EPT[Thoughts]Balance change - Page 6
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radar14
United States1437 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28738 Posts
if I remember correctly, it used to be 8 x 16 damage it is now 8 x 14 (went from 128 to 112) however each of those attacks are not "per second" and this does indeed mean that it makes a difference. but that's not the important reason why scvs should have 60 hp. they need that kind of hp when repairing buildings under attack and to withstand peonharassment while building buildings. if you are seriously under the opinion that terran > all then I'm sure you can justify this. however personally as a random player, I'd hate this. of course, as a random player I never encounter rax before depot builds and I can safely fast expand every zvt I play, but whatever.  | ||
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pfff
Belgium1352 Posts
funny that zerg players suddenly start to complain about the unbeatable 8 rax strat just because it happened in ONE progamer final. i mean, its not like boxer invented bunker rushes, they have been around for years but suddenly they are imbalanced. | ||
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thelucas
Slovakia285 Posts
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
That's great, except 12/3 isn't difficult for zerg because of the fact he can't fast expo, but becuase its hard for the zerg to get control of the middle as well as DEFENDING his expo as soon as he takes it because they are close. Has nothing to do with bunker rushes, fast expoing on close positions is RETARDED anyway. Increase bunker time? How about we just increase hatchery build time for the same increase that we add bunker time? Would gladly do that. At least you're not talking about lowering SCV health, but I'd also gladly lower SCVs to 45 if lings are reduced to 30. | ||
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Red_Dragon
Croatia2862 Posts
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pfff
Belgium1352 Posts
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thelucas
Slovakia285 Posts
8 rax is only strategy on this buil, when Z use any another build, t is in da shit. | ||
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TheGoliath
United States682 Posts
go 12 pool then hatch, 8 rax sucks ass against it if i'm not mistaken | ||
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[G]Max_Power
Slovakia304 Posts
On January 05 2005 05:15 thelucas wrote: Some people want to does not exist any strategy to beat Z 12 hatch ^^. 8 rax is only strategy on this buil, when Z use any another build, t is in da shit. plz learn english and stop sucking with T and giving advice and then using ^^ actually all of you stop using ^^ -it makes you look like a dumbass | ||
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TheGoliath
United States682 Posts
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Red_Dragon
Croatia2862 Posts
IMO blizzard needs to impruve scarab ai, so he can`t miss once fired. | ||
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pfff
Belgium1352 Posts
because boxer beat yellow 3-0? because some terrans are cheesing a lot in ladders? sorry, but these are not reasons for claiming that tvz is imbalanced, i always considered it the most balanced matchup, bunker rush or no bunker rush, its not like 8 rax is an unstoppable strategy or something, but the way some people are posting here, you would start to believe it. | ||
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thelucas
Slovakia285 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
 I never liked tree in the first place but now I understand why he hates you so much. lings reduced to 30? What are you talking about? Do you even use your brain to think? Ever heard of ZvP? What makes increasing bunker build time so impossibly difficult for you? Even though you dont even need to bunker rush a zerg to win a game. Increasing bunker time does not mean there will be no more bunker rushes, it just means it will be easier to fight them off to maintain an equal footing. This is an obvious terran advantage early game. | ||
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Resse
307 Posts
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
And they also whined about zerg rushes so Blizzard gave them what they want and bumped the pool to 200 bucks. This helped protosses too. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On January 05 2005 09:36 Tien wrote: Well terrans used to whine back in the day when 2 hatcheries produced as much as 3 today. And they also whined about zerg rushes so Blizzard gave them what they want and bumped the pool to 200 bucks. This helped protosses too. 90% of the 1.08 changes were to stop newbie terrans from bitching. The funny thing is that quick rax builds are much more devastating now than ling rushes were back then. | ||
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ProudCappi
United States366 Posts
On January 05 2005 09:40 Mindcrime wrote: 90% of the 1.08 changes were to stop newbie terrans from bitching. The funny thing is that quick rax builds are much more devastating now than ling rushes were back then. Pro terrans were also fucked up. Pretty much only boxer managed to shine as a T. EDIT: And exalted was clearly joking about the zerg health. He was making a point. | ||
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