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. I don't have him on my anti but he did not let Flash play 
.EDIT: 80 have Violet on anti and 20 on main.
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
. I don't have him on my anti but he did not let Flash play .EDIT: 80 have Violet on anti and 20 on main. | ||
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salito
1647 Posts
 BaBy next week. Instead, he all-kills ACE. | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
 Stats again from R2 since he's in KTFlash who is pretty much invincible atm. Damn you January for not sending out Brave Also,  Jaedong isn't performing while the other two 2 digit big buys are netting points, Bisu in particular. FML >< I'M SORRY JD IT'S MY FAULT.What can you do, JD/OZ fan ><, cmon OZ pick yourselves up. Or win the MSL JD. Like everyone else, I can't believe Jaehoon 3 killed the other day, as if Action wasn't raping up my anti with KTFlash wins already lol | ||
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BlackMesa
Kenya338 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
Violet, you are now offically the only protoss player in BW that I hope will lose all games forever!! | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
Bad Ideas! On January 05 2011 17:06 Scarecrow wrote: So pumped for this :D Bisu straight to my anti team (Bisu: 17-2 in the first two rounds, 8-1 with double AK in R3.) On January 09 2011 02:26 Jackal03 wrote: and i decided not to jump on stork's bandwagon, hope he doesn't peform well in this WL (Stork: 12-7 in the first two rounds, 7-0 with RAK in R3.) Overreaction! On January 12 2011 15:24 prototype. wrote: wow... gonna go abandon ship ggaemo wasn't supposed to be the reason my anti-team owns me (ggaemo: 11-8 in the first two rounds, 2-2 in R3.) On January 12 2011 17:49 infinitestory wrote: Same. Except with Crazy-Hydra instead of Ggaemo. Which is several times worse because Crazy-Hydra, unlike Ggaemo, is usually terrible (Crazy-Hydra: 8-6 in the first two rounds, 1-0 in R3) Now the actual post: Team Scoring! On January 17 2011 20:20 Turbovolver wrote: Does anyone else think there's something wrong with the scoring system when a 2-1 team has more points than both 3-0 teams? =/ I checked the last page or two and didn't see this discussed, hope I'm right on that =x It's a little weird, but at some point you have to reward the big wins more than the small ones in order to create some "strategy" for picking teams. And at that, I'm not sure how to generate points differently. I'd guess maybe you'd have to collapse the scale back to a single line rather than two different ones depending how much you win by. For instance if instead of 8/6/4/2/1/0/-1/-2 it was 5/4/3/2/1/0/-1/-2 we'd change like this: Four Matches Played 1. KT (4-0, +7) 14 -> 11 1. SKT (2-2, +4) 14 -> 10 3. STX (2-2, +1) 11 -> 7 3. FOX (2-2, +1) 11 -> 7 5. MBC (2-2, +2) 10 -> 8 9. HITE (0-4, -9) -1 -> -1 Three Matches Played 5. KHAN (3-0, +5) 10 -> 7 7. WJN (2-1, 0) 5 -> 4 8. OZ (1-2, -2) 4 -> 3 10. ACE (0-3, -9) -3 -> -3 Current Hypothetical Rank 1. KT (4-0), 11 2. SKT (2-2), 10 3. MBC (2-2), 8 4. SAM (3-0), 7 4. FOX (2-2), 7 4. STX (2-2), 7 7. WJN (2-1), 4 8. OZ (1-2), 3 9. HITE (0-4), -1 10. ACE (0-3), -3 This seems more accurate imo. SKT's still highly ranked because both losses were ace losses. KHAN is a little lower than match record would seem to make sense for because they're losing 2+ games every time. The big problem with the scoring system as-is (which I hope is addressed in the future) is that it uses two different scales with the result that it rewards winning more than it punishes losing, so teams that win big - especially if they lose small when they lose - get rewarded disproportionately to teams that win small but win consistently (in this case SKT equalling KT is the standout example). The other thing the inflated winning rewards do is inflate team value a little bit for good teams; for WL rounds this is okay (maybe even beneficial) since the best WL players also get "inflated" win totals and points due to playing more games, but it's a problem for regular proleague format rounds. And Trading! The problem with trading multiple players who match a total cost is that it's In order to make a multi-trade system "fair", there would have to be some sort of extra penalty. You can trade two players, but only for lesser total overall (5+2)-(penalty). With the adjusted trade value, it could be something like knocking off 10%, so if you're making a multi-trade of two players worth 7, you can only pick up two players worth 6.3 total. Alternatively, trading more than one player using the extra value could cost extra points: -1 to trade one player, but -2 to trade the next, -3 if you trade the third. (On the other hand, it could be really interesting if you could "bank" extra trade value for the NEXT trade session. Trade off Kim for Jin this week, bank the extra 1, and next week swap out Jun and his now 0-1 for a slightly better player. I'd totally be down with that, and by adding the delay in it increases the strategic possibilities. Of course, I'm also sure it would be really hard to set up!) | ||
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DropBear
Australia4396 Posts
Bad 7s Light on 2 points (0-2)Shine on 2 points (0-2)Kal on 2 points (0-2)Good 7s Fantasy on 12 points (4-2)Baby on 11 points (4-2)Hydra on 10 points (4-3)Excellent 7s Stork on 22 points (7-0)Sea on 15 points (6-4) | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6184 Posts
Hope that give me another good boost I also love my anti-team, currently only giving me -2 ... Got my answer, now ranked 58 =) | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On January 19 2011 20:51 FaCE_1 wrote: 2 day ago i was 450, this morning I was 75 and I jsut saw Turn with a cool 3win. Hope that give me another good boost I also love my anti-team, currently only giving me -2 ... Got my answer, now ranked 58 =) Turn's 3kill is indeed fantastic. Boosted me up to top 20 =]. | ||
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
On January 19 2011 15:01 DropBear wrote: There's been heaps of variety between the performances of the 7-pointers at time of writing. Most teams would have had one of these players. Bad 7s Light on 2 points (0-2)Shine on 2 points (0-2)Kal on 2 points (0-2)Good 7s Fantasy on 12 points (4-2)Baby on 11 points (4-2)Hydra on 10 points (4-3)Excellent 7s Stork on 22 points (7-0)Sea on 15 points (6-4)I have Kal and Light, FML | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
Is trading working for anyone? When I click trade, the page reloads, but there's no confirmation button or text. It's for someone of equal value, so it might be a case of a > instead of a >= ? | ||
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Tekin
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
zero blows. so bad. and i guess putting hiya and killer on my anti was not so bright lolol | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
On January 20 2011 04:42 imperfect wrote: damn zero blows. so bad. and i guess putting hiya and killer on my anti was not so bright lolol Bad thing about that is that if Jaedong pulls through, they eat through your anti from OZ wins. Another bad thing about putting HiyA and even more so Killer in your anti is that Killer always always always gets sent out every game unless Jaedong starts in Game 1 and AKs. HiyA is usually played over BackHo and Lomo (though it was different the other day). Either way, you're shooting yourself in the foot. Yes, as an OZ fan I find it annoying that they have choked so much this season, but because of the other factors they're dangerous to try - I also wanted HiyA on anti initially, 2-12 would be a no-brainer to pick for an anti eh Which also makes Bogus a bad idea generally, I've never seen him not produce results since he started being fielded regularly in PL. STX rarely have a game played without using him. Jaehoon doesn't always get sent out for MBC, but it's just unforunate that January sent some guys to be practice food for him. I had too much faith in ACE after their R2 performance, they're getting utterly dominated by teams with strong individual players, shoulda had one of them on anti. Of course, this is only my first season playing SPL, but I'm starting to get it I suppose. I've made a couple of mistakes myself ^^ | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
i still disagree that this qualifies as a bad idea it's a fluke i tell you I still think the biggest mistake I made in selecting my FPL was predicting that hite would stay strong. Snow and Skyhigh total to 2 points, something like that. Very underwhelming. Best choice I made - so far, at least - is picking Light for anti. Let's see if that holds up, although judging from MBC's recent games, not only is Light weak, but Sea is far and away the ace. | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
On January 20 2011 16:06 infinitestory wrote: i still disagree that this qualifies as a bad idea it's a fluke i tell you I still think the biggest mistake I made in selecting my FPL was predicting that hite would stay strong. Snow and Skyhigh total to 2 points, something like that. Very underwhelming. Best choice I made - so far, at least - is picking Light for anti. Let's see if that holds up, although judging from MBC's recent games, not only is Light weak, but Sea is far and away the ace. I don't think anyone saw it coming either, they don't have many bad players (at least that's what I think), The real tragedy is Leta, 9 pointer scoring 0 at the moment. Hite have the capability to win a lot more games than that, but atm it feels like Hydra is a one man team. Hydra at 13, then Movie at 57 and Snow/Miso at 58 on FPL stats ><, rest have 0 points lol. In the spirit of Jaedong Oz and KTFlash I hereby proclaim hite Entus = Hydra Entus. | ||
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