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ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
November 20 2010 16:20 GMT
#81
On November 20 2010 23:46 dukethegold wrote:
I feel that I am taking a lot of risk by putting Horang2 on my anti. This guy has the magical ability of constantly running into tosses and win his only legitimately good matchup.

Jaehoon and Perfectman, thank you for your miraculous performances in R1, now you can go back to your slump dog style..


lol I have exactly the same anti. But I'm scared of Horang2 myself. Mainly because he's ALWAYS sent on Central Plains o.O
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integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
November 20 2010 16:30 GMT
#82
On November 21 2010 00:30 Radfield wrote:
Thanks so much for doing this Integral. It's a really big effort on your part that is very much appreciated.

I like that you've dropped team wins and lineup appearances as stats, both in terms of simplifying the scoring, and in better valuing the strength of players. I also love that an anti-team can now score you points again. Before you would just hope that players on your anti-team wouldn't play, and although that's still mostly the case, i'll be rooting for my anti-team to make appearances vs the likes of Telecom and Woongjin

Great Job!


Thanks! Honestly I like the new scoring even better than the old scoring, for the reasons you mention. It wasn't just that it was easier -- if I truly thought it were a better way to score I would just add a column for lineup appearances and team wins. I also like the anti-team being able to score you points.


No one has complained about lineup appearances yet, but just in case someone isn't sure about that change: before the match-fixing scandal lineup appearances were originally posted beforehand and used to be a major part of the strategy for FPL in terms of trading. In the current format lineup appearances are no longer posted beforehand and I think it's appropriate to drop them altogether from impacting scoring. Lineup appearances are now valuable because a player has the opportunity to win a game.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
November 20 2010 16:53 GMT
#83
Is the prize for winning the same?(i.e T-Shirt and shiny icon)
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integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
November 20 2010 16:58 GMT
#84
You'll have to take that up with one of the TL staff, but I would like to think so!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
November 20 2010 17:29 GMT
#85
this is why my captain is flash and not jaedong
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pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
November 20 2010 18:25 GMT
#86
With kt costing 3 points a lot of people are putting them as their team.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
November 20 2010 19:11 GMT
#87
Bisu Bonjwa (my team a.k.a. B-B) is gonna do so well!!! :D
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Renkaoru
Profile Joined October 2010
390 Posts
November 20 2010 19:42 GMT
#88
First time in FPL, so excited. Thanks integral your efforts are much appreciated. ^^

Now Samsung Khan only needs to go and win 10-11 Proleague!
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 20:16:38
November 20 2010 19:50 GMT
#89
If I don't end up in the low 20%, I'll be happy with my first FPL run. HorriBadJinx fighting!
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
November 20 2010 22:05 GMT
#90
On November 21 2010 01:20 ndralcasid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 23:46 dukethegold wrote:
I feel that I am taking a lot of risk by putting Horang2 on my anti. This guy has the magical ability of constantly running into tosses and win his only legitimately good matchup.

Jaehoon and Perfectman, thank you for your miraculous performances in R1, now you can go back to your slump dog style..


lol I have exactly the same anti. But I'm scared of Horang2 myself. Mainly because he's ALWAYS sent on Central Plains o.O


horang2 is also 100% in central plains
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 23:01:20
November 20 2010 22:52 GMT
#91
Hmm... Am I the only one to put Flash on my anti?
He's such a steal at 9 points...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 21 2010 00:29 GMT
#92
I think a legitimate reason to put Jaedong (to a lesser extent, Flash) on anti is:
Jaedong may be his team's ace and a guaranteed win, but his team doesn't get to ace very often at all. If you put Jaedong on your anti, you have 5 points left that can be used on scrubs that are pretty much guaranteed to lose but still play (e.g. PianO, Saint). Putting Jaedong on anti also means you don't need any of the other 5+ point players, all of whom have can an outstanding round and wreck your team.

I didn't, though. I'm banking on baby sucking. But I'm considering using Jaedong/PianO/Saint
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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
November 21 2010 00:35 GMT
#93
Yes! FPL is back! I got KT Rolster for my team because I really don't see their slump continuing. I was gonna get Bisu at first, but then I decided not to cuz i think he's gonna start losing
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
November 21 2010 00:52 GMT
#94
Was a hard choice between Bisu and Jaedong, but then I remembered how p imba the maps were.

And REACH HAD BETTER START PLAYING THIS ROUND.
Piege
Profile Joined October 2009
United Kingdom128 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 01:22:43
November 21 2010 01:21 GMT
#95
Should be good.
Never_V_ -> Fin
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
November 21 2010 01:26 GMT
#96
On November 21 2010 07:05 Jackal03 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 01:20 ndralcasid wrote:
On November 20 2010 23:46 dukethegold wrote:
I feel that I am taking a lot of risk by putting Horang2 on my anti. This guy has the magical ability of constantly running into tosses and win his only legitimately good matchup.

Jaehoon and Perfectman, thank you for your miraculous performances in R1, now you can go back to your slump dog style..


lol I have exactly the same anti. But I'm scared of Horang2 myself. Mainly because he's ALWAYS sent on Central Plains o.O


horang2 is also 100% in central plains


Excellent point, Central Plains has 27 PvP on it. Horang2 has managed to defeat Shuttle on that map. The only tosses that may have better or equal PvP skill to Shuttle is Bisu/Best/Stork/Free.

I hope other coaches grow smarter and send a non-Protoss to Central Plains...just to snipe Horang2.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 01:40:24
November 21 2010 01:38 GMT
#97
On November 21 2010 09:29 infinitestory wrote:
I think a legitimate reason to put Jaedong (to a lesser extent, Flash) on anti is:
Jaedong may be his team's ace and a guaranteed win, but his team doesn't get to ace very often at all. If you put Jaedong on your anti, you have 5 points left that can be used on scrubs that are pretty much guaranteed to lose but still play (e.g. PianO, Saint). Putting Jaedong on anti also means you don't need any of the other 5+ point players, all of whom have can an outstanding round and wreck your team.

I didn't, though. I'm banking on baby sucking. But I'm considering using Jaedong/PianO/Saint


Well, I bet for the Flash option where there's no guesswork. Flash is bound to score points while 2 other AT choices probably won't get fielded at all and thus should stay at 0.

Edit: Oh wait, they re-introduced minus points for losing... Not sure if it would be worth to change it though, there's just -1 point for losing and +4 for winning, that's a bit too much to be betting on...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
November 21 2010 02:14 GMT
#98
On November 21 2010 09:29 infinitestory wrote:
I think a legitimate reason to put Jaedong (to a lesser extent, Flash) on anti is:
Jaedong may be his team's ace and a guaranteed win, but his team doesn't get to ace very often at all. If you put Jaedong on your anti, you have 5 points left that can be used on scrubs that are pretty much guaranteed to lose but still play (e.g. PianO, Saint). Putting Jaedong on anti also means you don't need any of the other 5+ point players, all of whom have can an outstanding round and wreck your team.

I didn't, though. I'm banking on baby sucking. But I'm considering using Jaedong/PianO/Saint



i did this strat once (good guy+ 2 scrubs) and i it went very very bad...

its a high risk, if Oz "non-JD" players start winning again, JD will be able to play and win some aces. And (P)Anytime is back to oz and will probably play this round, i doubt oz will be in the last position (losing all of their games).
BW is back
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
November 21 2010 02:33 GMT
#99
The best team I've ever witnessed so far:

On November 21 2010 09:35 Kontossis wrote:
Team: The Best Anti-Team

Main Team
(Z)HoeJJa 1
(P)Tempest 1
(P)Sky 1
(T)Lomo 1
(T)Suny 1
(Z)rOo 1

Hwaseung OZ 1

Anti-team:
(T)Flash 9
(P)Bisu 8
(Z)Jaedong 8

#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
November 21 2010 02:36 GMT
#100
On November 21 2010 01:15 alypse wrote:
AFAIK there has been at least 2 guys who put Flash in their antis. Good luck staying alive!


Dude I even saw Bisu on someone's anti team. What's Flash?
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
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