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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 02:16:28
November 22 2010 02:16 GMT
#141
On November 22 2010 10:27 integral wrote:
I have an exciting announcement: There WILL be trading this round!

More details to come -- I will post another thread detailing how trades will work, and that thread will be where you will post the trades you wish to make after each week. I can say that it will work very similarly to the way you are familiar. A big thanks to pschiu for the great idea for how to easily implement trades!

Please post details soon...knowing precisely how trading works could have a big impact on how the initial fantasy team members are picked.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 22 2010 02:31 GMT
#142
I'm trying to make a decision.

Jaedong + OZ, or one of free/Soulkey (and which one) + WeMade?
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 22 2010 02:35 GMT
#143
On November 22 2010 11:31 Musoeun wrote:
I'm trying to make a decision.

Jaedong + OZ, or one of free/Soulkey (and which one) + WeMade?

If Oz can win 1-2 games once in a while, Jaedong/Oz for sure because in the ace there can be none other than Jaedong.
Otherwise, free+WMF.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 22 2010 02:37 GMT
#144
On November 22 2010 11:35 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 11:31 Musoeun wrote:
I'm trying to make a decision.

Jaedong + OZ, or one of free/Soulkey (and which one) + WeMade?

If Oz can win 1-2 games once in a while, Jaedong/Oz for sure because in the ace there can be none other than Jaedong.
Otherwise, free+WMF.

This is actually wrong, I think. Oz will lose you so many points compared to WeMade that the extra wins Jaedong gets over free/Soulkey are more than negated.
Translator:3
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 22 2010 02:40 GMT
#145
On November 22 2010 11:37 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 11:35 Lightwip wrote:
On November 22 2010 11:31 Musoeun wrote:
I'm trying to make a decision.

Jaedong + OZ, or one of free/Soulkey (and which one) + WeMade?

If Oz can win 1-2 games once in a while, Jaedong/Oz for sure because in the ace there can be none other than Jaedong.
Otherwise, free+WMF.

This is actually wrong, I think. Oz will lose you so many points compared to WeMade that the extra wins Jaedong gets over free/Soulkey are more than negated.

In giving this suggestion, I'm assuming WMF won't do to well. In reality I'm not sure how they will do.
In other news, I decided to put Jangbi on my team as a show of faith, because no one can be horrible forever. If only I had space for Stork, but Bisu/Jaedong/SKT are all point eaters.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 22 2010 02:55 GMT
#146
On November 22 2010 11:40 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 11:37 infinitestory wrote:
On November 22 2010 11:35 Lightwip wrote:
On November 22 2010 11:31 Musoeun wrote:
I'm trying to make a decision.

Jaedong + OZ, or one of free/Soulkey (and which one) + WeMade?

If Oz can win 1-2 games once in a while, Jaedong/Oz for sure because in the ace there can be none other than Jaedong.
Otherwise, free+WMF.

This is actually wrong, I think. Oz will lose you so many points compared to WeMade that the extra wins Jaedong gets over free/Soulkey are more than negated.

In giving this suggestion, I'm assuming WMF won't do to well. In reality I'm not sure how they will do.
In other news, I decided to put Jangbi on my team as a show of faith, because no one can be horrible forever. If only I had space for Stork, but Bisu/Jaedong/SKT are all point eaters.


By my count, last round's scores would have bee:

WeMade: 17 points
OZ: 5

But Jaedong plays every game and is ace, so he would have posted 39 points to free/Soulkey's 27 - exactly offsetting.

What I'm thinking now is that OZ is likely to improve (if anything), while WeMade and the players in question I think will stay fairly stable. On the other hand, if OZ doesn't improve and hits bad luck, they'll go badly negative. So the question is how much to gamble.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 02:59:36
November 22 2010 02:57 GMT
#147
On November 22 2010 11:40 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 11:37 infinitestory wrote:
On November 22 2010 11:35 Lightwip wrote:
On November 22 2010 11:31 Musoeun wrote:
I'm trying to make a decision.

Jaedong + OZ, or one of free/Soulkey (and which one) + WeMade?

If Oz can win 1-2 games once in a while, Jaedong/Oz for sure because in the ace there can be none other than Jaedong.
Otherwise, free+WMF.

This is actually wrong, I think. Oz will lose you so many points compared to WeMade that the extra wins Jaedong gets over free/Soulkey are more than negated.

In giving this suggestion, I'm assuming WMF won't do to well. In reality I'm not sure how they will do.
In other news, I decided to put Jangbi on my team as a show of faith, because no one can be horrible forever. If only I had space for Stork, but Bisu/Jaedong/SKT are all point eaters.

Oz would have gotten +5 in R1, while WeMade would have gotten +16. Jaedong got 2 more wins than free, so free + WeMade would have been better than Jaedong + Oz. I'm surprised at how close it is, though.
Jaedong would have been +33 last round while free was +25

EDIT: ninja'd
Translator:3
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 22 2010 04:03 GMT
#148
On November 22 2010 11:55 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 11:40 Lightwip wrote:
On November 22 2010 11:37 infinitestory wrote:
On November 22 2010 11:35 Lightwip wrote:
On November 22 2010 11:31 Musoeun wrote:
I'm trying to make a decision.

Jaedong + OZ, or one of free/Soulkey (and which one) + WeMade?

If Oz can win 1-2 games once in a while, Jaedong/Oz for sure because in the ace there can be none other than Jaedong.
Otherwise, free+WMF.

This is actually wrong, I think. Oz will lose you so many points compared to WeMade that the extra wins Jaedong gets over free/Soulkey are more than negated.

In giving this suggestion, I'm assuming WMF won't do to well. In reality I'm not sure how they will do.
In other news, I decided to put Jangbi on my team as a show of faith, because no one can be horrible forever. If only I had space for Stork, but Bisu/Jaedong/SKT are all point eaters.


By my count, last round's scores would have bee:

WeMade: 17 points
OZ: 5

But Jaedong plays every game and is ace, so he would have posted 39 points to free/Soulkey's 27 - exactly offsetting.

What I'm thinking now is that OZ is likely to improve (if anything), while WeMade and the players in question I think will stay fairly stable. On the other hand, if OZ doesn't improve and hits bad luck, they'll go badly negative. So the question is how much to gamble.

It's really your choice. Is free/Soulkey more likely to play ace games(he's not a favorite to win against any of Kal, Bisu, Jaedong, Stork, Fantasy, or Flash), or is Oz more likely to win a few games? Jaedong will outperform any Stars ace with ease, especially if his team does well.
The other factor is rainbow socks, but WMF is so unpredictable these days. But I'd go with Oz just because Jaedong will always bring in points no matter what, and no one else is expected to do the same.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
November 22 2010 04:29 GMT
#149
On November 22 2010 13:03 Lightwip wrote:
Jaedong will always bring in points no matter what, and no one else is expected to do the same.


Excuse me? There was but one player with 10-0 record in R1, and it wasn't JD...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 04:55:04
November 22 2010 04:54 GMT
#150
On November 22 2010 13:29 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 13:03 Lightwip wrote:
Jaedong will always bring in points no matter what, and no one else is expected to do the same.


Excuse me? There was but one player with 10-0 record in R1, and it wasn't JD...

Yeah, Bisu is my favorite by far. But Jaedong is the most consistent player of all(doesn't slump), and I was mostly comparing him to the other 2 choices.
And Jaedong is going to do a hell of a lot better than SK/free at any rate. Who you choose really depends on who you like more(I chose both), they'll both win 50 games this season unless something stupid happens. Also, SKT is probably just as likely to win before the ace as OZ is to not get to the ace, and there's a fair chance that Fantasy will be ace rather than Bisu, but for Oz it can be none other than JD.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
November 22 2010 06:40 GMT
#151
Well, they used to send Killer into ace too, and now Hiya seems to be getting out of his slump so he also might be a valid choice for them.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 22 2010 06:51 GMT
#152
I hope they realized that they probably would've made playoffs if Killer didn't play all those aces, and Hiya can only play ace in special cases.
It's either mediocre A class players or the one S class on Oz. An easy choice in my opinion.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
rsol
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia117 Posts
November 22 2010 06:58 GMT
#153
Meanwhile for a measly 1 point more Flash continues to crush _excellent_ players, is on a (at least theoretically) deeper team than Oz and is a guaranteed ace unlike Bisu.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 22 2010 06:59 GMT
#154
On November 22 2010 15:58 rsol wrote:
Meanwhile for a measly 1 point more Flash continues to crush _excellent_ players, is on a (at least theoretically) deeper team than Oz and is a guaranteed ace unlike Bisu.

bwahahahaha

so wait how long is Flash's ace game losing streak now?
Translator:3
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 22 2010 07:00 GMT
#155
On November 22 2010 15:58 rsol wrote:
Meanwhile for a measly 1 point more Flash continues to crush _excellent_ players, is on a (at least theoretically) deeper team than Oz and is a guaranteed ace unlike Bisu.

Ace match curse has yet to be broken though.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
rsol
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia117 Posts
November 22 2010 07:05 GMT
#156
well THEORETICALLY i mean it's like HYPOTHETICALLY
ci_esteban
Profile Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
November 22 2010 07:34 GMT
#157
Haha I love how the fantasy PL discussion just deteriorates into a rabid fanboy discussion about whether Flash, Bisu, or Jaedong are the best and how they should be on every single team.

The best part about fantasy leagues is someone who was on fire can turn to shit when you need them most and someone who's been ice cold, let's say Jangbi, can turn it on and go on a huge win streak out of the blue. I just pick players / teams I already root for so I'm extra happy when they win. =)
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
November 22 2010 08:11 GMT
#158
I've always went with my heart when making choices for my FPL team. That's why I have Flash on anti and my main team consists of people who kick major ass.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 08:14:55
November 22 2010 08:13 GMT
#159
On November 22 2010 15:51 Lightwip wrote:
I hope they realized that they probably would've made playoffs if Killer didn't play all those aces, and Hiya can only play ace in special cases.
It's either mediocre A class players or the one S class on Oz. An easy choice in my opinion.

Less team captain duties for JD means more time for nerd-stomping. The rest of Oz actually showed some signs of life in Round 1 too, which is refreshing.

I almost put ForGG on my anti-team because I'm not a fan of his, but then I realized I could not be a retard and pick someone who isn't practically guaranteed to be fielded every match or at least has a worse record.

I should probably sub Ssak for Reach because Reach is manly. Ssak has a chance of playing a few games, which is a chance to lose a few games. Just gotta have faith in SKT players, I guess. Go go gadget fanboyism!
PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 10:17:25
November 22 2010 10:06 GMT
#160
Great job integral! Point costs seem to be very well assigned compared to previous seasons. Other than maybe Horang2 for anti, I don't think any player's too good or bad a pick by value. You truly do have great understanding in esports science.

On November 22 2010 16:34 ci_esteban wrote:
I just pick players / teams I already root for so I'm extra happy when they win. =)

Hahah, I'm the opposite. I put players I like on anti and players I dislike on main, so when they play, I win no matter what. The all-or-nothing approach leaves me way too moody when things go wrong :p
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