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Fantasy Proleague R2 10-11 Discussion - Page 4

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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 20 2010 07:59 GMT
#61
Oh wow, I had this huge cost effectiveness and equity analysis written up in some PM's i sent out to friends aobut the merit of picking players, the no 1 point bonus for team winning kills that a TON, considering its how FPL hsa been set up for years im actually really surprised to see that changed just like that. The team performance really, when it came down to it, was everything.

+ Show Spoiler [my original team and equity writeup] +

Team:
wemadeFOX - 3
Stats - 4 Captain
s2 - 2
Best - 6
Bisu - 8
Kwanro - 3
Light - 4

Stats, Wins about 80% of his games, plays ace, had 20% chance to have KT get to ace and he win there, so equity gives about .8+1.2 (or 2) if he wins for 4 points, .8 if his team loses. Assuming his team wins 75% of games, that is a 1.7 point equity for 4 points cost.

S2, doesn't win much, maybe .3 equity for his game, but his team wins 95% of the time, so 1.25 equity for 2 points.

Best, plays a lot and wins, 60% of the time. .6 plus .95 is 1.55 equity for 6 points, will win an ace maybe 3-5% of games, negligible amount but rounds him up to 1.6 equity for 6 points

Kwanro, SK's best zerg, .5% chance to win, 1.45 equity for 3 points

Light, best value pick I saw, very surprised to see him there tbh. wins .6% of time, team wins maybe 60%, he splits ace time wiht Sea. Basically, really fucking high quity for 4 points

All that counteracts the fact i picked FOX, probalby a top 3-5 team, deifnitely worth 3 points instead of dropping 4 extra points for SK to have 30% better chance of winning given the players i have.

Ok enough ranting to you <3 I jus tthought you'd listen better than omst, and I'm proud of my picks.

PS: Editting this in just for you since you listeend more than anyone eles lol

Anti team picks are:
Killer - 4
Jaedong - 8
Cloud (2006 progamer on Ace who never gets playing time onw) - 1

Jaedong has the lowest equity per value, and no other 4-5+ point player can offer lower value due to the teams they play on guaranteeing them .4-.6 equity, meanwhile Jaedong offers much much less, all for 8 points, even though he will play in ace matches, whihc cna hurt, this is a great value pick either way

Killer is fucking terrible, plays a lot but is bad and wont win much on a team that wont win much. Also great value pick

Cloud, from airforce ace, was the worst bottom of the A-teamer on Ace, and I can't put ALL my eggs in one basket and risk -3 points every time oz wins, so this is a nice way to split the eggs up.



Now I will have to redraw everything up, going to save that roster so that, in the small small event that hwe are given 1 point for team wins, I can change my team back.

brb~
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
November 20 2010 09:03 GMT
#62
Wow, I just noticed that the guy several posts above my team put Bisu on anti. It take some balls to put the 10-0 guy in your anti-team, respect~
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
November 20 2010 09:16 GMT
#63
Lol Horang2 costs more than 5 players in my main team :D Bisu + SK Telekom costs a lot.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
November 20 2010 09:36 GMT
#64
Wait, I thought an appearance gives the player 1 point, so if he loses, you break even.

Did this get changed? I couldn't find that bit of information in the OP.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
November 20 2010 09:40 GMT
#65
On November 20 2010 18:36 Z3kk wrote:
Wait, I thought an appearance gives the player 1 point, so if he loses, you break even.

Did this get changed? I couldn't find that bit of information in the OP.


Yes this did get changed,its been discussed in the previous page.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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EffectS
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium795 Posts
November 20 2010 10:25 GMT
#66
Btw, is this only gonna be text based without an interface such as the previous seasons? I don't know about last season how stuff went down then, wasn't too much on TL at the time.
TEEHEE
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
November 20 2010 10:26 GMT
#67
Sorry if this has been already asked, I couldn't find. When is the deadline for the signups?
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 10:44:42
November 20 2010 10:41 GMT
#68
On November 20 2010 19:25 EffectS wrote:
Btw, is this only gonna be text based without an interface such as the previous seasons? I don't know about last season how stuff went down then, wasn't too much on TL at the time.


Because of how the system has changed for this season...The interface is going through some major changes,we will be text based for this round and using the TL interface from next round.

On November 20 2010 19:26 Taosu wrote:
Sorry if this has been already asked, I couldn't find. When is the deadline for the signups?


Saturday, 26th of November.

Exact time,I don't know,but I assume its 1200hrs KST.

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 20 2010 10:59 GMT
#69
integral do you need us to shoot you a PM if we decide to edit our team before the deadline?
EffectS
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium795 Posts
November 20 2010 11:16 GMT
#70
Worst possible anti-team without going out of the boundries of the sane according to me:

- (T)TurN
- (P)PerfectMan
- (P)Snow

These guys are going to da top!
TEEHEE
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 12:09:11
November 20 2010 12:06 GMT
#71
On November 20 2010 19:59 ShadeR wrote:
integral do you need us to shoot you a PM if we decide to edit our team before the deadline?


no,you do not need to....You are free to edit as much as you can until the deadline.

On November 20 2010 07:23 integral wrote:
[*]You may edit your team as often as you like until the start of round 2.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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~GhoSt
Profile Joined October 2010
145 Posts
November 20 2010 12:11 GMT
#72
I got Leta, Sea, and Bogus on my anti-team. Bold moves, but something tells me this round does not bode well for them.
BISU HWAITING!!
EffectS
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium795 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 13:16:05
November 20 2010 12:36 GMT
#73
On November 20 2010 21:11 ~GhoSt wrote:
I got Leta, Sea, and Bogus on my anti-team. Bold moves, but something tells me this round does not bode well for them.


Bogus is a piece of sh**********t. But Leta & Sea, hmm.. think they'll do good. Atleast get mediocre amount of points.

Good luck to you for that

User was warned for this post
Sorry for calling Bogus a piece of sh*t, I was joking about this, honestly.
TEEHEE
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 20 2010 12:40 GMT
#74
On November 20 2010 21:11 ~GhoSt wrote:
I got Leta, Sea, and Bogus on my anti-team. Bold moves, but something tells me this round does not bode well for them.


Doesn't make sense. No matter his form Sea will always bring in points from ace match appearances.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
juuust
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland43 Posts
November 20 2010 13:04 GMT
#75
Time to show (Z)RorO pwns in Anti-Team at last!
No?
Oh well...
*Cheeki Breeki*
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 20 2010 14:31 GMT
#76
On November 20 2010 16:59 ZlaSHeR wrote:
...the no 1 point bonus for team winning kills that a TON, considering its how FPL hsa been set up for years im actually really surprised to see that changed just like that...


Yah well before we haven't been running FPL off some dude's spreadsheet, either.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 14:48:02
November 20 2010 14:46 GMT
#77
I feel that I am taking a lot of risk by putting Horang2 on my anti. This guy has the magical ability of constantly running into tosses and win his only legitimately good matchup.

Jaehoon and Perfectman, thank you for your miraculous performances in R1, now you can go back to your slump dog style.

Btw, best of luck to those who put Roro on their anti-team. You will need them.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
November 20 2010 15:30 GMT
#78
Thanks so much for doing this Integral. It's a really big effort on your part that is very much appreciated.

I like that you've dropped team wins and lineup appearances as stats, both in terms of simplifying the scoring, and in better valuing the strength of players. I also love that an anti-team can now score you points again. Before you would just hope that players on your anti-team wouldn't play, and although that's still mostly the case, i'll be rooting for my anti-team to make appearances vs the likes of Telecom and Woongjin

Great Job!
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
November 20 2010 15:45 GMT
#79
i have Jaehoon and Perfectman in my anti. I think their lucky streak has ended.

and i put Roro because i felt defiant...
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
November 20 2010 16:15 GMT
#80
AFAIK there has been at least 2 guys who put Flash in their antis. Good luck staying alive!
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