Fantasy Winners League 2011 - Page 14

On January 13 2011 09:06 kOre wrote:

Or would there be a penalty of 10 points for team switching? All in all seems like a pretty good idea to me.

On January 13 2011 13:32 Tekin wrote:
So here is my trade for next week.

Flying for Princess
Hogil for Modesty

Anti:
Tyson for Bogus

Anybody wanna help me if this is a good trade?

On January 14 2011 00:33 GG_NO_RE wrote:
the trading system from the last 'unofficial' round of FPL (from integral) was amazing. i know it'd be some work to implement, but it would greatly, greatly improve the current system. and with 1000ish people signed up this round there is still clearly interest in FPL.

basically, integral allowed people to use trade differentials in their other trades. like if you traded player A at 20 points for player B at 18 points, you can use those 2 players to get a higher player on your main team or lower player on your anti team. moreover, you can bank these points for later weeks if you don't use them immediately (i.e. if you did the A/B trade here, the 2 point difference carried on to later weeks so you can use it after).

if there is any way to implement this for next round, i think it would make FPL really, really amazing. probs for running this hot bid, for sure, but with integral's trading system it would be that much more awesome AND it would really make trading way more important, forcing more gambles and smart decisions.

On January 14 2011 10:36 Qatol wrote:
For example, STX owners cannot trade their team right now (except for ACE - but that isn't really an option) even if they are willing to give a more one-sided deal with their players to make it happen. Very frustrating.

On January 15 2011 16:21 prototype. wrote:
Should I be happy that bisu is doing so well...? or mad that fantasy never plays anymore?

On January 14 2011 20:25 Subversive wrote:
I'm against the proposed trading change as well. If you trade someone whose 20 points for someone who is 18 then you SHOULD lose those points. That's part of the loss/risk of getting to trade, in addition to the trade tax.

Some people spend about 10 minutes picking their teams. Others spend hours. I think getting the ability to trade with less loss would reward people who put together pretty crappy teams on the fly.

I also agree with Itachi that if you have some useless players or a team that cost you next to nothing that you find yourself unable to trade, it means you probably invested in alot of decently expensive players or 2 powerhouses (like picking Flash/JD this round ).

On January 15 2011 17:17 GG_NO_RE wrote:

this assumes that people who have bad teams don't spend hours picking, which is not always the case. sometimes you put a lot of time into it and you just get bad luck. also, if you think points should be lost, it might be a compromise to not have points saved for future weeks, but you should be able to use the spare points WITHIN that week at least imo.

i'm also not sure how having powerhouses with crappy players is relevant for the trading debate. you'd still have to trade those powerhouses away to get better players for the rest of your team. AND you still have to make smart trades and make a gamble. AND you still get the trade tax.

the differential point system make FPL more exciting and less passive. right now if you have some shitty performers it's almost impossible to do anything about it, and just queues up people who have given up and await the next round. with a more dynamic trade system it's more engaging for all of the participants.

On January 16 2011 01:27 Subversive wrote:


Powerhouses and crappy players is relevant because it's about not being able to put all your eggs in one basket without risk. If you pick a team of average point players you spread your risk evenly across your team. Either way there's luck involved.

If you spent hours and picked a good team but got unlucky then that's the luck factor for you. If you spent hours and didn't pick a good team, that's the skill factor.

The extra options would create problems. Here's an example. Each week Ace plays 2 opponents. You could use your trading with transfer of points to make sure you always have the team that is playing Ace.

You never have to give up on a team during a round. People who have a bad start can always try and climb higher as the weeks go on. There's always someone you can trade for, it just requires more gamble.