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[Article] Fomos' Kang Young Hoon on Coach Cho

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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
August 04 2010 01:12 GMT
#1
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“I’ll be leaving after the post-season ends.”

“What?”

Those were the first words Coach Cho spoke to me after I went to the CJ house to receive some exclusive news. I couldn’t believe it at first. But Coach Cho is not the type of person who would joke about something like this, and I couldn’t help but be surprised and unsettled.

“Is it because of the results? Being unable to advance to KwangAnRi?”

“It’s not because of the results. I just feel like this season will be my last. I talked about this with the team before. So, how about it? Is this good exclusive news? Haha.”

Even though we don’t know the specific details, but what’s amazing is that when talking about his resignation, Coach Cho’s expression didn’t show too much sadness. A lot of people don’t understand just what a coach does exactly, why they get such a high salary. Even though the position of coach is known as an iron bowl position [T/N: Asian expression, meaning a secure, hard to lose job] in e-Sports, there are still many coaches who left because of poor results, and it let people know that it’s not a true iron bowl.

But out of these 12 teams, Coach Cho allowed us to see just exactly what a coach does. It makes us feel that for someone like Coach Cho, it’s not that he needs the position, but that the position needs him. Even stranger, Coach Cho’s desire to resign was known not only to just the team, but his long-time fans too. Thinking back, in the e-Sports coaches’ world, Coach Cho really is the best, and the only.

What kind of impression does Coach Cho leave on people? An unique personality? Cold to the point where if you stuck a needle in him you wouldn’t see a drop of blood, but extra warm and caring to his players? An“if you’re the best under me, you’ll be the best in the industry” philosophy that he uses to encourage and trust his players? All of the above, but more importantly, none of these points are what he brings up himself, but something that people slowly began to see with the passage with time. The impression that Coach Cho leaves on people.

I see a Coach Cho that is very calm and collected, very strict, both to himself and to his players. Coach Cho’s resignation is equivalent to throwing away his iron bowl. Why? After he announced it, I was lucky enough to have a chat with him, but of course, it’s not an interview.

Even though Coach Cho emphasized that the resignation had nothing to do with results, but I personally think that’s still the biggest factor. Coach Cho said “It is because of me that CJ became a strong team, but this is the extent of my abilities.” When the e-sports industry was still in its infancy, Coach Cho was known to us because of the care he exhibited for his players. And Coach Cho raised the biggest champions, including the newest OSL champion Effort and the 18 year old Best Newcomer Snow. [T/N: Savior T___T]

Even though it’s a stupid question, I still had to ask it, what’s harder: winning, or creating the foundation and ability to win? Even though it’s hard to answer, but what’s unchangeable is, Coach Cho perfected the latter, but failed to achieve the former. Coach Cho expressed, he gave 60% of himself to e-sports. From our perspective, it seems low, but we can also see how strictly Coach Cho regulates himself.

“If I gave 80% of myself to CJ, then CJ fully has the potential to win. But I couldn’t do it. Why can’t I start now? Thoughts like these have shown that it’s time for me to retire. As a coach, you need to know when you need to step back, and it’s important to set an example.”

Coach Cho said that he’s very sorry to CJ’s group director. Coach Cho also knows that even though he put in 60%, he achieved 80%’s worth of results, and has always done well in raising strong players. So from the team’s perspective, they really don’t have a reason to impede his resignation.

After the resignation, Coach Cho only has two concerns: because of him, there might be rumors and suspicions surrounding the team and the condition of the remaining players, especially Ma Jae Yoon. “If Ma Jae Yoon’s name gets brought up again because of this, it won’t be what I want. He already has enough to deal with him, I hope people don’t add any more pressure. Even more importantly, I told everyone on the team that they’re the best. Not winning is my fault, not theirs.”

Then, why was it that Coach Cho was unable to put in 100% of himself?

The usually troubled Coach Cho told me: “Thing are complicated now. Things need to be simplified. E-sports was in danger before. If you stop and think about what would happen if the industry collapsed, what would remain? You need to change your perspective, and think about it as a member of the e-sports industry and a businessman, for the answer.”

I’m very sad that someone like this will be leaving. But seeing Coach Cho’s smiling face, makes me think that there’s still something that we don’t know.

“What are you going to do now?”

“Rest for a while.”

“I meant, will you still be involved with e-sports?”

“There’s no definite answer. Right now I just want to rest. But it seems no one around me believes that. I want to rest, that’s why I’m resigning. I really just want to rest, and look over my kids at home, haha.”

“…”

“But even if I don’t say it, I think everyone knows, I’m not the kind of person who can do nothing for too long. The important thing is that there’s a big different between CJ’s Coach Cho Gyu Nam and Cho Gyu Nam.

Coach Cho isn’t a man of many words, which makes people think he’s unapproachable, but now, it seems like the cold Coach Cho is actually very warm and passionate.

“But your resignation will hurt and sadden many fans. After all, your popularity is not insignificant. Will you at least do a retirement interview or something like resigning players? Talk about stuff like memorable moments, players, etc…”

“I know what you mean, but I don’t really like it. If I only look back on past experiences, I wouldn’t be here today. And besides, if I spoke of the memorable moments and players, I wouldn’t resign. I guess this means it’s still hard for me to let go of the coach position.”

In the end, Coach Cho never did an interview, and I couldn’t remember everything we talked about, I just wrote down some of my thoughts.

I walked out of the dorms smiling, and then I collected my thoughts.

“Coach Cho is leaving e-sports by himself. It’s not something to laugh about. Even though we didn’t speak too much, from the few words we had, I can understand that Coach Cho has already seen through the e-sports industry, and he knows that he is one of the e-sports people that he talked about. But he still chose to leave with a smile, and all I can do is smile with him.”

http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=109478&db=issue

http://sc.plu.cn/note/2010-08-04/20502.html
TranslatorBaa!
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 04 2010 01:17 GMT
#2
Thanks for the translation yo. I really hope he comes back to esports .
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Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
August 04 2010 01:19 GMT
#3
ENTUSMEN. PRESENT, ARMS! (-_-)
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 04 2010 01:26 GMT
#4
ty for translating. doesn't answer many questions, but a good insight anyway.
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 01:31:12
August 04 2010 01:28 GMT
#5
Thank you for the translation.

I think the entire CJ team deserves a long and hard break...CJ players always mention the desire for a long rest, especially Savior.

On the top of my head, I remember the resignation (or firing) of the original SKT head coach due to poor result, and the firing of Hite's head coach due to the scandal. Wasn't Daniel Lee also a coach for Estro?

Wasn't it Cho who brought Idra from Estro to CJ?

Coach Cho has an eye for finding new talent. That's why CJ is historically a deep team and is the origin of many famous players. I can't really see how CJ can benefit from his resignation. Let's be honest, how many coaches out there can actually truly devote 80-100% of their life solely on their career?
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 04 2010 01:29 GMT
#6
He'll be back... For Starcraft 2! Hopefully...
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 01:50:26
August 04 2010 01:33 GMT
#7
Coach Cho gave up a lot for his team, but of everyone he says he only gave 60% of himself and feels not winning is his fault...

Coach Cho, thank you (-_-)
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
August 04 2010 01:33 GMT
#8
Thanks for the translation work. Such a shame to have an iconic figure resign and leaving the industry he helped create and nurture. I wish him the best in the future
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 04 2010 01:37 GMT
#9
Coach Cho is the greatest coach in the history of this game. The things he sacrificed to keep GO (which later became CJ) alive...

I don't think he does himself credit when he says he only gave 60%. He gave more than any person should be reasonably expected to give.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
August 04 2010 01:37 GMT
#10
Thanks Sheep, very nice non-interview to translate. I really enjoyed reading this and the added insight Cho gave about his life and CJ.
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GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
August 04 2010 01:41 GMT
#11
T_T so sad......
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
August 04 2010 01:42 GMT
#12
He seems very honest about the amount of effort he put in for his team.

He sacrificed time with his family for CJ Entus - it must have been difficult.
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
August 04 2010 01:46 GMT
#13
The whole conversation or transcript has this sense of "beating around the bush" and the Fomos guy doesn't wanna push it and step over the line. But seriously man I posted this on the other thread but I'ma post it again here just cuz I raged when I saw this.

It's people like Coach Cho that helped push boundaries for e-sports in Korea at least. Everybody should go take a look at that GO sponsorship thread it's fucking heartwarming. He's cutting ties with his children/crew and his passion for e-sports and he won't tell us why. I'm sure there is some truth in that he wants to take care of his kids more and spend more time with his family, but that is far from the truth I say.

I'm sure it kills him inside (but won't talk about it)

1. Thinking about the days where he raised Xellos and how they weren't financially stable until CJ stepped in and reminiscing about the past
2. Thinking about raising his best player Savior grow from nobody to bonjwa status under his tutelage
3. Thinking about how Savior went on his knees and straight up motherfucking lied to him "Coach it wasn't me"
4. Thinking about how foolish he was, being tricked by Savior and defending him from online attacks by netizens
5. Thinking about Effort's rise and remembering the past scars
6. Thinking about how corrupt e-sports has become and how different it is now

I don't blame him. If my best student straight up clowned me and seeing how different things are now I would be sick to my stomach. I feel him and best of luck to him in the future.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
August 04 2010 01:57 GMT
#14
On August 04 2010 10:46 ThePurist wrote:

3. Thinking about how Savior went on his knees and straight up motherfucking lied to him "Coach it wasn't me"
4. Thinking about how foolish he was, being tricked by Savior and defending him from online attacks by netizens


I thought someone said that didn't actually happen and it was just a fake netizen picture/comment.
TranslatorBaa!
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 04 2010 02:08 GMT
#15
On August 04 2010 10:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 10:46 ThePurist wrote:

3. Thinking about how Savior went on his knees and straight up motherfucking lied to him "Coach it wasn't me"
4. Thinking about how foolish he was, being tricked by Savior and defending him from online attacks by netizens


I thought someone said that didn't actually happen and it was just a fake netizen picture/comment.


The "on his knees" part may or may not have happened and is speculation. However, Savior straight up lied to him (See: After Talk with Sangho)
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 02:14:05
August 04 2010 02:11 GMT
#16
Most likely. I would expect scum like Savior would try to appeal to the Coach's warm side by drastic action.

EDIT: Even if it didn't happen, Coach Cho did defend Savior from netizens and speculating people. I saw the original text. It's fucking sad yo that a good man who cared so much has to walk away like this.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
August 04 2010 08:13 GMT
#17
Coach Cho put his faith in his players. Even with the mountain of accusations against Savior, he still defended him. He is truly one of the most honorable and noble people not just in e-sports, but in the world.

Thank you for all your hard work, Coach Cho (-_-)
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
August 04 2010 09:39 GMT
#18
locking this because waxangel's is better.
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