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On March 19 2010 03:27 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I don't think there was anything condescending about AppleTart's tone at all... He was just trying to say that it seems ridiculous that Flash scouted the proxy because he heard something from the audience, especially given that Flash was already scouting in a direction for finding proxies. The audience made the scream AFTER Flash started scouting that area of the map, which implies that Flash planned to scout for proxies to begin with.
Hwaseung Oz pays Jaedong very little compared to other S-class progamers. The team knew that it would start drama and lead to a huge fight between Jaedong and his parents and the Oz coaches, yet the drama still happened.
E-Sports is serious business. People want to win, and sponsors want to make as much money as possible while giving as little as possible. It shouldn't come as any surprise that MBC was angry and wanted to win, especially given that THE SEEDING OF THE WINNER'S LEAGUE FINALS was on the line in that match.
The audience was screaming for many matches in the KT vs MBC set. If the sound was an issue, why is it only an issue for the ace match and none of the matches preceding it? And what does that mean about Sea's 3 wins over KT? If Light heard sound during HIS match, doesn't that mean Sea could have heard things too? Should both teams just replay the entire set?
I like Flash but I have nothing against Light. In my humble opinion, Light had a very good idea going into the game to proxy rax. Flash had prepared a 14cc build prior to the match and he knew that he would be extremely vulnerable to proxies. He scouted in a huge sweeping arc, before even going into the middle of the map, knowing that he would be vulnerable to a proxy rush. That's just the most likely scenario and I think people should just accept it.
I mean, most Flash fans have already accepted the power outage issues with the MSL finals and moved on. I don't think Flash anti fans need to drag this situation out and accuse Flash of cheating, when the scouting path BEFORE THE SCREAMING HAPPENED already indicated that Flash was looking for a proxy.
I don't think there was anything condescending about AppleTart's tone at all... He was just trying to say that it seems ridiculous that Flash scouted the proxy because he heard something from the audience, especially given that Flash was already scouting in a direction for finding proxies. The audience made the scream AFTER Flash started scouting that area of the map, which implies that Flash planned to scout for proxies to begin with.
Hwaseung Oz pays Jaedong very little compared to other S-class progamers. The team knew that it would start drama and lead to a huge fight between Jaedong and his parents and the Oz coaches, yet the drama still happened.
E-Sports is serious business. People want to win, and sponsors want to make as much money as possible while giving as little as possible. It shouldn't come as any surprise that MBC was angry and wanted to win, especially given that THE SEEDING OF THE WINNER'S LEAGUE FINALS was on the line in that match.
The audience was screaming for many matches in the KT vs MBC set. If the sound was an issue, why is it only an issue for the ace match and none of the matches preceding it? And what does that mean about Sea's 3 wins over KT? If Light heard sound during HIS match, doesn't that mean Sea could have heard things too? Should both teams just replay the entire set?
I like Flash but I have nothing against Light. In my humble opinion, Light had a very good idea going into the game to proxy rax. Flash had prepared a 14cc build prior to the match and he knew that he would be extremely vulnerable to proxies. He scouted in a huge sweeping arc, before even going into the middle of the map, knowing that he would be vulnerable to a proxy rush. That's just the most likely scenario and I think people should just accept it.
I mean, most Flash fans have already accepted the power outage issues with the MSL finals and moved on. I don't think Flash anti fans need to drag this situation out and accuse Flash of cheating, when the scouting path BEFORE THE SCREAMING HAPPENED already indicated that Flash was looking for a proxy.
hey there you go again. this is so frustrating argh did i ever mention anything about a replay? i am in no way suggesting a replay is the way to go. That would be quite ridiculous as the match is over already, at least I think so, and apparently so do Coach Ha and Light. Go back and read my posts before replying to me. If you're too lazy to do so, ill quote myself here:
On March 18 2010 22:58 rotinegg wrote:
why are you guys pushing towards a light vs flash argument? clearly mbc's coach said a re-game is out of question, he just wants this potential problem rectified so it won't happen in the future.
why are you guys pushing towards a light vs flash argument? clearly mbc's coach said a re-game is out of question, he just wants this potential problem rectified so it won't happen in the future.
And yes, I am very well suggesting that it is a possibility that sea could have heard things too during his matches, and many many other progamers in the entire e-sports history could have too. It is very much a possibility that players can hear things inside their booths, and smart players might decide to capitalize on that, nothing against that, it's their choice and money+reputation is at stake here, so can't blame them if they decide to react upon information that is given to them. Again, not saying that flash did that, so dont get your underwear in a bunch flash fanboys. Coach Ha decided to point out this possibility that the booth might not be completely sound-proof, so that the issue might be looked at by Kespa, and rectified if there is indeed a problem. Is it so hard to understand? why must you always polarize people's thoughts so every thread turns into a huge flamewar? I am not supporting flash fans nor light fans, in fact if anything I think that was a good win from flash, managing to scout the proxy rax fact and star, showing everyone why he is the boss. I am just in support of Coach Ha with his regards to his concerns about the sound-proof-ness of booths, that is all, so don't make me have to repeat myself.
