• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:29
CET 06:29
KST 14:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !8Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle screp: Command line app to parse SC rep files [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1766 users

What would a protoss favored map look like? - Page 6

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 All
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 09 2010 09:14 GMT
#101
On July 09 2010 18:10 Hautamaki wrote:
Thanks for the great reply. I remember theorycrafting lategame pvt all the time because it was so much fun. I imagined that recall was 2x better because of stasis; you could stasis vessels to prevent emp since stasis was instantaneous effect it was much easier to get off, and then recall with another arb. Plus I believe stasis cancels sv detection doesn't it? Anyways gotta go but thanks again =p
Yup, getting a stasis off on 4 vessels can be game breaking these days!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
July 09 2010 09:27 GMT
#102
Just have a bunch of neutral T and Z units scattered across the map for the P to MC.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 09 2010 10:32 GMT
#103
How about island maps? Weren't they stopped because protoss was OP on those?
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 09 2010 10:52 GMT
#104
A protoss favored map should have these imo:
-many mineral fields in the main and natural
-not that many, and not too defendable gas-expos
-choke which allows P to 10/15 vs T
-not too close main bases
-large main bases, so P can throw down his buildings np, and it makes it harder for T to cover his base against recalls
-not many highgrounds
-some cliffs, not close to main/natural but spread around the map in order that possible carriers/arbiters have an escape route
-single entrence natural base
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6182 Posts
July 09 2010 11:01 GMT
#105
Island ?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
n_n
Socke
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany451 Posts
July 09 2010 12:05 GMT
#106
that map wasnt easy pvt at all

there are way better island maps for p
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 11 2010 05:46 GMT
#107
On July 09 2010 07:25 Gositerran wrote:
Really no one mentioned Heart break ridge 4 pages and no one mentioned it

so good pvt and pvz


You serious? HBR was amazing for ZvP.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
July 11 2010 06:50 GMT
#108
Mineral heavy maps should favor terran really. Terran can go a vulture heavy style and own. Protoss is the one that needs a lot of gas later for arbiters.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 08:12:21
July 11 2010 08:12 GMT
#109
No wonder Protoss is always on the wrong side of the fork. We need to dedicate an entire thread and the brain power of countless to figure out how to make a single map that is imba toward Protoss!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 11:28:48
July 20 2010 11:26 GMT
#110
Polaris Rhapsody
narrow chokes helping for unflankable 3rd and 4th bases. a big ass map you can 12 nexus on. a 2 player map that makes it less costly to 8 scout with your probe. a map with a wide open middle, that is twilight, so it's easy on the eyes. if only it was islands, it would be perfect!
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 20 2010 11:32 GMT
#111
Baekmagoji.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 29 2011 15:37 GMT
#112
On July 05 2010 05:44 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 05:12 ccou wrote:
On July 04 2010 22:52 StarStruck wrote:
How can you not find it? Go to the TLPD and click maps. Click on a map and viola it's done. Either that or type in a name of the map and you can get to the directory from there. Something tells me you didn't try hard enough. Either way, here you go.


There was a nifty version where it showed all the maps together with colored bars showing imbalance. And you can sort them with the various imbalances.


Map Balance Table. Nifty, sure, but unfortunately still undocumented. Last I checked, it still had a few duplicate entries to watch out for, probably cross-pollination with the stats from the TSLD.


The URL doesn't exist anymore and I tried to find it using the Liquipedia. Anyone know if the Map Balance Table still exists somewhere? o_O
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
May 29 2011 16:29 GMT
#113
On May 30 2011 00:37 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 05:44 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
On July 05 2010 05:12 ccou wrote:
On July 04 2010 22:52 StarStruck wrote:
How can you not find it? Go to the TLPD and click maps. Click on a map and viola it's done. Either that or type in a name of the map and you can get to the directory from there. Something tells me you didn't try hard enough. Either way, here you go.


There was a nifty version where it showed all the maps together with colored bars showing imbalance. And you can sort them with the various imbalances.


Map Balance Table. Nifty, sure, but unfortunately still undocumented. Last I checked, it still had a few duplicate entries to watch out for, probably cross-pollination with the stats from the TSLD.


The URL doesn't exist anymore and I tried to find it using the Liquipedia. Anyone know if the Map Balance Table still exists somewhere? o_O

good bump, I'd like to know also.
k.taeyang
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Peru145 Posts
May 29 2011 17:09 GMT
#114
Central Plains?

They call it Protoss plains for a reason...
노력은 절대 배신 하지 않다 - 이제동 Hardwork never betrays - Lee Jae Dong
Prev 1 4 5 6 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 141
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 858
Leta 264
ZergMaN 72
Mong 24
Hm[arnc] 21
Dota 2
monkeys_forever370
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 634
C9.Mang0166
Counter-Strike
summit1g8903
Other Games
Coldzera 987
WinterStarcraft389
ViBE167
Trikslyr33
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1125
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 39
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki24
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22303
Other Games
• Scarra1823
• Shiphtur212
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
4h 31m
WardiTV 2025
5h 31m
Spirit vs Cure
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
7h 1m
Ladder Legends
13h 31m
BSL 21
14h 31m
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
Ladder Legends
1d 11h
BSL 21
1d 14h
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.