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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 21 2010 18:59 GMT
#121
On November 22 2010 03:31 night terrors wrote:
I need a three pointer zerg to fulfill race requirements and the two picks I find reasonable are Kwanro and Calm, cant decide on who fails less.

Just a FYI, Roro has only lost his PL games to: Flash, Jaedong and Reality.

Kwanro and Calm are actually both good, so you should be thinking "who's better" rather than "who fails less." I chose Calm because 1) he's more likely to be sent out and 2) he's better all-around?
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 19:22:20
November 21 2010 19:21 GMT
#122
On November 22 2010 03:59 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 03:31 night terrors wrote:
I need a three pointer zerg to fulfill race requirements and the two picks I find reasonable are Kwanro and Calm, cant decide on who fails less.

Just a FYI, Roro has only lost his PL games to: Flash, Jaedong and Reality.

Kwanro and Calm are actually both good, so you should be thinking "who's better" rather than "who fails less." I chose Calm because 1) he's more likely to be sent out and 2) he's better all-around?

I'd say Calm for 3 is a real steal. He's improving, and he has good potential to beat even the best players, a lot more so than 5 pointers like Really, for instance.

EDIT: + Show Spoiler +
Why yes, I am a fanboy.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 21 2010 19:36 GMT
#123
On November 22 2010 04:21 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 03:59 infinitestory wrote:
On November 22 2010 03:31 night terrors wrote:
I need a three pointer zerg to fulfill race requirements and the two picks I find reasonable are Kwanro and Calm, cant decide on who fails less.

Just a FYI, Roro has only lost his PL games to: Flash, Jaedong and Reality.

Kwanro and Calm are actually both good, so you should be thinking "who's better" rather than "who fails less." I chose Calm because 1) he's more likely to be sent out and 2) he's better all-around?

I'd say Calm for 3 is a real steal. He's improving, and he has good potential to beat even the best players, a lot more so than 5 pointers like Really, for instance.

EDIT: + Show Spoiler +
Why yes, I am a fanboy.

Clam is honestly not that good because of his inner mollusk, but at 3 points he is definitely a decent choice.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
November 21 2010 19:58 GMT
#124
Sorry if this question has been answered elsewhere, I didn't see it :X

Why is FPL not using the old signup like it always has before?
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 20:09:18
November 21 2010 20:09 GMT
#125
On November 22 2010 04:58 Armathai wrote:
Sorry if this question has been answered elsewhere, I didn't see it :X

Why is FPL not using the old signup like it always has before?

The TL coders haven't been available to change the original FPL system to fit the new Bo7 format.
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tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 20:44:28
November 21 2010 20:25 GMT
#126
Wupsie. At least no anti-team roro.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 21 2010 21:36 GMT
#127


On November 22 2010 03:51 Lightwip wrote:
I put Really, Jaehoon, and Hydra for anti.
Really is 80-90% of the time not at all a good player. Hydra is pretty meh too, although sometimes people play really bad against him somehow. And at 4 points, Jaehoon is a steal.

PvX enigmas aside, Jaehoon's been on a roll recently. Since he is one of the players that will always be played by MBC, this might end badly.

I dunno though, it's hard to say. Traditionally he's been a horrible player, but maybe he's finally starting to pull his act together. Heck, he's even set a new ELO peak for himself, though this might reflect more on just how bad of a player he was in the past <_<.
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night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
November 21 2010 21:45 GMT
#128
On November 22 2010 06:36 Spazer wrote:


Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 03:51 Lightwip wrote:
I put Really, Jaehoon, and Hydra for anti.
Really is 80-90% of the time not at all a good player. Hydra is pretty meh too, although sometimes people play really bad against him somehow. And at 4 points, Jaehoon is a steal.

PvX enigmas aside, Jaehoon's been on a roll recently. Since he is one of the players that will always be played by MBC, this might end badly.

I dunno though, it's hard to say. Traditionally he's been a horrible player, but maybe he's finally starting to pull his act together. Heck, he's even set a new ELO peak for himself, though this might reflect more on just how bad of a player he was in the past <_<.


And Really has played all games Stars have. Won most too. That will end up badly.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 21 2010 22:35 GMT
#129
There are many better 3/4 point bets than Clam, honestly if you're betting on a guy who was great 10-20 months ago but has been hardcore SLUMPING (ie. losign double digit games in a row) thats a HUGE gamble that probalby wont pay off, especially if you're picking 2-3-4 guys like that.
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night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
November 21 2010 22:40 GMT
#130
Sure, but not a better 3 pointer zerg.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Moderas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States78 Posts
November 21 2010 22:59 GMT
#131
Uh oh... when signing up I must admit I was a little ignorant on the current standings of the pro league as I dont watch it a lot. Because of this, I decided to put Bisu on my anti-team because I had always heard "Oh he was good, and then he had a slump..." and I assumed that was present day lol. Thats what I get for basing my team off names I recognize and TL posts :O
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17246 Posts
November 21 2010 23:18 GMT
#132
You can edit your team until the next round starts.
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Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
November 21 2010 23:34 GMT
#133
On November 22 2010 03:51 Lightwip wrote:
I put Really, Jaehoon, and Hydra for anti.
Really is 80-90% of the time not at all a good player. Hydra is pretty meh too, although sometimes people play really bad against him somehow. And at 4 points, Jaehoon is a steal.



I'm wondering how you quantify not a good player 80-90% of the time when Really is 6-3 in proleague, and advances in his MSL group. All 3 of those players are basically gauranteed lineup appearances in the majority of matches each round, and have had positive records thus far in PL. Hell Hydra even won an ace match over free :/. I think that's a pretty sketchy anti-team.
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 23:50:42
November 21 2010 23:49 GMT
#134
I think since all the 5+ point people have a legitimate shot at putting up a ridiculous round, we have to pick the players who will get the least appearances for anti. I thought about this, and I my current 5 point anti horang2, since his team's lineup is deep and he's really only viable on Central Plains mainly. For that latter part, not only will the match not necessarily get to a Central Plains game (i think), he might get sniped because it's so obvious he'll be sent there.

On November 22 2010 07:35 ZlaSHeR wrote:
There are many better 3/4 point bets than Clam, honestly if you're betting on a guy who was great 10-20 months ago but has been hardcore SLUMPING (ie. losign double digit games in a row) thats a HUGE gamble that probalby wont pay off, especially if you're picking 2-3-4 guys like that.

Name a better 3 point choice than Calm.
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night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
November 22 2010 00:05 GMT
#135
In adittion, FPL also rests on the considerations of potential. Players are not only picked based on their recent performance, they are also chosen on the basis of how good can they play. Some of the 4/5+ pointers seem, at least to me, to be closer to their skill ceiling that other 5, 4 and 3 pointers.

Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 22 2010 01:14 GMT
#136
On November 22 2010 08:49 infinitestory wrote:
I think since all the 5+ point people have a legitimate shot at putting up a ridiculous round, we have to pick the players who will get the least appearances for anti. I thought about this, and I my current 5 point anti horang2, since his team's lineup is deep and he's really only viable on Central Plains mainly. For that latter part, not only will the match not necessarily get to a Central Plains game (i think), he might get sniped because it's so obvious he'll be sent there.

Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 07:35 ZlaSHeR wrote:
There are many better 3/4 point bets than Clam, honestly if you're betting on a guy who was great 10-20 months ago but has been hardcore SLUMPING (ie. losign double digit games in a row) thats a HUGE gamble that probalby wont pay off, especially if you're picking 2-3-4 guys like that.

Name a better 3 point choice than Calm.


My current plan is to go with a six or seven-pointer, take the losses (and of course hope I get lucky guessing a slump) and pull either 3-pointers or a bad 4-pointer/2-pointer combo. But I really don't know.
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rsol
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia117 Posts
November 22 2010 01:20 GMT
#137
Am I alone in thinking fantasy is a real bargain at 6 points??
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
November 22 2010 01:27 GMT
#138
I have an exciting announcement: There WILL be trading this round!

More details to come -- I will post another thread detailing how trades will work, and that thread will be where you will post the trades you wish to make after each week. I can say that it will work very similarly to the way you are familiar. A big thanks to pschiu for the great idea for how to easily implement trades!
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 22 2010 01:31 GMT
#139
so captain = untradeable now (confirming this)?
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integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
November 22 2010 01:32 GMT
#140
On November 22 2010 10:31 infinitestory wrote:
so captain = untradeable now (confirming this)?

yes, I'll go ahead and make the relevant edits.
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