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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 04:47:10
May 27 2011 15:08 GMT
#1
why is there no more nation wars?

i know, most national team players swtiched to SC2, but there is still a hole bunch of new, old and up comming players who are looking foreward for more competition, i think nation wars will give back this old spirit of competition, and a reason for D/D+/C- players to improve in order to join his national team.

I remember back in the days (LoL 1 and a half year ago) most new chilean players were training for a shot in the Chilean Squad, it was awesome, cause it increased the level of chilean competition A LOT, you can say that DinOt, NbA, UltrA, GoTuNk, pALLo, Cruzago, Sendoh, and KilleR, all started their carreers hoping for a spot in the national team...

i think making a league of national teams may not be so difficult for a Site like Iccup or even for TL.

i think the best way to do it, is making national tourneys all over the place, making a secondary account in iccup with players id+ national tag: USA-Player or CHL-Player. Or even giving the national players a [N] next to his ID in the iccup page, like it used to be in wgtour.

The second important part is captains, i don't know how you can choose a good captain for your national squad but i may not be hard...

is this an insteresting idea for you guys? Or im just dreaming of the past?


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SluGGer
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada50 Posts
May 27 2011 15:15 GMT
#2
I can agree with that. It was also fun betting on GG.net on which Nation would win. Also I think your right in saying that a lot of gamer's would try to improve to make the National team. I'm all for it. Good post.
I want to plague all over your face.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
May 27 2011 15:19 GMT
#3
i remeber NWs being so cool back in the days just by supporting your country, waiting for results and beting... With todays tools it would be unbeliveble awesome, stream, good coverage, hype... i just can't imagine how cool it could get...
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
May 27 2011 15:39 GMT
#4
To be honest, the nation war scene had been dead for about a year even before sc2 beta came out. I think I'm technically still the leader of the uK team so I would be interested if there was a revival,
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
May 27 2011 15:47 GMT
#5
Perhaps we really should organise a new skool nation wars. Problem is getting people to play nowadays i think...
This will be really fun. I wasnt around back then during nation wars existed.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 27 2011 16:26 GMT
#6
This actually sounds like a good idea...
iCCup.Tenshi here, I'll see what I can do but I can't make any guarantees right now
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
May 27 2011 16:28 GMT
#7
I would definitely be interested in this if we can get it going, sounds awesome!
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
May 27 2011 16:29 GMT
#8
I think the main problem is that it would be dominated by the few good players who did not switch over. And then, the rest of the team is just filler players. Simply put, it would be very... one sided during most of the games imo.
I'm an old man now
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
May 27 2011 16:36 GMT
#9
On May 28 2011 01:29 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
I think the main problem is that it would be dominated by the few good players who did not switch over. And then, the rest of the team is just filler players. Simply put, it would be very... one sided during most of the games imo.


I don't think that matters in a regular format CW, I mean, we have KT flash and Oz Jaedong

I think the idea is very cool, and maybe for areas with not many players nations could be turned into regions (south america team, UK, etc)
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
May 27 2011 16:46 GMT
#10
Netherlands represent!
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
May 27 2011 16:51 GMT
#11
A very nice idea indeed.

Croatia~~
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Reyis
Profile Joined August 2009
Pitcairn287 Posts
May 27 2011 17:02 GMT
#12
Yes, people, we do know that the nation wars have died a while ago but if everyone put 1 little bit effort, we can surely do some stuff.

Also i am very sure that iccup will definetly help with this.
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
May 27 2011 17:06 GMT
#13
sounds very good.
GosuGamers hosted the last nationwar league, about a year ago, but when the SC2 Beta came out alot of players dropped (I was one of the leaders of the German team and we had problems with several players switching over to SC2, not attending the NW's).

I think reforming national teams would be great because now we know who will still be here.
LML
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 27 2011 17:08 GMT
#14
Can somebody link me to a league format from the past? I just need an overall understanding of how its played.
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
May 27 2011 17:23 GMT
#15
UK NEEDS this lol
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 27 2011 17:26 GMT
#16
lol I'm French living in China. I'm not good enough to join the Chinese team, but there are too few French players to have their own team. Any country wants to naturalize a C protoss player ? :D
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FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
May 27 2011 17:50 GMT
#17
i am all for this! I think if there was a reason for all the best players of every nation to actually represent their country (a league with high prestige, or cash prize even?) then this would be highly successful. There also need to be motivated national team leaders for every nation involved, which I think was one of the shortcomings of the last few nationwar leagues. Some nation leaders would treat their nation like their clan, and select players based more on preference than ability.
aka DragOn[NaS]
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 27 2011 18:24 GMT
#18
This sounds like a wonderful idea, even if we can't get a sponsor.

I hope someone with experience in organizing tournaments sees this thread and picks this up!
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
May 27 2011 18:35 GMT
#19
Korea represent!
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
May 27 2011 19:05 GMT
#20
Would love to see a resurgence in BW man o man it would be so nice, I'm just D at best but I'd be down to shoot up farther if there were a reason like this.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
May 27 2011 19:17 GMT
#21
On May 28 2011 02:26 endy wrote:
lol I'm French living in China. I'm not good enough to join the Chinese team, but there are too few French players to have their own team. Any country wants to naturalize a C protoss player ? :D


You say France doesn't have enough people, try Switzerland!
Hahaha I'm a D+ C-, but can still brag about being ranked 4th in the entire country q;

But sure, if more Swiss would frequent TL and speak up I'd love to!
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Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 27 2011 20:18 GMT
#22
Bleh, maybe if we let it run a while, more people will join
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
May 27 2011 23:05 GMT
#23
I wasn't really around when this was going on, but wouldn't time zone differences be quite a pain to manage?
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
May 28 2011 00:02 GMT
#24
just as much as with clanwars, find a time inbetween.
And it can be changed according to which nations play, of course.
Or make groups where nations from one similiar timezone play each other first, like North/South America and Europe. I doubt there would be any too far eastern teams, besides russia. Probably not any further east than Belarus.
LML
ff7legend
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States213 Posts
May 28 2011 00:23 GMT
#25
Doubt there will be enough countries with enough reliable players to make this plausible. even if it was plausible i doubt many countries would even be able to compete, due to lack of talent
I am the best ever... aka Truth, Judge, Legend
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
May 28 2011 01:16 GMT
#26
As the former Bolivian National Team Captain I totally agree with this. This can get Bolivia to play again.

I mean most of the Latin players back in my time used to play just to get into the National Team. And the Nations would engage in friendly Nation War just to show the rest who is the best. Maybe a League can be made. But the National team system was one of the TOP motivators to play BW back then.

Tenshi PM me if you want some help with this. I was very active back then and I think I have some useful knowledge.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 28 2011 01:52 GMT
#27
I've filed a proposal to the higher-ups already, when they approve then we can get the ball rolling.

The only aspect of this whole scheme I'm still wary about is how are we going to choose fair/unbiased team leaders...
People sometimes tend to favor their clanmates, and not the entire team may support one person as their leader.
noname_
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
457 Posts
May 28 2011 04:05 GMT
#28
On May 28 2011 10:52 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
I've filed a proposal to the higher-ups already, when they approve then we can get the ball rolling.

The only aspect of this whole scheme I'm still wary about is how are we going to choose fair/unbiased team leaders...
People sometimes tend to favor their clanmates, and not the entire team may support one person as their leader.


I think that should be the ultimate concern.
I jump into the bandwagon with a gogo shoutout!!
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
May 28 2011 04:42 GMT
#29
I think most Taiwanese players switched to SC2... Rush used to be decent, but now the highest ranked player on iCCup is C+ -__-

That said, this seems like it has a lot of potential! Bandwagon gogo!
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
May 28 2011 06:24 GMT
#30
I'll represent Korea so that USA can have a chance... I'm only C-
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
Cpt.InSaNo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States81 Posts
May 28 2011 08:44 GMT
#31
This is a great IDEA!! someone needs to implement this~ POST THIS ON ICCUP!
StOrk[gm] 4 LiFe
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
May 28 2011 10:08 GMT
#32
UNITED KINGDOM!

im for it I think.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 29 2011 17:14 GMT
#33
Good news guys, it seems like we've received approval for this event.
I'll begin drafting a series of rules/regulations over the next few days, there will be a formal thread created once I'm done.
As I am inexperienced with Nation Wars, I will always be open for suggestions! If you feel like there should be something implemented to make the event more enjoyable, don't be afraid to shoot me a PM on TL or to iCCup.Tenshi on iccup.com.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
May 29 2011 17:27 GMT
#34
If this were to happen I would volenteer myself as uK leader as I have a LOT of free time right now, altho if there was someone better suited I wouldn't have a problem with someone else taking over (Sayle?).
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 17:38:03
May 29 2011 17:36 GMT
#35
On May 28 2011 10:52 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
I've filed a proposal to the higher-ups already, when they approve then we can get the ball rolling.

The only aspect of this whole scheme I'm still wary about is how are we going to choose fair/unbiased team leaders...
People sometimes tend to favor their clanmates, and not the entire team may support one person as their leader.

I think when it comes to choosing team leaders. Choose those who are unbiased or cannot be biased.

also if you're looking for a canadian coach could do it. I'm not a good player, but I am replay admin at iCCup so I have that analyst brain that could help. Plus access to replays not seen anywhere else. gives the canadian team a good hand on the competition.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
May 29 2011 18:04 GMT
#36
looking forward to this ^_^
aka DragOn[NaS]
lungo
Profile Joined October 2005
Denmark276 Posts
May 29 2011 18:07 GMT
#37
i think you can count Denmark out, back when i was the danish leader a few years ago, we lacked players, and now its even harder to find any danish bw players at all :D
as Arnold said: you have been erased! but dont worry!
Slorm :D
Profile Joined May 2011
Chile1 Post
May 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#38
I like the idea too, it will very entertaining to play having such incentive :D, i'm D player but would like to play even if i get pwnd xDD
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 29 2011 19:51 GMT
#39
On May 30 2011 02:36 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 10:52 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
I've filed a proposal to the higher-ups already, when they approve then we can get the ball rolling.

The only aspect of this whole scheme I'm still wary about is how are we going to choose fair/unbiased team leaders...
People sometimes tend to favor their clanmates, and not the entire team may support one person as their leader.

I think when it comes to choosing team leaders. Choose those who are unbiased or cannot be biased.

also if you're looking for a canadian coach could do it. I'm not a good player, but I am replay admin at iCCup so I have that analyst brain that could help. Plus access to replays not seen anywhere else. gives the canadian team a good hand on the competition.


I have yet to think of a fair way to elect team leaders yet. But I'll definitely give it some thought in regards to various aspects
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
May 29 2011 20:24 GMT
#40
this is a amazing idea,maybe i can get some spanish players for this
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 20:32:28
May 29 2011 20:32 GMT
#41
Sweden represent!!
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
May 30 2011 00:55 GMT
#42
wow, i never thought this idea would be so much supported...
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
May 30 2011 02:28 GMT
#43
On May 28 2011 13:42 Funnytoss wrote:
I think most Taiwanese players switched to SC2... Rush used to be decent, but now the highest ranked player on iCCup is C+ -__-

That said, this seems like it has a lot of potential! Bandwagon gogo!


Malaysia dont really have much active BW players as well, many jerked off to sc2 already. Perhaps we can combine and make a SEA team...
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
May 30 2011 02:29 GMT
#44
In the old days the Team Leader would be picked by the nation itself. Every nation had their own forum so they could discuss this things. In Bolivia the leader was always chosen without too much trouble. We always respected our leaders and everybody in the team would decide the National team stuff. The leader was just there as a contact between other nations and the National team.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 30 2011 13:55 GMT
#45
On May 30 2011 11:28 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 13:42 Funnytoss wrote:
I think most Taiwanese players switched to SC2... Rush used to be decent, but now the highest ranked player on iCCup is C+ -__-

That said, this seems like it has a lot of potential! Bandwagon gogo!


Malaysia dont really have much active BW players as well, many jerked off to sc2 already. Perhaps we can combine and make a SEA team...


This might be a good idea.
Though if the time comes when there is sufficient activity (hopefully with AU/NZ), we may consider separating by individual countries again.

In any case, a set of format/rules is now pending approval, I'll keep you guys updated.
If everything goes well, we can hopefully get the event rolling by early next season.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
May 30 2011 14:03 GMT
#46
oh mann, SCBW WORLD CUP ?
Campeones Campeones Ole Ole OLe
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
May 30 2011 14:10 GMT
#47
On May 30 2011 11:28 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 13:42 Funnytoss wrote:
I think most Taiwanese players switched to SC2... Rush used to be decent, but now the highest ranked player on iCCup is C+ -__-

That said, this seems like it has a lot of potential! Bandwagon gogo!


Malaysia dont really have much active BW players as well, many jerked off to sc2 already. Perhaps we can combine and make a SEA team...


Sounds good, let's see how this develops.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
May 30 2011 14:19 GMT
#48
On May 30 2011 22:55 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 11:28 Black[CAT] wrote:
On May 28 2011 13:42 Funnytoss wrote:
I think most Taiwanese players switched to SC2... Rush used to be decent, but now the highest ranked player on iCCup is C+ -__-

That said, this seems like it has a lot of potential! Bandwagon gogo!


Malaysia dont really have much active BW players as well, many jerked off to sc2 already. Perhaps we can combine and make a SEA team...


This might be a good idea.
Though if the time comes when there is sufficient activity (hopefully with AU/NZ), we may consider separating by individual countries again.

In any case, a set of format/rules is now pending approval, I'll keep you guys updated.
If everything goes well, we can hopefully get the event rolling by early next season.


Well, if there are a lot of AU/NZ players, you could split it up into North SEA and South SEA.

I think North South East Asia has a nice ring to it.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 30 2011 15:00 GMT
#49
I'm in full support of all activities designed to bring some life back into the foreign BW scene.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 30 2011 15:01 GMT
#50
How many US players are there actually?

I would assume that even though we're big, we have a lot of more fickle gamers.
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Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
May 30 2011 15:03 GMT
#51
We could probably get some threads going in blogs or something like that recruiting players, so we know who we have and where they are... particularly useful for some spread-out countries with few players.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 30 2011 15:11 GMT
#52
I don't really know how many people can participate yet, but I would guess it shouldn't be a problem for popular countries like US/KR/CA/PL/etc.

On May 31 2011 00:03 Funnytoss wrote:
We could probably get some threads going in blogs or something like that recruiting players, so we know who we have and where they are... particularly useful for some spread-out countries with few players.


This would be really great, especially for relatively more inactive countries at the moment. The more we can be certain that a country has enough activity to participate, the better.
When the event is up and running, we will probably have a new forum section on iccup dedicated specifically to this event (don't take my word on this though). And it will probably be logical for team leaders to post recruitment threads there.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
May 30 2011 15:19 GMT
#53
On May 30 2011 04:51 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 02:36 masterbreti wrote:
On May 28 2011 10:52 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
I've filed a proposal to the higher-ups already, when they approve then we can get the ball rolling.

The only aspect of this whole scheme I'm still wary about is how are we going to choose fair/unbiased team leaders...
People sometimes tend to favor their clanmates, and not the entire team may support one person as their leader.

I think when it comes to choosing team leaders. Choose those who are unbiased or cannot be biased.

also if you're looking for a canadian coach could do it. I'm not a good player, but I am replay admin at iCCup so I have that analyst brain that could help. Plus access to replays not seen anywhere else. gives the canadian team a good hand on the competition.


I have yet to think of a fair way to elect team leaders yet. But I'll definitely give it some thought in regards to various aspects


are you saying you want to decide who are the teamleaders? That would be very ridiculous.
LML
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
May 30 2011 15:21 GMT
#54
If there is a SEA team i would like to join too
i am from hong kong, a tiny city of china.
SC forever!
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
May 30 2011 15:24 GMT
#55
On May 28 2011 13:42 Funnytoss wrote:
I think most Taiwanese players switched to SC2... Rush used to be decent, but now the highest ranked player on iCCup is C+ -__-

That said, this seems like it has a lot of potential! Bandwagon gogo!


yes..
Rush clan..
i know them
they are really decent
some of them reached rank B in iccup
and sen is from rush too..

actually who is the strognest in rush clan? except sen and sobad..
SL?manner? or any other?
SC forever!
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 30 2011 15:26 GMT
#56
On May 31 2011 00:19 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 04:51 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
On May 30 2011 02:36 masterbreti wrote:
On May 28 2011 10:52 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
I've filed a proposal to the higher-ups already, when they approve then we can get the ball rolling.

The only aspect of this whole scheme I'm still wary about is how are we going to choose fair/unbiased team leaders...
People sometimes tend to favor their clanmates, and not the entire team may support one person as their leader.

I think when it comes to choosing team leaders. Choose those who are unbiased or cannot be biased.

also if you're looking for a canadian coach could do it. I'm not a good player, but I am replay admin at iCCup so I have that analyst brain that could help. Plus access to replays not seen anywhere else. gives the canadian team a good hand on the competition.


I have yet to think of a fair way to elect team leaders yet. But I'll definitely give it some thought in regards to various aspects


are you saying you want to decide who are the teamleaders? That would be very ridiculous.


No, I won't be deciding.
But I do need to make a logical procedure on how team leaders should be elected.
If any of you have suggestions, please share them.
Thanks
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
May 30 2011 15:30 GMT
#57
if there is a SEA team, id like to be a part of it or just being a practice partner. it'd be great
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
May 30 2011 15:39 GMT
#58
On May 31 2011 00:26 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 00:19 LML wrote:
On May 30 2011 04:51 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
On May 30 2011 02:36 masterbreti wrote:
On May 28 2011 10:52 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
I've filed a proposal to the higher-ups already, when they approve then we can get the ball rolling.

The only aspect of this whole scheme I'm still wary about is how are we going to choose fair/unbiased team leaders...
People sometimes tend to favor their clanmates, and not the entire team may support one person as their leader.

I think when it comes to choosing team leaders. Choose those who are unbiased or cannot be biased.

also if you're looking for a canadian coach could do it. I'm not a good player, but I am replay admin at iCCup so I have that analyst brain that could help. Plus access to replays not seen anywhere else. gives the canadian team a good hand on the competition.


I have yet to think of a fair way to elect team leaders yet. But I'll definitely give it some thought in regards to various aspects


are you saying you want to decide who are the teamleaders? That would be very ridiculous.


No, I won't be deciding.
But I do need to make a logical procedure on how team leaders should be elected.
If any of you have suggestions, please share them.
Thanks


Each country has its own community and people know each other, maybe not too good, but they do and mostly know who is good for that job, even which players are good enough to be in the team, it's mostly already known and doesn't just have to be chosen by one guy who has the leader role.
LML
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 16:07:06
May 30 2011 16:03 GMT
#59
How about this. each perosn who wants to can nominate themselves and have a sort of tl poll for each country.

so each person applying would write a little (1 paragraph ) bio on themsevles and sc, and the leader would be decided by votes. of course only problem is you can't control who votes for which conuntry. so we would have to trust the tl community to do proper voting.

of course there would be a deadline for applicants to submit their nomination. and the polls would go up for lets say two weeks and then would be decided on most number of votes. in case of a tie. the poll would stay up longer.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 30 2011 16:16 GMT
#60
I'm thinking something along the lines of having previous leaders and/or players who have sufficient leadership positions to stand up and act as temporary leaders.
We can then see if we need new ones judging from the team's condition. How's that sound?

For countries who are in need of leaders, yeah masterbreti I like that idea.
Mango
Profile Joined July 2006
Belgium522 Posts
May 30 2011 16:47 GMT
#61
I am with LML on this one. Most of the countries should not really have any problems to decide on who to pick. There are always some who seem to know everybody, and can organise a war.
But if you want it more official the easiest way would be making a thread for each country on iCCup. Give some days to apply, and then a week to let the people from that country vote manually in the thread. That way you are certain only players from the right country vote, and nobody can complain because it's the democratic way.

But besides that this sound like a great idea, nationwars were lots of fun back in the days.
Firien
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland115 Posts
May 30 2011 16:59 GMT
#62
that would be really cool, id love to watch a stream of this
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1688 Posts
May 30 2011 17:29 GMT
#63
Yeah bring it on!! UK team FTW!!!!! I'm C+, and would be making a massive push for B- if it meant I could represent.
EleGant[AoV]
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
May 30 2011 22:19 GMT
#64
On May 31 2011 00:24 stevewch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 13:42 Funnytoss wrote:
I think most Taiwanese players switched to SC2... Rush used to be decent, but now the highest ranked player on iCCup is C+ -__-

That said, this seems like it has a lot of potential! Bandwagon gogo!


yes..
Rush clan..
i know them
they are really decent
some of them reached rank B in iccup
and sen is from rush too..

actually who is the strognest in rush clan? except sen and sobad..
SL?manner? or any other?


Sen was the best by far; Manner, Rush... all of them were B players at their peak if I remember correctly, but since they've all switched to SC2 it doesn't really matter.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
May 30 2011 22:56 GMT
#65
Well, I'm D+ in a country that has 6 players C- or above, which makes me a noob shit because I can't fucking play. But, hellz yeah. Someone needs to lead Turkey in this.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 30 2011 23:17 GMT
#66
On May 31 2011 07:56 Djagulingu wrote:
Well, I'm D+ in a country that has 6 players C- or above, which makes me a noob shit because I can't fucking play. But, hellz yeah. Someone needs to lead Turkey in this.


In these cases we'll most likely have your country form a coalition with another or a few other countries, so the team will have a combined skill level to be able to compete with the rest of the countries. The point will be to have as many people who want to participate in this participate.
The whole coalition scheme will come after all the planning is finished though, so there's no point in worrying about now.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 31 2011 21:09 GMT
#67
Status Update:
All the rules have been established. We're in the process of creating a framework (ie. teams) which will make procedures easier for you guys when you enter the event.
The official banner will be up shortly, and it won't be long before we start the process of nominating/electing team leaders.

Expect an official thread about this within the next few days
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
May 31 2011 21:25 GMT
#68
On June 01 2011 06:09 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
Status Update:
All the rules have been established. We're in the process of creating a framework (ie. teams) which will make procedures easier for you guys when you enter the event.
The official banner will be up shortly, and it won't be long before we start the process of nominating/electing team leaders.

Expect an official thread about this within the next few days


so one quick question. do leaders choose their teams or does everyone join and it become a giant ladder thing.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 21:28:24
May 31 2011 21:28 GMT
#69
Each country will have its own team, and each team will have its own leader.
It will make cw formats much easier
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
May 31 2011 21:34 GMT
#70
On June 01 2011 06:28 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
Each country will have its own team, and each team will have its own leader.
It will make cw formats much easier


cool. Looking foward to it all. If i make through the vote as leader or not. This will be epic.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
May 31 2011 22:44 GMT
#71
We started with scratch for this event, so there will be much preparation done needed during the beginning of this season. We'll probably spend the first 2 weeks having teams organize themselves and getting ready in general.
There will also be 3 weeks dedicated at the end of the season for Country Playoffs.
Assuming everything goes smoothly, there will be roughly a 7 week period for team's to play against each other. If the event continues into the following season, then we won't need to do anymore preparation work and everyone can just hit the ground running.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
May 31 2011 23:15 GMT
#72
On June 01 2011 07:44 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
We started with scratch for this event, so there will be much preparation done needed during the beginning of this season. We'll probably spend the first 2 weeks having teams organize themselves and getting ready in general.
There will also be 3 weeks dedicated at the end of the season for Country Playoffs.
Assuming everything goes smoothly, there will be roughly a 7 week period for team's to play against each other. If the event continues into the following season, then we won't need to do anymore preparation work and everyone can just hit the ground running.


so basically a clan war type thing at the end and a sort of ladder thing at the beginning but with teams
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
June 01 2011 01:10 GMT
#73
Will National Team members have the "N" next to their nick names?? That was awesome because it gives you bragging right!!!! xD No really plz be sure to use the "N" next to the National Team Members on iccup web.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
June 01 2011 01:15 GMT
#74
On June 01 2011 10:10 00Zarathustra wrote:
Will National Team members have the "N" next to their nick names?? That was awesome because it gives you bragging right!!!! xD No really plz be sure to use the "N" next to the National Team Members on iccup web.


Personally, I think country tags ([US]username, etc) is cooler.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 01 2011 01:40 GMT
#75
On June 01 2011 10:15 xxpack09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 10:10 00Zarathustra wrote:
Will National Team members have the "N" next to their nick names?? That was awesome because it gives you bragging right!!!! xD No really plz be sure to use the "N" next to the National Team Members on iccup web.


Personally, I think country tags ([US]username, etc) is cooler.


We will most likely have a formal tag for all iNW (iCCup Nation War) players.
Something like
iNW-Tenshi[CN], iNW-Tenshi[US], iNW-Tenshi[PL] etc.
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
June 01 2011 03:16 GMT
#76
I was not talking about the tags. :S It was a "n" little pic next to the nick. Just like the flag or the "D" "D+" "C-" YOu could not see it on the server just on the iccup page.
Like this:

[image loading]sGs.Cocky [N]

Where the [N] is a cool little pic of a N letter. Just like the flag is next to every nick in iccup this [N] would be next to the National Team members nick in iccup. This would appear in the rankings the team's player list and match lists. I mean everywhere the link to the nick is, the [N] is.

Don't you remember this [N] on wgtour or pgtour? It was a huge honor to wear this [N]

This little thing alone would motivate the players to do well in the ladder and tourneys to be recruited by the Nation leader and be able to wear the [N]
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
June 01 2011 04:25 GMT
#77
yeah i remember the N, it was also used during the early days of iccup. I agree it should be reinstated, but thats up to the iccup admins.
aka DragOn[NaS]
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 01 2011 10:51 GMT
#78
Ohhhh I see what you're talking about now
sorry I haven't been around long enough to see those icons...
I'll talk to the devs about it and see if they can create a specific tag
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 01 2011 12:26 GMT
#79
[image loading]


The little [N]
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 01 2011 12:39 GMT
#80
Blah i might just have got C a long time ago but hell id be willing to give this a shot
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 12:50:48
June 01 2011 12:48 GMT
#81
I was one of WGT NW admin and the NW scene was almost dead even 2 years ago.

It is true that the south american teams were often changing their rosters and playing one another.
But European teams gave up, even during the GG.net NWL I had troubles having 4 players ready (I was an admin in France A), mostly because players prefered to play with their clans.

Now I dont think we ll find 4 players from France willing to enter any sort of NW competition, or it ll be a D+/C level one, which defeats the purpose.

I agree with what was said about making regional teams (lets say Benelux+France,Spain+Portugal,UK+Ireland,Scandinavia etc...), that way we ll have more chances to have a full roster.

EDIT: I dont mind helpiung around with any sort of French squad if anybody s interested in competing.
Horang2 fan
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3369 Posts
June 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#82
On June 01 2011 21:26 Pads wrote:
[image loading]


The little [N]

thanks for posting smtgh from WGT, I mised it <3<3
Horang2 fan
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
June 08 2011 14:39 GMT
#83
some info about this ?

i just found spanish players,i thnk we ready for play nw
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 09 2011 19:49 GMT
#84
Everything has been ready ready in terms of preparations since a week ago
We're only waiting for messer's approval right now...
When/If he says yes, I'll post an official thread on TL and a news post on iccup.com will be published as well.
sCriv
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom90 Posts
June 09 2011 19:53 GMT
#85
dooooo it
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
June 09 2011 20:02 GMT
#86
ok thx for the info.hope all out soon
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 09 2011 20:06 GMT
#87
I might be interested in organizing something like this, I enjoyed NWs on A/B team for USA.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 09 2011 21:57 GMT
#88
I'm still not sure if the dev crew can implant the [N], but participants will definitely have their own tags to distinguish them from the rest of the players
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 09 2011 22:07 GMT
#89
Well can't wait to apply for leader. Don't know if i get it or not. But sounds like a lot of fun either way. Lets go canadians and kick ass. since we have the most gosu lineup next to Korea
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 09 2011 22:19 GMT
#90
Danish represent!

.. Am i the only?
In the woods, there lurks..
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
June 09 2011 22:42 GMT
#91
On June 10 2011 07:19 Iplaythings wrote:
Danish represent!

.. Am i the only?

Hmm, you and XsebT perhaps? If you are the only one you should become an honorary Brit for this
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 09 2011 23:24 GMT
#92
We'll most likely be merging a few teams that don't have enough players =/
sorry, but I think that'll be the best choice to go until we get more activity
fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
June 10 2011 01:31 GMT
#93
How many Aussies have we got? Kiante and unionbank are the only ones I can think of right now. Darling[Pain] doesn't seem to be playing any more or at least he has stopped streaming. There's also that Toss55 who is currently top of Australian ladder, who is that?

Hope this event can come through. It'll be lots of fun and a chance to make the BW scene a bit more alive Best of luck Shiro)Tenshi.
t.t
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 10 2011 02:27 GMT
#94
Also if we somehow set up streams for this event can it be possible to not have postponed games? I understand people are busy but if we have to have PP games among X amount of players there's no way of knowing how backed-up and unorganized these sort of events can be. (i.e. ic-cl) so I guess you would choose your Nation Teams based on activity and availability (sure having stacked all star team looks nice but if they don't show...)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
June 10 2011 05:54 GMT
#95
darling hasnt been seen by any1 since ISL. also i agree w/ draw, we should get this streamed and dont PP shit.
aka DragOn[NaS]
ytter
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark17 Posts
June 10 2011 08:18 GMT
#96
On June 10 2011 07:19 Iplaythings wrote:
Danish represent!

.. Am i the only?


noo. fucking got to make a danish team. !

what was the skill level in previous nation wars? C/ B ?


http://www.cafepress.com/yttersc -my sc merch store
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 10 2011 10:00 GMT
#97
Nation dependent, but usually mid/high B's. It's going to be lower now though asmost good players don't play bw anymore.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1564 Posts
June 10 2011 10:12 GMT
#98
i think it would be better to do continent war North America, South America, Europe, and Rest of the World
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1688 Posts
June 10 2011 10:15 GMT
#99
Bring it on!! More leagues, more reasons for players to push themselves higher. Team GB represent!
EleGant[AoV]
AnyOne
Profile Joined January 2008
Chile547 Posts
June 10 2011 11:06 GMT
#100
best idea ever
ill train harder to be an [N] player
STX SOuL FightinG~ Inter.Calm FigthinG ~
Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
June 10 2011 12:22 GMT
#101
On June 10 2011 19:12 paulinepain wrote:
i think it would be better to do continent war North America, South America, Europe, and Rest of the World


I don't think it's a good idea... It'll bring only good players on the teams and I guess that the purpose of this event is to have lots of players and fun.


Anyway, you can count me on the french team if there's one
Elena[PaiN]
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 17:03:26
June 10 2011 14:23 GMT
#102
Red and white, I'm gonna fight!

DENMARK UNITE!
화이팅
ytter
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark17 Posts
June 10 2011 14:51 GMT
#103
http://www.cafepress.com/yttersc -my sc merch store
Matto
Profile Joined September 2010
Chile28 Posts
June 10 2011 15:29 GMT
#104
this could be the national dance of denmark :D
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
June 10 2011 15:35 GMT
#105
Canada will tear this shit up if it ever goes live. kC and Dragon fighting~
Nak Allstar.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 10 2011 16:06 GMT
#106
Sorry guys, I'm still awaiting Messer's approval.
I want to start the ball rolling just as much as you guys do :[
Hopefully he'll say yes by the end of the week
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
June 10 2011 16:20 GMT
#107
Man all the top US players went to SC2 xD still have people like LastGosu(recently came back :o ) manner]flip, dredredre, michael(od) at least..
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 10 2011 16:23 GMT
#108
I played lastgosu .. and I managed to bring a good fight yippey
I don't know, lynch me!
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 10 2011 16:28 GMT
#109
Caffeine, I think your list is a little skewed, but otherwise I agree with you.

To the rest: please stop volunteering yourself as "would be [N] players", because in most likelihood... you wouldn't be. Specifically, I'm only saying it broadly because only one person who did it is on a name I don't even recognize in the lower C rank community.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 10 2011 16:56 GMT
#110
Specifically, I'm only saying it broadly lol
I don't know, lynch me!
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 11 2011 03:40 GMT
#111
On June 11 2011 01:28 Game wrote:
Caffeine, I think your list is a little skewed, but otherwise I agree with you.

To the rest: please stop volunteering yourself as "would be [N] players", because in most likelihood... you wouldn't be. Specifically, I'm only saying it broadly because only one person who did it is on a name I don't even recognize in the lower C rank community.



Don't let this man's hate ruin your dream!!! Reach for the stars, you will get that [N] status!!! Heck even I might try to make it myself...

Anyway, Tenshi gL with making this official. Canada team, who wants to be the manager? I know purpledrank (you crazy smurf), bizzy, assaulty, dragon... some others need to get some collaborations going so we can destroy anyone who even attempts to look at Canadians in a funny way.

P.S: Sayle you can be our Canadian caster!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
June 11 2011 04:12 GMT
#112
i believe some masterbreti (sp?) guy has asked a couple times to be the canada manager, im up for giving him a chance. CANADA FIGHTING!!
aka DragOn[NaS]
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 11 2011 04:24 GMT
#113
Thanks for all the support guys, I appreciate it.

You can by all means (but don't have to) vote for leaders right now. If countries can decide on a leader, it'll make preparation work that much easier. Otherwise, when Messer gives the 'go', I'll allocate 1 week in the start for teams to organize and prepare for cw's.

Good luck everyone
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
June 11 2011 05:00 GMT
#114
i don't think lastgosu is the actual one, or is it? confirmation? o_O what id is he playing on?
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
June 11 2011 05:34 GMT
#115
On June 11 2011 14:00 Metal[x] wrote:
i don't think lastgosu is the actual one, or is it? confirmation? o_O what id is he playing on?


pretty sure it is, ive seen him make several comments about coming back from a long break etc. iFU.lastgosu, ifu members can probably confirm
aka DragOn[NaS]
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
June 11 2011 10:41 GMT
#116
if there is a real posibility of this getting serious i can try to put together a chilean national team, so count Chile in...
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
lungo
Profile Joined October 2005
Denmark276 Posts
June 11 2011 12:52 GMT
#117
oh snap, there are some danish players above!
as Arnold said: you have been erased! but dont worry!
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
June 11 2011 13:40 GMT
#118
You could always try to get Avi-Love to come back
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 11 2011 14:03 GMT
#119
On June 11 2011 14:34 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 14:00 Metal[x] wrote:
i don't think lastgosu is the actual one, or is it? confirmation? o_O what id is he playing on?


pretty sure it is, ive seen him make several comments about coming back from a long break etc. iFU.lastgosu, ifu members can probably confirm


+1 it's lg
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 11 2011 14:14 GMT
#120
On June 11 2011 19:41 XenOsky- wrote:
if there is a real posibility of this getting serious i can try to put together a chilean national team, so count Chile in...


I encourage you to do so.
This is 99.999999999% gonna get passed
AnyOne
Profile Joined January 2008
Chile547 Posts
June 11 2011 14:52 GMT
#121
great ill help xenosky with the chilean team
wee need to do another thread maybe with the list of players for each country or something like that
STX SOuL FightinG~ Inter.Calm FigthinG ~
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
June 11 2011 21:18 GMT
#122
this is a very nice way to make BW more active, Chile is IN! ill help my national team with xenosky and anyone if is possible :D!
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
AnyOne
Profile Joined January 2008
Chile547 Posts
June 11 2011 22:02 GMT
#123
alright if u are chilean go here!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=232616
STX SOuL FightinG~ Inter.Calm FigthinG ~
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
June 11 2011 22:02 GMT
#124
yaaaay
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 11 2011 23:28 GMT
#125
Am paintently waiting till things get confirmed. so pumped for this. Either way though, I will doing as much as I can to help the canadian team. Wether i'm a leader, player or just a fan.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 12 2011 22:59 GMT
#126
Proposal passed.
Currently drafting official TL thread.
Heads up for updates
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
June 12 2011 23:09 GMT
#127
Wow awesome. GJ pullin it together Alex ^^
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
June 12 2011 23:14 GMT
#128
Yeah, NWs were awesome back when WGT was relevant and the top players all showed for their countries. It trailed off towards the end, but it was still great when it was in it's prime.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
June 12 2011 23:26 GMT
#129
On May 28 2011 04:17 bITt.mAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 02:26 endy wrote:
lol I'm French living in China. I'm not good enough to join the Chinese team, but there are too few French players to have their own team. Any country wants to naturalize a C protoss player ? :D


You say France doesn't have enough people, try Switzerland!
Hahaha I'm a D+ C-, but can still brag about being ranked 4th in the entire country q;

But sure, if more Swiss would frequent TL and speak up I'd love to!



So D+ C- is enough to be 4th?
Then I will surpass you. Someday, somewhere, somehow. Oh and, there are sure some Koreans in Switzerland that are better than both of us....
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Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 12 2011 23:57 GMT
#130
On June 13 2011 08:09 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
Wow awesome. GJ pullin it together Alex ^^


My "banned list" feels so...empty :[
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 13 2011 00:18 GMT
#131
Wow so it's official!? Masterbreti HOLD A NATION TOUR ON ICCUP!!! We need to have 3-5 practice sessions a week or something, serious business about to unfold and Canada is going to dominate the world!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 13 2011 06:34 GMT
#132
On June 13 2011 09:18 dRaW wrote:
Wow so it's official!? Masterbreti HOLD A NATION TOUR ON ICCUP!!! We need to have 3-5 practice sessions a week or something, serious business about to unfold and Canada is going to dominate the world!

If I get voted in I have some plan including a canadian tournament. Practice is something that would be decided by everyone once the team is made.

I think though in terms of practice. I would rather see 2 practice sessions a week that were effective, then 5 practice sessions that were not. Looking as well to possibly bring in some talent as practice partners once we got our team.

sCriv
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom90 Posts
June 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#133
On May 28 2011 00:39 Pads wrote:
To be honest, the nation war scene had been dead for about a year even before sc2 beta came out. I think I'm technically still the leader of the uK team so I would be interested if there was a revival,



Dooooo it Pads. Get a UK tour set up for it?
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
June 13 2011 13:43 GMT
#134
still no SEA team?
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Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 13 2011 14:07 GMT
#135
I don't know why...but I got a fuzzy feeling Hungarians are going to come in and dominate everybody...


...just saying
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
June 13 2011 14:36 GMT
#136
pssh, look at germany then;)

Bakuryu, infernal, doty, idk who else still plays, but that's to find out;)
LML
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 13 2011 15:02 GMT
#137
Tenshi. Any dates on when we are going to have leader votes?

can't wait!
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
June 13 2011 15:07 GMT
#138
On June 13 2011 22:43 icystorage wrote:
still no SEA team?


GoGo SEA team! Maybe SEA players should make a thread for the SEA region.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
June 13 2011 16:50 GMT
#139
if anything sign up Nb.Sky for team canada :D
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Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 13 2011 17:00 GMT
#140
On June 14 2011 00:02 masterbreti wrote:
Tenshi. Any dates on when we are going to have leader votes?

can't wait!


CL/CW section right now is in an utter mess...starting NW without them would be asking for failure :[
the entire admin team is trying their best to stabilize cl/cw asap, so the official NW thread should be out in about 2-3 days? Certainly not much longer
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 18:44:40
June 13 2011 18:43 GMT
#141
Sometimes I miss WGTour so much!

Unfortunately, Nation Wars are of no importance to most players out there as of now. SC2 is brand new and there's no interest in NWs whatsoever.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
June 13 2011 19:02 GMT
#142
stop cry about sc2 players,there is a new generaton of bw players, gonna be fun
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
June 13 2011 19:39 GMT
#143
I'm all for it!
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
June 13 2011 22:27 GMT
#144
There is a timer on iccup. The same one they used when they changed their website.

Has this timer something to do with the NW?
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 13 2011 22:29 GMT
#145
No
I don't get what that's about either
lol
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
June 13 2011 22:49 GMT
#146
besides Chile, is there any other country getting their team organized?
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
June 13 2011 23:09 GMT
#147
I would like to read the announcement and rules on iccup before contacting other bolivians. But Im pretty sure we will have a team ready to play.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#148
News will be up as soon as cl/cw section stabilizes. It's pretty chaotic at the moment with only 2 admins taking care of all cw matches.

I remember seeing Denmark doing some organization earlier...I think they'll be merged the other scandanavian countries to form iNW - Scandanavia though.... =/
USA and CA were doing some planning as well
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
June 13 2011 23:20 GMT
#149
On June 14 2011 08:14 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
News will be up as soon as cl/cw section stabilizes. It's pretty chaotic at the moment with only 2 admins taking care of all cw matches.

I remember seeing Denmark doing some organization earlier...I think they'll be merged the other scandanavian countries to form iNW - Scandanavia though.... =/
USA and CA were doing some planning as well

spain too, we have all done
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 13 2011 23:38 GMT
#150
On June 13 2011 22:23 ConSenT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 00:39 Pads wrote:
To be honest, the nation war scene had been dead for about a year even before sc2 beta came out. I think I'm technically still the leader of the uK team so I would be interested if there was a revival,



Dooooo it Pads. Get a UK tour set up for it?


As I said before I'm going to wait to see if Sayle wants to do it first as he seems to know more British players than me.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 14 2011 00:13 GMT
#151
If no one is working on this already, I'll pick it up.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
June 14 2011 00:16 GMT
#152
On June 14 2011 00:07 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:43 icystorage wrote:
still no SEA team?


GoGo SEA team! Maybe SEA players should make a thread for the SEA region.

if somebody's willing to manage it haha
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Terrorterran
Profile Joined January 2009
Peru256 Posts
June 14 2011 00:17 GMT
#153
Well, I will help to organize peruvian team.
GG
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 14 2011 00:50 GMT
#154
Going to make a thread for canadian national team. Hopefully we can get a step ahead of the competition.
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
June 14 2011 04:18 GMT
#155
On June 14 2011 09:16 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 00:07 Black[CAT] wrote:
On June 13 2011 22:43 icystorage wrote:
still no SEA team?


GoGo SEA team! Maybe SEA players should make a thread for the SEA region.

if somebody's willing to manage it haha


Does SEA includes HK too?
SC forever!
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 14 2011 04:44 GMT
#156
I think HK/Taiwan will most likely be merged as one team with China, unless opinions state otherwise
Terrorterran
Profile Joined January 2009
Peru256 Posts
June 14 2011 06:11 GMT
#157
Peruvian players are getting ready for this. We are arguing about the team leader and how to convoke those players who are out there.
GG
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 14 2011 08:41 GMT
#158
Artyk had a bunch of peruvians, you should contact bishop. Anyway, Tenshi will this be like a SPL style/Korean style? how will everything be set up, I assume details will be posted on icc or can we vote?
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
June 14 2011 08:50 GMT
#159
On June 14 2011 17:41 dRaW wrote:
Artyk had a bunch of peruvians, you should contact bishop. Anyway, Tenshi will this be like a SPL style/Korean style? how will everything be set up, I assume details will be posted on icc or can we vote?

i agree,im bored of the cw format ,need some pl action here. 7 sets,bo1 and mix maps
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1688 Posts
June 14 2011 09:11 GMT
#160
I am soso hyped for this. If I don't make the UK team I will practice like crazy. Definitely staying on the lookout for application details!
EleGant[AoV]
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
June 14 2011 14:19 GMT
#161
On June 14 2011 13:44 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
I think HK/Taiwan will most likely be merged as one team with China, unless opinions state otherwise


Good, so we are going to make a Pan-chinese team,right?
SC forever!
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
June 14 2011 14:43 GMT
#162
On June 14 2011 08:38 Pads wrote:
As I said before I'm going to wait to see if Sayle wants to do it first as he seems to know more British players than me.


Sorry, but I'm not much of an organizer, and the only British player I 'know' is Nb.Karate. If you guys wanna make a British team, I'll support you with shoutouts on the stream and possibly practice with you guys, but don't expect me to do any proper organizing :S
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
June 14 2011 15:56 GMT
#163
Who is in charge of the USA team?
brood war for life, brood war forever
sCriv
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom90 Posts
June 14 2011 18:46 GMT
#164
On June 14 2011 23:43 Sayle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 08:38 Pads wrote:
As I said before I'm going to wait to see if Sayle wants to do it first as he seems to know more British players than me.


Sorry, but I'm not much of an organizer, and the only British player I 'know' is Nb.Karate. If you guys wanna make a British team, I'll support you with shoutouts on the stream and possibly practice with you guys, but don't expect me to do any proper organizing :S



In that case my vote is with Pads.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
June 14 2011 20:56 GMT
#165
On June 15 2011 03:46 ConSenT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 23:43 Sayle wrote:
On June 14 2011 08:38 Pads wrote:
As I said before I'm going to wait to see if Sayle wants to do it first as he seems to know more British players than me.


Sorry, but I'm not much of an organizer, and the only British player I 'know' is Nb.Karate. If you guys wanna make a British team, I'll support you with shoutouts on the stream and possibly practice with you guys, but don't expect me to do any proper organizing :S



In that case my vote is with Pads.

Seconded!
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 14 2011 21:30 GMT
#166
Pressure ¬_¬. Alrighty I'll put myself forward when the time comes then.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 14 2011 21:53 GMT
#167
On June 15 2011 00:56 Crunchums wrote:
Who is in charge of the USA team?


I'll do it.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1688 Posts
June 14 2011 22:52 GMT
#168
On June 14 2011 23:43 Sayle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 08:38 Pads wrote:
As I said before I'm going to wait to see if Sayle wants to do it first as he seems to know more British players than me.


Sorry, but I'm not much of an organizer, and the only British player I 'know' is Nb.Karate. If you guys wanna make a British team, I'll support you with shoutouts on the stream and possibly practice with you guys, but don't expect me to do any proper organizing :S


Seriously man, THE ONLY BRITISH PLAYER YOU KNOW??

:p I am disappoint...
EleGant[AoV]
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 00:23:04
June 15 2011 00:22 GMT
#169
i think we (team leaders) should meet to figure out the format, if it is going to be 4-1:1 1-2:2 or Winners League format (which i think is cooler)...

StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
June 15 2011 00:33 GMT
#170
Winners league format is cool but it takes a lot of time. i prefer the old school proleague style. just an opinion tho and i hope the matches will be streamed and casted! gogo nation wars!
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
June 15 2011 00:35 GMT
#171
On June 15 2011 09:33 icystorage wrote:
Winners league format is cool but it takes a lot of time. i prefer the old school proleague style. just an opinion tho and i hope the matches will be streamed and casted! gogo nation wars!

i think winners league in a NW is the best for entretaining. makes it more dramatic.
while old PL style, is easier to organize and demands less time.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 15 2011 00:55 GMT
#172
On June 15 2011 06:53 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 00:56 Crunchums wrote:
Who is in charge of the USA team?


I'll do it.


Its up to a vote from U.S. players. There are quite a few deserving people of leader of u.s. team.

I for one would love to see Tesla be U.S. leader. but i'm not american.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 15 2011 01:04 GMT
#173
On June 15 2011 09:55 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 06:53 Game wrote:
On June 15 2011 00:56 Crunchums wrote:
Who is in charge of the USA team?


I'll do it.


Its up to a vote from U.S. players. There are quite a few deserving people of leader of u.s. team.

I for one would love to see Tesla be U.S. leader. but i'm not american.

Game is hands down the best leader of the united states, no one organizes as much bw stuff as he does + he organizes LRM). Nouff said.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 15 2011 01:05 GMT
#174
He can have his opinion all he wants... clearly I know nothing about teams + Show Spoiler +
leader of 3x iCCupCL champions 2x BWCL champions
.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
June 15 2011 01:12 GMT
#175
If this actually happens I may fire up my BW again for something to do.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 01:20:02
June 15 2011 01:18 GMT
#176
On June 15 2011 10:05 Game wrote:
He can have his opinion all he wants... clearly I know nothing about teams + Show Spoiler +
leader of 3x iCCupCL champions 2x BWCL champions
.


Don't put words in my mouth please. I never said you were a bad leader. You are a more then capable leader. I just said I would love to see Tesla be leader. Since I know her, and she is a awesome person. That is all I said. Please don't take things and blow what I said into something bigger than what I auctally said.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 15 2011 01:48 GMT
#177
On June 15 2011 10:18 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 10:05 Game wrote:
He can have his opinion all he wants... clearly I know nothing about teams + Show Spoiler +
leader of 3x iCCupCL champions 2x BWCL champions
.


Don't put words in my mouth please. I never said you were a bad leader. You are a more then capable leader. I just said I would love to see Tesla be leader. Since I know her, and she is a awesome person. That is all I said. Please don't take things and blow what I said into something bigger than what I auctally said.


I don't blow man chill.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
qzlsecret
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico126 Posts
June 15 2011 02:03 GMT
#178
stop crying its time for new generations to build up the scene im IN ^^

Mexico reporting
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
June 15 2011 02:10 GMT
#179
Tesla would 200% be the wrong choice.
Being an awesome person in your opinion is not enough.
She has never done something like this and hence experience wise it would be more than logic to hand a task to somebody who has the experience.
Just recently there was a thread on iCCup where Tesla and Scan fought each other about vTv leadership where it was stated that she had no experience in being a clan leader.
LML
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
June 15 2011 03:04 GMT
#180
I would defiantly watch and cheer for this if it was streamed. Great idea!
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 04:09:27
June 15 2011 03:46 GMT
#181
I'm going to leave this up to you guys....

Poll: Possible CW Formats

WL Format (14)
 
34%

7 1v1 Bo1 (14)
 
34%

CL Format (11)
 
27%

6 1v1 + 1 2v2 (2)
 
5%

Other (Specify Below) (0)
 
0%

41 total votes

Your vote: Possible CW Formats

(Vote): CL Format
(Vote): WL Format
(Vote): 7 1v1 Bo1
(Vote): 6 1v1 + 1 2v2
(Vote): Other (Specify Below)



OP when you read this post, it'd be great if you can edit it into your op (if that's possible)?
Sorry...as you guys can probably tell, I'm not a TL frequenter like many of you :[
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
June 15 2011 03:48 GMT
#182
no 2v2 please >__>
brood war for life, brood war forever
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 15 2011 04:09 GMT
#183
Ahh crap, I updated the poll
I mean to say 7 1v1 Bo1, not Bo3.
Sorry about that
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
June 15 2011 04:41 GMT
#184
CL Format, 4 1v1 1 2v2 - but not with wildcad =)
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
June 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#185
On June 15 2011 12:46 Shiro)Tenshi wrote:
I'm going to leave this up to you guys....

Poll: Possible CW Formats

WL Format (14)
 
34%

7 1v1 Bo1 (14)
 
34%

CL Format (11)
 
27%

6 1v1 + 1 2v2 (2)
 
5%

Other (Specify Below) (0)
 
0%

41 total votes

Your vote: Possible CW Formats

(Vote): CL Format
(Vote): WL Format
(Vote): 7 1v1 Bo1
(Vote): 6 1v1 + 1 2v2
(Vote): Other (Specify Below)



OP when you read this post, it'd be great if you can edit it into your op (if that's possible)?
Sorry...as you guys can probably tell, I'm not a TL frequenter like many of you :[


in some options there is no 2v2, which is a fundamental part of a NW...
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 15 2011 04:59 GMT
#186
Any teams feel like they're having trouble gathering enough players and/or wishes establish a coalition with another team, please PM me asap and I'll try to match accordingly.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
June 15 2011 06:04 GMT
#187
I think you should definitely have a 2v2, which was included in all of the past NWs.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
June 15 2011 06:26 GMT
#188
On June 15 2011 09:35 XenOsky- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:33 icystorage wrote:
Winners league format is cool but it takes a lot of time. i prefer the old school proleague style. just an opinion tho and i hope the matches will be streamed and casted! gogo nation wars!

i think winners league in a NW is the best for entretaining. makes it more dramatic.
while old PL style, is easier to organize and demands less time.

but the old PL style at least let 8 players play every match compared to the minimum of 5 players in WL.
for example in 4-0 situations in a bo7 format.

a > b
c > d
e > f
g > h

compared to WL

a > b
a > d
a > f
a > h

considering 'a' is a very good player.

i hope you get my point >.<
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 15 2011 06:52 GMT
#189
bo7 WL requires only 4 per team, proleague format requires 6 (6 1v1s and an ace match). I guess if people complain a lot about 2v2 then you could have your ace game DECIDED by 2v2. As previously mentioned WL format is much more interesting as an all kill or reverse all kill could be possibilities.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
coolcrimefighter
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States378 Posts
June 15 2011 07:03 GMT
#190
im gonna be in taiwan this summer so can I play for their team?
Mango
Profile Joined July 2006
Belgium522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 07:40:01
June 15 2011 07:38 GMT
#191
For the 7 bo1 you need at least 6 1v1 players for each clanwar online. Knowing that not everybody can show up each time, you need at least 10 active 1v1 players with a decent enouf level for the wars to assure that you will not have to give any WO. This will exclude ALOT of countries. Some might be active enouf, but it won't be many. You could say to merge it up, but I think the lesser merges are needed the better, it should remain nationwars as much as possible in my view. As an extra this format also excludes 2v2, which would be a shame considering this is a very active part of BW.

Then winnersleague format would not be a way to determine which is the strongest country, which is what we are aiming for I think. This would be the way to determine which country has the strongest player. All good ofcourse, but I think individual tournaments are a better method to determine that order. In nationwars it should be the country with the best average skill to come out on top, promote a deep lineup. Winnersleague format is not the correct way to determine that. 2v2 is not included in this format as well. Also both of these formats would include that you need to keep your players online for a long timeperiod without them being able to play. It will be pretty hard for the leaders to make sure that all stay online for the entire period.

Even though the normal CL format is used so often, I think it still is the best format to use for the nationwars. You need to show some dept in your team, but it still is a number of players that a lot of countries will be able to reach. It includes 2v2 and is all you need in my opinion.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 11:59:02
June 15 2011 11:57 GMT
#192
Winners League format would be absolutely horrible for this league as the skill level between players is too high. I assume there will be countries who doesn't have many top foreign players or have only 1. You think it would be fun and encouraging to other players of that nation to lose 0-4 every nation war to one person. Not to a whole nation, but to a single person.

7 1v1 bo1's seems to be best option as that gives opportunity to a lot of players to play, even those not so good. And since it's a bo1 they might practice hard specific strategy and pull an upset on better players!

edit: oh yeah, definitely should include 2v2 too. It's a staple of foreign leagues.
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Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 13:53:17
June 15 2011 13:52 GMT
#193
On June 15 2011 20:57 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Winners League format would be absolutely horrible for this league as the skill level between players is too high. I assume there will be countries who doesn't have many top foreign players or have only 1. You think it would be fun and encouraging to other players of that nation to lose 0-4 every nation war to one person. Not to a whole nation, but to a single person.

7 1v1 bo1's seems to be best option as that gives opportunity to a lot of players to play, even those not so good. And since it's a bo1 they might practice hard specific strategy and pull an upset on better players!

edit: oh yeah, definitely should include 2v2 too. It's a staple of foreign leagues.


This is what I'm afraid of and is exactly what I think...
which would mean that 6 1v1's and 1 2v2 would be most logical...bo3?

In any case, I agree that WL format isn't the best for this event
sCriv
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom90 Posts
June 15 2011 13:52 GMT
#194
In my opinion there should definitely be 2v2 games involved. A massive part NW was 2v2. My vote is 6 1v1 bo1 and 1 or maybe even 2 2v2
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 15 2011 13:59 GMT
#195
The problem is getting that many people online. I don't know if I'll be able to find that many people to get a squad together, let alone getting them all online at the same time. I think,considering this is just starting up again, 4x1v1 1x2v2 would be best, and if it's running strong and there's good activity then start thinking about 6x1v1 etc.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
June 15 2011 14:08 GMT
#196
On June 15 2011 11:10 LML wrote:
Just recently there was a thread on iCCup where Tesla and Scan fought each other about vTv leadership where it was stated that she had no experience in being a clan leader.


http://www.iccup.com/community/thread/186666.html
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
June 15 2011 14:32 GMT
#197
Yes, the main problem with 7 games (6 1v1s, 1 2v2) is that for most nations will be pretty much impossible to get that many people at same time.

So I think the format should be like old proleague was:


Player 1 Player 2


Player 3 Player 4


Player 5 & Player 6 Player 7 & Player 8


Player 9 Player 10

= Ace Match
Player 11 Player 12

Example thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52560

It's similar to our standard clan war format, but the difference is that games are played after each other and not at the same time, which increases team spirit when you cheer for your team mate waiting on his results while watching the stream.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
AnyOne
Profile Joined January 2008
Chile547 Posts
June 15 2011 14:33 GMT
#198
On June 15 2011 23:32 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Yes, the main problem with 7 games (6 1v1s, 1 2v2) is that for most nations will be pretty much impossible to get that many people at same time.

So I think the format should be like old proleague was:

<Set 1>
Player 1 <map> Player 2

<Set 2>
Player 3 <map> Player 4

<Set 3>
Player 5 & Player 6 <map> Player 7 & Player 8

<Set 4>
Player 9 <map> Player 10

<Set 5> = Ace Match
Player 11 <map> Player 12

Example thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52560

It's similar to our standard clan war format, but the difference is that games are played after each other and not at the same time, which increases team spirit when you cheer for your team mate waiting on his results while watching the stream.

totally agree
STX SOuL FightinG~ Inter.Calm FigthinG ~
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
June 15 2011 14:38 GMT
#199
^ This might be the best format for this event. I really like it. That way ppl could be sniped on certain maps and team leadership would play a higher role.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
June 15 2011 15:00 GMT
#200
tenshi i think for the cw format just wait to all natons get a leader and talk with u about this,not make the format be votes here ....
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 15 2011 15:05 GMT
#201
On June 15 2011 23:32 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Yes, the main problem with 7 games (6 1v1s, 1 2v2) is that for most nations will be pretty much impossible to get that many people at same time.

So I think the format should be like old proleague was:

<Set 1>
Player 1 <map> Player 2

<Set 2>
Player 3 <map> Player 4

<Set 3>
Player 5 & Player 6 <map> Player 7 & Player 8

<Set 4>
Player 9 <map> Player 10

<Set 5> = Ace Match
Player 11 <map> Player 12

Example thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52560

It's similar to our standard clan war format, but the difference is that games are played after each other and not at the same time, which increases team spirit when you cheer for your team mate waiting on his results while watching the stream.


absoutley agree with this.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 15 2011 15:14 GMT
#202
On June 15 2011 23:32 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Yes, the main problem with 7 games (6 1v1s, 1 2v2) is that for most nations will be pretty much impossible to get that many people at same time.

So I think the format should be like old proleague was:

<Set 1>
Player 1 <map> Player 2

<Set 2>
Player 3 <map> Player 4

<Set 3>
Player 5 & Player 6 <map> Player 7 & Player 8

<Set 4>
Player 9 <map> Player 10

<Set 5> = Ace Match
Player 11 <map> Player 12

Example thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52560

It's similar to our standard clan war format, but the difference is that games are played after each other and not at the same time, which increases team spirit when you cheer for your team mate waiting on his results while watching the stream.


+1
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
June 15 2011 15:21 GMT
#203
Maybe we can have the default format be the old Proleague Bo5, but if both team leaders agree to it, then they can increase it to a Bo7? This way, smaller teams will be able to play, but if two of the bigger teams face off, they'll be able to play a longer series and not be restricted because of the small teams.
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
June 15 2011 15:50 GMT
#204
On June 16 2011 00:21 Sayle wrote:
Maybe we can have the default format be the old Proleague Bo5, but if both team leaders agree to it, then they can increase it to a Bo7? This way, smaller teams will be able to play, but if two of the bigger teams face off, they'll be able to play a longer series and not be restricted because of the small teams.


yeah, i agree with this
certainly we have to accommodate small teams, but i think we still have to consider players in big teams.
we hold this event because we want to revive SC community, therefore it is better for us to get more people involved in it.
SC forever!
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 15 2011 16:33 GMT
#205
On June 16 2011 00:50 stevewch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 00:21 Sayle wrote:
Maybe we can have the default format be the old Proleague Bo5, but if both team leaders agree to it, then they can increase it to a Bo7? This way, smaller teams will be able to play, but if two of the bigger teams face off, they'll be able to play a longer series and not be restricted because of the small teams.


yeah, i agree with this
certainly we have to accommodate small teams, but i think we still have to consider players in big teams.
we hold this event because we want to revive SC community, therefore it is better for us to get more people involved in it.


Who are you?
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
June 15 2011 17:11 GMT
#206
On June 16 2011 01:33 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 00:50 stevewch wrote:
On June 16 2011 00:21 Sayle wrote:
Maybe we can have the default format be the old Proleague Bo5, but if both team leaders agree to it, then they can increase it to a Bo7? This way, smaller teams will be able to play, but if two of the bigger teams face off, they'll be able to play a longer series and not be restricted because of the small teams.


yeah, i agree with this
certainly we have to accommodate small teams, but i think we still have to consider players in big teams.
we hold this event because we want to revive SC community, therefore it is better for us to get more people involved in it.


Who are you?


i am just a newcomer to tl
anything wrong with that?
SC forever!
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 15 2011 17:23 GMT
#207
On June 16 2011 02:11 stevewch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 01:33 Game wrote:
On June 16 2011 00:50 stevewch wrote:
On June 16 2011 00:21 Sayle wrote:
Maybe we can have the default format be the old Proleague Bo5, but if both team leaders agree to it, then they can increase it to a Bo7? This way, smaller teams will be able to play, but if two of the bigger teams face off, they'll be able to play a longer series and not be restricted because of the small teams.


yeah, i agree with this
certainly we have to accommodate small teams, but i think we still have to consider players in big teams.
we hold this event because we want to revive SC community, therefore it is better for us to get more people involved in it.


Who are you?


i am just a newcomer to tl
anything wrong with that?


"we", are you part of the iCCup Nation War staff?
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 15 2011 17:43 GMT
#208
we as a community perhaps?
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
kade
Profile Joined March 2011
94 Posts
June 15 2011 18:05 GMT
#209
On May 28 2011 00:08 XenOsky- wrote:


I remember back in the days (LoL 1 and a half year ago) most new chilean players were training for a shot in the Chilean Squad


how much training does it take to press 5sz6sz7sz
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
June 16 2011 00:01 GMT
#210
On June 16 2011 02:43 Pads wrote:
we as a community perhaps?

yeah, that's my meaning.
SC forever!
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
June 16 2011 00:06 GMT
#211
On June 16 2011 00:05 Pads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 23:32 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Yes, the main problem with 7 games (6 1v1s, 1 2v2) is that for most nations will be pretty much impossible to get that many people at same time.

So I think the format should be like old proleague was:

<Set 1>
Player 1 <map> Player 2

<Set 2>
Player 3 <map> Player 4

<Set 3>
Player 5 & Player 6 <map> Player 7 & Player 8

<Set 4>
Player 9 <map> Player 10

<Set 5> = Ace Match
Player 11 <map> Player 12

Example thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52560

It's similar to our standard clan war format, but the difference is that games are played after each other and not at the same time, which increases team spirit when you cheer for your team mate waiting on his results while watching the stream.


absoutley agree with this.


yeah that sounds great

also lol @ the 1sz2sz3sz comment
aka DragOn[NaS]
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 16 2011 00:29 GMT
#212
On June 16 2011 00:21 Sayle wrote:
Maybe we can have the default format be the old Proleague Bo5, but if both team leaders agree to it, then they can increase it to a Bo7? This way, smaller teams will be able to play, but if two of the bigger teams face off, they'll be able to play a longer series and not be restricted because of the small teams.

+1 Agree.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1688 Posts
June 16 2011 00:51 GMT
#213
I like the idea of an adaptable system, at least until the interest and activity can be properly gauged. Nice idea.
EleGant[AoV]
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 16 2011 09:31 GMT
#214
On June 16 2011 09:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
I like the idea of an adaptable system, at least until the interest and activity can be properly gauged. Nice idea.

GOGO elegannnt!
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
June 16 2011 10:01 GMT
#215
On June 15 2011 23:32 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Yes, the main problem with 7 games (6 1v1s, 1 2v2) is that for most nations will be pretty much impossible to get that many people at same time.

So I think the format should be like old proleague was:

<Set 1>
Player 1 <map> Player 2

<Set 2>
Player 3 <map> Player 4

<Set 3>
Player 5 & Player 6 <map> Player 7 & Player 8

<Set 4>
Player 9 <map> Player 10

<Set 5> = Ace Match
Player 11 <map> Player 12

Example thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52560

It's similar to our standard clan war format, but the difference is that games are played after each other and not at the same time, which increases team spirit when you cheer for your team mate waiting on his results while watching the stream.



this is what i was thinking
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
June 16 2011 10:16 GMT
#216
On June 16 2011 02:23 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 02:11 stevewch wrote:
On June 16 2011 01:33 Game wrote:
On June 16 2011 00:50 stevewch wrote:
On June 16 2011 00:21 Sayle wrote:
Maybe we can have the default format be the old Proleague Bo5, but if both team leaders agree to it, then they can increase it to a Bo7? This way, smaller teams will be able to play, but if two of the bigger teams face off, they'll be able to play a longer series and not be restricted because of the small teams.


yeah, i agree with this
certainly we have to accommodate small teams, but i think we still have to consider players in big teams.
we hold this event because we want to revive SC community, therefore it is better for us to get more people involved in it.


Who are you?


i am just a newcomer to tl
anything wrong with that?


"we", are you part of the iCCup Nation War staff?


why the fuck you have to be so aggresive to everyone?
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
qzlsecret
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico126 Posts
June 17 2011 19:25 GMT
#217
hi? o.O
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 19 2011 21:53 GMT
#218
soo any new news here?
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
June 19 2011 22:15 GMT
#219
Sorry guys....there were some internal disputes regarding various issues, but the official thread is finally up
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235271
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