EPTSo all things considered, it might be another month or so before I switch back to BW. Life as a BW noob is much harder than as a SC2 noob but the game is so good it's worth it. Plus professional Korean BW is by far the most entertaining stuff to watch atm. SC2 is also nice because I think it actually helps you improve at BW, since the easier-to-work-with UI makes practicing certain fundamentals more accessible at lower levels.
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conTAgi0n
United States335 Posts
So all things considered, it might be another month or so before I switch back to BW. Life as a BW noob is much harder than as a SC2 noob but the game is so good it's worth it. Plus professional Korean BW is by far the most entertaining stuff to watch atm. SC2 is also nice because I think it actually helps you improve at BW, since the easier-to-work-with UI makes practicing certain fundamentals more accessible at lower levels. | ||
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seRapH
United States9808 Posts
i can't do that. if i beat up on a player who sucks (ie, the vast, vast majority of sc2), then i get zero satisfaction from the victory. its only casual and light-hearted because everyone sucks. getting out of the D rut on iccup is incomparable to getting promoted to diamond in sc2. even if its with a shitty 30% winrate. | ||
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conTAgi0n
United States335 Posts
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Sandrosuperstar
Sweden525 Posts
 Sadly im actually a bit bored with the proscene atm  But YES, until sc2 becomes truly fun to actually play im into brood war!!Also a thing i noticed when comparing the two is that in sc2 you get your first buildings up faster than in bw wich is nice. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4414 Posts
On August 12 2010 02:33 Biff The Understudy wrote: For me the main thing is that foreign community basically made the switch without even knowing if the game was any good. They just assumed, because of Blizzard marketing intense activity and the hype of the novelty that the smart thing to do was to stop playing bw and start as soon as possible mass gaming at SC2 in order to be the next world champion. That prove only one thing, which is that foreign community is immature. So foreign community is immature because they choose to play a new game and not a 12 year old game? Bizarre statement. Most people have played BW to death and are bored of it , personally i played for 12 years , i wanted something new and fresh. | ||
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
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lu_cid
United States428 Posts
Also after so many years of playing the game, it's just not as fun, maybe I'm just bored with it. | ||
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Thunderfist
Poland159 Posts
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Eggm
United States152 Posts
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dNo_O
United States233 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France8078 Posts
On August 12 2010 11:03 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: So foreign community is immature because they choose to play a new game and not a 12 year old game? Bizarre statement. Most people have played BW to death and are bored of it , personally i played for 12 years , i wanted something new and fresh. No, what I find immature is to decide to be a progamer on a game that is not even finished. And I find immature to get so entusiastic for something you don't know anything about, that you give up in one day what is supposed to have been a huge part of your life for the last years. The fact is that people would have reacted exactly the same way if the game had been a complete and utter failure or if the game had been even better than brood war. People didn't switched because SC2 is good or better than BW, and the proof is that they had virtually all switched on the first day of the beta. I can't imagine someone being 500% dedicated to a game (and that's what you need to be as good as the korean), and then leave it in one day, because blizzard marketing service have told you their next product is bigger and betterer. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
yet they are being raped left and right, up and down, NEW&S by koreans playing SC2 .. like the people who talked about these SC2 wannabe pros .. in a nut shell: "tough luck schmuks, koreans are Gosu in anything that has a phrase 'Star Craft labelled on it'" some of the arguments here are pretty light .. i blame blizzard for that creating a game with less content than its predecessor .. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
Brood War is the best game of all time. It is my favourite game of all time and the game I have spent the most time with. That said, I'm still playing the shit out of SC2. I'm not married to fucking BW. I don't owe it anything. At 26, games are about fun to me. SC2 has managed to capture a lot of the fun I had in the early days of BW. There's nothing immature about that. Get a grip. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
however i don't want to jump on the sc2 sucks bandwaggon. it took a long time for sc to develop into a great game, i'm sure many people didn't like it when zerg 4 pooled every game i agree with the guy almost completely and getting to diamond was okay, but nothing will ever EVER beat the feeling of getting D+ in iccup. i got d+ like 2 days before sc2 came out, best feeling ever. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8078 Posts
On August 12 2010 18:33 Brett wrote: Or maybe people haven't just 'given up in one day' on the game. Maybe they've slowly reduced the amount of time spent with that one game. Maybe they're genuinely interested in something new because that one game isnt what it used to be to them. Maybe the community isnt the same. Maybe they've seen the gameplay all before because they've played it millions of times. Maybe they're interested in finding out whether the new game is worth their attention, and arent going to condemn it without giving it a go themselves. Brood War is the best game of all time. It is my favourite game of all time and the game I have spent the most time with. That said, I'm still playing the shit out of SC2. I'm not married to fucking BW. I don't owe it anything. At 26, games are about fun to me. SC2 has managed to capture a lot of the fun I had in the early days of BW. There's nothing immature about that. Get a grip. :-) I'm not talking about the casual BW D+ player who just see an opportunity to play something new and fresh. That I understand perfectly. It was more a comment on the very top foreigner BW scene, which basically stopped to exist the day the beta was released. | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
I was playing SC2 in beta and even for some time now but when i tried BW it just feel right, u need be faster and think faster than in SC2 it is my opinion also I never played SC1 more than against computer when i was young : P | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
I still play BW, too. Maybe because SC2 wouldn't run on my old PC, because I still would like to play the campaign. But BW gives me everything I need for gaming. It is so challenging for me (I stuck at D+ and 100 APM) and it provides more fun with every game I play. And I am not even lonely at ICC, cause I was lucky to find a great clan of chobos like me in the German community. It's so great to rage about cheesy Korean Zerg with 250 APM with these guys. I started to play BW intensively last novembre and I think I will continue to play it till I won't find any opponent anywhere. btw: If you search opponents at D+/D/D- feel free to join op BaD] or add me: BaD]Don_Julio | ||
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dr.shrinker
Norway369 Posts
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attackfighter
Canada308 Posts
Also imo brood war is much more interesting to watch, as the battles take place over larger areas, are easier to discern, and require more skill. Korean matches are even better still, since the players actually are 'professionals' (ie they do it as a profession and it shows), foreign 'pros' to me are just good players, not anywhere near the level of Korean StarCraft. Another downside to SC2 is the UMS games. I know this is kind of a tangent in a thread about competitve games, but still it's a big reason I dislike SC2. In brood war it was fun to jump back and forth from iCCup to Helms Deep/CatnMouse/etc. on Bnet - it was a nice back and forth between ultra intense games to very casual layed back ones. SC2 doesn't really have any good UMS maps and the ladder matches aren't very competitive, so it's kind of just me playing somewhat casual games without anything to highten or lower the tension, which gets really boring after awhile. In all I don't see the improvement of SC2 over Brood War, and I share some of the other posters sentiments that everyone kinda jumped ship because of the hype. Still, it doesn't bother me since although the pool of players has gotten smaller, there will always be people on iCCup, old pro league matches to watch and people playing UMS on bnet | ||
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