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On May 18 2004 22:58 Madox-101 wrote:
OgOgO is not overrated coz no one rates him but u could say Blackman's overrated coz everybody rates him to be so good.
and OgOgO won wcg2003 while Blackman only achieve 3rd place in wcg2002 with yellow 2nd
i bet only half of us or less overrate blackman while the other half picks blackman as most favorite zerg.
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Canada5062 Posts
Suffeli,
The poll had some possibilities, but a poll based only on when the players started playing the game isn't really very interesting. Who cares if the player is "new" like ipx or an old school player like Niza who's found his game recently.
The question you really asked (it says so right in the title of your thread) is who will be the next Zerg King. And in properly answering this question, it's ridiculous to disqualify players like Niza or GoRush because they happen to be "old school." The fact is, what we're all interested in isn't to see "which of the REALLY NEW zerg players will become the next Zerg King." That may take YEARS to find out.
The better question is "who will be the next Zerg King AMONG ZERG PLAYERS NOT NAMED YELLOW OR CHOJJA." Or "who will be the next Zerg King among the new wave of Zerg users (not named Yellow or Chojja)." Or something like that.
We're seeing a mini changing of the Zerg user guard right now, partly due to the recent decline in the play of established Zerg users like Yellow and Chojja - and partly due to the maturing tournament skills of players like GoRush, JulyZerg and Jju. Then, there's Niza, who may turn out to be more hype than anything else, but who's still impressive enough to scare the heck out of tournament opponents in Korea - at least for now. Either way, these are exciting times if you're a Zerg fan.
Bottom line: no poll asking who might be the next dominant Zerg a la Yellow or Chojja should have players like Jju, GoRush, JulyZerg or even Niza off the list.
I like the poll. The idea's great. But your options leave a lot to be desired.
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Finland772 Posts
Mensrea,
The fact that I left alot of players out of the poll was due to the reason that polls hold only 7 options in them. A player rising from the pits of the "your average" mud is a rarity and I've not seen such a thing in this game... Yet...
Gundam after winning one major league(can't remember which) has gone into a such bad state that I think he is impossible to recover from. Gorush, Yellow, Jju and hell even Mymyung and the other oldschoolers have a steady win/lose rate but It has been awhile that they have been making heavy noise in the grand finals. Though I am not claiming that any of these players don't have the potential to get back to their prime, killer-superstar shape again but I personally believe that it takes a new fresh face that will burst into the first spot example like the instoppable force iloveovv did. Then again, one year in the pro-gaming scene is a long time and anything can happen. I'm really looking forward if Niza can prove he is worth the hype.
But... I must agree, when I think about it, the poll has some major flaws in it.
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Canada5062 Posts
My biggest gripe is that GoRush and Jju were left off the list. Both these guys have serious game (tho it remains to be seen if they can maintain their current level of play for an extended period of time).
Anyway, like I said, I think the poll idea itself is excellent! 
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Sweden1368 Posts
"Yellow, Chojja, Jju and Gyuntae have tried to challenge the omnipotent protoss and the allmighty terrans but time after time they have failed miserably and have left the blood splattered battlefield their heads hung up in shame."
Well, Yellow certainly did not fail time after time, Chojja has had his moments, JJu is looking quite hot lately and Gyuntae was never in the same league as those players. In fact i don't even think Gyuntae is good enough to be compared with many of the players in the poll =)
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At last someone admit blackman is really overrrated, he was crushed by boxer at wcg whereas Niza 2-0'd boxer. Tell me who is overrated... Still i don't say Niza will be the next Yellow but no one can deny his talent. I tend to think ogogo suxx but he recently beated the marine and yellow maybe he's getting better .. Wait and see...
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On May 19 2004 05:51 Kpone wrote:
At last someone admit blackman is really overrrated, he was crushed by boxer at wcg whereas Niza 2-0'd boxer. Tell me who is overrated... Still i don't say Niza will be the next Yellow but no one can deny his talent. I tend to think ogogo suxx but he recently beated the marine and yellow maybe he's getting better .. Wait and see...
Horrible comparison. Boxer is in a major slump right now, whereas in 2002 he was in his prime. Boxer raped the shit out of Yellow several times, did he not? Are we to say that because of this, Yellow is not as good as Niza? Sure, Yellow beat Boxer his fair share, too, but he still lost a lot to Boxer.
Terrible comparison, in my opinion.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 18 2004 12:16 Dealer wrote:
hmm, Gyuntae? =[
What did he ever do =]
He made a lot of sunkens :D
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 18 2004 14:56 suffeli wrote: I considered putting Jju, Gorush and Gyuntae put the point is that they have been around forever and have not been able to break thru to the finals and personally, I highly doubt they never will. And as I said earlier the poll is about "new wave" of zergs. My vote goes to Hyuk as he is sort of a crossbreed of Blackman and Chojja(as Muhweli put it), he has excellent micro/macro and stunning gameplay. Just wait and watch him do a clean sweep!
Gorush, best ZvZ on the planet. Qualified for OGN starleague for the second time in a row.
Only now starting to get his Offline play in order, may make a lot of noise
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hey guys, i like soul_ccoma playing style so much and i think he is the one of the best zergs around!
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
since when was gorush best zvz in the world? Until he dethrones Yellow in a best of 5 I am not convinced that he has the greatest ZvZ in the world. Winning Yellow one game doesnt mean jack.
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On May 19 2004 13:16 Tien wrote:
since when was gorush best zvz in the world? Until he dethrones Yellow in a best of 5 I am not convinced that he has the greatest ZvZ in the world. Winning Yellow one game doesnt mean jack.
Well he is something like 3-0 against Chojja and 7-1 against Jju. The only ZvZ game I remember him losing anytime recently was against Jju in the last OSL. It's true he hasn't gone toe-to-toe with Yellow in a series but his results in other ZvZ matches have been looking good for him.
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niza is more dominating than yellow. yellow is more trickwise guy, not as aggressive as niza. remember how niza raped boxer 2-0. he never backed out with his mutas. he just kept it going and going. on the other hand, if it was yellow, he would have backed out, and expand, and try some other shit
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On May 19 2004 18:21 Niza wrote:
niza is more dominating than yellow. yellow is more trickwise guy, not as aggressive as niza. remember how niza raped boxer 2-0. he never backed out with his mutas. he just kept it going and going. on the other hand, if it was yellow, he would have backed out, and expand, and try some other shit
wtf u talking about
yellow is renown for his aggressiveness
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Sweden1225 Posts
The next zergprogamer will be... *drumroll*
Roberto Baggio!
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people say that julyzerg is hope of zerg in korea
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