as necessary for Fomos not to be able to stop it. Seems like way too much effort for anyone to go through though, especially with the translators already putting all the effort into translating

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itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 14:32:37
May 28 2011 14:11 GMT
#216
Somehow I think it would be good for TL to clarify a few things in a news post in matters of copyright infringement and how things are handled and who @ TL actually decides which kind of action has to be taken... here are my 2 cents though:

1)
Copyright infringement is a serious matter but it also is something with a huge grey area, its sometimes hard to distingiush between black and white, even a writer or a guest can often not clarify whats actually a theft and whats not and often even experts have a hard time to argue on that.

2)
Copyright infringement laws have to be enforced to get punished! If there is no actual holder of a right in a certain area of the world (and fomos is no multi national company) there is hardly any way to persue a legal action. This heavily depends on where a server or host is located... China for example doesn't really have to follow international copyright laws at all legally because important global agreements weren't signed. Copyright at all gets only punished because companies pay the state to do so there...

3)
This subject at all is on a thin line here on TL as many posts or even userstreams features stuff, pictures and especially music which is copyright protected... Why only on this matter? There should be a strong statement in deleting everything or setting it free...tbh for fomos, it may be especially because of hosting issues as many pictures are only hotlinked.

OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
May 28 2011 14:30 GMT
#217
And remember when TL bitched that Fomos "stole" an english translation of their own article?
hahahahaha
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
May 28 2011 14:46 GMT
#218
On May 28 2011 23:30 FakePlasticLove wrote:
And remember when TL bitched that Fomos "stole" an english translation of their own article?
hahahahaha

Well, TL translators usually credit and link to the source. Translations are a a gray area of copyright, but plagiarism is plagiarism.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
May 28 2011 14:49 GMT
#219
On May 28 2011 23:46 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 23:30 FakePlasticLove wrote:
And remember when TL bitched that Fomos "stole" an english translation of their own article?
hahahahaha

Well, TL translators usually credit and link to the source. Translations are a a gray area of copyright, but plagiarism is plagiarism.

brb pirating a film than crediting universal studios
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
May 28 2011 14:49 GMT
#220
Is fomos going to take down the English translations of the DES articles that they copy pasted on to their site?
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