EPT[Translation] 'Ear map' Complaint - Page 5
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JohnColtrane
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On March 17 2010 00:17 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Did you not read the OP? "Light also said that he had heard the audiences' roar. Proxy Barracks could have beaten Flash's tactics," manager Ha Tae Ki stressed, "today's game is not just simple 1 win." Though I do agree Flash probably heard the audience, your argument proves no point, as Light could very well have lied to try to get a regame or somehow enter semis. | ||
Kiante
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Mykill
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audiences should just shut the fuck up | ||
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moopie
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On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote: Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated". And if someone ask Flash about it he most likely deny it. Jumping to conclusions much? Flash had planned 14cc after scout, so he scouted for proxy. its likely that even if he hadnt seen anything there, he would have gone down into the 6 o'clock expo, and then checked behind the min-only above his nat as those are both places of common proxies (and you cant 14CC on that map without being 100% sure your opponent isn't proxying). Whether Light heard anything or not doesn't really matter, Flash was checking everywhere. | ||
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LucasWoJ
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moopie
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On March 17 2010 04:58 DreaM)XeRO wrote: honestly that proxy position was carefully selected by Light and his coaches to avoid a normal scout c'mon how many other proxies have been found by careful scouting?Flash's scv was trying to get to Light's main, he heard a giant roar as he passed a certain area, and he found out via giant roar that there was proxy A) a lot of proxies are found by scouting (if they weren't, 100% of games would be proxies). B) Flash wasn't heading to Light's main (not yet anyway), he was going 14CC on a 2 player map. You can't do that unless if you're absolutely sure there isn't a proxy, so he would have checked that area, inside the 6 o'clock bottom, and behind the min line at his 3rd (as well as on the high ground). It's pretty suspect that those booths (and headphones) have been used for so long now, with matches much louder than these (like flash/jd, and ACE fangirls) and no player has yet to complain about those booths and being able to hear it. I say, either way it doesn't matter for this situation, but OGN can insulate those booths further if Coach Ha demands it. Also, like someone else mentioned above, if indeed the right booth wasn't insulated properly, that would mean that all the MBC players were able to hear the crowd vs KT (giving them an advantage), why didn't they say something then? Edit: and rewatching the match now with the VOD just makes this accusation seem even less credible imo. | ||
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EtherealDeath
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11cc
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 Light still rocks though, but not as much as flash  | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
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Kyo Yuy
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The MBC Coach should have the replay, provided that Light would've saved it afterwards. Why doesn't the coach look at the replay and make a claim based on that? If Flash truly did react to the audience, there should be a VERY STRONG indication of such an action happening in the replay, which analyzes a player's every action. | ||
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hideo
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I don't mind the results of that match at all, but it would be nice to see some kind of improvements to the sound isolation of the venue. | ||
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LunarDestiny
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On March 17 2010 07:48 YoonHo wrote: I read that in one of the episodes in that HyungJun becomes a Progamer show, HyungJun explains that inside the booth, you can't hear the screams. However, you can DEFINITELY feel the vibration from the screams when you're inside the booth. It may not be the same as hearing the actual screams but, it's pretty significant. So that is what the ruler is use for: to feel the vibration. | ||
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n.DieJokes
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Edit- I couldn;t find anything when I searched but wasn't there some controversy when leta *I think* double proxy factories in a 5th set and the crowd when nuts and Flash walked right to it. I think it was FlaSh... damn memory. But anyway, I wouldn't be surprised; if you hear the crowd go nuts what are you gonna do, move in the opposite direction? | ||
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