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Shine
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Q: Your thoughts on making the RO16.
▲ I had too much luck in my matches so I won, I don't know either. I'm baffled as well.
Q: Your opponent was Bisu.
▲ I'm more happy about beating Bisu than making the RO16. The match got much attention from the fans, so I was under a lot of pressure. I won so I'm very happy.
Q: You managed a comeback in the first game.
▲ I wanted to gg when my base got destroyed. But Pathfinder is a map with a strange fascination to it. It was the same in the first Round, you have to hold on and try to turn the game around. I really love this map (laughs).
Q: You planned to all in Bisu in the second game.
▲ I planned to go hydra-ling, but I saw that he built many dragoons, so I knew what he was up to. I was thinking about playing it this way (T/N I guess all-in), and I killed the cannons, so I got the right timing. The goon micro was very good, so I had to fight very hard, but I got the opening advantage, so I won in the end.
Q: You are only very strong when facing Bisu.
▲ Rather than being very strong when facing Bisu, I would say I'm very lucky in the OSL. Although Bisu is much better than me, I was just so lucky, so I won. (laughs).
Q: Your goal this time around.
▲ Making it out of the preliminaries already fullfilled my goals. I can now take part in the group stages, I think this is where the real OSL begins, I will do my best. I have to fight against 15 excellent players, so I have to be more careful during the matches.
Q: Any final words.
▲ My teammates and coaches helped me very much for my matches against Suny and Bisu, also the support from the fans and family gave me great strength. I know I have to work on many areas, but your support let me make it to the RO 16. I'm really grateful for that.
Source: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=218150
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Croatia9505 Posts
Ugh, the most hated player by all Protoss fans!
After he got lucky the 1st game, he decides to cheese in the 2nd...
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ah, just as i was starting to hate you less and less
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On November 27 2010 02:12 whitelynx wrote:Well, who would have expected this. + Show Spoiler +
i called it the moment i saw the potential for bisu vs shine
shine brought yong taek back kekekekekeke
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Gotta love Shine, showing D players across the world that cheesing can get you places...
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It's as if Pathfinder was designed specifically for Shine to get his chance to do this, lol
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On November 27 2010 02:14 IcyPringle wrote:
Gotta love Shine, showing D players across the world that cheesing can get you places...
Poor Bisu
still losing to D level cheeses
Yeah Bisu really is that bad, sry guys, you guys were cheering for someone with no skills at all.
...seriously. The more you guys insult Shine, the more you're actually insulting Bisu, who was knocked out by him. Twice.
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insult is twice on bisu since he lost to shine TWICE in a starleague( was it OSL? or MSL.)
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nice work shine :D
guessing bisu wasnt really back
thanks for the fast translation
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All this he's back he isnt talk is really dumb.
The first game was a big blunder by Bisu. The second showed some amazing micro and very unfortunate BO loss.
I guess, as it was said on the other thread, Bisu hasnt learned to forsee the allinish game that Shine plays.
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Haha yes shine :D
Bisu needed to get punted down a peg
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Damn it bisu. Looks like you aren't back in form
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On November 27 2010 03:22 vectorix108 wrote:
Damn it bisu. Looks like you aren't back in form
an in form bisu could lose to cheesy noobs too ...
im not saying he's back tho
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Bisu got complacent and mis-micro his corsairs, which is really unfortunate considering the advantage he had in the first set. And his scouting probe lasted the longest I ever seen in my short BW stream following.
Shine deserves the second game though. Bisu just failed to scout the 3 hatch hydra build and couldn't counter well.
Shine fighting~
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On November 27 2010 02:16 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 02:14 IcyPringle wrote:
Gotta love Shine, showing D players across the world that cheesing can get you places... Poor Bisu still losing to D level cheeses Yeah Bisu really is that bad, sry guys, you guys were cheering for someone with no skills at all. ...seriously. The more you guys insult Shine, the more you're actually insulting Bisu, who was knocked out by him. Twice.
I don't know if this is a terrible joke or an actual misinformed opinion.
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hope he finds a terran futher on that kills him over. Shine is the ultimate BW OSL troll.
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I really don´t understand all the hate for shine.
Everybody (including him) knew that Bisu was the favorite to win, so he did what should be expected from him (and everybody who wants to win), he cheesed in game 2. In game 1 Bisu had a huge lead and threw it away....
Blame Bisu because
1. In both matches today he didn´t prepare for what was relatively obvious to come (a counter-attack in game 1, a cheese in game 2)
2. He underestimated Shine...again....(looking at their records, Shine is 5-3 over Bisu!!)
And for the "cheese" argument. In game 2 Bisu was going for a five-gate-dragoon-build which can also be seen as a cheesy build...
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Netherlands4993 Posts
Shine is so modest... :')
He made a huge comeback in game 1. And in game 2 he produced ling/dra and attacked just before Bisu could do the all in he planned to do, allowing him to slowly take the upperhand while they both kept pumping n microing men.
Great games, TyphoonZerg fighting! :D
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All the rage from the Bisu fans haha.
Shine is very humble. That interview especially shows it. Hope he does well as he goes deeper into the OSL.
Wemade Represent~
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Dammit 
Shine = The Grinch.
Sigh. Smart playing by Shine; he did what he had to do. As a fan of Bisu, I'm more upset with his loss than with his opponent's victory.
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Double blow for Bisu fans: no OSL + his ELO vZ won't be his peak anymore
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Bisu needs to stop underestimating his opponents.
I've lost too many games like that too.
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Boy I'm so angry at Bisu and Shine for spoiling what could have been an epic Bisu vs Jaedong further along the lines.
Sux
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Shine now ahead in head to heads vs Bisu. Better luck next OSL.
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They removed Protoss plain from Proleague, why not remove Zergfinder from OSL ?
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Every result today sucked. What a sad, sad Ro16.
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On November 27 2010 05:17 kamikami wrote:
They removed Protoss plain from Proleague, why not remove Zergfinder from OSL ?
Because trollmaps are a tradition in the individual leagues.
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Damn..... you..... shine............
FJSDFLKSJDF WHYYYY BISU DON'T GO IN A SLUMP AGAIN AFTER THIS T+T
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guys, everyone has his/her weaknesses
superman had kryptonite
george bush had vocabulary and syntax
bisu has shine
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Thanks for the translation!
Long live BW!
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gj shine ! you make bisu fanboys full with rage :D
on a more serious note bisu played really bad so shine deserved that win
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Really enjoyed Shine's matches, he used man-drones in set one and a very nice timing attack on set two.
On November 27 2010 04:40 Lightwip wrote:
Bisu needs to stop underestimating his opponents.
I've lost too many games like that too.
So true.
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United States4053 Posts
i actually counted here, and there are more people who support shine b/c bisu fan tears than support shine b/c shine is a good player. it's disgusting.
+ Show Spoiler +BISUUUUUUUUUUUUU NOOOOOO Q___Q
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On November 27 2010 03:27 Wohmfg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 02:16 Milkis wrote:On November 27 2010 02:14 IcyPringle wrote:
Gotta love Shine, showing D players across the world that cheesing can get you places... Poor Bisu still losing to D level cheeses Yeah Bisu really is that bad, sry guys, you guys were cheering for someone with no skills at all. ...seriously. The more you guys insult Shine, the more you're actually insulting Bisu, who was knocked out by him. Twice. I don't know if this is a terrible joke or an actual misinformed opinion.
check out milkis' team icon lol
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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Its just the EXACT SAME THING.
I can't believe bisu wouldn't try a little harder lolololol
Shine made ro4 last time, lets see what he can do this time lol
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On November 27 2010 05:48 TheNessman wrote:
Its just the EXACT SAME THING.
I can't believe bisu wouldn't try a little harder lolololol
Shine made ro4 last time, lets see what he can do this time lol
Wait did he? I'm pretty sure it was Flash 3-1 Free and Jaedong 3-2 Stork.
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Looks like another Flash vs Jeadong finish guys.
Hopeing for some Epic Flash vs Bisu. TvP.
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On November 27 2010 05:38 infinitestory wrote:i actually counted here, and there are more people who support shine b/c bisu fan tears than support shine b/c shine is a good player. it's disgusting. + Show Spoiler +BISUUUUUUUUUUUUU NOOOOOO Q___Q
I'm a fan of shine from his play, but bisu fan tears are so delicious
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On November 27 2010 05:57 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 05:48 TheNessman wrote:
Its just the EXACT SAME THING.
I can't believe bisu wouldn't try a little harder lolololol
Shine made ro4 last time, lets see what he can do this time lol Wait did he? I'm pretty sure it was Flash 3-1 Free and Jaedong 3-2 Stork.
He's talking about EVER 2009
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On November 27 2010 05:38 infinitestory wrote:i actually counted here, and there are more people who support shine b/c bisu fan tears than support shine b/c shine is a good player. it's disgusting. + Show Spoiler +BISUUUUUUUUUUUUU NOOOOOO Q___Q edit: Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 03:27 Wohmfg wrote:On November 27 2010 02:16 Milkis wrote:On November 27 2010 02:14 IcyPringle wrote:
Gotta love Shine, showing D players across the world that cheesing can get you places... Poor Bisu still losing to D level cheeses Yeah Bisu really is that bad, sry guys, you guys were cheering for someone with no skills at all. ...seriously. The more you guys insult Shine, the more you're actually insulting Bisu, who was knocked out by him. Twice. I don't know if this is a terrible joke or an actual misinformed opinion. check out milkis' team icon lol
I really like Shine's play but the saddest part is that i'm a bisu fan as well.
oh well..
Shine hwaiting!! Still holding my breath for epic shine vs flash finals
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On November 27 2010 06:19 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 05:57 flamewheel wrote:On November 27 2010 05:48 TheNessman wrote:
Its just the EXACT SAME THING.
I can't believe bisu wouldn't try a little harder lolololol
Shine made ro4 last time, lets see what he can do this time lol Wait did he? I'm pretty sure it was Flash 3-1 Free and Jaedong 3-2 Stork. He's talking about EVER 2009
Yeah, it was 2 or 3 osl's ago. because it was movie > shine and then flash > movie. i remember that.
Shine causing such a controversy lol, i love it.
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Sweetness! Didn't see the games yet, but GOGO SHINE and WEMADE!
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On November 27 2010 02:12 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Ugh, the most hated player by all Protoss fans!
After he got lucky the 1st game, he decides to cheese in the 2nd...
Bisu was doing a dragoon all-in build as well. It just happened that hydras > goons so bisu got fucked.
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Milkis is completely right. If Shine is dumb, that makes Bisu even dumber for losing against him. I really wanted Bisu to win, but he didn't deserve it today.
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On November 27 2010 05:38 infinitestory wrote:
i actually counted here, and there are more people who support shine b/c bisu fan tears than support shine b/c shine is a good player. it's disgusting.
Sorry, but whenever someone says that someone else's reasons for cheering for someone are "disgusting," I just can't really take it seriously, lawl.
I dunno about you, but bathing in Bisu fanboy tears allows me to remain young for eternity.
...actually, I am pretty disappointed that Bisu lost. Shine will probably get owned by the next person he plays against, whereas Bisu is actually fun to watch.
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Maybe Stork'll now have a shot at revenge (Stork lost to Shine 2-1 in the ro8 in the very same OSL that Shine knocked out Bisu the first time).
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On November 27 2010 07:21 OpticalShot wrote:
Maybe Stork'll now have a shot at revenge (Stork lost to Shine 2-1 in the ro8 in the very same OSL that Shine knocked out Bisu the first time).
Or in a flashback to the EVER 2009 OSL, Stork meets Shine yet again in the Ro8 only to lose 2-1 and trigger more rage.
Wow...this OSL really does have that eerie deja vu feeling...
EDIT: Bleh apparently, Movie was already out. :[
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On November 27 2010 07:27 Apex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 07:21 OpticalShot wrote:
Maybe Stork'll now have a shot at revenge (Stork lost to Shine 2-1 in the ro8 in the very same OSL that Shine knocked out Bisu the first time). Or in a flashback to the EVER 2009 OSL, Stork meets Shine yet again in the Ro8 only to lose 2-1 and trigger more rage. Then, Movie comes back to beat Shine in the Ro4... Wow...this OSL really does have that eerie deja vu feeling...
Movie is already out
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Wow! Excellent job Shine! Gotta check out these VODs. That's unfortunate that Bisu doesn't advance though, what a shocker.
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On November 27 2010 07:50 Ikonn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 07:27 Apex wrote:On November 27 2010 07:21 OpticalShot wrote:
Maybe Stork'll now have a shot at revenge (Stork lost to Shine 2-1 in the ro8 in the very same OSL that Shine knocked out Bisu the first time). Or in a flashback to the EVER 2009 OSL, Stork meets Shine yet again in the Ro8 only to lose 2-1 and trigger more rage. Then, Movie comes back to beat Shine in the Ro4... Wow...this OSL really does have that eerie deja vu feeling... Movie is already out
Oh he is? Got too caught up in all the past EVER OSL 2009 stuff to realize that yes indeed Movie was out. Must have misread his name.
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Fucking bullshit! 2 more cannons in game 1 = bisu win. And a hydra all in in game 2... yeah totally worthy of OSL advancement.
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United States11390 Posts
On November 27 2010 09:50 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Fucking bullshit! 2 more cannons in game 1 = bisu win. And a hydra all in in game 2... yeah totally worthy of OSL advancement.
Bisu went 5 gate goon allin in game 2.
That's totally worthy of OSL advancement.
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On November 27 2010 09:50 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Fucking bullshit! 2 more cannons in game 1 = bisu win.
And 1 more cannon in game 5 = stork win over JD last OSL. It is what it is.
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On November 27 2010 09:50 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Fucking bullshit! 2 more cannons in game 1 = bisu win. And a hydra all in in game 2... yeah totally worthy of OSL advancement.
What do you know, protoss players are stupid and always lose in the dumbest ways. Game 1 Bisu lost after being like 40 supply ahead of Shine, that's like FBH losing to Flash on Medusa. That is just bad play no matter how you cut it.
Guess why terrans and zergs are always sending the protoss home in a body bag? Because the protoss players are just that weak compared to the best terrans and zergs.
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Bisu made too many mistakes. His PvZ is usually flawless. If he went his usual build with Sairs, it should be a bit obvious Shine would go Hydra. Why didn't he just go lot counter with a bit of goons? This happening here, I would think Bisu would think to not do something dumb in MSL...
Maybe he has a lapse of judgment? It isn't smart to really do this vs a player that knocked you out last year too. Had a bad day, should have expected Bisu to lose a series he should have won.
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Fuck you Shine. Fuck. Well played.nonetheless, gonna go cry now.
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Apparently reading through the comments the games must have been interesting :/
Going to wait for the VODs to come out in this weekend to watch, though there are so many Zerg in the OSL
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It's bisu's huge mistake to cost him the game, he SHOULD have won definitely in game1 , I don't know how you can lose even to a muta all in with 2 bases and 6 gates(2 of which @ the expansion were defended by cannons).
Second set... I dont know why he didnt just make cannons and try something else after somewhat defending the very first encounter, hydra ling >>>> goons, everyone knows that
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Bisutopia19240 Posts
Man, I have no words for this. Shine is not humble, he just knows he got lucky. I guess I should take Bisu off my Round2 fpl team now.
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Gotta love shine . He doesn't bother saving his main base with drones and lair and insted just attacks the cannons at Bisu's front in game 1 :D .
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I hated Shine for beating Stork in the OSL Ro8 a year ago. But then when he got into that everlasting tie-breaker with Go.Go and Effort, I grew to like him. So I'm devastated that Bisu lost, but not as much as some of the people here. Now if he beats Stork on the other hand...
Actually, the game that made me like Shine was one that he lost. Something about him getting outsmarted by Go.Go was so delicious that I felt bad for him. I mean "outsmarted" in the most literal sense, poor Shine.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36464_go.go_vs_Shine/vod
14:40 to see what happens when an anti-mech force meets M&M.
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On November 27 2010 03:26 sinistral wrote:And his scouting probe lasted the longest I ever seen in my short BW stream following.
Bisu probes are famous for lasting a good 5-7 minutes. His probe in game 1 was pretty amazing, even for Bisu standards. Gotta love the zealot distraction at the nat so the probe could get a kill in the main. XD
Bisu has been climbing his way back to top form, but paying attention to his proleague games showed that he wasn't there yet.
And then he played against kryptonite or something. He started off game 1 amazingly, but after he lost his corsairs he failed to compensate (I hear Archons aren't horrible against muta stacks). Seriously, he was wrecking Shine's base (killed the main entirely, if I recall) and some Mutas fly over and start killing probes. No biggie, he'll shut that down soon. *Five minutes later* "Dammit Bisu...."
Game 2 I think he was trying to be cute and all-in before Shine did, but Shine brought the pain faster. Something like preparing to beat 5 hatch hydra and 3 hatch got used instead or something like that.
Shine is kinda like Kwanro. Eventually you have to accept that it's just his style/he's playing to his strengths (aka, blows at late game). Currently if Shine hydra allins he gets called a cheesy fucker. If Kwanro 4 pools somebody (and doesn't fail), he just Kwanrolled them.
Or in a flashback to the EVER 2009 OSL, Stork meets Shine yet again in the Ro8 only to lose 2-1 and trigger more rage.
Wow...this OSL really does have that eerie deja vu feeling...
EDIT: Bleh apparently, Movie was already out. :[
In Afrotoss we trust!
Stork'll just go get another Silver. Protoss fans want a Gold, baby!
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Shine knows he's a scrub :D. But props to him nonetheless for 2-0ing the best Protoss player in the world.
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Bisu made some very questionable decisions in both games.
In the second game, I think he was getting overconfident with his goon micro, and just refused to build cannons. Then Shine just ling-raped bisu's goons...
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Bisu is simply cursed with the OSL... After I saw that he will be playing Shine I smelled an upset. Though I thought maybe Bisu will sneak into ro16 given his really good performance in PL.
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If Bisu wins the MSL all will be forgotten as he will set the all time MSL championships record. Savior lost in the OSL Prelims during his glory years, so Ro36 isn't that horrible.
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United States11390 Posts
According to the DES version, Shine practiced with Perfectman to crush Bisu too.
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On November 27 2010 13:16 Taekwon wrote:
Fuck you Shine. Fuck. Well played.nonetheless, gonna go cry now.
User was warned for this post
this is what I was going to post lol.
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On November 27 2010 14:54 dRaW wrote:
It's bisu's huge mistake to cost him the game, he SHOULD have won definitely in game1 , I don't know how you can lose even to a muta all in with 2 bases and 6 gates(2 of which @ the expansion were defended by cannons).
Second set... I dont know why he didnt just make cannons and try something else after somewhat defending the very first encounter, hydra ling >>>> goons, everyone knows that
that wasn't an all-in, that was "lets see what these mutas do since his sairs are dead" into kill every probe ever
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hydras, more hydras... !! ^^
I can relate to Shine so much lol, in the one season I played on Iccup I was D- 4-16 as Terran. Switched to Zerg and made it back to D and 1:1 win ratio with mass Hydras rofl.
As a tribute to Shine that day, I proceeded to do a 3 base Hatch before Lair -> Mass roach + some hydra (sc2 hydras blow tho ><) in some SC2 team game with my friend. He doesn't watch BW so he kept bitching that it was an awful play etc so he did some terrible 11 nexus build which was pretty hilarious. /rant (it's okay, we won, I was screaming EE HAN TIMING HYDRA and A moving to victory)
That said, shame to see Bisu out, many people have pointed out that he made pretty big mistakes in that series which cost him dearly, especially the one where he lost his Corsairs ><. I too wanted to see Bisu vs big names in the later rounds, but the day's loss was no one's fault but his.
I hope this spurs him on to do something in MSL. And props to Perfectman for practising with Shine.
Hoping for a good performance from Stork and Afrostyle for Protoss' sake!
Also, lots of mediocre Zergs this time round, is Pathfinder that bad? :/
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Shine is a terrible player, it is a disgrace to the OSL that players with so little to offer can get in Ro16
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fuck you bisu.. you made me hope... fuck you...
+ Show Spoiler +.... on second thought OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG I STILL LOVE YOU!!!!!
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Shine just just riding Bisu's spotlight. He can beat Bisu for the rest of his life but his still won't come close to standing next to Sexysu
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