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kyophan
United States113 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
My reaction: This is sad and I hope it's not too spread, and I hope covering it up will be harder than they think and that we finally will get some names. Until then, I won't judge people and I'll still watch their games. I'm glad Flash doesn't seem to be involved in this. For those who said this wasted alot of their time; how can that be true. How did you waste time? If you found it real enough to get emotional and exited about the matches at the time then you've had that experience and they can't take it back. It can only ruin then remaining exitement for you for new matches imo. If we finally get the list and too many stars are involved and kicked from team, then I might stop watching proffessional starcraft but not before. And I certainly won't change it for SC2. From now on I think it will be less likely that alot of people do this again atleast:/ | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:21 StylishVODs wrote: If we finally get the list and too many stars are involved and kicked from team, then I might stop watching proffessional starcraft but not before. And I certainly won't change it for SC2. From now on I think it will be less likely that alot of people do this again atleast:/ That is the completely wrong approach. That behavior only makes hiding and coverup reasonable. People should stop watching if they DON'T investigate and DON'T fire their stars if they lost intentionally. If players with big names get fired that shoudl eb an extra reason to view SC and buy it if you can. | ||
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machinus
United States291 Posts
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psyote
Germany15 Posts
I mean cancelling CC c'mon?! | ||
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hubfub
Australia352 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:27 psyote wrote: Was IdrA involved, too? I mean cancelling CC c'mon?! well played :D :D hahaha | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 14 2010 18:36 Fenrax wrote: That is the completely wrong approach. That behavior only makes hiding and coverup reasonable. People should stop watching if they DON'T investigate and DON'T fire their stars if they lost intentionally. If players with big names get fired that shoudl eb an extra reason to view SC and buy it if you can. Yeah I get what you're saying. I'm not sure though that it really matters if I stop or not since I'm not even paying to watch, or even that it registrers their view ratings... koreans should boycott though until it's investigated. It's a hard call, I want the guilty to be punnished but I don't want the scene to go down because of this. And all those who played honestly shouldn't be punnished... | ||
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pheus
Australia161 Posts
Yeah, the level of games might be lower, but people were still watching sc back in 2002 or whatever when 150apm was pro | ||
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WarChimp
Australia943 Posts
User was warned for this post. | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1572 Posts
On April 14 2010 19:32 pheus wrote: People will continue to watch pro sc as long as the games are entertaining. Even if 10, 15 of the top progamers are kicked out there will be heaps of kids to take their place. Yeah, the level of games might be lower, but people were still watching sc back in 2002 or whatever when 150apm was pro lol TheMarine was 300 apm man back in 2001. But nice try. | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
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fearus
China2164 Posts
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son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
I'm glad Flash doesn't seem to be involved in this. How could he participate in this if he doesn't drop any matches?  | ||
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Spritescaper
United States63 Posts
Whether BW progaming survives is largely dependent on how the organizers choose to deal with the problem, but it's ALSO dependent on the viewers' (read: us) trust and faith in esports. Until proven otherwise, I'm not going to assume that every single notable progamer worth their salt is suddenly these greedy, game-throwing sons of bitches that people seem to be making them out to be. I'm ALSO not going to retroactively assume that every "suspicious" match that has been played thus far was influenced by shady under-dealings. I mean geez, sometimes a banana is just a banana. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On April 14 2010 21:26 Spritescaper wrote: You can't extrapolate a few confirmed (unconfirmed?) cases of scandal to the entire progaming population. ... which, I might add, is completely unsubstantiated at this point and based purely on speculation. . Until proven otherwise, I'm not going to assume that every single notable progamer worth their salt is suddenly these greedy, game-throwing sons of bitches that people seem to be making them out to be. I'm ALSO not going to retroactively assume that every "suspicious" match that has been played thus far was influenced by shady under-dealings. I mean geez, sometimes a banana is just a banana. That's because you don't know how much some parts of Korea are corrupted. | ||
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immacolate
Serbia199 Posts
all pro sports are sometimes fixed because all players, coaches and managers are human. | ||
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Spritescaper
United States63 Posts
On April 14 2010 21:34 Boonbag wrote: That's because you don't know how much some parts of Korea are corrupted. I'm well-aware, thank you. I've lived there for most of my life. I'm still not going to assume everyone involved in BW progaming is "corrupted" and "in on it" though. Wouldn't be fair to the honest folk, whether they're the minority or not. | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On April 14 2010 21:26 Spritescaper wrote: You can't extrapolate a few confirmed (unconfirmed?) cases of scandal to the entire progaming population. This is the kind of thing Sea was talking about; there ARE progamers who poured their heart and soul into the game and continue to do so on a daily basis. Yet these hardworking individuals are being hurt just as much as anyone else, simply because people lack the capacity to not lump everyone into the whole "ZOMG GREEDY GAME THROWERS" group... which, I might add, is completely unsubstantiated at this point and based purely on speculation. Whether BW progaming survives is largely dependent on how the organizers choose to deal with the problem, but it's ALSO dependent on the viewers' (read: us) trust and faith in esports. Until proven otherwise, I'm not going to assume that every single notable progamer worth their salt is suddenly these greedy, game-throwing sons of bitches that people seem to be making them out to be. I'm ALSO not going to retroactively assume that every "suspicious" match that has been played thus far was influenced by shady under-dealings. I mean geez, sometimes a banana is just a banana. thing is, if they cover it up, it wont be "proven otherwise". | ||
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On April 14 2010 15:18 _awake_ wrote: keep QQing whenever you don't get what you want i, on the other hand, am more interested in the BW scene than ever. drama isn't always a bad thing If it takes players throwing matches to get you more interested, why not just watch pro fucking wrestling? I mean, you just want fake drama, right? | ||
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On April 14 2010 17:24 IaniAniaN wrote: Seriously, this isn't the first time cheating has hit BW or pro gaming in general, they'll just be more careful and make the players more aware of the punishment they'll receive. There's cheating to win. And then there's cheating to lose because organized crime is paying you off. Thats far worse | ||
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