Serious Balance Changes Suggestions Topic - Page 3

On July 07 2004 17:39 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:
Tfeign you are a moron. Seriously. You're reasons for wanting balance changes are completely selfish and unreasonable, not only that you try to insult the community because we can't give you replays, when you want to change the game because YOU are tired of seeing the ' same strats used over and over '

If you want to do something new, play a new game. If you want unit choice like you described, basically go play war 2. All that's different are abilities. You're suggesting every unit, awesome or not be balanced to a point where only the ability affects your choice of using it or not. You prove this yourself by listing new mana costs.

The reason there are few replays with those plays you want to see is because those plays have very little room to develop as the mainstream strats have been developed over a LONG period of time and 3-5 of them are enough to counter most anything.

I suggest that you yourself use them, instead of trying to start some kind of revolution you thought you could by starting this thread. Make a UMS map with your changes and get people to play it with you. I doubt it will go any further IF that.

On July 07 2004 17:44 tfeign wrote:



Abyss_Bahamut = ignorant fool


Also, Arg.Iceman, dropping infested terrans behind mineral lines is about effective as dropping lurkers behind mineral lines. Although lurkers can attack from a distance, above on a cliff, doesn't die unless the opponent actually kills it, and doesn't require you to steal a cc before using one. I really like to see infested terrans being useful, ALOT more useful, as I have seen terran comman centers being stolen before in many games, but then no one would make infested terran since they die way too fast before they can do any damage to justify the cost.

On July 07 2004 18:12 tfeign wrote:
Abyss_Bahamut the reason why I didn't say anything about your argument is because what you said is just so completely newbishness and stupid that I don't even bother. For example:

"The reason there are few replays with those plays you want to see is because those plays have very little room to develop as the mainstream strats have been developed over a LONG period of time and 3-5 of them are enough to counter most anything."

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ignorance. Any strats that are useful will become mainstream in no time. I wont even bother with the rest rofl

On July 07 2004 18:28 RuGbUg wrote:
Dark archons are definitely VERY powerful pvz. try out researching maelstrom instead of storm the next time you pvz, and move out with a darkarchon. you'll be surprised how well it counters muta as well as hydra. after all, you can dodge storm, you can't dodge maelstrom...

Also, you have to realize there WILL BE GAMES where not all units are built. there is no way you're going to find every single unit being used, so don't try to make all units exactly equal. the whole point is that units are unequal, and require different situations to be used. sadist might not beat you using those units because they require a certain situation. however, if he somehow set up a situation where mass scouts would be useful, then you'd be fucked. for example, if he went 2 stargate scout rush against you pvt, and they did 12 damage, PLUS having speed upgrade, how the fuck would it be stopped unless terran completely invested in ebay earlier than normal?

On July 07 2004 18:43 RuGbUg wrote:
An idea of mine would be to make scourges have 20 hp, so goons could kill them in 2 hits, and cannons in 1, thus helping toss out with lurk contains/ridges when the zerg keeps killing all the toss' obs.

On July 07 2004 17:13 Slipknot wrote:
I agree.