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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
March 16 2010 16:13 GMT
#41
Now I cant think about the MBC coaches without laughing lol..
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 16:18:34
March 16 2010 16:17 GMT
#42
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

And if someone ask Flash about it he most likely deny it.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
March 16 2010 16:17 GMT
#43
On March 17 2010 01:03 Garnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 00:50 konadora wrote:
Only MBC HERO Center.

It was in OGN though.

Power Outage and now this, poor Flash. This probably won't affect him much though, or at least I hope so.

oh yeah lol

hmm

FLASH CURSE
POGGERS
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 16 2010 16:19 GMT
#44
On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

Whoa man, it's purely speculation as of now. Definitely too early to call Flash out at all. Things like these, how can you prove it happened?
God Bless
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
March 16 2010 16:22 GMT
#45
On March 17 2010 01:19 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

Whoa man, it's purely speculation as of now. Definitely too early to call Flash out at all. Things like these, how can you prove it happened?


I had "cheated" not cheated because reason you listed
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
March 16 2010 16:26 GMT
#46
On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

And if someone ask Flash about it he most likely deny it.

Yes!
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
NoobStyles
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Australia257 Posts
March 16 2010 16:33 GMT
#47
Wow i was expecting something much more obvious that this. I doubt flash head anything/needed to hear anything to scout the rax.

He was planing on 14CCing and his SCV was down there specifically looking for proxies. Also i think the loudest scream happened when flashed SCV was actually heading towards the rax
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
March 16 2010 16:52 GMT
#48
On March 17 2010 01:22 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 01:19 Roffles wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

Whoa man, it's purely speculation as of now. Definitely too early to call Flash out at all. Things like these, how can you prove it happened?


I had "cheated" not cheated because reason you listed


Maybe that's the reason he didn't ask for a regame, that he didn't cheat..?
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
March 16 2010 16:59 GMT
#49
On March 17 2010 01:52 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 01:22 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:19 Roffles wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

Whoa man, it's purely speculation as of now. Definitely too early to call Flash out at all. Things like these, how can you prove it happened?


I had "cheated" not cheated because reason you listed


Maybe that's the reason he didn't ask for a regame, that he didn't cheat..?


Well the situation is this

1. Light heard noise from audience
2. Flash didn't hear noise (if someone asks about it he will deny it)
3. One of them is lying

If Flash says that he did hear noise, then why not regame?
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
March 16 2010 16:59 GMT
#50
On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

And if someone ask Flash about it he most likely deny it.

It's really a shame that Light and his coach talked this over after losing and conspired to pretend that Light could hear the audience through his booth. And that therefore Flash heard it too and is a no good cheater.

And if someone asked Light or his manager about it, he would most likely deny it too. That's the really sad part.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 17:14:47
March 16 2010 17:13 GMT
#51
On March 17 2010 01:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 01:52 11cc wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:22 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:19 Roffles wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

Whoa man, it's purely speculation as of now. Definitely too early to call Flash out at all. Things like these, how can you prove it happened?


I had "cheated" not cheated because reason you listed


Maybe that's the reason he didn't ask for a regame, that he didn't cheat..?


Well the situation is this

1. Light heard noise from audience
2. Flash didn't hear noise (if someone asks about it he will deny it)
3. One of them is lying

If Flash says that he did hear noise, then why not regame?


Flash's music could have been turned up louder. Or Light's booth door could have been less tightly sealed. Or Light could have barely heard it, and Flash not at all.

Genius. ><

edit: Also read what IdrA said earlier in the thread, it's very important to this discussion.
May the BeSt man win.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
March 16 2010 17:14 GMT
#52
On March 17 2010 01:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 01:52 11cc wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:22 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:19 Roffles wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

Whoa man, it's purely speculation as of now. Definitely too early to call Flash out at all. Things like these, how can you prove it happened?


I had "cheated" not cheated because reason you listed


Maybe that's the reason he didn't ask for a regame, that he didn't cheat..?


Well the situation is this

1. Light heard noise from audience
2. Flash didn't hear noise (if someone asks about it he will deny it)
3. One of them is lying

If Flash says that he did hear noise, then why not regame?

It's possible Light heard the noise and Flash didn't? Sometimes some booths and headphones are faultier than others. It's possible Flash had his sound on a much louder setting and his headphones were better and his booth barely let any sound in.

Just because Light heard it doesn't necessarily mean Flash must have heard it. It's not like Flash was in Light's booth using the same headphones and sound settings.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 17:22:37
March 16 2010 17:21 GMT
#53
On March 17 2010 01:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 01:52 11cc wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:22 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:19 Roffles wrote:
On March 17 2010 01:17 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Shame that Flash didn't show true sportsmanship and asked for regame rather than silently accepting that he "cheated".

Whoa man, it's purely speculation as of now. Definitely too early to call Flash out at all. Things like these, how can you prove it happened?


I had "cheated" not cheated because reason you listed


Maybe that's the reason he didn't ask for a regame, that he didn't cheat..?


Well the situation is this

1. Light heard noise from audience
2. Flash didn't hear noise (if someone asks about it he will deny it)
3. One of them is lying

If Flash says that he did hear noise, then why not regame?


Flash WON the game and there is nothing that points to any kind of cheating. Why would there be a regame. Light hearing anything is not the issue here, and flash hearing the audience is just a theory the mbc coaches ripped out of their asses. If they feel the booths aren't sound proof enough, then it's okay to complain about that though. But as far as I know the booths have been the same for ages, and it seems weird that suddenly when flash scouts correctly, they become a problem.

If flash says he heard the audience and scouted the rax correctly because of that, things would be different, and I'd agree that regame would've been good.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 16 2010 17:21 GMT
#54
This is going to get interesting!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 16 2010 17:26 GMT
#55
Gosh people instantly make a drama outta it... SIgh...

Just read what Idra said, really.
In the woods, there lurks..
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
March 16 2010 17:40 GMT
#56
Flash was scouting for proxy rax, he would find that rax with or without audience help.

the question is: why someone doing incredibly great in the Winners League would decide to do an all-in when his opponent is in his 4 consecutive game. he should exploit Flash lack of stamina, but meh

stupid all-ins from Light and + Show Spoiler +
Leta

I was so pumped to watch those games...
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
March 16 2010 17:42 GMT
#57
On March 17 2010 02:26 Iplaythings wrote:
Gosh people instantly make a drama outta it... SIgh...

Just read what Idra said, really.


i LOVE drama!
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
March 16 2010 17:42 GMT
#58
It doesnt even matter much if Flash heard anything (well besides Lights dignity), if Light did. Since yes theres no guarantee he wouldnt have scouted there in any case, whether he heard crowd or not. As the coach says the matches result will not be changed in any case.

Its a serious problem if the players arent properly sound-proofed, obviously.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
March 16 2010 17:50 GMT
#59
i don't understand why people are accusing Flash of "cheating" and/or discussing a regame in this thread, it was made clear in the OP that the results are going to stand no matter what (and rightfully so).

we can only hope that Light's dignity isn't too badly wounded!
I drop suckas like Plinko
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
March 16 2010 17:55 GMT
#60
after years of starcraft progaming... how is this issue still not solved?

i think flash would have scouted the proxy anyway. he's very aware of the risk of his cc build so of course he would scout thoroughly.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
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