EPT[Update] KeSPA Speaks Out On Intellectual Property Rights…
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On May 04 2010 07:43 Senx wrote: Summary: Blizzard wants to get payed for having their product being used by an external company which on its own makes me money from using Blizzards product. Kespa says "no, We do not want to pay you money or let you control the way we use your game." Blizzard says "yes you will, otherwise you can consider the negotiations over and you will not be allowed to use starcraft to make money or create a e-sport scene around it." I really don't see anything good coming out of this.. According to Kespa's statement It's more like Kespay says "no, we don't wanna hand you over the esports industry on a silver platter" Blizzard says "fine you bitches can walk home" | ||
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Ian Ian Ian
915 Posts
And from a legal standpoint, I don't see how kespa can really do anything. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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kmdarkmaster
France188 Posts
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rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On May 04 2010 07:46 redtooth wrote: i'm actually surprised at the number of people taking kespa's side. just try to remember a time you've heard kespa's name associated with a positive act? they are just a bunch of greedy bureaucratic idiots who are trying their best to stay alive with SC2 looming around the corner. They may be, but they have now come to represent the entire esports industry. Whether they were idiots in the past or not, there is no chance that the esports scene will amputate kespa and run on its own, so hate it or love it, esports and kespa go hand in hand. Now if what kespa's statement outlines is true, blizzard is asking kespa to hand over the esports industry, and if you ask me that is absurd On May 04 2010 07:48 kmdarkmaster wrote: It's very simple : Blizz was very greedy and Kes was very cocky. The solution for this problem is also very simple : Blizz gets a fair amount of money but no control at all and Kes gets total control of the proscene in Korea. After all Blizz is a company its job is to make money and Kes is a government-backed association so it is supposed to control and organize things. Kespa stated that they would pay royalties. The part that kespa refuted was handing over ownership rights of teams, players, broadcasting systems and everything involved in the esports scene | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On May 04 2010 07:47 Senx wrote: blizzard tried to get involved through gom tourney. kespa flexed its political muscles to shut it down. there really was no other reason to shut the tourney down. as a matter of fact, it was probably the best way for foreign awareness of ESPORTS. it was simply a terrible business move. after that, i'm sure blizzard doesn't want kespa to control anything.I agree, royalties is FINE, but let them create the surrounding scene on their own, don't control their every action like Blizzard seems to be wanting to do. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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yAak
United States10 Posts
On May 04 2010 07:30 Waxangel wrote: .... However, Blizzard would have limited the usage period of a game to only one year (note: I have no idea what the heck this means).... My wild guess is that this is maybe referring to limiting how long SC2: Wings of Liberty is played in E-Sports. Blizzard wants to release the Zerg expansion in 12-18 months after SC2:WoL... and maintaining an E-sports league still running WoL after that release definitely isn't in their interest. That's my guess anyway. The 12-18 month release window for Heart of the Swarm is the only "fact" in my post, taken from recent dev interviews. | ||
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DragonDefonce
United States790 Posts
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HaruHaru
United States988 Posts
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firalol
United States51 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On May 04 2010 07:38 Waxangel wrote: while there could be a long debate over how representative KeSPA is of everyone who makes e-sports in korea possible, yes, it's about Blizzard wanting ownership over secondary content created by other people using their products. KeSPA pretty much represents all the corporate interests that make ESPORTS in South Korea possible. They don't represent the players, though. | ||
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gbglass
Sweden29 Posts
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
In addition, Blizzard requests that all aspects of league management would have be authorized by them beforehand, including the acquiring of sponsorships, marketing planning and broadcast planning. For those who just skimmed the article, this is the problem. As others mentioned, Blizzard basically wants to take over kespa if this is right. Also leaves very little face for kespa afterward since they basically would be taking it in the rear from blizzard at will if they agree, hence why blizzard's demands will never be accepted. And yeah from the whole gom-debacle, we've seen that kespa can be pretty ruthless in getting their way so we'll see. | ||
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mOnion
United States5660 Posts
On May 04 2010 07:54 gbglass wrote: If this is true I'm disappointed in blizzard, it will hurt the development of e-sports. ? yeh so disappointing, a company wanting credit for someone else using their product. blizzard is fully within their rights to demand royalties, idunno bout the other things... | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On May 04 2010 07:46 redtooth wrote: Of course they have plenty of flaws, but the one thing they did right is actually keep E-sports running.i'm actually surprised at the number of people taking kespa's side. just try to remember a time you've heard kespa's name associated with a positive act? they are just a bunch of greedy bureaucratic idiots who are trying their best to stay alive with SC2 looming around the corner. | ||
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rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On May 04 2010 07:52 Zona wrote: KeSPA pretty much represents all the corporate interests that make ESPORTS in South Korea possible. They don't represent the players, though. they do, all eleven teams have representatives partaking in kespa, and if one team were to act out against kespa, they'd probably get all their players DQ'd or something. That is unless 4 or 5 teams or more decide to act out together, but don't see that happening now with kespa already so deeply involved in the inner workings of esports | ||
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Wargizmo
1237 Posts
On May 04 2010 07:51 haruharu wrote: I really don't think that blizzard controlling every single aspect of the way its game is used is fair... Royalties are fine, but even sponsorships, tournaments, and stuff? That might be going a little overboard. Why is it going overboard for Blizzard have to have a say in what brands, logos and slogans their product is associated with? Supposing hypothetically that Kespa announced their next sponsor was the KKK, and the next tournament was going to be the White Power Starcraft cup. I don't think it's unreasonable at all that sponsors and tournaments have to be approved by Blizzard first. | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
BTW, some people do not agree that Blizzard's request to KesPA is not fair, especially the part talking about financial audit authority. They believe it is beyond Blizzard's authority and see it as way to kill KesPA. (which many Korean is looking forward) | ||
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