so…how many more controversies like this are we going to have before the cheapskates at ~~MBC~~ whoops, OGN decide to fork over for some playing booths that are indisputably soundproof?

snapcrackle

United States568 Posts

March 17 2010 05:02 GMT

#122

On March 17 2010 13:59 JWD wrote:
so…how many more controversies like this are we going to have before the cheapskates at MBC decide to fork over for some playing booths that are indisputably soundproof?

i think it was at ogn....

MrHoon

10183 Posts

March 17 2010 05:13 GMT

#123

I havent seen this much drama since the golden ages
Is this good or bad?

Scaramanga

Australia8093 Posts

March 17 2010 05:37 GMT

#124

Sounds like sore losers to me :D

arsonist

Canada80 Posts

March 17 2010 05:37 GMT

#125

personally, i feel that if this was such a significant problem, the coach(es) should have addressed it before it became an issue, not after. how many matches have been played in the booths? i'm sure there's frequently a lot of screaming... if it was heard, it should have been brought up earlier, not now that this supposed "ear hack" has happened.

i know there have been past instances of this happening, but i'm referring to these specific booths and whatever grievances they might have had with them. the fact that this is only brought up after such a significant match just seems questionable, to me.

moopie

12605 Posts

March 17 2010 05:38 GMT

#126

On March 17 2010 10:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
Didn't FlaSh do this against Leta as well?
Edit- I couldn;t find anything when I searched but wasn't there some controversy when leta *I think* double proxy factories in a 5th set and the crowd when nuts and Flash walked right to it. I think it was FlaSh... damn memory. But anyway, I wouldn't be surprised; if you hear the crowd go nuts what are you gonna do, move in the opposite direction?

That was Leta who was accused of looking at the crowd vs fOrGG. fOrGG went proxy 2fac which Leta scouted very shortly after and was accused of cheating by KT coaches (though there was not enough evidence and the match resumed). Leta was also suspected in looking at the audience for singals several other times (like against Movie). There was also a seperate incident with Light and Flash on MBC with Flash going 14CC and Light going 2 fac, where Flash saw someone waving their arms, though it was after he already scouted Light (and saw no expo, 2 marines w/ no vults on the ramp). He barely held it off with scv/vult micro.

Also, to my knowledge, there have not been accusations of being able to hear the crowd from these booths, even on much louder sets (ACE,Boxer, jd/flash, etc). And again, assuming the booth was defective somehow, how come the other MBC players didn't report that they were able to hear the crowd that night (even though if true this would have been an unfair advantage for all those sets). As far as I'm concerned, this claim by coach Ha is absurd.

On March 17 2010 14:02 snapcrackle wrote:

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i think it was at ogn....

It was indeed OGN.

SimonB

United States1088 Posts

March 17 2010 05:41 GMT

#127

I knew I didn't like that MBC coach. He's the only one who wears his team's uniform instead of a suit. Also, he's fat and ugly.

StripedBlueCrow

United States506 Posts

March 17 2010 05:57 GMT

#128

i looked at the vod again and when flash scouts down, the audience starts getting a little louder.. and then flash arcs up and discovers the barrack.

two things;
1. the audience wasn't that loud
2. haven't audience screamed for before when they pan it on certain players? so flash wouldn't have "known" that the audience noise was in direct regards to his scouting.. the camera man could have panned it on another player and the audience could have been going wild over him

LuDwig-

Italy1143 Posts

March 17 2010 06:08 GMT

#129

it has happened several times right?

meegrean

Thailand7699 Posts

March 17 2010 06:14 GMT

#130

knowing flash, i believe that he would have scouted the proxy either way.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

March 17 2010 06:28 GMT

#131

I rewatched the video many times and I can say that the first scv that Flash sent out is a scouting for proxy scv rather than going to your opponent's main scv.

Reason behind it is the path that the scv took.

But if Flash is just sending his scv to Light's main...(PS: I can spell PATH)

Therefore, I can conclude that scv is scouting for proxy.
And where are the good spots to proxy, I think Flash knows...

SturmAddict

Malaysia176 Posts

March 17 2010 06:50 GMT

#132

If you send an scv straight to the opponent base, it will go down the ramp to the BLACK area, and go back up on the large ramp to the middle =.=''

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

March 17 2010 07:00 GMT

#133

Oh, yeah...

Well, that still proves that the scv a scouting for proxy and Flash would sooner or later find that proxy rak.

LLXC

United States125 Posts

March 17 2010 07:17 GMT

#134

Those booths aren't super soundproof?

moopie

12605 Posts

March 17 2010 07:19 GMT

#135

On March 17 2010 16:17 LLXC wrote:
Those booths aren't super soundproof?

They are.

snapcrackle

United States568 Posts

March 17 2010 07:33 GMT

#136

On March 17 2010 16:19 moopie wrote:

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They are.

source

hacpee

United States752 Posts

March 17 2010 07:42 GMT

#137

Um there was an incident with Flash and someone else, I forgot who. Flash said he saw someone waving at him and he changed directions to scout or something. He freely admitted that he changed his shit after he won. I think this was the same thing, but this time, the stakes are bigger so flash didn't want to admit it. Btw,if flash DID watch the replay of light vs skyhigh, he would be scouting Light's sky-high proxy location first before going to the other location. Instead, flash made a straight run upwards.

saritenite

Singapore1680 Posts

March 17 2010 07:49 GMT

#138

OH NOW I KNOW WHY THIS CONTROVERSY HAPPENED

MBC getting karma for screwing over Flash during MSL. ITS FATE.

Scaramanga

Australia8093 Posts

March 17 2010 07:53 GMT

#139

On March 17 2010 16:42 hacpee wrote:
Um there was an incident with Flash and someone else, I forgot who. Flash said he saw someone waving at him and he changed directions to scout or something. He freely admitted that he changed his shit after he won. I think this was the same thing, but this time, the stakes are bigger so flash didn't want to admit it. Btw,if flash DID watch the replay of light vs skyhigh, he would be scouting Light's sky-high proxy location first before going to the other location. Instead, flash made a straight run upwards.

They fixed this problem to a point where the players almost cant see anything bar someone waving their arms like crazy, the booth has alot of light where outside has very little creating almost a one way mirror, also this is about hearing the audience not seeing them
2 things about this situation, rewatching the vod the commentators microphones are louder than the crowd and even if flash heard them its not his fault