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SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
January 05 2010 05:34 GMT
#21
On January 05 2010 14:31 Disregard wrote:
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On January 05 2010 14:28 mog87 wrote:
On January 05 2010 14:07 Disregard wrote:
On January 05 2010 14:06 alffla wrote:
aren't piano and mvp and ganzi better than him lol :\ gl to him anyway.


Initially Piano was only good at TvT, but well he failed at that too.


Every woonjin terran can tvt(or rather it seemed that they were so bad at every matchup that their tvt looked noticeably better?), but pianos specialty was TvZ, MVP is more of a TvT/TvP kinda guy and Ganzi does whatever he wants. That being said theyve been pretty bad this season, where as last season it looked like they were improving. Sadly they are still probably more reliable than skt zergs and oz toss.


Yea, everyone raved about how good Piano's TvZ, especially with bionic in practice but, well only live games count.

Last season we was actually able to string together like 3-4 wins in a row tvz vs notable players... but that was last season lol, this season woongjin terrans are like 30% win rate lol, probly less.
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
January 05 2010 05:36 GMT
#22
RIP MVPs Career
2009 - 2010
Kal Fighting!
sleeepy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada777 Posts
January 05 2010 05:46 GMT
#23
On January 05 2010 14:36 ItsBigfoot wrote:
RIP MVPs Career
2009 - 2010


lol

MVP >>> Sair. If anything it will make MVP look better by comparison.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
January 05 2010 05:49 GMT
#24
On January 05 2010 14:06 alffla wrote:
aren't piano and mvp and ganzi better than him lol :\ gl to him anyway.


You have to be kidding MVP is just ROFL.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 05 2010 05:52 GMT
#25
He had that one game vs hogil?? on medusa/neo medusa!! And ended it with a cool dropship ceremony, I thought he was heading upward after that...
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 05 2010 05:52 GMT
#26
Imo sair could be better than mvp, and he wasn't going to get on the KT lineup anytime soon, good luck to him
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saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
January 05 2010 05:54 GMT
#27
Hope SaiR will do well with Stars. GL!
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 05 2010 05:55 GMT
#28
On January 05 2010 14:49 Tekin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2010 14:06 alffla wrote:
aren't piano and mvp and ganzi better than him lol :\ gl to him anyway.


You have to be kidding MVP is just ROFL.


MVP owned stork in GOM
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 05 2010 06:00 GMT
#29
lol, i think he'll fit right in with the rest of the woongjin terrans :D
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
January 05 2010 06:00 GMT
#30
On January 05 2010 14:06 alffla wrote:
aren't piano and mvp and ganzi better than him lol :\ gl to him anyway.


Hard to say, if any of those players were on KT I doubt they'd be seeing any playing time either. At least on Woongjin he's pretty much guaranteed to be playing some games which should let us see if he's actually better.
BW forever || Thall
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 05 2010 06:08 GMT
#31
makes sense, flash is younger than his backups so there's no real point in having too many backup terrans for kt for the next few years
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 05 2010 06:28 GMT
#32
This is just like when the Red Sox got Daisuke Matsuzaka and the Yankees were so angry that they grabbed some random guy off the street named Kei Igawa and gave him a ton of money.

Woongjin couldn't get (T)PuMa, and so they settled for (T)SaiR.

+ Show Spoiler +
Kei Igawa was terrible.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
January 05 2010 06:41 GMT
#33
bye MVP/Piano

Won't be seeing you guys soon
POGGERS
Ruff
Profile Joined August 2006
Kazakhstan179 Posts
January 05 2010 06:50 GMT
#34
Why don't they use GanZi?
"Keep on dreaming, boy, cause someday you will shine" (Ogogo).
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 05 2010 06:59 GMT
#35
Youd think theyd have bought Midas, but maybe the cash wasnt available at the time.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
January 05 2010 07:02 GMT
#36
Glgl Sair . Make Stars proud :D
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
January 05 2010 07:08 GMT
#37
On January 05 2010 15:59 mog87 wrote:
Youd think theyd have bought Midas, but maybe the cash wasnt available at the time.


Cuz all their cash went to their housing facility haha
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
January 05 2010 09:06 GMT
#38
On January 05 2010 16:08 MorningMusume11 wrote:
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On January 05 2010 15:59 mog87 wrote:
Youd think theyd have bought Midas, but maybe the cash wasnt available at the time.


Cuz all their cash went to their housing facility haha

They also bought Kwanro, which I guess wasn't that cheap because of his MSL run.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
January 05 2010 09:21 GMT
#39
so woongjin is the next KT (buying people left and right)?
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 05 2010 09:23 GMT
#40
A player has a certain degree of inherent talent. Their skill also depends an immense deal on the practicing they do and the environment in which they do it. It is very difficult to estimate how well a player will do when switching teams in my (extremely limited) experience. Sure, the level they play at prior to the switch will give a good indicator of their style and general ability, but players often exhibit big shifts after the team switch. SaiR could find his place on the Stars and really improve. He could benefit from different practice partners and coaches. He could benefit from different physical circumstances and a different environment. Then again, he might not.

Another thing to consider is that he will bring with him his own style, knowledge of his previous teammates, and expertise on the game. These factors will always be beneficial to a team. If nothing else, he will be an extremely valued practice partner and a helpful voice.

Also, as an aside, while reading about Woongjin Terrans I was reminded of the wonderful series between Piano (Organ at the time?) and BackHo in GOM season 3. Those games were really kickass.
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