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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On July 03 2010 09:16 nbaker wrote: I don't like that the playoffs are best of 7. The entire proleague is best of 5, so it doesn't makes sense that they change that in the finals. It's like adding 20 yards to the field in the superbowl. I don't even like that they play bo3, but I mind it much less than the fact that each match is bo7 because it doesnt fundamentally change how the matches are played. Bo7 encourages the weaker players of each team to shine. I fail to see a problem with this. | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
On July 03 2010 09:37 Lightwip wrote: Bo7 encourages the weaker players of each team to shine. I fail to see a problem with this. Sucks for the audience though. Are all games played in the same broadcast? I love BW as everyone but to watch up to 21 matches in a row would make my eyes bleed. I think the ideal would be 2 Bo5 plus a Bo3 tiebraker. Bo7 feels bland as the first matches are more about gaining an advantage and less about facing imminent defeat. Superace is ridiculous indeed. | ||
LosingID8
CA10835 Posts
On July 03 2010 10:00 Fields wrote: Sucks for the audience though. Are all games played in the same broadcast? I love BW as everyone but to watch up to 21 matches in a row would make my eyes bleed. I think the ideal would be 2 Bo5 plus a Bo3 tiebraker. Bo7 feels bland as the first matches are more about gaining an advantage and less about facing imminent defeat. Superace is ridiculous indeed. no they're done on separate days, think of 1st and 2nd leg in football | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
On July 03 2010 10:01 LosingID8 wrote: no they're done on separate days, think of 1st and 2nd leg in football Thats nice, thanks. | ||
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textbook
Korea (North)129 Posts
On July 03 2010 10:01 LosingID8 wrote: no they're done on separate days, think of 1st and 2nd leg in football Off topic, but I thought football (soccer) is played in halves and the total score is used to determine the outcome. Enlighten this Canadian with no knowledge of football. | ||
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rainei
Canada1316 Posts
hehe jk, Yes, a single football game is divided into two halves, but in many competitions, each match takes place over 2 games, ie. a first and second leg. The total amount of goals determines the winner, and if it's tied, whoever has more away goals wins. | ||
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Basically you gotta win 11 games combined. | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
But, first to 4 and additional 2 point lead. It could go on forever, but fuck yea. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On July 03 2010 05:12 p4NDemik wrote: No, but a team could lose one match 0-4 and then come back and win the next match 4-3, and if they won the Super-Ace match then they would still move on despite being 5-7 aggregate. See: Samsung KHAN's bullshit >: ( | ||
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nextstep
Canada705 Posts
 Calm down  a win is a win. but i agree that a third best of 7 instead of a super ace is better. however, people will find ways to complain anyways: day 1 KHAN 4 - 3 STX day 2 KHAN 0 - 4 STX day 3 KHAN 4 - 3 STX total: KHAN 8, STX 10 new format, same result can occur (one game disparity less). | ||
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
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nbaker
United States1342 Posts
On July 03 2010 09:21 LosingID8 wrote: how about individual leagues that have bo3 in the ro8 but bo5 in the semis/finals? Maybe it's a double standard, but I feel there is a difference. Bo3 vs Bo5 in individual league has the same players playing more games so the stronger Bo3 player should be stronger in Bo5 (There are players who seem to do better in one format than the other, admittedly.) whereas a team that's strong in the regular season with the Bo5 system may be weak in the post season with the Bo7 format because they do not have a strong fifth player. I understand the Bo7 rewards depth more than Bo5, but then why not make regular season games Bo7 and keep it the same in the post season? Someone made the argument that it allows new players a chance to compete, but do we really want our playoffs filled with games from new players with next to no experience due to them not being viable in the regular season format? Overall, I think that they are trying to make the playoffs grander using the Bo7 format but it is a bad solution because: 1) It changes what it takes to win a match in the post season compared to the regular season 2) It leads to rookie players with no experience getting played at a time when only the best players on the team should be fielded | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
On July 04 2010 01:23 nbaker wrote: Maybe it's a double standard, but I feel there is a difference. Bo3 vs Bo5 in individual league has the same players playing more games so the stronger Bo3 player should be stronger in Bo5 (There are players who seem to do better in one format than the other, admittedly.) whereas a team that's strong in the regular season with the Bo5 system may be weak in the post season with the Bo7 format because they do not have a strong fifth player. I understand the Bo7 rewards depth more than Bo5, but then why not make regular season games Bo7 and keep it the same in the post season? Someone made the argument that it allows new players a chance to compete, but do we really want our playoffs filled with games from new players with next to no experience due to them not being viable in the regular season format? Overall, I think that they are trying to make the playoffs grander using the Bo7 format but it is a bad solution because: 1) It changes what it takes to win a match in the post season compared to the regular season 2) It leads to rookie players with no experience getting played at a time when only the best players on the team should be fielded I agree, and winners league complicates it too. Look at MBC vs Woongjin, I think most people would agree that Woongjin would probably win a bo7. And yet MBC advanced, thanks largely to winners league, and Woongjin didn't because they don't have a consistent ace. It's stupid to have playoffs reward a different thing than the regular season. At least the super ace system made it closer to the regular season format, but now that it's gone it's basically a different game. So now we're gonna have to see a bunch of crappy players because the teams which have a better chance of making the playoffs are the ones with 1-2 really good players, not the ones with depth. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On July 03 2010 14:47 nextstep wrote: Calm down a win is a win. but i agree that a third best of 7 instead of a super ace is better. however, people will find ways to complain anyways: day 1 KHAN 4 - 3 STX day 2 KHAN 0 - 4 STX day 3 KHAN 4 - 3 STX total: KHAN 8, STX 10 new format, same result can occur (one game disparity less). Seems more deserved than the super ace in my opinion. | ||
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Woyn
United Kingdom1628 Posts
On July 03 2010 10 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 03 2010 10 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:44 textbook wrote: Off topic, but I thought football (soccer) is played in halves and the total score is used to determine the outcome. Enlighten this Canadian with no knowledge of football. If 2 teams play a home and an away match to each and the aggregate score is say 4-4, the team that scored the most Away goals will win. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
That's gonna be brutal for the players, depending on just how spread out it is. Haha KT has to practice for one Bo7 and every other team has to practice for at least four... | ||
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TrainedDrumMunkey
United Kingdom4 Posts
I will be in Seoul from 25th to 30th of July on a conference (first Asia trip ever). Does anyone know the venue for the playoffs, 3rd/6th Winner vs 4th/5th Winner on the 25th (Day 2) and 27th (possible Day 3)? I gather from Elric's/NeverGG's [PIX-GUIDE] that this will not be held at the usual stadiums, so if anyone has details on where to go, I'd be very grateful. Is the venue even decided yet or will it depend on the teams that actually get to this round? Anyone in Seoul planning to go along and doesn't mind bringing another 'foreign' face for the cameras to focus on? Cheers, TDM | ||
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