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PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 14 2010 05:58 GMT
#1041
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong

perhaps for the better of esports...

from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net

i've gone rogue

until next time

^^

dude, fuck Kespa, fuck the proleague teams, fuck everyone involved

i'm done with this shit
robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 06:01:26
April 14 2010 06:00 GMT
#1042
On April 14 2010 13:09 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong

perhaps for the better of esports...

from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net

i've gone rogue

until next time

^^


how much did he get bribed?! scandallllllll


I see a silver-lining in a cover-up (which probably makes me a disgusting human being), not because there aren't huge ethical issues with match rigging, but because more than anything I want the scene to survive. I'd rather weather the storm and see what comes of the efforts to clean it up and if Korea will keep the scene and, for my part, refrain from denouncing it before
a) anything official has been released as far as who was involved
b) the Korean fan-base pulls the plug

In reality, I'm just freaked out that brood war might come to a premature end. I really think this needs cleaning, but to the few I've heard threaten to renounce interest this early on, understand that if the scandals details become official and the scene dies, you'd be at the chopping block right behind the incriminated coaches and progamers. In any event, if we care about this game and the pro brood war scene, we should save the rash comments until after the facts are stated as such.
“This left me alone to solve the coffee problem - a sort of catch-22, as in order to think straight I need caffeine, and in order to make that happen I need to think straight.”
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 14 2010 06:02 GMT
#1043
On April 14 2010 12:42 eXNewB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 12:36 Gnabgib wrote:
On April 14 2010 12:33 gen.Sun wrote:
It would fix everything. Make betting legal, take a large cut of winnings, give that to the player for winning, all you have to do is ensure that the player's cut is larger than the amount he could likely make by losing.


What's to stop them from betting against themselves?


Making the prize money / fame for actually winning much more than what would be won off the betting on himself losing. Legal betting wouldn't work in starcraft just for that reason. Think about Boxing and why it's legal for betting in that sport

Its only legal in Vegas and other places with legal sports books, just like any other betting activity.
ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
April 14 2010 06:13 GMT
#1044
Sad day for ESPORTS...

Maybe a sad decade, who knows....

WAAAAAAAA T_______________T
Whenever I see a dropship, my asshole tingles, because it knows whats coming... - TheAntZ
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
April 14 2010 06:16 GMT
#1045
On April 14 2010 14:58 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong

perhaps for the better of esports...

from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net

i've gone rogue

until next time

^^

dude, fuck Kespa, fuck the proleague teams, fuck everyone involved

i'm done with this shit


Gah corporate cover-ups. The information is already out there though. Now rather than silencing the informants, they have to play damage control. At least that much, I would guess is good...or rather bad, depending on how one sees it.
_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
April 14 2010 06:18 GMT
#1046
On April 14 2010 08:56 bias- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong

perhaps for the better of esports...

from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net

i've gone rogue

until next time

^^


After this, I've stopped watching all professional BW in Korea. How much time have I wasted watching people lead me on, thinking I was watching SC at its best. So many people involved and nothing done until now.

And it's being covered up?

I want a full list of names and matches, or I'm done.


keep QQing whenever you don't get what you want

i, on the other hand, am more interested in the BW scene than ever. drama isn't always a bad thing
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
April 14 2010 07:03 GMT
#1047
On April 14 2010 14:58 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong

perhaps for the better of esports...

from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net

i've gone rogue

until next time

^^

dude, fuck Kespa, fuck the proleague teams, fuck everyone involved

i'm done with this shit


I know exactly how you feel.
quote? what quote?
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
April 14 2010 07:15 GMT
#1048
sometimes i envision this moment:

my father's glazed eyes fixed upon me, and i can tell he's searching for the words, somewhere, until his voices escapes,

"...I'm...I'm not angry. I'm just unbelievably disappointed. You don't know how much you've let me down."
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
April 14 2010 07:37 GMT
#1049
On April 14 2010 16:15 traced wrote:
sometimes i envision this moment:

my father's glazed eyes fixed upon me, and i can tell he's searching for the words, somewhere, until his voices escapes,

"...I'm...I'm not angry. I'm just unbelievably disappointed. You don't know how much you've let me down."


WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
April 14 2010 07:38 GMT
#1050
On April 14 2010 15:18 _awake_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 08:56 bias- wrote:
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong

perhaps for the better of esports...

from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net

i've gone rogue

until next time

^^


After this, I've stopped watching all professional BW in Korea. How much time have I wasted watching people lead me on, thinking I was watching SC at its best. So many people involved and nothing done until now.

And it's being covered up?

I want a full list of names and matches, or I'm done.


keep QQing whenever you don't get what you want

i, on the other hand, am more interested in the BW scene than ever. drama isn't always a bad thing


Send me $10 and I'll tell you tomorrow's winners
nimoraca
Profile Joined February 2007
Serbia84 Posts
April 14 2010 07:41 GMT
#1051
For all of you saying that this might be the end of BW, well I have bad news for all of you. This might be the end of progaming in Korea. Why would people just start watching SC2 progaming with potentially a lot of cheating players from BW playing it. What can possibly change by changing the game or changing the organizer of all this (from KeSPA to Blizzard). Like players would suddenly stop cheating. You also cannot solve the problem by giving players larger salaries (though you can improve the situation). For larger salaries you have to have larger audience, and with larger audience comes more betting, and larger bribes. The only thing you can really do is punish the involved players harshly so others would think twice before doing the same. I really believe that this is the only possible solution if you want to save the progaming scene in Korea, and I dont say BW scene, cause the game has nothing to do with cheating.
IaniAniaN
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada555 Posts
April 14 2010 08:24 GMT
#1052
Seriously, this isn't the first time cheating has hit BW or pro gaming in general, they'll just be more careful and make the players more aware of the punishment they'll receive.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 14 2010 08:24 GMT
#1053
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong

perhaps for the better of esports...

from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net

i've gone rogue

until next time

^^


Thanks a lot Rekrul, you rock. And no, if the conspirators win it would not be for the better of anything, but you probably know that. Screwing up partisanship and corruption is a good thing by default and if a tower falls it can always be rebuilt. So if you know anything more it would be appreciated if you tell us.
bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
April 14 2010 08:26 GMT
#1054
On April 14 2010 15:18 _awake_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 08:56 bias- wrote:
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong

perhaps for the better of esports...

from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net

i've gone rogue

until next time

^^


After this, I've stopped watching all professional BW in Korea. How much time have I wasted watching people lead me on, thinking I was watching SC at its best. So many people involved and nothing done until now.

And it's being covered up?

I want a full list of names and matches, or I'm done.


keep QQing whenever you don't get what you want

i, on the other hand, am more interested in the BW scene than ever. drama isn't always a bad thing


Yeah, so am I. Notice I said watching professional BW in Korea. VODs. Different from being on TL and keeping up with the news... I'll watch hyungjoon, nal_ra oldboy series, etc. Just not my favorite teams playing like I used to. Maybe Flash's games, that's it.
For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
April 14 2010 08:30 GMT
#1055
On April 14 2010 08:56 bias- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong

perhaps for the better of esports...

from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net

i've gone rogue

until next time

^^


After this, I've stopped watching all professional BW in Korea. How much time have I wasted watching people lead me on, thinking I was watching SC at its best. So many people involved and nothing done until now.

And it's being covered up?

I want a full list of names and matches, or I'm done.

i'm sure all those koreans will miss not knowing you and your non-contribution
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 08:56:34
April 14 2010 08:32 GMT
#1056
I
CANNOT
FUCKING
BELIEVE
THIS.

Savior? JD?? Fanta??? BISU???? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Who the hell cares about the end of the world? Bring it fuckin' on!
This is much, much worse than any fucking apocalypse...one brigh side of life now gone.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
April 14 2010 08:37 GMT
#1057
you're all acting as if 2012 is the end of the world... relax homies
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
April 14 2010 08:47 GMT
#1058
On April 14 2010 17:37 unionbank wrote:
you're all acting as if 2012 is the end of the world... relax homies
hahaha
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 08:58:16
April 14 2010 08:57 GMT
#1059
On April 14 2010 17:32 hitthat wrote:
I
CANNOT
FUCKING
BELIEVE
THIS.

Savior? JD?? Fanta??? BISU???? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Who the hell cares about the end of the world? Bring it fuckin' on!
This is much, much worse than any fucking apocalypse...one brigh side of life now gone.


why can't you believe this? they are all immature children who were offered lots and lots of money to do something easy. you think bisu cares about anyone but himself? have you seen him in an interview. he plays with his hair and giggles most of the time- this is not someone who anyone should look up to for anything other than a good pvz build.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 09:05:26
April 14 2010 09:05 GMT
#1060
True, but its hard to believe to so many bad, shocking news during one week. This is, actually, 4rd for me
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
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