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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 16 2010 14:56 GMT
#21
On March 16 2010 23:48 wo0py wrote:
So which game was this? I want to watch it!


SWL KT Rolster vs MBCGame HERO Ace match that aired today.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
March 16 2010 15:03 GMT
#22
hmm not the first time somethnig like this happenedl ol, iirc was it anytime vs boxer So1 OSL where the crowd screamed and anytime foudn the proxy fact on neo forte? haha dont remember clearly.

and i can't believe this STILL happens...even with the super tight door booths and noise reducin seinheisser headphones ... o_o
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lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 15:05:26
March 16 2010 15:03 GMT
#23
That would really suck for Light if this was true, which I'm pretty sure it kinda was. But you can't blame Flash. It's not his fault for hearing it.

On March 17 2010 00:03 alffla wrote:
hmm not the first time somethnig like this happenedl ol, iirc was it anytime vs boxer So1 OSL where the crowd screamed and anytime foudn the proxy fact on neo forte? haha dont remember clearly.

and i can't believe this STILL happens...even with the super tight door booths and noise reducin seinheisser headphones ... o_o


Damn, never underestimate the sound power of a room full of fangirls. They could power Korea off that shit.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 15:09:36
March 16 2010 15:04 GMT
#24
On March 16 2010 23:50 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 23:46 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On March 16 2010 23:43 cabarkapa wrote:
On March 16 2010 23:39 Black Gun wrote:
well, even if their complaint in itself is valid, its not kt´s fault for the studio having bad sound suppressing...

Who is blaming KT?

On March 16 2010 23:41 Scorch wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
There was a huge roar in the audience as Flash's scout went past the proxy rax, and he turned around that same moment. I wouldn't be surprised if Flash heard it. That said, Light also proxied a factory and a starport, and Flash found them too without the audience's help.

+ Show Spoiler +
Flash looked for the factory when he scouted Light's main base and didn't see one there


yeah flash scouting the factory was because flash saw no factory at light's main. In the game after he scouted light's empty main you see him scouting his min only first then goes down where light's fact was and since he saw only 1 fact he could have suspected a starport follow up and scouted the next logical area which was 6.

The whole issue was with him missing the rax. Normally flash would usually go back to main after seeing nothing but he goes back up after. Why this is an issue is because if flash missed it and went 14 cc he probably would have been crippled by the proxy rax and the proxy fact, port follow up after would have probably killed him.

its not at all fair to assume that flash wouldntve scouted it anyway, that entire area of the map is buildable and double cc is freeloss vs a rax built anywhere down there, not just the one convenient path. obviously flash was gonna scout all over. maybe he heard the audience and so turned around immediately, but he was gonna see it a few seconds later anyway.

I dont remember how much light's rax was completed when flash saw it i think around half but is there a chance that if flash saw it a few seconds later could the rax have been finished or near finished before flash's scv could kill it? I remember flash didnt even start his rax yet when he saw light's rax.
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dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
March 16 2010 15:06 GMT
#25
Thanks for the translation! It's funny that this problem keeps popping up (brings to mind the Boxer hold position lurkers controversy), even after gaming booths are used.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 15:10:00
March 16 2010 15:09 GMT
#26
On March 17 2010 00:03 alffla wrote:
hmm not the first time somethnig like this happenedl ol, iirc was it anytime vs boxer So1 OSL where the crowd screamed and anytime foudn the proxy fact on neo forte? haha dont remember clearly.

and i can't believe this STILL happens...even with the super tight door booths and noise reducin seinheisser headphones ... o_o

Anytime did not find the hidden factories and got rolled
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Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
March 16 2010 15:13 GMT
#27
I highly, highly doubt that flash heard anything, given the headphones + soundproof booths.
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
March 16 2010 15:17 GMT
#28
On March 17 2010 00:13 Wangsta wrote:
I highly, highly doubt that flash heard anything, given the headphones + soundproof booths.


Did you not read the OP?

"Light also said that he had heard the audiences' roar. Proxy Barracks could have beaten Flash's tactics," manager Ha Tae Ki stressed, "today's game is not just simple 1 win."
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
March 16 2010 15:27 GMT
#29
Maybe the coach was just too excited about his theory

Coach: damn audience told flash the rax was there. u herd dem too right?
Light: wellll....
Coach: I fucking knew it!
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
March 16 2010 15:33 GMT
#30
Seriously though it sounds like they are trying to straight up discredit the win. Couldn't say that they just want to investigate the possibility but saying they must REVEAL this undisputed truth and that light really deserved to win.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
March 16 2010 15:40 GMT
#31
Wow, thats insane, I always thought the booths were called Sound-Proof Booths? No? I guess its just glass and wood mixed with a little steel. No sound proof at all there. Thats what the ear muffs are for I guess. But what good are those... They should really create new booths, I mean the games are all played in the same places. So its not like it would be troublesome to do this.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
March 16 2010 15:40 GMT
#32
We must recover Light's dignity!
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C[SCL]
Profile Joined April 2009
Philippines576 Posts
March 16 2010 15:45 GMT
#33
I'm not really sure if flash heard things, but isn't it normal to continue scouting an area when there is clearly an unexplored part of that particular area? I hope people get what i mean.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
March 16 2010 15:50 GMT
#34
Only MBC HERO Center.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 16 2010 15:52 GMT
#35
On March 17 2010 00:45 C[SCL] wrote:
I'm not really sure if flash heard things, but isn't it normal to continue scouting an area when there is clearly an unexplored part of that particular area? I hope people get what i mean.

Well, if Light heard things, then I'm gonna assume that unless his equipment was faulty that Flash heard the same things as well. And I'm pretty sure that after he plopped down that rax Flash went down to scout 6 oclock or so but missed the proxy. Fanscreams might have tipped him off that he missed something as I recall him going back and checking further.

It's possible, but what can you do in this situation?
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 16:03:36
March 16 2010 16:01 GMT
#36
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
March 16 2010 16:03 GMT
#37
On March 17 2010 00:50 konadora wrote:
Only MBC HERO Center.

It was in OGN though.

Power Outage and now this, poor Flash. This probably won't affect him much though, or at least I hope so.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 16:05:08
March 16 2010 16:04 GMT
#38
On March 17 2010 00:50 konadora wrote:
Only MBC HERO Center.

Not exactly the first time MBC has screwed over Light. Anyone else remember that they gave him the wrong version of Desperado to practice on in the GOM MSL2?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=54223&currentpage=12

EDIT: Apparently it was the OGN studio. I guess this doesn't work any more.
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C[SCL]
Profile Joined April 2009
Philippines576 Posts
March 16 2010 16:05 GMT
#39
On March 17 2010 00:52 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 00:45 C[SCL] wrote:
I'm not really sure if flash heard things, but isn't it normal to continue scouting an area when there is clearly an unexplored part of that particular area? I hope people get what i mean.

Well, if Light heard things, then I'm gonna assume that unless his equipment was faulty that Flash heard the same things as well. And I'm pretty sure that after he plopped down that rax Flash went down to scout 6 oclock or so but missed the proxy. Fanscreams might have tipped him off that he missed something as I recall him going back and checking further.

It's possible, but what can you do in this situation?


Nothing I guess. Let's just hope Light's dignity isn't damaged THAT much.lol
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 16 2010 16:11 GMT
#40
Light's diginity?! lol

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