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infecteddna
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Slovenia243 Posts
June 05 2010 12:08 GMT
#821
haha yes, now the analogy is perfect
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 12:33:47
June 05 2010 12:33 GMT
#822
On May 04 2010 07:46 redtooth wrote:
i'm actually surprised at the number of people taking kespa's side. just try to remember a time you've heard kespa's name associated with a positive act? they are just a bunch of greedy bureaucratic idiots who are trying their best to stay alive with SC2 looming around the corner.


hmm how about organizing BW proleague?? and making way for WCG??

there so many great games before SC:BW but there weren't any real leagues and big tournaments, no WCGs.

im not siding with kespa because i believe in them .. i just don't believe that Blizzard will take progaming seriously because, like what was raised earlier, why was it that Blizzard raised this Copyright issue now?? If they really cared for eSport, they should have supported or made their own proleagues in the US, seeing how LARGE WoW is. How come there aren't any WoW Leagues??
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
vl3tbol
Profile Joined November 2009
Australia37 Posts
June 05 2010 12:36 GMT
#823
On June 05 2010 21:33 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 07:46 redtooth wrote:
i'm actually surprised at the number of people taking kespa's side. just try to remember a time you've heard kespa's name associated with a positive act? they are just a bunch of greedy bureaucratic idiots who are trying their best to stay alive with SC2 looming around the corner.


hmm how about organizing BW proleague?? and making way for WCG??

there so many great games before SC:BW but there weren't any real leagues and big tournaments, no WCGs.

im not siding with kespa because i believe in them .. i just don't believe that Blizzard will take progaming seriously because, like what was raised earlier, why was it that Blizzard raised this Copyright issue now?? If they really cared for eSport, they should have supported or made their own proleagues in the US, seeing how LARGE WoW is. How come there aren't any WoW Leagues??

why baked your own cake while you can take someone else???
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
June 05 2010 14:41 GMT
#824
On June 05 2010 21:33 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 07:46 redtooth wrote:
i'm actually surprised at the number of people taking kespa's side. just try to remember a time you've heard kespa's name associated with a positive act? they are just a bunch of greedy bureaucratic idiots who are trying their best to stay alive with SC2 looming around the corner.


hmm how about organizing BW proleague?? and making way for WCG??

there so many great games before SC:BW but there weren't any real leagues and big tournaments, no WCGs.

im not siding with kespa because i believe in them .. i just don't believe that Blizzard will take progaming seriously because, like what was raised earlier, why was it that Blizzard raised this Copyright issue now?? If they really cared for eSport, they should have supported or made their own proleagues in the US, seeing how LARGE WoW is. How come there aren't any WoW Leagues??

I agree here, Blizzard is being incredibly short sighted here. I really thought that Blizzard were the good guys back when they were working together with gom. But it seems to me that they just want to control their games and don't care about the future of E Sports.

You can say a lot about kespa, but truth is that no one here knows what actually going on in kepsa HQ, so there is little point in labeling them as evil. This is actually the only case I know of where Kespa has been heard. Its always just, "Kespa did this. Therefore Kespa sucks!" We never know what Kespa's true intentions may have been in the prior cases. Kespa is the reason that E Sports exist, that should not be forgotten. The things that people criticise Kespa for are very minor compared to what Blizzard is doing.

What is in danger here is E Sports as we know it and Blizzard are the ones who are endangering it. Not Kespa. Dont just mindlessly jump on the bandwagon and say that Kespa sucks.
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